GAAAARRRR!!!!! (Little Upsilon)

Actually, my post was not intended for dramatic purposes, Quetz. I exercised my right to voice my opinion just as you do. What I stated is what I really believe to be true. It has been my argument all along. Honestly, I really dun give a rat's a** what Woad's reply will be, because it will be more nonsense and lies. lol

Woe woad, someone called you a toad, not a goad, you got showed.
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can i point out, that the attitude that every returning player, and 90% of the newbs are all one player, (or group of players,) your not really creating an inviting environment for new players.

and i'm torn on inactive raiding. I never did much of it, because their were always a handful of players that would beat me to the punch. back then, i would fix my econ stuff first, and miss out of inactives, that feds being possesive of their inactives. i never had much oppertunity. although i did get a few.

insert here, that i talked an ally once into raiding an inactive for the wealth, and experience. he was having a difficult time, and big war vet, (who is now my ally,) took the inactive right out from under him. their is no rule that can stop stuff like that. their is no rule that will prevent 4-6 players from raiding all the inactives, and leaving scraps for newbs.

so the argument that opening up inactives for raiding, being good for newbs? i doubt that. most of the inactive will go to experienced players... but i really don't see that as "wrong," i just see that as an excuse to force a change that really wont live up to the goal.

yes, newbs will be able to raid. yes it will help, but to be real for a sec, this will benefit the established player more than the new player. this isn't about new players, its about hording resources. not that i have a problem with that. jeese, it'd be rather hypocritical of me to bash hording... i'm just saying, newbs will gain less of an advantage than vets.

@ Lorleil There's no mystery. I dont have to explain myself to anyone. Not like this anyway. Couldnt you sent a message say hi? welcome back to the game. Have we met before? No we havent btw.

Who wouldnt be defensive been called a noob, a roach?

Why should I care if you pay attention or not? Quite frankly your judgement stinks so I dont give a shit.

I quote Josias: "can i point out, that the attitude that every returning player, and 90% of the newbs are all one player, (or group of players,) your not really creating an inviting environment for new players."

Well Josias had it not been the abuse of the game by such a player or players, it wouldn't really be an issue, would it? It is the misbehavior of one or some that have caused this suspicion and attitude in the game. So you have yourselves to blame for ruining the game. It is rather ironic that you try to 'correct', seeing as you play with and support the very player(s) who have created this problem in the game.

You want to improve the game and the way that potentially new players are treated? Clean up your gaming ethics. (I'm not talking about you personally, per se, here, I'm addressing the ones who do not play above board.)

Woad, I'm not really an advocate of name calling. And there is nothing wrong with being called a noob, if you are in fact a new player. :-)

i mean, if you can prove it, then send the evidence to the GM. send it every day. until they do something about it. but really...

considering that you are guilty of the "area," of misconduct... i could guess why you don't. and before you denigh it. i know it was you that was controlling bobo's countries when i was fighting him. he told me so. and this was after the whole blue account hyjacking, considering that i was fighting bobo for his part in your hyjacking of blue's account.

really, if you have a leg to stand on, its a peg leg.

Josias. I can see where you are coming from. My thoughts..? Most of the more experienced players want newer players to get experienced, to be able to challenge them, econ and military. Some may be the vultures, but normally that is feds looking out for their own 'property'. A retired fed member has had the benefit of the fed so the fed does have some claim I would have said. There are some rapidly growing new feds of newer players, who are very active and can benefit from this. Let me state that personally I have no intention of asking for this for my own advantage, and I really think most of us 'vets' would behave the same. If they don't, well thats kind of up to us to deal with if its not liked.

@Woad, just state your past and your detractors cant argue with you can they. Everyone gets called a multi and cheat and this and the other, prob due to a couple of players who have been caught red-handed, but obviously its not everyone. And no, you can fight wars against C3s up to war level 7, thats when it gets interesting and you can earn some swag!

