Happy Holidays Everyone!

as i said, i'm not on the in, i was talking about the Hydra concept

"Many heads, many voices, many wills, together for their common success."

as far as the specifics, ask Aries. But i'll tell you, you can't have every one on the same side, all the time. And you can't have all the best players keeping the peace. that has been done, and its been as devastating as the wanton destruction it replaced.

and as far as Jan quiting, jeese, that happens like every 6ish months. for some reason, their is always some one calling her names. and it always bothers her, and she always quits, and she always comes back.

i've gone rounds with her, and even attacked Bobo because she choose to talk allot, while being in protection. After, because i regretted going after Bobo, for something he had nothing to do with, and he was inactive at the time, i was going to give countries back, after i fixed them up, but could never hook up with Bobo to return the countries. which led to even more hostility.

frankly, i'm stunned that she even had a country that could be attacked! quite the dramatic improvement! But thats part of it, you can not expect the reward, with out the risk And if their is risk, by definition, you can loose. W/O being on the in, i can't say that any one was right or wrong.

But considering that i've got quite the history with Jan, and whats written here, it strikes me as the happy family is just upset that they can't ally with anyone/everyone that is capable of defeating them. Thats how this comes across to me.

But like i said, i don't really know. Ask Aries. But i sounds like he's already stated his position.

I hate to inform you Josias but Jan will not be returning to the game this time. She asked me to clarify that for you when I copid to her what you posted. Her only reply is that even your post only strengthen what she was talking about.....no loyalty, backstabbing, and the so called farce she sees in the game. There are no friends here. Happy Endings she said.

As for what I posted that Is how I have been made to feel as a member of Hydra on another world and a supporter. There is something really wrong here. Any ways thank you for your two cents, when nothing was even said about you. Interesting.

slander all you want nico I will just lol

you are the aggressor

I have not insulted people to such a degree while you obviously have a propensity for "what a douche"

keep on talking Nico while the empire you have built upon war declarations during players vacations and dboyds air defense comes crumbling down

I am the aggressor? LOL! That's why you decced me?? Hahaha! And we are talking about war aggressors. And really? Then I guess calling jan a asshat isn't a insult? A bitch isn't a insult? I guess your mother didn't teach you right :/. What names did Jan call you for you to call her names? And I see no war decs lol. I get emailed every time I do. That's how I found out about your war dec

ok, Nico, we've been through this before, just scroll up to count the number of names she's listed, and each time, she wasn't going to come back. Have you heard of the story of the "Little Boy that cries wolf," ??

not to mention, i have more loyalty, and respect for some one that can, and will master every aspect of the game, as opposed to just trying to master the political/social end. If i was in trouble, i'd rather have Aries at my back, than Jan. I'm sorry, truly. I like Jan on a personal level, she knows me better than 98% of the people in sim country. And as such, she knows that i call a spade, a spade, as the saying goes.

and here's a question, why does this keep on happening to Jan? i think thats the mystery you should work on solving.

Yeah, that is the mystery, Josias. That question, however, should be asked of you and the others in this community. Jan has been nothing but a good friend to me and has done everything for me as a friend and as a game mate. I don't think sh is too far off in how game allies and federation members should be. What I feel sorry the most for Jan is she really cared about many of you on a personal level, and yet all of you have played her to the point of leaving for good. I still say it is a sad day for Simcountry. She brought many laughs and a lot of fun to this game for me and I am sure others.

Jan never pretended to be anything more than a social player. She really did care about the people here. There are just some people that no matter what just can't be cared about. They would sell out a friend over a game. So sad.,

I have told her what you said Josias. Her reply was for me to just drop it and let it go. It doesn't matter any more. I don't want to drop it. I think all of you suck. I will say it again, the game has lost something really special.

yes you are the aggressor nico

your declarations in recent memory are as follows

rob Goddard's slave

me

EHK and 4 of her slaves

benino and his slave

honeybadgers empire

all of this after multiple declarations of peace including one in the middle of our war which you used to distract me and paint my country

mine include one declaration on a slave of yours which came after your first declaration on rob Goddard


I make a point to keep insulting to a minimum that's all I can do I'm not perfect but neither are you so quit being self righteous

if you continue to prance around WG degrading people and declaring yourself the hier to Jan's throne of purity all the while tormenting long time players and newbs alike expect opposition from me

aww, now its more clear. people that where once picked on, have gained enough support to stand up for themselves. one of those pendulum type things.

it stinks, but jeese, if their where no loosers, their'd be no winners. and if the same people win, over and over, then the game gets stale.

