Nationlized Corporation !!! (Little Upsilon)

One of Crafty corporations in my main country on LU was losing money, and I nationlized it. This corp has 720 Land Based Cruise Missiles in it. Its market value was $150B. I paid almost $300B for that corp. I knew that deal included those missiles. I don't know why he keep telling me that I stole his missiles. You guys be our judges.

Did u tell him u would nationalize it first?
No, then u stole his missiles.

That corp ran at a loss because it supplied me with cruise, you cant buy them on the market.
Not only did you steal them, you also stole the corp, its called hostile bidding. A normal corp I guess I wouldn't say too much, after all you are paying over the top for it, but I'm sick of new people coming along and thinking they can just buy up any corp they want. Always ask first, always, then there would be no problem at all. Its just common manners anyway.

Weapons corps arent the best at making money.

players use them to contract to themselves, even if at a corp loss.

regardless of if it was losing or not, it wasnt your corp so you should have asked him and not just taken it.

This is the very same conflict that Corporate Partner got involved with and he claimed he "liberated" some corp I stole or something to that effect.

Umut Deniz bid on my lbc corps claiming I was inactive. He wouldn't apologize and began spewing hollow threats vowing to "do me in" with his whole reserve of 200 coins(lmao) and threatened to continue bidding and he didn't disappoint.

He continued bidding on my strategic corps. I responded by share buying control of almost 80% of his economy for pennies on the dollar. I gave him many chances to stop the cycle and by this point a lesson was in order.

I set all the salaries to 100, to start. He got ticked. Market Value increased as the salaries went down and my superior settings grew the corps value. Bidding his economy back was not an option. He then got some bad advice and turned up tax to 75%.

That then allowed me to move all the corps out of his country free of charge. Once I recouped my money through share market trading and making this endeavor cost free, I then sold off all the shares and got back to even, I made about 40Trillion after selling back the outstanding shares I had controlling his corps. He began replacing these corps he lost with electric corps and lookie now. The Electric market is in shambles and hes drowning in debt.

I hoped he learned his lesson. Corporate partner then began bidding and producing make believe stories. I just thought I would share that lesson for you all who should not be bidding on players corps without permission. I made several attempts to help Umut understand the game and make money. But blinded by numbskull fools and that foolish troll corporate partner, he had it all figured out. Corporate Partner stopped bidding a while ago. His Enterprises were in debt in no time. I guess he taught himself a lesson. He doesn't have the cash or wit to wage an economic war with me on his or anyone else's behalf, especially in this case of an original hostile bidder named Umut Deniz.

Dumbasses.

My advice is to stay away from these 2 or 3 players. They give out mediocre and sometimes seriously pathetic advice that Corporate partner copy pasted from John Fires site onto CP's sim Blog. They are terrible war players and although they may appear knowledgeable they are not. On every level, economic, or war. And please. Never share your account info with them because they were "watching" an account for someone and got their hind parts tossed up for nuking me, and I would hate to see the same happen to some poor innocent naive newbie.

I do not seeth any reason for objecting when a corporation be nationalized. 'Tis the responsibility of the CEO to make profit as 'tis a privelege to open the corp in one's country, not a right. The Ceo has privelege granted by the nation and must reward the nation with sound governance of the corporation.
As for Umit, his name hath become synonymous in the Byzantine Empire with the word idiot. As in "why art thou acting like a Umit". I tooketh 3 inactive countries from a player named "Alterd Carbon". The player hath left the Fearless Blue planet quite some time ago. The nations were allied with the great candy confectionery federation known as Three Musketeers. The nations were completely useless to this federation. Yet Umit, an agent of the Three Musketeers, decided to defend this empire. He delareth war on mine only nation at the time. He declared war too late and was unable to prevent mine very easy conquest. However he appeareth to have powerful military and I assumed he would easily take my nation. I took a c3 before his war declaration taketh effect to make up for mine expected loss. Thence I left my nation (named Armenia) open and undefended for his easy conquest.

It should hath taketh him only one or two simcountry days to taketh the nation. Instead he unleashed evil weapons upon the hapless populace. The fiendish weapons killed millions. His Turkish empire was merciless. But he did not take the nation. Instead he merried in the destruction. I raided his nation called Yeliz in hopes he would stop and taketh the nation. But he continueth. I thence decided to end the affair. My military spies reported he hath not defended the cities of Yeliz. I ordered that these fiendish weapons be used against Yeliz. Alterd Carbon hath many of these weapons in the nations I conquered. Just one weapon not only wrought havec upon the nation, but also destroyeth half his corporations. Umit now understood, but since his wicked weapons destroyeth Armenia's cities he suffered diminished returns whence he finally decided to end the war due to his fear. It taketh him 3 (real) days to subdue the undefended nation of only 13 million. I spent nothing defending it.I had ample opportunity to taketh his little nation of Yeliz but decideth against it. Twas not worth it. He taketh the now dimished Armenia and had to deal with it's debt. He faileth in his effort to stop my conquests. Yet, he nameth this one obliterated nation "3M Winner". Thus, his name is ridiculed in mine empire.