Josias, I deny nothing. I know my wrong doings from before as KissOfDeath. The difference between you and I....I can admit it and I even admitted such to the GMs. I even offered to leave the game if they saw that I was the problem. Instead they took care of the problem, and it wasn't I. :-)

Furthermore, if Bobo told you that, it isn't true. I will ask Bobo if he did in fact tell you that or if this is just another one of your lies. I know nothing about how to fight, so I don't see as I could have been the one fighting back. I just shake my head at you and your pathetic attempts to try and take the heat off of you and yours.

As far as proof, WildEyes, herself admitted to me just the other day her wrongdoings as it pertained to me in the game, and apologized. I have set aside my differences with her and accepted her apology.

I was merely stating a factual problem in the game and explaining why noobs are questioned and are suspicioned. Interesting how you respond on the attack. Doesn't take a genius to interpret human behavior here.

And can I ask you a question regarding Blue's account. You said you were fighting Bobo for his and my part in hijacking blue's account. Why are you championing Blue? and why months later? Don't you think if he wanted me and Bobo punished, per se, he is not quite able to do so himself? You are not even game mates.

Furthermore, while my behavior then was not right, Blue knows the why's and he is my fiance for God's sake. lol

Furthermore, this is NOT why you said you went after Bobo. You said you went after Bobo to get back at me. You are such a liar...just like when you said you would return to Bobo his countries. You put em up for bid, Bobo said he placed bids on three separate occasions, yet you never accepted. You are so dishonorable, it actually makes me sick to my stomach. Then try to turn around and sell them to me for 500 gcs each. A joke.

You wonder why the game is failing? It is players like you that make the whole gaming environment so 'unfun', why should we stay? Bobo left, he was so disgusted. I, myself, am disgusted. How many more players are you and yours going to run off? And why do you want them to leave? So you can have game domination? Shakes head.

I still stand on my opinion. If whoever would stop with the name changes and messing with long time players, the multi account playing, then there would be no need for any new player to be questioned in this game.

I rest my case.

J. Skullz (Little Upsilon)
Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 06:35 pm
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Woe woad, someone called you a toad, not a goad, you got showed.
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LOL thought this was very funny

I had no idea this was such a big deal.

Reluctantly to stop any player suspicions of me been a multi or whatever i'll say my past.

Last time I played SC I had a 10 or 12 country empire on GR. I was part of Allied forces when we went up against matt. Cant remember what user name I had but my leader country was called Gangland. I left just as that war was ending. Ive had 2 large empires before that. Both on Kebir blue. The first I had was over 40 countries which was an average empire size in those days.

Never really interacted with anyone outside fed mates. Sadly I dont see them around no more.

I hope that kills of the suspicions.

Population is the swag im after crafty ;)

After reading pointlessly Woads retarded responses, it is clear to me that he is a moron, and has the bad attitude. He claims to be less than a week old, but after sticking his foot down his own throat admits he isn't new....DUH!


You are a ROACH period. Calling you a n00b at this point would be an insult to real n00bs. This is the very reason war levels were introduced. To protect idiots like you who can't follow their own line of BS and 'stay to themselves'.

Now that the cat is out of the bag, we see why they are useful, you are NOT and why they are here to stay.

YaY war levels... YaY Can 'o Raid!

Die CockRoach!

lies? really?

so did bobo leave, like you said? or is he going to take those countries back from me? also like you said? did he quit or didn't he? i mean its really cool to blame me for something, and then threaten me with a situation that is the exactly opposite of what i'm being blamed for.

and yes, i did fight bobo to punish you. an act that i normally would distain, but sitting with so much protection that you run your mouth, and expect your buddies to back u up... so considering his involvement... why can't their be multipul reason? i mean, you demanded i return those countries to you, and then threaten to "have them removed from me," not threatening to do it yourself, but to have some one else do it. and the best part, you threaten to have bobo remove them... and at the SAME time, blame me for him quiting? you know pick one. the points are opposite.

