UC/GREF Peace Treaty--Official Declaration (Golden Rainbow)

Abe, Chairman of GREF,
After long and careful consideration and many violation of the UC/GREF peace treaty by Wendy and possibly others in UC and maybe some in GREF, I asked UC members for a vote to cancel the treaty. A majority of UC members voted to cancel the treaty and many asked for work to begin on negotiating a new treaty. This is to inform you and members of GREF that we in UC will consider the treaty void after the required time period called for by the treaty.
John L.
Chairman Unitec Confederatin HQ

Does this mean its free for all

Not exactly, We did not cancel the treaty to declare war. The treaty as it stood had very little validity. Another treaty should be renegotiated that actually means something. Kind of like renewing our vows. Isn't that sweet?

I have spoken to Diz about this and he assured that the intention is to design a stronger and more meaningful treaty. I strongly support the peace between GREF and UC and would be willing to fight against members of either side if the current treaty is violated or there is aggressive actions taken which compromise the peace negotiations going forward. I have friends in both UC and GREF and as you all know I am not one who opposes war, however it seems to me that the leadership of both federations are interested in peace and I'd like to do what I can to support those leaders.

WB

Did you hear something... or someone???

Buzzing in the background???

I and others in UC wish to negotiate a more meaningful treaty. I will act or accept a member from UC to negotiate the terms and will look forward to Abe to act as negotiator for GREF or to get a volunteer from GREF to be negotiator.

John L our Chairman, has expressed confidence in me being the negotiator for The United Confederation. I know we have come to deadlocks before and I am known for being a tough negotiator, but I promise to be fair and practical. Reasonable above all else. I look forward to continuing a peace arrangement between The United Confederation and GREF.

If GREF would like to name a negotiator from their federation I would be more than happy to start the proceedings. I'll be available for chat most of the day. Also hope to see Zebz as negotiator, it will give us a chance to mend some differences.

Here is the latest version of the Treaty that I have reworked...hopefully this is the final draft:

1. The Term of the peace treaty shall last no less than 100 game years. After which time, it may be canceled, continued, or renegotiated for different terms.

2. War Declarations are considered a violation of the Treaty and the violator will get expelled from their Federation if the opposing Federation requests it. This is not automatic, but is mandatory for both chairmen of each federation to uphold upon request of the opposing federation.

3. In the case of a Federation member leaving their Federation in order to Declare War, then that member is barred from rejoining the original Federation and the opposing Federation (UC and GREF). This is automatic and neither fed will make any change or disregard this provision.

4. If there are any disputes about this treaty or instances in which the 2 Federations strongly disagree...rather than go to war we will consult a neutral party to arbitrate the issue that both Federations agree upon and that person's judgment will be binding and each Federation must uphold that decision.

We have come to this simple yet binding and hopefully lasting agreement with the understanding that both the United Confederation and the Golden Rainbow Economic Federation want to lead their federations back into the path of prosperity through economic means and avoid war. The United Confederation and the Golden Rainbow Economic Federation by way of charter agree with these principles and that 100 years of peace would be in the best interest of the Golden Rainbow Community.

hmmmmm...soooooo what's up UC? I haven't heard a peep and you guys were the ones that asked for a peace treaty? We in GREF agree in principle with this, but we haven't ratified this treaty yet and are still waiting for your response to go ahead with a vote.

BTW...we had a Mutual Defense Pact with TGC at 1 point.

I thought first of all that we were discussing this treaty, you could have sent a final copy to me instead of posting something on the forum.

You have been the one dodging. I am here everyday, and YOU have been the one missing. So if you want to talk, I'm in chat as usual, and I have told you this several times.

Since you wish to undermine me by publicly discussing a private negotiation. Here is an amended final draft I would be happy to present for a final vote.

1. The Term of the peace treaty shall last no less than 100 game years. After which time, it may be canceled, continued, or renegotiated for different terms.

2. War Declarations are considered a violation of the Treaty and the violator will get expelled from their Federation if the opposing Federation requests it. This is not automatic, but is mandatory for both chairmen of each federation to uphold upon request of the opposing federation.

3. In the case of a Federation member leaving their Federation in order to Declare War, then that member is barred from rejoining the original Federation and the opposing Federation (UC and GREF). This is automatic and neither fed will make any change or disregard this provision.

