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Advanced Question I cant remember answer too. (Kebir Blue)

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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
11 Feb 2012 23:09 Link
OK,

I can remember knowing how to deal with this problem in 2006, but for the life of me, I cant seem to remember out how to solve it, ummm without a pop transfer. (And just 1 didnt help, just added to problem)

What the hell is going on..when you closely monitor your employment levels... my employment index was 96.16%.

I had just built a corp, no new one's were in the making. Wasn't looking to build another one,and was only out of HLM. (Was down 4k of them.) Still had, best estimates, prolly 140 to 150k total umemployed personal left total.

Then Blame... I go from 90B income, to about 56B and sinking. I got from nearly 40B profit to -7 ? You got to be kidding me? At least for one month anyway.

But whats worse...I go from having about 86k unemplyed LLW to over 300k. MLW likewise. Another 300k between the two...and the numbers though less, continued down.Must have been well over 375k to 450k workers who simply arent working.

1) Production AND Hiring set at 100%.

2) I've double checked automation features, everything checks out there.

3) Double checked market conditions..I dont have many corps not full blow red bar. And problem seems to extend to them all..as no catagory is safe.

4) I remembered in the past, that pop transfers do temporairly fix situation so bought 1 million last night. Went to bed. they simply added to unemployment lists...and didnt even replace "Striking Workers."

5) Todays no better...seems almost like the new million simply joined those who wont work. So I bought 2 million more. Waiting for it to come..figure sooner or later those spots will be taken in job market and I'll just rebuild corp's to 97-6% employment.

SOOOOOOOOOO

There's plenty of workers, market conditions is tits. Setting arent set to flow market conditions anyway, so production and hiring should be 100% all the time.

But these assholes wont go to work. I'm a military dictatorship, who happens to have a good salery, pension, SS, and health program for all workers....
I should be allowed to shoot these bastards and simply issue visa to those who will work.
They are messing up Production and profits for no reason at all, like they are on strike or something.

Anyway...help me understand this...freaking idiot thing. Post here or message me in game...any advice, Thank you...

Brince Falcon
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
11 Feb 2012 23:23 Link
Or is it simply,

That HLM play such a key roll in corporations, that a deficit causes immediate cuts in production, therefore hiring...even if you have them both set a 100%.
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
12 Feb 2012 00:24 Link
All right. well 3 million made no difference so i went 5.

Now I'm pissed. And some how, the numbers of Advance Ed dudes is growing in large numbers as well.
I got 500k LLW and 400 MLW workers right now...yet it's showing 300k in each for 100% employment. hehehe
Whatever..ok assholes...it's time to crush the Union beeeotches!

So I'm now going to crush them. I'll just drop Production levels. Less production, means less peeps needed....so these assholes can at least transfer over to the regular unemploymnet list.
I'll drop to 90% for now...see how that effects the thing.
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
12 Feb 2012 00:36 Link
Well these assholes are already effecting production in areas across the board, even deeper then 10%. But an across the board cut should bring down negative list numbers for 100% employment.
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Sunny (Kebir Blue)
12 Feb 2012 01:50 Link
Send me some MLW and HLW. i'll give ya a hand
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
12 Feb 2012 02:19 Link
That didnt work...
Holy cow..added -10B for -14B. And I was close to +40B before this just sprang up hehehe.

Well going back to 100%, 90% wasnt the answer,
I just dont understand why more then half wont just go to freaking work?

I'm alright Sunny, just wanted to know why, you go along just fine, 96% Employmnet, 100% production and hiring...and then snap...I got far over 1.25 Million work deficeit...yet have close to half of them on my unemployed list!

And you cant shoot them.... :(

I just dont understand tho...everything was fine...what the hell! All of a sudden huge deficits just form? hehehe WTF!
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
12 Feb 2012 08:00 Link
It's like your cruising along, and all of a sudden for no reason, all upgrades on corp's just shut off, and you now need staff created for 100% employment when before you had slight surpluses of aviable staff.
WTF!
Whatever!

And even with 5 million pop transfers it's still showing 105k HT eng deficit.

Where did these jobs come from? Funny Stuff.

Well I aint building crap with the "Available Staff" cause apparently these assholes are working two jobs, until they just get tired of it, in group formation mind ya!
Why just quit, quit in a group and throw a party afterwards!
I really would shoot all million 200 hunred thousand of them.

And maybe it will work it'self out by morning.
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
12 Feb 2012 08:14 Link
*Hundred* thousand of them.

speaking of which, Only 208,000 in Millitary, so that wasnt cause either.

Hmmmmm dont know what happened, but its costing my Empire, both in index's and bank book.
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
12 Feb 2012 19:53 Link
Well here we are today, same problem....
Mind ya this is with 5 million in pop trans, no new construction, and production and Hiring set at 100%:


Unemployed'''''''''''Need for 100% Production
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LLW 603468.................229947
MLW 535519.................238390
HLW 144866.................105091
LLM 48000..................31241
MLM 39211..................25295
HLM 9784...................7923

HTEng 203,877.............*278,723
HTSen 45,653...............*59377

Remember these are the same numbers before I bought the 5 million as after. None of the 3 transactions had any effect on it.
And those that can are still not going to work. There's only 2 cats left I have to work on, and nothing...not a school nor outhouse is being built. Whats up with that?

