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Quetzalcoatl God of War (Little Upsilon)
03 Jun 2008 20:16 Link
And I am a troublemaker? O_o
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David Wood (Golden Rainbow)
03 Jun 2008 20:17 Link
I am no politician for sure, so I will keep my frustration to myself.

I second the 'John L' Proposal, it is the way that the UN, Congress, Senate and Business do things.

The treaty can be posted as a work in progress from time to time to allow the Fed members to make their comments, helpful or not, to their own Fed Chairman, thereby eliminated stupid comments in public.

Thank You John L and Mourning Star for your constructive critisism.
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Ms. K (Little Upsilon)
03 Jun 2008 20:34 Link
HUGS!


Hugs!?

Hugs... anyone?


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Daconia (Little Upsilon)
03 Jun 2008 20:37 Link
Nute and or UC negotiator,
I'm currently studying for finals. This being the case, I'm actually on the computer more than normal. As I said before, Dizzy has my MSN address. If you can't get it from him, in game msg me and I would be happy to send it to you. If for some reason MSN is not acceptable, I'm also on IRC. Just give me a time and how you wish to communicate.
I spoke to Awesome and am currently stripping Minerva Scotia prior to deregging it.

Daconia
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Brince Falcon (Kebir Blue)
03 Jun 2008 20:59 Link
I'm your huckleberry. I love hugs!

Deffy..I like what you have done to the place, lots of interesting new mouths on here. GR is most entertaining these days. :)

Sad to see you and Johnny fire at odds tho...but things change I guess. By the way, hiya Johnny!

Might have to take residence next to the azzhats, if I choose to return, as I'm not part of any agreement on GR, never have been...hehehehe....(might need arms from well stocked AF CEO's tho)

You forgot the loops holes guys, what about friends of DEffY, that have more then a year and half experience, But have been absent as of late.
I think you need to add a super clause, cause Deffy is a wise old fox with many friends!

Peace treaties...what happen to the good ole days of Putting the azzhats in front of a wall.....giving 6 peeps live ammo and one a blank? Peace was pretty lasting then! lol!

OH..dont bother I have read the posts, so am updated from a third person point of view. Even from the WAR thread.

Good times...... good times!
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Nute Gunray (Golden Rainbow)
03 Jun 2008 21:04 Link
Greetings Daconia,

If your only issue with conducting any possible peace talks in the open forum is one of time then we may be close to establishing that the talks can proceed here in an open forum. I have listed my reason for conducting any possible talks in this open forum but i will again list them.

1. This will allow for all parties and all concerned observers to be actively involved.

2. This will provide all the concerned parties with a written copy of all that is stated by everyone involved.

3. We all can see it in black and white and avoid the entanglement of "he said she said."

4. This will give a person a chance to have time to form opinions and perhaps to change those opinions.

5. This will give all stakeholders "buy in and ownership".

and finally as was pointed out by Sun Tzu the United Confederation tried closed door talks with members of Allied Forces prior to this war - those talks failed and there were many misleading statements placed into the simcountry forum.



Now as far as trying to patch together a lasting solution and workable peace treaty in five (5) minutes in an msn chat session I do not think that it is realistic. I will list some reasons why this quick fix idea seems unrealistic

1. The issues between United Confederation did not just happen over night.

2. The United Confederation is governed as a confederation thus each member holds a vested interest in the outcome and has a right to take part in any and all discussions concerning the federation.

3. I believe that we all need time to consider our own thoughts and opinions as well as the thoughts and opinions of others involved.



Nute Gunray the Viceroy
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Daconia (Little Upsilon)
03 Jun 2008 22:19 Link
Fine Nute...discuss away..you know how to get a hold of me when you are ready.

Daconia
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DEFCON
04 Jun 2008 01:35 Link
Nute:

And we are a federation, governed by three, with one person speaking for all. Obviously you would rather cast our fed operations aside in favor of yours. You act as if you cannot communicate with each other, when in the past it seems as though you had no troubles at all. I can think of numerous peace negotiations that were held behind closed doors that ended fruitfully for all. AF will be conducting our end as we wish, after my post you will see no one but Daconia. Feel free to discuss amongst yourselves, and get in touch with Daconia when you have reached an agreement.
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Quetzalcoatl God of War (Little Upsilon)
04 Jun 2008 01:40 Link
Not absent Nazi killer. Just renamed.

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DEFCON (Golden Rainbow)
04 Jun 2008 01:45 Link
Brincy!!! Good to see you my friend!
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Crossdale (Golden Rainbow)
04 Jun 2008 07:05 Link
@Brince, We havent met and I highly doubt you do want to meet me. Incase you dont know UC and the current offworlders have come to an agreement and realize the war is pointless from our view and their view. In any event we don't really care who is friends with Defcon, if you want to come to GR and disturb things than come on down and we can get the show on the road you really should get a better definition of what asshats mean because we don't have any on our side. If you want a problem come get it, go ahead go get those weapons from the AF CEOs you just incriminated yourself. Now you can either relax and realize the big mistake your about to make or come on down and find out. Def may have friends but we do as well so keep that in mind when you make your next move.

Crossdale.
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Sun Tzu (Golden Rainbow)
04 Jun 2008 07:13 Link
On behalf of the United Confederation, I would like to state that I have talked to Nute and we have agreed to abide by John L's proposed:

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1. Each Side appoint one negotiator. AF has already appointed the new Chairman of AF GR (Daconia) as it's negotiator. Now if UC will appoint one and only one negotiator, these two negotiatiors can reach one peace treaty.

2. Once the negotiator have reached a peace treaty, they take their joint product and have it ratified by their respective federations.

