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Violation of the Treaty between UC and AF (Golden Rainbow)

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Beast (Golden Rainbow)
27 Mar 2009 05:40 Link
Greetings SG David Walker of AF, and Steven Ryan of AF-

Steven Ryan has now violated the AF/ UC peace treaty with his declartion of war Fever against Procifica III. I suggest that we must have Mr. Steven Ryan follow Article V. of our treaty agreement, which states, Any percieved violation must be discussed between representatives of the United Confederation and Allied Forces for a 72 hour period before any action will be taken.
AF should not be talking about renewed and greater spirit of cooperation and then have their new chairman declare on a UC member. It would be in AF's best interest to contact myself or Nute Gunray at MSN and follow this article of our treaty.

Signed,

Beast
Chairman of UC Virgina Bella
Director of UC Foreign Affairs
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Beast (Golden Rainbow)
27 Mar 2009 21:03 Link
Here is the treaty that is/(was?) currently active.


Introduction
In the interest of preserving peace, the United Confederation and Allied Forces on Golden Rainbow agree to abide by the following terms:

Article I.
Both Allied Forces and the United Confederation agree not to attack each other or allow any of their member's to attack each other. Should any member attack the other federation, both federations are obligated to declare war on this member. Should any member decide to leave either federation and attack the other federation, both federations are obligated to attack this member. Both sides agree that hostile acts such as boycotts, uninvited bidding on private and state corporations and anti-nuclear security council resolutions will not be tolerated and will be viewed as an attack. This shall be applied to all current and future members of both the United Confederation and Allied Forces.

Article II.
Allied Forces Acknowledges that they requested a ceasefire from the United Confederation.

Article III.
Allied Forces agrees to freeze expansion on Paova Major and the region of North Franklin on Centura Donna. This means no new countries may be brought under the AF banner in these regions. The United Confederation agrees to freeze expansion on Hercula Major. This means no new countries may be brought under the UC banner on this continent.

Article IV.
This treaty will be posted on the Simcountry Golden Rainbow Forum under the title "The Treaty of the Great War" and will be publicly signed by the agreed upon representatives of the UC and AF. After which, the treaty will come into full effect.

Article V.
This treaty may be renegotiated at any time if both sides agree to renegotiate it. Any percieved violation must be discussed between representatives of the United Confederation and Allied Forces for a 72 hour period before any action will be taken.
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Steven Ryan (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 02:11 Link
Just to get this straight Q was an ally of myself and AF. L3athalSerph waited till Q countries came off of war protection as they were easy undefended targets. Therefore i declared if needed to take the countries myself to later return to Q. whilst these declarations were active negotiations where in place between myself David Walker and L3athalSerph. L3athalSerph would not negotiate and acknowledge the relationship between AF and Q countries and began attacking Q countries i therefore took the first country and L3athalSerph waited in the back drops with his country Dominique and fired the last shot claiming the second country. Dominique at this time was not a UC member or in any federation as he had spoken during negotiations that he was finished with UC.
After Dominique claimed the second country he agreed that he may not try and claim the remaining 2 countries of Q. therefore i stood down and during my time absent Beast claimed the two remaining countries of Q. Since then myself and the chairman of GREF has tried to negotiate the countries back but L3athalSerph has refused and beast has agreed if myself and L3athalSerph agree to hand the countries over for GREF control, the whole situation appears too be stalling. Therefore i recently declared on Procifica III when the war protection expired still not a member of UC and any federation and when L3athalSerph noticed some 2 months after i declared L3athalSerph decides to hide Procifica III into a UC federation. i have also sent this information to Nute Gunray no reply seems to be all stalling on this issue. Now finally i find myself at war violation when in fact it was L3athalSerph whom had violated the AF/UC war treaty it seems that this issue has been a one Way Street regards Steven Ryan AF Chair
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ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)
28 Mar 2009 02:47 Link
None of my business . . .

But was Q not GREF and not in any AF fed?
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Steven Ryan (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 02:51 Link
Q was an allie of AF not in the federation as my twelve monkey fed is also regards steve
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ShcyzMattiCa (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 02:56 Link
Well I am lost here. So you declared on a UC member because you lay claim to this country for GREF? Thats crazy. . .
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Steven Ryan (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 03:15 Link
Read the post lol
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ShcyzMattiCa (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 03:41 Link
Mr. Ryan, with all due respect, honestly . . . is this gonna get out of hand?
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L3athalSerph (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 03:45 Link
apperently this will get out of hand wendy....
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ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)
28 Mar 2009 03:49 Link
Well this is crazy. . .
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Johanas Bilderburg (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 06:56 Link
Two weeks ago I fought a war because someone was invading L3.....