And all this shit started cause I ran into a
-4000 HLM deficit? At least indirectly. And I'm always set at 100% production.

I'm getting that ache in the ass feeling.
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
12 Feb 2012 20:06 Link
hmmm

Cold be they are waiting for higher paying government jobs? So I'm lowering Government Saleries.
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Crafty
12 Feb 2012 22:04 Link
Nope, because you have a shortage of just one (or 2 in your case) type of worker, the corps lay off an equal percentage of ALL worker types. Whats your education index? Also swap some people with other players to get those hi-tech workers ASAP.
The other thing that can screw you up and seems to be happening more often I've noticed is that some CEOs are setting there hiring/production low or automatic and that makes it look like you have shortages you dont really have.
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
13 Feb 2012 02:43 Link
Thanks Crafty.

Well might as well add HT Ex on the list too...down 5000 and there's no way to get more but train them.
I took my Ed index down to 100, but have edged it up to 120 again since this stuff happened.

Hmmmm...Well I did a 180 again and lowered production down to 85%. This added numbers to the 100% coloumn, but it did give me advailable staff again in all professions.

So the problem isnt fixed, but at least I can build again if I want to. The rest is Education Priority and the 26 points I have under HT Ex now.

Well thats interesting Crafty, but I think it sucks you get no real Idea something is wrong, till the thing just all of a sudden goes bonkers! Thats lame as hell.
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
13 Feb 2012 04:46 Link
Crafty, you Devil!

Your like a professional SEX Shop, you got everything the doctor ordered, wall to wall.

Sending Request. hehehe!
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maclean (Kebir Blue)
13 Feb 2012 17:40 Link
I have the same problem at times, if I leave for a few days and let the countries run themselves. Oh, they run themselves all right, right into the ground...Two thumbs up on the idea of being able to stand up slackers against the wall and shoot 'em, to motivate the rest. I've wanted to have that option for years now :)
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
13 Feb 2012 19:39 Link
Yeah,

I dont mind the shortages, but what I do think is fucked, is you get no warning. I dont know how much it cost, but way way more then a 4000 deficit in HLM should cost. Cause it went from there, to just about every other profession. Only LLW and MLW were exempt.

Now I have it down to a few thousand HT Ex...

Mean while my finacial index went from 125 to 105.
My Finacial rank from 602 to 733. my income from 90 b to 60 B, cash went from nearly 30B a month to -8 a month as high as -12 on over all balance sheet.
And my over all rank from 30 back down to about 54.

Biz index went from 115 to about 100.

Pretty freaking expensive for having no clue there was a problem.

But at Least I understnd it again, and have already returned 2/3 of these assholes back to work.

Lesson Learned. Thanks guys, as soon as Crafty oks my request, I should be back in the land of tits and tassles, streamers, and party time.

YEAH Maclean,
Thats the ticket!
This is like day 5 or 6 of the problem. I would have enjoyed shooting these bastards on day two.
:)
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Sunny (Kebir Blue)
13 Feb 2012 20:11 Link
I wonder who is aiding you in all this Brice. ;)
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
13 Feb 2012 20:33 Link
Yep,

Actually Sunny, I was just coming back to boards to mention you. REALLY! hehehe....

Really.


Sunny.... since my coming back from ND has been the only person really to help me. He's been instrument in getting my Ceo program off and going, investing in half of those created.

He's been the only 1 to exchange pop on a regular basis.

Even my brief stay in the Soviet Fed wasn't any help. They were busy voting on stuff and making up their Soviet Fed Government....harmlessly, and peacefully amoung themselves.

But I'm a Gun slinger who's a military dictatorship, thought our mutual love for hanging bankers would be enough...but alas it wasnt.

So I humbly left their Fed with all respect for them.

Yep!
Turns out Sunny is by FAR, the best enemy I ever made.

Thanks Sunny, and I do appologize, I really did think after setting up my Ceo's, which I have 13 now...things would run smooth while I waited for about 40 corp's to upgrade, 50 if you include 10 brand new Ceo's who should be upgrading too.

And just when I got back up to 30 rank, and ready for Auto pilot with a 96.16 employment, up jumps this beeeeeeotch of a clusterfrak thing.

Levels are finally falling now. But what a waste..and it must have cost in the trillions.
Biz index is back up to 111....yeah, but financial is still around 101...far fetch from 125.
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
13 Feb 2012 22:30 Link
Well,

Emergency appears to be over. Only the Damage remains. Either of two exchanges come through, or a few months education system, and everything will again be in order. Prolly only about 250k total still striking now.

