Obama v. Romney

and crafty I can appreciate the American dream man wealth and freedom but I can also appreciate the hippy bull to our founding fathers were hippys ill probably move one day to a nice well to do European country that doesn't spend its time in debates asking weather we should teach evolution anyways so idk why I care so much about America

Well I had a great public education in which my high school had a grand graduation rate of 50%. I worked full time until I was 21 to pay for college upto my MBA (Masters in Business Administration), I continued my education further and obtained many things, PC Technician certificate, CCNA. Real Estate Liscense, and my CPA. In which I only recieved a couple Pell grants for but not until my last year. Sure I've used our system a little. Everyone has, everyone needs to, to gain the opportunities to succeed. But the issue here my friends is that opportunity doesn't equal financial gain, and financial gain doesn't equal happiness.

That is the real lesson in all of this. However Crafty I'd like to point out that you are wrong. Luxembourg, Qatar, and Malaysia off hand have higher income per capita then the states do. I presume the median is far less.

Also I'm not really a commie. I'm just anti-captilist. The fed HAS to do what is in the best interest of the people not the few who take advantage of the system. That's why I'm not sure Alex turned on me like this. He agrees, stop bailing out the gamblers. Yet whatever... If you would simply open your mind to the possibilities instead of simply what is in front of you, and petty gains that are pushed down your throat you will be much liberated and you finally be able to grow as a person

What about the founding fathers being hippies? I don't get it..

I consider myself a red blooded leftist who still would enjoy a good read like End the Fed. All view points have some sort of pragmatic value.

And speaking of pragmatism, remember that one system does not always work for every nation or culture. We in the west, particularly the US, have a more individualistic approach to things, and how we relate to each other. The wheat growing, protestant work ethic occidental world view. Go east, you will find our rice growing cultures had to live in more communal settings,which resulted in philosophies that promote not the individual but the betterment of the community.

As an American, born, raised and happy to be one, I get that my history promotes individualism, freedom and self-reliance. I guess what I'm saying is, when in Rome, do as the Romans do... (but it's ok to have your own ideas and viewpoints, even leftists.)

I like that we have diverse arguments in our society, if anything we don't allow enough! Republicans and Democrats do not represent ALL of the US, and I think every American would agree with that.

Can we make a "Social Pragmatatic Party"? (I made up the pragmatatic word) hehe

well atleast our college education system is good its just most kids nowadays go get some bullshit major just to say they went to college

our founding fathers were very liberal for there time and by default "hippys"

and I read a book on different education systems and it said in America with wheat growing and stuff the field has to lay fallow while in China the rice paddies grow more fertile with every planting and this led to people in America thinking that children needed long breaks to rest their minds saying to much education was dangerous while in China obviously the oppiosite is true very interesting stuff how something which seems so irrelevant actually seems to have such a large impact on societys

and actually ive thought of making my own political party with he word pragmatic thrown in there or something so actually I made it up hehe Great minds think alike I suppose

and conservatives are nothing like our founding fathers they are a dead party

yes, the differences between east and west with the wheat and rice cultures is common in sociological studies. that was my major. there are basic conditions that will determine the characteristics of a culture, geography, demography, economics, and technology.

good stuff

we need more political parties

yes I agree we ethier need a Multi party system or no party's at all

Multiple parties are dangerous. The problem is our voting system and the amount of uninformed voters until that is fixes then there is no way a strong 3rd or 4th party would be good.

I'm not saying the expression of different ideas aren't good, and I'm definetaly not saying that a 3rd party candidate wouldn't be better than the others. But if you look how close this election will be, and the fact that one state can change the outcome our election system is too fragile to allow, 1 person that was 60% of the people's 3rd choice (of the general) the ability to sabotage the country, yikes. Majoritarianism not present in a democracy? sounds good but a... Anywho it's dangerous. Unless we can have like a political tourney where you vote each candidate to the next round. But then people will be sabotaging other candidates not based on merit but danger to their candidate. Well I guess we have worse problems anyways, like how rednecks (not intended to mean southern Americans, but rather southern idiots) that are coherced into believing that capitalism, the free market, and job creators somehow make their lives better. **rant over**

Khome it is pleasure for you to have joined the forum

basically we need less partisan politics like khome said we have pigeon holed ourselves

Drew, are northern, eastern and western idiots included in your definition of 'rednecks'?

As a resident of central NY, and once the Catskills, I have seen plenty of gun toting atv drivers trailing up the mountains. hehe

I know, the free pigeon party, now i'm being silly.


Thanks Drew

Drew!!!! Dun talk bad about us rednecks!!! Da Snake (Serpent) and I are from Tennessee. We gets kinda sensitive like about our heritage! ha ha ha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDxSgq88Clw

Thought I'd reintroduce ya to our culture. ha ha ha

It's nice to know that people still read my posts, I thought everywhere would have surely started ignoring them by now. Rednecks can be anywhere and everyone. If you enjoy the antics of Jeff Foxworthy you may be a redneck. =)

Elections are war now Alex. Partisan lines are more like nationalities, because people are dumb and the side that doesn't coincide with your own will bring a thousand years of darkness. right?

Drew, I always enjoy reading your posts. I admire your ability to debate your ideas/opinions with such conviction and intelligence. BTW, I'm not really a redneck at all. lol I'm more of a yuppie type or in my case a o-uppie since i am no longer considered young. ha ha ha :P

This is actually what the world needs!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XluWvWa8pIc

I dunno why, but I thought of you, Jason, when I saw the new Hardees drippy BBQ hamburger commercial wif the two girls. ha ha ha ha ha The comments I'm hearing around the water cooler from other women in the office, is it is disgusting! ha ha ha I said... not to da men. They are such simple creatures and out rushing the drive thrus now. ha ha ha

Actually, that Hardees commercial is not really appealing to guys either. Food and sex don't mix, unless your George from Seinfeld.


If you listen to Patton Oslwald, you know your a surreal nerd.. ---> ME

I dunno Serpent had a fit over da first commercial wif the girl and the drippy BBQ sauce on her leg. I distinctly remember! ha ha ha


You a Seinfeld fan? lol But, as to food and sex...... they actually both can be very sensual and satisfying. ha ha ha I just saw a Seinfeld episode last night about whether the woman's experience with George was better than the Risotto. ha ha ha

And a few more redneck women

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82dDnv9zeLs

the only episode I remember at the moment was George under the covers with a woman and sneaking a bite of a hot pastrami sandwich. lol classic

ok, sensual foods are chocolates, strawberries, wine etc...

a hot chick with a bucket of hot chicken.. eh.. one at a time please

Oh I remember that episode! It was classic.... ha ha ha ha George was Gold!

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You mean the inbreeding?

Gotta keep it in the family!!!

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