Nico, it sounds like you just weren't prepaired to fight some that could fight back. and are offended that you can't just pick on some one, over and over.

lol, how funny

Been quietly reading the thread and staying away but I feel some fact clarifications are needed.

Jan made the latest decision to leave the game before I made the decision to come to WG. Like her latest comments to Josias, I got the "well, this is just one more reason" line. There can be no betrayal/treason or the like on my part both since my understanding is she was leaving the game and I have never been a member of her fed (though, as with other feds, I assisted her fed with advice and guides).

As to her being a Hydra supporter, why wouldn't she? I was doing everything she would want me to. I have repeatedly defeated her primary game adversary who was threatening and attacking her fed members. She appreciated I created a balance to power then. As Josias said, it isn't fun when all the powerful players band together for good or ill.

As for Nico being in Hydra on a different world , no offense, but any player with a pulse gets an invite to Hydra on FB. Funny thing is an aggressive move by Nico almost got Jan involved in a war with the entire Hydra fed there in the last month.

As for my coming to WG, my intention is to assist with the creation of a fed to rival with BME. I don't intend to take a lead role militarily, as I think this would be too easy, but we will see and Nico's comments are not helping him.

@Johndoe,
Indeed I started the war with Rob. One of the two wars I ever have started on WG. But I did NOT attack you.

Here's a email I received from GM: "Gamemaster
to me
Dec 8, 2013Details
This is an official declaration of war between Respublica Ardglass and Fort Serenity. War will start on 09-09-3164.

The President of Respublica Ardglass."

Still not enough??

"Nico
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 01:34 am
I thought the Union was a peaceful federation, yet it is issuing war decs....this goes against everything Wolfker and others have said about The Union. Wonders if it is ALL lies.

thewhy
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 03:37 am
You have aggressively attacked a friend of mine who happens to be located in my region and i take interest in ongoings in my region.... i do not care to have enemies within fighter range of me... feel free to abandon the country"

Will that do it, John?

The war between EHK and her 3 (not 4) slaves was a war The Union started. They supported you and the war YOU started. If I did NOT declare war on her first, BME would have had to fought a big war. I avoided it. Same with Benino.

The war with Wisco is the SECOND and FINAL war I had started on WG. I was trying to send him a message to leave Aries fed before his empire gets destroyed. He is a good player and deserves better than to be stuck in a fed with John. Whom stated that he was going to start a war with Aries help.

So John, you are telling me it took you several days to realize I took Robs slave?? Don't even start saying you are friends with him John, cause you replied to him with this message:
"thewhy
Friday, November 29, 2013 - 07:45 am
Goddards a prick.... loses his slave country whines and quits... people like him are runing this game"

Also, you later sent this message:

"thewhy
Wednesday, December 4, 2013 - 03:50 am
sad to say it but rob was in my region and i had exchanged messages with him several times offering my friendship.... i even asked him twice to join my fed and if he were in my fed there would have been no way Nico would win that war... he was a decent player but for some reason wanted to be in a fed all by his lonesome... shame dont get to attached to your slaves anyone"

Now does THAT sound like you decced me to protect him? I don't think so!

LOL! Tormenting players??? Really? Thanks for the laugh John!

@Josias, what are you talking about? Lol

@Aries, if you remember correctly, Kevlin was NOT in Hydra when I told Jan to declare war on him. It was only AFTER she decced, that he joined Hydra. And create a fed rival to BME? Really? Is that all you got? So you are telling me, after a player had attacked me, you will help him do it again? Wow. I guess I REALLY misjudged you. And I was willing to help Thewhy if he moved to The Union. I offered to help build up The Union again, but Wolfker said that The Union wasn't much anymore. Asked him if he wanted to merge so I could help them all, he told me that he will talk to his fed. Never got a reply after that. So it's not like I destroyed a fed and didn't offer help. I did.