"i know it was you that was controlling bobo's countries when i was fighting him. he told me so." -Me

I didn't say you fought, i said you controlled the countries. I never receive one bullet in return fire... you how ever did move occ units around to unpaint... when the war was over, and i got to gether with bobo, one of the first things he said, was that it was you, lore

as far as not returning the countries... their was one bid that would not go through because of the asset error. a second bid, that i just didn't notice until the time expired. those were the only ones i noticed. their coulda been more, but i didn't see them

i did want to return the countries to bobo. between my cost in taking them over, and what i invested into them. with how i IPOd them, i'd have made my money back in 6 rl months. and it would have been to my advatage to have some one else control the country, making me money. it would have been to my advatage, to give the back. additionally, i like bobo. and i set those countries up to make him money, so it'd be good for us both. and even further yet, i fixed the defense, so it was stronger than when the war started... just so i wouldn't leave him defenseless at wl6. i was hoping to create a long term economic partnership between him and i. and i'm really disaapointed that i couldn't return them.

my biggest concern about returning them, at the time... bobo had been semi-active, mostly inactive. and i was conerned whether he'd keep them up. but it was my hope, that if he had something that was managable, he'd manage it... and collect money until he was ready to be more active. it was a gamble, that didn't even make it to the table.

at the time you told me that he had quit, i had logged into sim chat, just to let you know i was still trying to return them, and i had been trying to find him on msn so that we could do it all at once, and avoid the asset message... but you ignored that, and started demanding i return them... calling me a lier.

how ever now, things have become so confused... he quit? and doesn't have access to his MSN? i know that you had access to his account after the hyjacking incident... so i just can't trust i'd be giving them back to bobo.

I can see there's no getting through to you. Last time I try to clear this up.

"My country is only a week old" Doesn't imply that im only a week old. Look at this thread were almost the first thing I said was im not a noob. https://www.simcountry.com/discus/index.html. Check the dates.

And im the moron? I suggest you re-read whats been said. At no point have I pretended to be new

Josias, try as you like, I have NEVER controlled Bobo's account. Yes, I admit my behavior has not been above reproach. But I assure you, I do play the game fair, at least I have always thought I have. I don't come in under new names and bash other players. If I have something to say about someone, I just say it under MY name. I'm not above being wrong, but I'm also not stupid. I know where my problems in the game originated and you play the game with them.

I'm really NOT the bad person here. Never have been. If anyone who knows me in this game, knows the real me..... how I used to be before I became the target of ugly chat games and such nonsense, something no paid gaming member should have to be a part of. Perhaps it is my fault as I do engage in it by responding. But jeez, for how long should I have to deal with it? Well I'm telling you and the others in your game clique, I'm weary of it. Alot of people are weary of it.

Attack me all you like. You don't like me. Accepted. And if I run my mouth and my loved ones or friends wish to back me up, that is their decision. But I will always speak my mind, so deal with it or ignore it. :-)

I'm not saying anything more on this subject, because I have at last come to realize it is beating a dead horse. Y'all play the game as you see fit and as ugly as you wish to do for the purpose of some game ego.

o good, your finally done going on about it, about time, jeese.

Who is woad???

lileth lol...changed that post real quick,lmao

I change my mind.....end this thread please.

ooooooh its EC

gotta be up real early to catch ol blue out LMAO

did u have to change names back to repost LMAO

fn gosh dangit!

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Woad, I have not called you a n00b, In reality where the rest of us live, I accused you of being the exact opposite Someone pretending to be a n00b.

If I gave you a shovel, you'd dig your own grave. But thanks to war levels, you won't have to lay in it.

Don't you love War Levels now? I think I need some extra strength Raid. The normal strength doesn't appear to be effective on your species of Roach. Must be a sign of the times.

wendy, are you really criticizing some one for talking while being protected? last i heard, you thought it was smart to be protected while irritating people.

woad, if you are looking for a fed, or have any questions, or if i can help in other ways. please send me a PM on LU to my main, "central orbital"

WP/ WL not anywhere near the same thing. At any rate mind your business. Is suits you better.

just wondering, i mean, this guy obviously has a new ACCOUNT, but is not claiming to be a true newb, just new in returning. seems very clear to me, and it seems very clear you are trolling. newb bashing, (if you can call this that, but its easier to type than returning player bashing...) newb bashing is one of the very things that you claim to stand up against. but here you are doing it. and ironically critisizing some one for being protected while they irritate bigger players. although, i really don't think this guy has tried at all to irritate.

i mean back to my first point...