Does someone need a hug? (Little Upsilon)

And you? Can't you decide on your own?

Abstract for a second. Know what you feel. Now think what Chuck must have felt.

I know I'm one of the few selfless persons here and that my years and studies have allowed me to see through this community without much trouble, but you should all do a much greater effort.

What is worse? The game or the community? Whatever you may deem the answer, fact is you people aren't helping.

I have already done my share. In fact, if I hadn't done my share and helped W3C, I would now use my knowledge to hack some players' accounts and really show them in first hand what they are doing. You can thank W3C's speedy action and my... indiscriminate concern for all of you.

"Do I have to bait him on the forum..."

This is, in fact, a fun thing to do. One must find new and interesting ways to enjoy this game.

I'm glad you are online, Barney.

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I wonder who thought up of the whole FTZ thing... I can't remember much, but I'm sure I opposed, but I can't remember why. I'm sure I can find some arguments from the posts just here tho.


Oh, really? Fun at the involuntarily expense of others? Really? You call that fun?

I have fun in real life by killing others and grinding their meat and bones into hamburgers. Keeps me healthy too.

Nah. That's actually a lie. I have fun by clicking on a house for two hours. NOW THAT'S REALLY FUNNY.

None of you can honestly believe what you even say.

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Name calling is generally not a good way to avoid a war in Simcountry.<!-/Quote-!>

But its a damm fine way to start one....

"None of you can honestly believe what you even say."

Well, I'm of the opinion that what I believe I have to say is more relevant to me than what you would have me believe for myself.

You're no better than anybody else here. You're acting as if you would like to dictate how others should enjoy this game. Well, not everybody shares your opinion.

I certainly wouldn't attack any active player just for the hell of it. But, if I have absolutely no sympathy for people who forgo defense expenses so that they can save money and hide behind excuses like, "this isn't the war world."


Any way, have to cut it short.... gotta go practice for the wedding dance.... bleh...


BC

I must say a "bait" would have, in my eyes, been more respectable. That is what I am pissed off about and I defend my prior statements as they are considered a retort as I am not the primary aggressor!

And regarding not being active in a month, it was a merely 3 days. Not nearly long enough for my long standing "active in the past week" title to change. On a side note, I am sure that Ares can note that my master country next door is ranked #2 in LU (as I am sure he did his fair share of scoping out "worthy" rivals). As well as on a world view, I appear as an experienced and not aggressive empire.

Also, to tell me that I will learn my lesson and to advise me to buy my own country back after he will dismantle it is insulting to me! That is the same as telling someone who is robbed at gunpoint..."you learned your lesson, didn't you!?!"

And back to you, Ares, remember that I did not call you a "pussy" or a "prick" prior to you waging a war against me...am I correct? That is a very illogical way to justify your own terribly misjudged war.

I believe, if you would like a true battle and really would enjoy "earning" your GC rather than stealing them. Allow me to familiarize myself with the military aspects and you may wage war at a later time and really earn your stripes, and maybe some respect from other well distinguished Presidents on SC.

BorderC,

On a side note...my finance rating was once over 285 when I did not purchase weaponry. As I am still learning new things in the game everyday, I have not personally covered the military aspect of the game. While I may have quite a defense, I am still not yet proficient or even familiar with war and I prefer not to stay up all night learning it to fight Ares. And truthfully, from my understanding, this wasn't the war world (call them excuses or not). As unlike a lot of other players, I do not have several empires on several planets and I don't appreciate the possibility of having half of what I own "robbed" and being to told to just..."buy it back and learn your lesson." I'll refrain from using any more namecalling...

I'm of the opinion that what you people think is irrelevant to human nature.

I wonder which opinion weights the must on how things turn... What people think or what people do?

Lets all say our thanks to the Muhammad's cartoons controversy - came from Holland, btw. Kicked what was left of "political correctness" in most circles and restored idealistic elitism and egalitarianism.

To say I or anyone else can't dictate how people play is to ignore this thread and the game news and my previous post. As I said, this community is within Dunbar's number. Follow the rest.

I would like to announce that Chuck Steak's country "AwesomeRuins" is now an official VS member.

Although, he still has to undergo the ritual booing of all teams Philadelphia, we do consider him a full member since he has successfully completed his Laguna hazing period.

So I take it then that Valde is declaring war on me by taking in Chuck Steak?

Any way, have to cut it short.... gotta go practice for the wedding dance.... bleh... - BorderC

lulz? :P

BC is getting married.

Thanx for the definition Samicus.