4. If there are any disputes about this treaty or instances in which the 2 Federations strongly disagree...rather than go to war we will consult a neutral party(who will be Laguna and ONLY Laguna) to arbitrate the issue that both Federations agree upon and that person's judgment will be (not be) binding and each Federation (will place great consideration to that party's recommendation according to) that decision.

(The United Confederation WILL NOT be controlled or ordered to take any action other than those actions our federation chooses to take, by any outside party, nuetral or not. We are a sovereign Federation and reserve our right to make our own decisions based on our own beliefs and conclusions of any discrepancy or disagree ment. Though there shouldn't be any, the treaty is pretty clear.)

5. This peace treaty shall be upheld in any circumstance, and shall not be overshadowed by any previous agreements, pacts, or other treaties either federation may or may not have signed before this treaty is ratified. This is a UC GREF agreement and considerations as to allies of either federation are a separate matter and should be discussed separately, and they shall hold no weight on this agreement.

We have come to this simple yet binding and hopefully lasting agreement with the understanding that both the United Confederation and the Golden Rainbow Economic Federation want to lead their federations back into the path of prosperity through economic means and avoid war. The United Confederation and the Golden Rainbow Economic Federation by way of charter agree with these principles and that 100 years of peace would be in the best interest of the Golden Rainbow Community.

I'd vote for that.

On the same day that i posted this...i sent it to you in a PM...and that is why I was wondering if you are dodging me.

BTW...the TGC thing bothers me because one the of the players you are attacking is extremely ill... besides being my friends.

I will pass my thoughts on to you in PM about the treaty...still needs work.

I'm going to chat right now, I've been there most of the day. Let me know there.

Zeba, Wendy, As a member of UC and it's current Chairman I appreciate your work on this endeavor and look forward to getting UC ratification of a treaty in the near future.

We've managed to stall the ratification of this treaty long enough.

Now I had just recently deregd a few countries on some GREF borders that Steve Boo was crying about. I see that his multi account Rob Kennedy has taken more c3s next to countries I have recently acquired. As well as soaked up some of Tendo's assets.

Last night I took an inactive that was a single country out of secured mode. I received this message in response.

From: The Coming Curse
To: Oblivion
Real Date: 01-06-2010 04:49:26
World Date: February 10 2773
Subject: Fwd: bad for the game
Message: Forwarded from the land of sparta

Wendy why'd you take arkansas? You know the player community is dwindling and we need all the players we can get. I'm asking you as someone who likes this game to take others (noobs and part time players) into mind. As you've seen I won't interfere with you most of the time, nor would something like this cause me to ruffle your feathers (though me writing you may cause you to try to ruffle mine). I just have been saddened by the shrinking number of players and empires in sc, and would like you to keep that in mind as well. Regards, EO

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Now I take this message and threat very seriously. First of all, what business of yours is it if I take a single inactive country, that just happens to be out of secured mode? Even so much that you need to spam my mailbox with 'I am saddened' Wutthehizzelle Eva!

This morning Rob Kennedy is on the border of this very same country. Now I realize you all have a mutual sumthin pact, so I'll be clear and blunt. Steven Ryan and Zebz have been repeatedly whining about encroachment as a roadblock to any peace agreement. So, I derreg more than 7 countries yesterday, and you all respond by sending me spam, and taking countries on my border? So, since I was the one who was attacked by your federation, and agreed to a ceasefire, I am now officially declaring an end to any ceasefire. You guys have had more than enough time to stall and prepare to respond to anything I do. I am glad you have, and since you want to turn every foot into another mile, have it your way. There will be no peace for you and I. If you want peace you should start acting like it.

Peace Treaty is ready to go...you are the only one stalling it up Wendy. You have been pushing everyone's buttons for a long time and everyone has been very patient. You were asked not to take Tendo's counties by many different people...and now Oblivion (Tendo's Country) is part of the problem as it lies in direct contrast to the Peace Treaty and the encroachment issue.

The 4 countries we asked to be deregged were: No Need To Be Alarmed, UC Charter Home, Serenity Bugur, and oblivion...so far only 2 of those have been de-regged. I have no idea what 7 countries you derregged or who told you to derreg them?