3. Once each side has had the peace treaty ratified. Then it will be posted here in the forum.

4. Once ratified and posted for the world to see, Each side will be responsible for enforcing it with their individual federation members.<!-/Quote-!>



However, this being a major step out of our organizational structure we will need time to talk to everyone and prep a negotiator to speak on behalf of the federation. We are currently having debates on how to approach the table and are taking in feedback from everyone as to what they would like to have done.
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DavePat (Fearless Blue)
04 Jun 2008 14:54 Link
Hi Brince! So you coming to GR too?
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Nute Gunray
04 Jun 2008 19:13 Link
Greetings Mr. Brince Falcon,
I am just wanting let you know that I am in full and 100% agreement with what Mr. Crossdale said above. We at the United Confederation are not worried about your implied threats. I too have never met you, and you have not met me but should we meet on the field of war I have plenty of hardware to back up what I say. Therefore, I say be careful when you strat trying to find "loop holes" and you should think about it, take a second, matter fact, you should take four seconds. So now you have been informed. So you make your own choice.
Nute Gunray the Viceroy
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Quetzalcoatl God of War (Little Upsilon)
04 Jun 2008 20:22 Link
More treaty less superfluous tomfoolery.
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Sun Tzu (Golden Rainbow)
04 Jun 2008 23:59 Link
Anything worth doing is worth doing right is all I have to say at this point.
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The Mourning Star (Golden Rainbow)
05 Jun 2008 03:33 Link
Fire bastion is now back in John Fires/"Sun Tzu" hands.

Im nearly out of this at this point. assets are heading back to my main. Ill be dropping my slaves at an accelerated pace over the next week.
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Sun Tzu (Golden Rainbow)
05 Jun 2008 08:48 Link
I have dropped two more slaves, not sure if they were really relevant, but I am going back to a peaceful state.
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Quibs Quarkston (Golden Rainbow)
07 Jun 2008 04:49 Link
Mesmerizing~!! My eyes are now doing the elliptical orbit around Golden Rainbow, just spinning in zero gravity at our Peace movement~!

Huzzah~!!

*Bongo's Beat and Alcohol Sweets, the sound of thumb and fingers snapping; go man, go, repeat this chant, as all can sleep well tonight*

Well done folks, just stay focused. :)
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JMR32 (Golden Rainbow)
08 Jun 2008 04:59 Link
From a "cruit" (what we called noobs in the military): Amazing game, and I've been following the situation closely, as I have an economic interest in the happenings (no country yet, just an enterprise). I'm old enough to remember the mid 60's, and it's wild to see that the game parallels RL so much. When the Paris peace talks for Vietnam started they took months just deciding who sat where and what shape the tables were going to be! Hope the ceasefire turns into a full treaty, and I'll try not to asshat anyone in my business dealings. Cheers, JMR32, Raab Enterprises.
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Daconia (Golden Rainbow)
08 Jun 2008 08:20 Link
Hey Guys this upcoming week is going to be a rough one for me. I have finals this week and will be unavailable from Wed through Sat. I plan on blowing off some steam Sat evening..so assuming I don't end up in jail...realistically I won't be on until Sunday. Hopefully we can get some meaningful talks in the following week.

Daconia
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Nute Gunray (Golden Rainbow)
09 Jun 2008 00:54 Link
Greetings Daconia,
This is certainly a reasonable request. Good luck with your finals. It is my hope that you will stay clear of legal trouble, and that you can perform well on your finals. Prehaps all parties will indeed be ready in the following week real time date June 16, 2008.
Nute Gunray the Viceroy
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SeaPebbles
10 Jun 2008 01:35 Link
"You had your chance multi. All you did was hide in WP like a bitch. I hold you personally responsible for this clusterfu*k. I will respect the ceasefire. However I will remain on GR as long as I please. I will clarify this for all concerned. I do not belong to Allied Forces. Thus they are not responsible for my actions, and as such I reserve the right to depop Dirt/Austia/SeaBiscuit at will. Now that little matter is settled let peace reign on GR."


Now that I'm back I can respond to this drivel from GRs only Goddess.


I have been at war pretty much since late Feb. I have taken over 22 AF countires, helped with many others, and only lost 6 total. Do these numbers sound like someone you wanna mess with? I have yet to see anything you have to offer impress me in any way. For instance, You attacked Raven over a week ago and lost. That was a noob that we coached. Enough said.
I am pleased that you stated that you are not in anyway affiliated with the AF. That makes it SOOOO much easier for me to remove you from GR at MY OWN discression without affecting the standing ceasefire.

General Dirt

PS-My ammo counts are still thru the roof and my CEO is still well-stocked. Oh yeah, still have 400+ nukes. Try me.
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Crossdale (Little Upsilon)
10 Jun 2008 02:32 Link
Amen:)
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Quetzalcoatl God of War (Little Upsilon)
10 Jun 2008 05:28 Link
I stopped depopping Raven when I heard of the ceasefire. I also sent him 5M in pop to compensate for damages I had caused. Unlike you I realize this is a social game. A game I have never felt compelled to cheat at. Asshat.

I spent a grand total of 6T in my campaign on GR. I made a very nice profit. I am satisfied with the outcome. If you wish to "remove me" Crossdale knows where my peaceful trading empire is located. Dont you Dizzy.

And in an ironic turn of events I have the Pope deciding your fate when asked what a multi was.......

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Pope John Fire (Golden Rainbow)
Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 10:46 pm Click here to edit this post Someone who cheats by playing with more than one account. That is the quickest way to ensure that you will be attacked and permanently branded a pariah.<!-/Quote-!>