Laguna,
Dunbar's number does not apply. It may have applied in October 2008, now it does not. When I started playing the game (August 2008, WG) I could attack computer controlled countries and collect weapons, population, and cash. The loot was left over from deregistered countries. There was absolutely no reason to turn the war engine on an active player unless very provoked by that player. Attacking an inactive player risks the possibility that he/she returns and/or has friends. White Giant was saturated with CCCs carrying over 5T cash and I had little difficulty finding CCCs with more than 10T cash.
The game engine changed in November. CCCs no longer have much of anything. At first this was not a problem for the war gamers. There was still an abundance of inactive countries. On the off chance he/she came back just blame the game master and offer to sell the country back. The quality of inactive countries has been declining steadily. By February players who were only active in the last month and not in federations were getting attacked. Now it is April and the logical evolution is to attack the easy targets before someone else gets there first.

Assuming W3C does not radically change the mechanics again, by May or June the social norms on LU will have adjusted. New players reading the forum or going to chat will quickly find out that slave states have to be in debt of heavily defended. Long term LU players will know that you try for score in your secure country not in your slaves. How much is "enough defense" will still be up for debate and will evolve. At that point Dunbar's number will be relevant again. People on LU will know if they are heavily defended relative to their neighbors. A player who pushes the limits of weak defense will know he/she was pushing it or will know he/she is new to LU.

Cohesive stable groups in the real world cease to be cohesive and stable when starvation or epidemic disease kicks in. Groups of cannibals will quickly establish norms, know who is who and know how everyone relates. I would guess that Dunbar's number would apply to the sum of cannibals and the crop. Quarantined cities suffering from plagues quickly establish who is responsible for medical triage, fueling the incinerator, and digging the mass graves.

When a groups circumstance changes it can take awhile to establish the new set of norms.

@ Kevin Henry, and who may these other players be, and why are you singling out Ares and not the other "mislead players"?

I know of a few others who are wreaking havoc on active inactive players. Why are you not threatening them?

Misled player here.

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Care to expound Kevin?

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Wrong. LDI controls nothing.

LDI is a group of players who are each a sovereign nation.

As such each member plays the game as they see fit.

We have no training academy or forums. We don't have inactive branches of 21 day n00bs. We don't have a command structure. We are not interested in politics. We have no desire to control anyone. We are however poor diplomats and sensitive. If you are an obnoxious rude asshat, hostile bidder or neighbor you will find we are somewhat capable warriors.

We don't want or try to control LU...But on Lacerta if you are looking for trouble....You will surely find it..



In short we just don't give a damm because all of this is ones and zeros on a Dutch server.

Hail the Pinktator!

Now this is getting very interesting....

Hail the Pink!

@ Ares & Community

No war is needed. VS will not fire a shot unless AwesomeRuins is fired upon first. I respect Ares and the fact that he has been open to discussion about this.

@ Sam

Sure! But you first! It seems like we're in agreement...unless you've changed you view?

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Let me know what the new names are and if they are worth the effort I will gladly revenge the poor people of AwesomeRuins.<!-/Quote-!>

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Sure! But you first! It seems like we're in agreement...unless you've changed you view?<!-/Quote-!>

I was only looking for swag.

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Dunbar's number does not apply.<!-/Quote-!>

Shows what you know: nothing.

My slave is decimated...oh well, it's been a burden on me for a long time now...I should thank Ares, but then again...I refuse to thank anyone I absolutely have no respect for...

If you have the gall and are up for a challenge (as I wouldn't call it a rematch since I had no experience nor warning), I encourage you to keep your alias...I'll find you...

Every player plays for different reasons. The game is unstable now for sure. Scarce resources and a changing game environment made to ensure this BUSINESS has the best chance of making money has led to this new reality on LU. We used to be able to make a killing on LU in in actives but not alot now. predation can occur, each player needs to decide if they have the "heart" for that type of play. I find that in most occasions I no longer have the heart to be a predator but I dont fault those who do, still call them friends and would defend them because they are friends. If your gonna prey on players you better be good, have friends, or not care about your own assets because sooner or later you will trespass in the wrong area.

Kevin and laguna tend to be "defenders" and will pick up that banner when they see fit. Thats the reality as I see it from my perspective. If they put a player in VS who happens to be under acute threat that is a clear signal to tread carefully or get ready for some fun.

When they(VS) set on you, for any reason, unless you are an elite player(which would likely mean you would be in a bloody protracted draw), you will lose countries. Whom they choose to attack is their business. To imply they are somehow particular about whom they choose to fight would be unfair. They dont fear any player IMO. I think they tolerate a "certain groups" unpredictability for the betterment of the world.

They dont pick fights, for the most part, but they will throw their empires into a shit storm of elite players if they see fit, and dam the consequences.

"Does someone need a hug?"

How was the hug chuck?

Witty aren't we?