War Level Suggestion

So for some time now, I was regretting crossing that WL3 status. I mean I did it a week into playing and since I was there I of course had taken advantage of it. However it didn't take long to find this to be a magical leap in which I didn't truly understand until a couple months into the game.

There really should not be a point of no return like this. Finally that issue has come up. I have a War Dec from a player I should have no chance in defending against. Partially because I've never PVP'd but probably more is that the player is Sweetpea/Psycho Honey/Wendy/Victim herself.

This thread isn't supposed to be some plea or anything. I just find it disturbing that the war levels are placed to defend people, but staying a WL3 instead of climbing the ladder will allow you to decimate anyone WL3-WL5, with increased WL's C3 costs going higher and higher there doesn't seem to be much of a benefit from ascending into the higher war levels, so why not stay WL3?

I think the WL's can't be so voluntary. If you fight enough wars, then you should be forced away from those who haven't. So to get to WL1, you need to win a war. To get to WL2 you need to win enough wars. WL3 I think I did voluntary so I don't know, but it should also be fight enough wars, WL4 fight enough wars...

This is not the ideal solution, but really WL's do little to defend players.

Wow... talk about crying wolf.

No I saw this kind of thing as a possibility. Your reputation is intimidating so... How should I react?

No it isn't. You are totally overreacting. But I like it. I'll play along.

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This action isnt authorised by the NLUO regards steve

Steve I think were gonna see that statement you made alot

What action, and on what planet?

@ Gaz - lol

@ Steve - this situation is on a different world anyways, it shouldn't be regarded as so.

@ Wendy - Don't hijack my thread. The Telos of WL is keep people like you away from people like me, it doesn't do that. WL's piss people off routinely given the forum exchanges, and I think it fails it's purpose. This situation is lame for me, but this thread is for letting Andy know that he should find another way to do things on the war engine. At the very least find some way to exit the War Game with a suitable punishment for doing so that is unexploitable for war players to change their War Level down to take out lesser opponents.

If you want to discuss our direct warring or pre-warring the thread started by Wendy in opposition to Steve in which she charges him with pretty much the exact same thing she's doing here is probably a better place. This is just a suggestion that because of situation figured required a touch more urgency. Because pending the outcome I won't be around very much longer.

its been suggested here and there, that as players fight players, they should go up in levels.

similar to the first few war levels. first c3 puts you at wl1. why can't after take over, say 5 player countries, can't it move you up one level?

ofcourse their should be a limit, but hyper-aggressive players should be forced up to wl6-7 so that the low level war players, are just that, low level, or low agression

but sincerely, drew is right. what the point of WLs when players have to go way up, to be safe? it kinda defeats the purpose.

@ Wendy - Don't hijack my thread. The Telos of WL is keep people like you away from people like me, it doesn't do that. WL's piss people off routinely given the forum exchanges, and I think it fails it's purpose. This situation is lame for me, but this thread is for letting Andy know that he should find another way to do things on the war engine. At the very least find some way to exit the War Game with a suitable punishment for doing so that is unexploitable for war players to change their War Level down to take out lesser opponents.

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Did you really say don't hijack your thread? LMAO wow this guy man. I admire your audacity.

Wow. Now I am going to say that this should have been in the suggestion section of the forum. But I am sure Drew put this in the general forum the same reason why I put my threads in this General section, because everyone will read it.

Funny....

Am I wrong or doesn't your WL automatically increase with the amount of C3s you take. I know you have a choice of going up or not for a few C3s but I thought you went up like it or not after a certain number. From what I see, PvP is always preceded by the taking of C3s.

WLs are meant to be a reflection of your warring ability aren't they?

Secretary Ryan is a tough, stand up person. I admire that. Cheers Mr. Secretary.


P.S. I am sure if you know the guy, it was halfway sarcastic when he said that. I said HALFWAY.. lol...

Right on Hezekiah.

And Drew, I never exploited my war level to come down. Your pals JackSeptic and Super actually petitioned Andy to implement a mechanism that would allow players to do exactly that. You are in a fed with Jack, I find that contradiction out of this world, from GR to LU and back again. Wowsers.

@crafty - No it doesn't it brings you to WL3, but not any higher

I don't think they should be allowed that ability either, I don't know exactly what they should do about it. But i got to WL3 really quick, and i have no way to return

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You don't have to go up, you chose to. At some point, we as players need to be responsible for our actions and especially the choices we make. I have had to face the consequence of every choice I made and I started this game without war Levels. I came in when n00b bashing was the thing to do, but I never cried to the gm for anything. I just played the game. And never started over once, nor cried for them to change each and every little thing to suit my every whim.

It is amazing to see Orbiter out here again, playing the sweetheart, like he wasn't a part of that super raid on WG that exploited the newly implemented space game to drop armies from the sky with no warning on a fed of unsuspecting n00bs...all while declining a fair 5 vs 5 match to settle the score. no, they preferred raiding the n00bs, now he suddenly has a conscious. R

Remember that poop, and never stinking analogy form our earlier conversation, here it is again front and center.

Now /enter the saint. What other wisdom will you share with us with your tender sincerity in mind. Please, do share, don't be shy now.

As crafty put it WL's are to protect the noob you could have done this in my first month of playing

Ignoring the fact that I'd rather there not be war levels. I think war levels should have been, if anything, a dynamic value based on absolute factors such as total population of the empire and total military indexes of the empire that can move up or down based on capability to fight.

Like for example:

E = Empire Population
D = Sum of Defensive Index in all countries
O = Sum of Offensive Index in all countries

War Level = SQRT(((E / 1,000,000) + D + O)/100)

This is just an example.

should have, could have, would have.
War levels should stay exactly the way they are now.
Changing them has never solved anything.

They always want more, you always want more. It is all stupid and we end up at the same result.

Read.

All games, all governments, all businesses, everywhere where there is someone in charge, there are people making suggestions on ways they think the 'game' could be run better. Who can honestly say they didn't change the rules or make rules up when playing Monopoly or Scrabble. This is generally encouraged by most bosses, leaders whatever.

This is not the only online game I have played and there has always been player feedback, most of it crap, a little of it good, but it is always encouraged.

Why should Simcountry be any different?

This isn't feedback.
Drew, (in a fed with Keto, JackSeptic and Serpent I believe on GR) wanted to nuke some guy over a share transaction. boasting about it all night in chat, getting all the pointers from his allies. It was great.

Drew did something very similar to me a while back and I let it go. I felt like he was about to be an ass because of the backup he has, so I declared war on him. Suddenly he is a victim.

This is all a show, I decd him with a single c3, he has 9 countries. Comon. War levels need to be changed for this?

Tweedle1, Tweedle2, and Tweedle3 all parroting each other like the other unrelated threads. Some coincidence huh?

I remain vigilant that this suggestion is not to gather sympathy, but it is a suggestion based on a circumstance that I am currently undergoing. Your ability to war me, your ability to use the space station to pull in your army from other worlds is a situation that I could not overcome if you decided to put the effort in. Because you have the ability to do so if you really wanted to, it completely trumps the validity of War Levels. If this can be prevented in a way that seems like it will actually prevent this from happening to others I'm going to support it. If Andy gets to it submits a valid suggestion to the devs and the change it will be way too late for me anyways. This situation is obviously a real situation. IF you tried in this war, war levels do not matter one bit.