EO's message has nothing to do with us, but you shouldn't be surprised as Arkansas / Howard and EO are in TGC...and you have been attacking this fed for some time: Tendo, Christopher.

Oh I'm glad you chimed in poptart. Maybe you didn't notice, but the date at the start of this thread is sometime in APRIL. A FN month for a peace treaty. Lets be real, Aqua Rainbow attacked me, not UC(according to you) so I gave you guys a cease fire you requested out of kindness. You stalled for about two weeks. When you said you were busy, was I not patient? I think I was. And a side note, I asked EO about a month ago about raiding TGC, he asked me not to raid Wild, which I haven't. He gave me explicit expressed consent that I was free to raid Christopher Michael, because "WE(he and Dizzy) don't like him".

You never asked me to dereg anything personally, EVER. I only got word about Oblivion(Tendo's countries which are mine now). Why do you expect me to dereg anything? What does that have to do with peace? You can use it as an excuse if you like. To be frank, I had no intention of deregging any countries because you asked. Deregulation of any country will not be a precursor to any peace agreement.

There is no 'Problem of Encroachment', becuase the treaty was never ratified, so you can't try to enforce a treaty before it takes effect. Gimmie a break. There will be no need for excuses becuase I'm going to war with all of GREF indefinitely. You guys declared on inactive countries I was targeting after I already declared. That is an act of war. Furthermore, tell me how if I derreged 2 of 4 countries, why is your multi account all star, taking countries on my borders? But I am violating an imaginary treaty?

So, there will be war, and there will be peace long after you want it. Failure to come to table was not an option, you played the cease fire very well. I hope you prepared. If you do not wish to fight, you have 24 hours to leave GREF. Your federation attacked and attempted to take a country Tattooed Priest gave to me way back when, and you want to talk about respect? I will bomb, destroy, or conquer whatever I can whenever and wherever I can.

I do not speak on behalf of United Confederation, as you well know Zeba, Jack Jones has taken over as negotiator. If you are interested in peace with the UC the negotiations should proceed as they were. I won't be signing on to any agreements though.

Lol wendy I never said to raid TGC, I said I couldn't stop you. You did TRY to raid Wild Eyes.

I just have no interest in fighting you on a world that I have just one slave, and am not part of an active federation.

Also - Please don't say I didn't like Christopher because I not only did I like him, I would NEVER say that. I chose to start a federation with him, so I hardly disliked him. I know that is a tough concept for you to grasp lol.

Do not confuse my opinions and problems with Dizzy's please. I have not been in a fed with him in over a year, and thusly have not had similar goals to him in quite some time. I do not pay attention to GR and have sold almost all of my holdings on GR. If you are angry with me, feel free to dec my country. Otherwise please leave me out of your negotiations with a party that I have nothing to do with (GREF).

That is exactly the reason you gave. You said it, you can own up to it. In regards to Luonnatar, you stated, "I don't know, she may fight back." ... "But you can raid Chris".... "(Diz) because we don't like him"


That is exactly why I don't mess with a bunch of people now, you'll lie at the drop of a dime to save face.

What were you LoLing at. I didn't read anything funny.

Lol why would I tell my least favorite player in sc (who frequently tries to attack me) to raid my allies?

Btw, Luonnotar is not a she.

*hides under a table*

Hello, Wendy!

Getting a bit sick of this multi crap i do look after robs account its no secret id rather do that and have him dereg his empire as he hasnt had the time too play. im not after any wars but wendy u keep going after everyones account that are sick or havent played of late im not after u wendy but ur raiding everyone no one is safe even the dying

Everyone is sick nowadays? Tendo is one person, so are all of your MULTIPLE MULTI ACCOUNTS. Not just Rob either. If you're gettin sick of it, reduce to one account and play like everyone else does.

I don't care if you are after me, the PMs you have sent me like, "last warning, move it or else' are the kind of messages that tell me you want a problem. I don't have to explain myself to you multi boy, it's a game, guard your *accounts well I will be after them regardless of what federation name they have on them. Even the one you hold in the UC. Yeah thats common knowledge too. You're greedy and you don't wanna share.

I get paid or you sprayed. Good Luck.