Psycho, i demand we be partners lol

I would STRONGLY encourage everyone to NOT subscribe to Renegade's pro-nationalism philosophy.

Nationalization of another player's assets is an economic act of aggression. It is a tool that should be used sparingly, and only against enemies of state.

Whilst it may be a privelege for a CEO to build or maintain in your country, it is just as much of a privelege for your country to get the investment at all. There are multiudes of countries that show more respect for property rights in which a CEO can choose to invest.

Profit alone is not an indicator of a corps health, nor of its purpose within a CEOs chain-of-supply. Many corps necessary to run other corps run losses. These corps still pay your country hefty Country Resources Used fees, and employ your population. You could nationalize the corp and eat all that cost yourself.

You're also burning a whole mess of bridges! There are many fewer CEOs than presidents! Don't upset those few that can and happen to be interested in investing in your country. No one else will.

Crafty. If you know that I had paid for those missiles in the corporation, why you keep telling me that I stole your missiles? When I bought this country from another player, I have a right to make decision for the country. I nationlized it in order to close it, and build another corporation.

Can I buy those missiles?

It would have looked better on yourself if you had ASKED him to move the corp instead of using a hostile bid.

You would have still got the worker back to build your corp and Crafty would still have his corp.

Trying to justify your action makes you even more of an arsehole

Let it be said that mine emporor Justinian hath never ordered a corp be nationalized. I speak only of those corps that be unprofitable as a general rule. Mainly those war making material corps. Thou speaketh of employment offered by such money losing ventures, but faileth to note the highly skilled workers such corporations taketh from the labor pool and thence be denied to the profitable corps which be in need of such skilled workers. I hath also seen many profitable nations who hath not had to rely on other CEO's other than thine own. I only defend the principle of a nation having it's national rights not infringed upon or questioned. You speaketh with two tongues. One sayeth corporations have only priveleges and thence claim they have property "rights". Nay.They haveth no rights. Thou must end your internal debate. Art thou a republicon?

another tit climbs out of nowhere.....*sighs

I'm quite liberal, but still have respect for others and their property. Act as you wish within the confines of your country, but I think CEOs would be well served to stay far from it.

Oh, and with a little proper management you should be able to avoid high skilled labor shortages. Nationalizing corps because you dont have enough workers is an aggressive act and indicative of extremely poor labor management skills. (Again, a president CEOs should avoid doing business with.)

If you aren't going to extend respect to the CEO for the money they pay to build the corp, make upgrades, employ your workers (which would otherwise be on your unemployment rolls) then don't court or accept CEO requests. Nationalizing corps because you dont like it's performance (all the while, not fully appreciating why it's performing as it is) is not a liberal idea (as you imply, Renegade), it's a communist one.

This is the reason why CEO needs some form of protection. Countries are able to nationalize up to 24companies that cant be bidded. It would be fair to let CEO have some form of protection much like this. CEO can make space/weapons corps without the constant fear of being constantly bidded on. There should be a warning for before nationizations take place. Give the player 24hours to move after which if they haven't they are bidded on.

I agree with the time-cushion to relocate before a nationalization bid becomes effective. However, CEOs have to educate themselves as well. Get to know the presidents they're doing business with. Research which presidents respect free commerce, and those that don't. Sadly, most CEO-president relations consist of nothing more than build/relocate requests. Those relations should include some exchange of information about the stability of their tax rates, nationalization policy, approach to dealing with worker shortages, etc.

Not to toot my own horn, but I'm posting that type of info for CEOs, so they can feel more confident investing in Athretvari and her dependencies.

ythretvari.blogspot.com

The way this guy is writing and speaking sound, I don't like him. Renegade.

so you mean that Atlanta can't explain for his action or decision, BLUESERPENT ? You should not cross the line, dude

Advice to anyone reading this thread forget it - its for noobs, asshats, multiplaying wannabe's and anyone else who has too much time on their hands.

you took his corporation
you took his missiles
end of story
have a nice day
its up to crafty what happens next!

Discounting the fact that someone must consider himself a member of one the above mentioned categories of players since he decided to read the thread, internalize its contents, formulate an assessment, and plop down his own two-cents....

This thread is important if for no other reason, in that it's meant to inform new players of the disruption and resentment they can cause with nationalizations. They're not taken lightly by CEOs and new players should be aware of that.

MikeHonda....if u click on your name it says....... Message to Atlanta is?..LMAO.......FAIL dude.


Gotta be up very early to catch ol Blue out



.......next

That's funny. =)

Whats even funnier is these idiots think they are good at it and are undetectable

It is me. I just change my nick. If Crafty wants that corp back. He can bid on it, and move out of my country. The thing is that I don't get it why you guys can't tell the difference between buying and stealing. My country has paid for all materials already.