thank you for outlining it so clearly

it is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain who started the wars

" The war with Wisco is the SECOND and FINAL war I had started on WG. I was trying to send him a message to leave Aries fed before his empire gets destroyed. He is a good player and deserves better than to be stuck in a fed with John. Whom stated that he was going to start a war with Aries help."

that's funny you attack someone to save someones empire? how benevolent of you...... it is easy to see how foolish your logic is nico... you're "justifications" for war are poor masks to your true game character which is to simply cause members of the union grief because we rejeceted you from our Federation long long ago

What "wars"? Only 2 I started. Actually I only DECLARED war I didn't FIGHT it. The slave was UNDEFENDED. Jeez. And I'm not even mad at that LOL. I offered you peace before the war started, but Wolfker said no. His loss. All this would not have happened if Wolfker wanted peace. Oh well. Poor Lisbeth.

obviously I didn't declare on you to protect him exactly as he had already quit and his only remaining country was in secured

I sent a message to him asking for an alliance against you in hopes he would come back but he was gone

however you shouldn't make uncalled for declarations and expect that people aren't going to be perturbed by that...

you shouldn't expect to take a county within distance of someone you are unfriendly with and expect that that person isn't going to be prompted to do something.... especially when it is me

I declared a limited war on your slave of about 15 million people and in return you launch a large nuclear campaign and another campaign against my fedmates many of which had absolutely nothing to do with our fight... not to mention your lack of grace a a victor or even worse your false grace you use in order to lull us into a feeling that the war is over

Then why did you dec me, John? Why? And you were in secured at that time and left secured when you decced me. How does this matter to you? And 15 million people? It was over 20M considering I need a minimum of 20M to throw a nuke. And indeed I attacked union members that had nothing to do with us. BUT maybe if you hadn't started the war, this would not have happen and maybe Benino and Lisbeth would still have their countries. And I can say now, that the war against The Union IS over. It's a BME victory.

"however you shouldn't make uncalled for declarations and expect that people aren't going to be perturbed by that...

you shouldn't expect to take a county within distance of someone you are unfriendly with and expect that that person isn't going to be prompted to do something.... especially when it is me"

now I would ask you WHY you decided it was necessary to conquer other players that had nothing to do with our war through devious war tactics but I already know the answer and that is you are still mad the union rejected you from our group due to your prevailing immaturity

perhaps you should wait sometime before you declare victory

Nico, well, i've already gotten more involved than i have info. And for that I'll apologize. I'll point out that I've fought big wars, for the purpose of decentralizing power. Even against people that where friends, in an attempt to balance power. And make the game better for every one.

It was necessary due to the fact that you, John, has declared war on me while you were in The Union. They have supported you. Now THAT is why. But back to my question. Why did you declare war on me?

Josias,
Don't know why you would declare war on me? Bad Meets Ecil offered to help The Union after the war was over. We are not simply about destroying Feds. I wish to have peace on WG.

asking the same question and getting the same answer is no way to argue nico is is frustrating repetitive and makes you look silly..... I would appreciate it if you took the time to read my posts as I do yours here it is one more time..... and to make clear the members of the union which you attacked had nothing to do with our war


"however you shouldn't make uncalled for declarations and expect that people aren't going to be perturbed by that...

you shouldn't expect to take a county within distance of someone you are unfriendly with and expect that that person isn't going to be prompted to do something.... especially when it is me"

But if you read MY response before, you would have knew I answered that.

if you read MY response you would know that my question of why was rhetorical

Well it's kinda hard when you clearly don't say: "the reason I attacked you is..." Instead you just post it making it look like you are posting the quotes without saying why.

I'm not gonna dec you, Nico, or any one else. I'm at WL2, and will be, probably for atleast 2 more RL years, I'll probably never dec another player again on Sim Country. No need to worry about me, that wasn't meant as one of those hidden threat things. I was just saying, i totally get Aries point of view. some one, at some point is gonna have to make some harsh calls, to divide the power structure.

Oh. Sorry Josias. I misread . I don't get his point of view. Why would he help an aggressor? That is my question. And when the guy he is helping, John, openly admitted to have a second round with me. If John wasn't the aggressor and openly admitted that he was going to attack me, then I would have no problem.