All national/state country (Little Upsilon)

Fisrt time poster, been playing the game for a few months. Took a little while to get the idea, but i think im learning fast.

I have a couple of questions which someone might help me out with. A click around the wiki didnt really help much.

I started out as a small all state industry country. I expanded quickly with the income booster and with the pop gifts. Have chosen corps to maximise self sufficientcy of the country.

My first question is a general newb one about education. I have continual high tech shortages (execs or seniors), which hamper my country growth. The numbers unemployed stick resolutely to zero (despite my 40-50 priority) from month to month, whilst my employment levels gradually drop. My guess is that my new trainies are replacing the ones that retire/are required as a result of upgrades. Is this the case? should i wait it out or push my universities or soemthing?

My second question is regarding the feasibility of all national countries. My corps sit pretty steady at 190-250m value and never earn that much. I make a profit from year to year by automatic cash transfers from my corps. Quite a good one actually, i could increase my military by 50% (not saying much), but instead i plow it into (120 month) loans to maximise my income further. I notice that back to work schools/clinics are useless without private corps, and i cant upgrade my corps as much as private ones. So, is an all national country feasible? Has anyone done anything like that before? Should i be buying other people's corps rather than plowing my money into loans?

Thanks for all the help. Here are a few relevant stats.

Stats
Pop: 16m
Edu: 100
Health: 103
Trans: 100

PS anyone know a way to change ones username? I made a little typo. hehe.

MDP,

Education Index Push it to 120 and keep going
Health Index always try to keep it on the rise
Transportation Index shoot for 200

lower your corporation tax to 0%, Invite CEO's as even at 0% tax they bring in butt loads of money to your country by paying for resources used. CEO corps are much more profitable then state or national corps.

If you only have a main which should be in secured mode you don't really have any use for the military so keep the index low enough that you still have enough to take a c3 or two.

If you have any further questions you may find me at Empire of Chaos on Little Upsilon.

hope this answers some of your questions

With Regards,
Dragoon

Thanks for the tips. Am currently boosting my education, health and transport. Also have lowered corp tax to 0%. But, since my wages are >500 (going up to 1000) and my employment rate is 94%+, i dont think that new private corps are going to come in.

Anyone got any idea about the HT execs being stuck at zero. I have worked out that less than 50% of my new grads can possibly being sucked up by new gov buildings and upgrading corps. It seems like a bug.

PS What does c3 mean?

Seems your "execs" are indeed being used by upgrading corps. The way to counter it is to increase your Education Index as you suspected. EI of 180 or even more, with proper priorities, would certainly help. Another way is to exchange workers with another country/player.

Unless you aim for high score, you dont need excessively high Transportation or Health Index. Beyond points to score, they do not provide much of a benefit.

Running economy with State corps only is feasible. Not that long ago, well few years ago, this strategy was used by most players, and only with changes to "Country resources used" by private and public corps, players converted to CEO ran economies. Question remains what is more profitable and what are the trade offs? Most would probably agree CEO run economies perform better, however, with State corps you have total control over wages or choice of industries you want to have in your country.

If you have a CEO, personally I'd suggest to register one, you could make your State corps public, through IPO, then take them over with your own CEO, assuring you keep control over everything, keep profits and get the benefits of CEO ran economy. This could take time and effort, but its worth consideration.

c3/s .. computer controlled country/ies

user name .. check "My Account".

Name change ftw!

best strategy is a combination half and half ceo and state corps due to these facts

you need ceo corps in order to achieve a larger work force via converting the cripples and house wives. it can be several million more workers and is absolutely necessary.

in the case you are warred upon all state corps can be destroyed to cripple your economy while ceo corps are safe.

you want some state corps for the sole purpose of fully upgrading them and paying those ridiculously high 1600 salaries and then ipo 51% them to your own ceo and dump the other 49% on the share market for cash profit or else keep the corps profitable and retain state ownership of the 49% and then you are receiving the best of both worlds, 49% of the corp profits stay in country as well as the ceo paid resources ;)

what I do, is basically what shaun said, at least on LU. The best option for running an economy is to build state corps and IPO them to your enterprise. This gives you 100% control over the products produced, salaries paid, and so on. Note that IPOing corporations to your enterprise requires a lot of boring micromanagement....

Thanks for the information guys. It seems pretty unanimous that the way to go is with public corporations and that the ideal method is to found a enterprise to maintain control over my corporations.

A quick question about IPOs then. My state/national corporations appear not to be able to reach teh necessary assets/profitability for an IPO. My state corporations make automatic cash transfers and I cant seem to find the page to change the level of cash this occurs at. As for the profitability, i set my sale prices much higher than other similar corporations (level of upgrades, nationalisation status) bu the profitability is lacking. am I missing something here?

Thanks for all the help so far chaps!

First, National Industries may never be IPOed. Set all of those national industries back to state corporations.

Next, your corporation supplies quality is a serious detriment to your profits. Set all of your state corporations to order supplies at quality 160 (enterprise corporations should buy supplies at 140-ish).

Aim to sell around 290 to 300% of market price. Be advised that there is a price cap in effect currently and you cannot sell products for more than this amount no matter how high you set your sale price at. If you are using contracts to have your corporations supply each other, cancel them and buy/sell exclusively from the world market.

You can't change the level that your corporations transfer cash out at. They are limited to only hold $50 billion. Fix your supply quality to get your corporations turning profit and raise their cash to $50B if they are under that amount. This should allow you to IPO.

im still "non experience" but i had choose a strategy that i dont know if is correct. i have my economy running by CE0s on 7 countries but now that i have a decent empire i have been construting state corps (100%quality) to supply my empires, a soon as ill get the necessary corps to do so, im going to switch off the "Automatic placing orders for products that your country needs" on my countires, is this a good idea? thnks

andrew no need to turn off automatic placing of orders as thats just your back up to make sure you get what you need if you dont need it your country wont order it.

i think quality of supplies should be in the range of 130 to 180, price between 10 and 30% over, salary between 40 and 800, but then again everything is depending on many factors, supply demand world and quality factors to be considered when trying to reach your max profit min cost and they are subject to change so mess around with everything you cant go wrong u can only do better.

ipoing sux period but i encourage ceos to buy my state corps whenever i can. when you build your own corps dont make the mistake of tending to get stupid about it and build all 1 or 2 type per country like i do and then u flood a market and those corps become unprofitable and ask around if you dont know what corp is great right now and bear in mind it wont be great forever

In regards to the supply quality, I thought to set this at 100 so as to be as cheap as possible, but worried about the availability. If, for instance, there is 100M of XXXX produced each month and the quality ranges from 100 to 200 evenly, you limit your access to that supply to about 10% of all that is available. There seems to be a suggestion that higher quality supplies leads to higher quality product, so my 100 quality plan is flawed, but if we all follow advise and set quality of supplies at 160, the same effect should happen. Who's going to buy the products outside the range set?
There is a chance I'm looking to deeply into this.

Dex.

The quality sold and quality bought on the open market is disconnected. Everyone could by 100 quality and sell 300 quality and there would be no shortage. Shortages and surpluses are determined by the total production and total consumption.