Thanks everyone,
For tuning into the Brince Falcon broadcaste channel once again. Hope it wass entertaining!
As long as you smiled or laughed at least once, it's all good! :)
And screw U if you didnt! hehehe!
j/k!

Thanks,
Brince
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Sunny (Kebir Blue)
13 Feb 2012 22:42 Link
Lol,

Your welcome.

P.s. you have 13 ceo's? :/ lol
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
13 Feb 2012 23:44 Link
It's not the lenght but the girth bro.....

One of them, an oil Corp is running 124% production.....

hehehehe.
Yeah...only 13, but at least it's established. hehehe and part of my economy now. Just one step closer to becoming a gunslinger. Which ultimately is my goal, to be able to combat "EVIL?"....hehehe without approval. hehehe!
A ways to go yet. Next on list...a Ceo, I'll invest another 12 or more Ceo corps myself for starters....and that would make 25. hehehe.

Takes time. :)
I'm just like....well... the most aggressive in a litter of cute little Rotty pups!
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maclean (Kebir Blue)
14 Feb 2012 21:16 Link
B. Falcon: I can't remember the name of your enterprise, but please build in my empire if you want. I am offering the same terms as before: 3 GC's for every 5 corps you build, and a bonus after completing 30 corps, and an added bonus if you build 60. {0% tax forever, great welfare, and I take care of population issues, etc.}
Countries:
New Hibernia
New Pontus
New Cilicia
New Thrace
New Narbonensis
New Dacia
New Gaul
New Scythia
New Partia
New Eire
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Lord Neptune (Kebir Blue)
15 Feb 2012 02:09 Link
U are welcome to build in my country (O So Very Different) thankz
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Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon)
15 Feb 2012 17:00 Link
Brince, I would welcome you back to LU with open Arms if it is truly you.

The Brince I knew wasn't too fond of Commies so I wondered if it could truly be(the real) you after your brief stint in the Soviet Fed.
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Borg Queen (Kebir Blue)
15 Feb 2012 21:08 Link
for those of you begging for ceo corps, I think he means he has 13 ceo corps in his country, not 13 Enterprises ^^
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
18 Feb 2012 20:50 Link
hehehehehe,

My Lady Borg Queen is correct, I dont have a Ceo yet, but it's on my to do list. I have 13 Ceo corp's in my country.
Hell, may buy a ceo this weekend since my country is still in Fubar mode. Thanks guys. If I do I'll send construction Requests.

Psycho Honey...hehehehe you are right to have some doubts...and for those reasons...hehehe! But yeah babe..its me.
LOL! The Author of the Poem Nazi Rats is back!

Lets see, how do I prove it... in truth I cant remember my first Fed anymore, but I formed the DKU with my partner Kazari, When we went to war with Stuart, and then the other nazi pac. Ended up pretty much toasting all 6-7 of his countries..with fall out effect, and made him defect. He was a good common KB citizen after that!
Use to shoot the shit with Sam Houston and Defcon. My Mentor was Calloe wolf....

Had 9-10 countries most the time, ranked number 1 in millitary at times, top 10 for the others. My Fed ended up being in top 5 in most cats....
And I managed to get the Same spot on KB, country wise, as I had 6 years ago.

And I did do a brief stint on LU till I ran into Vicious. hehehehe we almost went to war over Factory maintence units...hehehe or lack of them on the LU Market.

Goodtimes goodtimes...

Yep it's me... :)

And your right, even I thought it wierd the only invite to a Fed I got, was an invite to the Soviet Fed. Hehehe when truly I despise communists, but not quite as much as any Nazi..hehehe I mean, after all Stalin killed more peeps then Hilter could have dreamed of. lol!

But I was amused by the offer, and since no one else did, I had a talk with the guy who invited me. He said they just mainly hate corporate greed that we see today, and I do have my own hate for Bankers and the Federal Reserve..so under those small reasons I joined.

But it was a miss match as I thought.

I want to be a gunslinger, dont mind spending money on War, after all it's fun, and get a kick out of destorying unhonorable idiots that show up, and they always do.
Those guys were into forming political parties for their Fed government. They were voting on stuff, I really had no interest in, didnt understand their goals, other then making alot of paper work..so politely left their Fed with a Goodluck.

They seem peaceful enough tho, werent planning world domination or nothing on KB at least, didnt seem to have an evil agenda, actually almost to peaceful hehehe...so I wished them well in whatever the hell they are doing. And politely left..with a final... "Take Care Comrads."

So..alone again, with a country thats gone backwards all over 6000 gawd Damned HLM.

Excuse my country, it's in a shambles still. And my working out of town doesnt help...but I aint giving up.
So I better get my country on KB sailing right, before I go anywhere else, but thanks for invite. It's nice To know I'm still remembered...... :)
And have Friends...hehehe.
(Some important, well known, and powerful ones!)

Sunny's been Great Help as well. I must have made an impression on him too! lol!

I'll be around babe..it's good to see ya.