SC irony at its finest.

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Beast (Little Upsilon)
28 Mar 2009 07:23 Link
L3 has lots of friends haha.
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L3athalSerph (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 08:51 Link
Heads up Sam, i aint start this..... (^_^)
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John L (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 19:03 Link
He declared and I declared and then they declared. Seems to me both sides are claiming to be justified in the actions they are taking.

Steven Ryan has on several occasions crossed my path and we were able to resolve our differences without firing on each others.

As a new member to UC, I have taken an oath to defend all countries in UC. I will not bother to question when and why the country is now in UC but will stand by my oath to defend that country.

David Walker has left the building and out with him went the peaceful negotiation he was so successful with. Allied Forces, newest Chairman Steven Ryan is quick tempered and has not successfully gained control of his new fedeartion and has now plunged Allied Forces into a war he cannot win.

This part I address to all loyal Allied Forces members. Loyal to the long understood way of AF not to wage war against active players unless they start the war. I advise all AF members who have been dragged into this war by auto-declaration to send peace treaties to those you find yourself at war. I do not speak for UC on this matter but I am sure most UC members will accept your treaty and help you not expand the war to the peaceful members of Allied Forces. It is not your war and you need not suffer for the reckless actions of your chairman.
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ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)
28 Mar 2009 19:25 Link
I want some SkiTTleZ
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richard (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 21:01 Link
some of my countries are caught in the middle of this i have sent peace treaties out to stay out of this i don't want any war just able to defend my countries thanks richard robinson
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Johanas Bilderburg (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 23:08 Link
The country was not in the UC when the original declaration went out.

Find a better way to resolve your differences.
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ShcyzMattiCa (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 23:26 Link
I have taken positions and intend to fight in this war if necessary.

I will say for myself personally, if things are not worked out, and war does proceed, should any AF member provide air cover against attacks that the country in question should be deemed hostile.

I hope things get worked out as I have stopped short of declaring on AF members directly.

You have until the count of three (3) to stand down immediately and hand over the book.

If by the count of three (3) my demands are not met I will be forced to declare ASAP.

In thirty seconds this message will self destruct.
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jason (Golden Rainbow)
28 Mar 2009 23:54 Link
"hand over the book" LMAO
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David Walker (Golden Rainbow)
29 Mar 2009 03:30 Link
@ John L
I am still around behind-the-scenes in meetings etc. even if I do decide to drop my account. My position remains as Secretary-General of AF irrespective. I've held many talks in recent times about many events with all senior members of UC.

@UC
It is perfectly correct the treaty be used to allow for talks. Many talks have already taken place. UC knew GREF was off limits, including Q.

@L3/Dizzy & Beast
Talks were taking place regardsing the Q/L3 situation and L3 had and UC had agreed to take no more countries of Q's in respect of an agreement that had been reached to deal with the situation.

Further talks will now take place. There would appear to be a number of breaches, of which the first was committed by L3 after he reached agreement with me regarding Q.
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ShcyzMattiCa (Golden Rainbow)
29 Mar 2009 03:35 Link
well now that is 1 . . .
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L3athalSerph (Little Upsilon)
29 Mar 2009 03:58 Link
what are u talking about David? after the whole Q deal was put into place, i went into hybernation waiting for Q to return and i come to realize that Steven took it upon himself to declared on the country i owned of Q's. I see that as a breach to our agreement.

ON another note, i could careless if the country itself wasn't in UC since i believed it under the protection of my agreement with David. Now who in their right mind would think that me as a chairman of THe UC, one of my countries wouldn't be protected under the UC? seriously....


@Sam hope that was an auto dec towards my country from you.

-L3athal
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ShcyzMattiCa (Golden Rainbow)
29 Mar 2009 04:06 Link
>>2<<---- . . . I want that book.
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jason (Golden Rainbow)
29 Mar 2009 04:34 Link
I got a book for you wendy. its by General patton.
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ShcyzMattiCa (Golden Rainbow)
29 Mar 2009 04:38 Link
So you will not surrender ?!?!?

You have offended me and thus dishonored my family.

Now I have to Kill you. And avenge my ancestors.


Prepare yourself . . . for Mortal Combat.