What the smeg has happened to this game? (Golden Rainbow)

When i used to play ages ago, you advertised that you had corps for sale and CEOs snapped them up. I advertised a couple of days ago that i had corps for sale in Caldera on GR...not one has been purchased.

Ive also noticed a distinct lack of activity on the forums. Wheres all the smack talk and role playing that used to go on???

It seems that people are now content to sit in their 2-3 country empires and not war. I mean, most of the old feds are gone such as UC, LDI and SNA with VS a shadow of its former self and no one has filled that power vacum as far as i can tell. Its now just a load of smaller more economicly minded feds. Come on folks...half the fun of this game is sitting in a major fed and smack talking the opposition on the forums!

When was the last major inter world war? I bet youre going back a good couple of years...

So, whats happened?

War levels happened Stuart.

And excessive multi-ing. And people getting banned from forums for...well...contraversial comments. And a large influx of new free members, not saying that's a bad thing, but they have no sense of what the game was like and they are un-touchable/teachable. And I'll shut up before I'm banned again.

Well, I was going to become a premium member on monday, but im really having second thoughts now.

Tom, if youre reading this - you need to get rid of war levels. It has made the game one of simple economics instead of one of war. The game is not what it used to be and that must be evident by the number of free players you have. Cant you do something to encourage warring?

At the moment, im a free member and went to invade my 2nd C3 today - I couldnt as i can only have two countries in my empire without becoming a premium member. Both of my countries are virtually as safe as houses too. Surely theres a better way to get people to become premium members? How about instead of all these limits, you gave premium members something like free and permanent cash or pop boosters?

While im at it, we need more CEOs, or at least more active ones. How about allowing whole enterprises to be owned by countries with limitations of % of corps and/or stock that can be owned in a single country and/or empire?

How about giving an incentive for PvP warfare? Not too sure what you could do to do that, but im sure theres something....

Hell...make C3s profitable to raid again too and allow any empires 2nd country to be attacked, premium or otherwise. If you have only one country, you recieve a score drop. Each country after the third gives a score boost.

And more than anything, the forums need to become active again. Hold comps that get people doing something in game such as attacking a major C3 country with maxed out defences etc which you edit in. Reward the person that claims victory a load of GC or something. At least that would attract more players to the forums. You could have several of those countries on one world even.....

As it stands, i dont believe the game is worth paying for - there are just too many limitations and the game is more about econ than anything else. The fun of the game used to be the war side of it. Thats now virtually all gone as free players sit safely in their econ countries and dont interact with others.

If anyone thinks im being over the top here, i invite you all to take a look at any world forum section, scroll all the way to the bottom then read up. Read 20-30 posts. Then scroll to the top and read 20-30 posts. You will see the differences straight away....

£10 says nothing will change.

The past was great, the present is dull, the future will be *enter own comment here*

After being away from this game for 7 years I returned with disappointment too (still enjoying the game mind you and i'll continue to play and pay)

PVP warfare is important. It used to be a lot of fun when it came to deplomacy and warring federations.

I've now started to explore space and the game has become all about making an extra buck and less about world domination etc. Less fun and player interaction, but it suits me at the present as i've been busy with work

What about keeping secure country mode for those that want/need it, but having a greater incentive to remove it?

SimCountry needs a reboot.

i started 2years back b4 war levels and space and it was Great cant say the same now

A lot of us have voiced our opinions on the war levels Stuart, but the game has gone the way of the ecomites.

Now, they can all hide behind war levels, run their traps, and nothing can be done to them.

By the way, I do enjoy the history and nostalgia you have brought to the forum in the last week or so. Hope to see you stick around for a while.

The last major war was on White Giant in August of 2010.

...and that war gave birth to War Levels

SC was ruined by an excessive focus on "assets."

This focus was created almost entirely by W3C's (bad) design decisions.

The fix is more complicated than just "remove war levels" and involves a serious change in direction.

I have to agree. I myself use to play a long time ago, and I fondly remember the worry of invasion that made the game fun. Now I'm not in secure mode and nobody hasn't even made even a veiled threat against me.

Players make a choice and they won't go to war if they don't want to.

Once I'm happy with my economic development, I'll be happy to engage in "agreed" wars.

We have so many unnatural things in this game.

Why not put a war continent on each world? There all players will be fair game for war. All players on the continent are at war level 3+ and all players on the continent understand the risks/rewards of war. WP or secure mode is not an option on the war continent. Only the standard blackout period applies. The same player may have a mix of countries on or off the war continent.

It would cost a booster to move your country on/off the war continent. One coin to move your country to any available slot or 5 coins to move to a specific slot. The slots are held by c3's. Countries at war on the war continent can't move off the continent.

Countries off the war continent can only war with c3's. No player wars allowed off the continent and countries off the war continent can't provide air defense.

The war continent idea is something the gamemaster programmers can do.

Cheers,

Maestro

what do you do with all the existing players
do we use a big continent or a little continent like mine
I like the war level addition

I thought you could all have unlimited war on FB. What's wrong with setting up shop there and hashing it out? Why this need to force everyone to play the war game?

*sigh* maybe im just an old-fashion gamer here.

Matt,

Players that want the war option move to the war continent. They must be at war level 3 to do this.

Want total war? go to Fearless Blue, if your not happy with war on Fearless Blue then recommend changes specifically for that world. If your upset that war isn't common on the peaceful planets, stop complaining those planets are not meant for PvP war. PvP war is largely reserved for Fearless Blue.

See? Like I said, mouthy players who hide behind war levels. No respect for anyone in the game. The need for diplomacy, and hence the community has gone.

And I do wish people who have NO frigging idea of what the game can be like as it was in its hay-day, who have never even had a serious arguement, let alone a war, would shut the h up about how it should be for other players who do know.

Diplomacy = community = a good spirit, lively forums, banter, flaming matches, and even war for those that chose to go that far. There was many an econ player before who didnt suffer in the hands of war players because they made friends and allies. It is you isolated bean counters that have destroyed the game.

Sure, i'll go on FB. I'll set up shop with loads of defensive weapons and offensive. Then i'll buy some strat weapons and stack them up. I'll have a nice tidy profit of 30b per month.

Then, out of nowhere:-

The 'pros' will come with 10x the military assets and take it all from me like taking candy from a baby. Then laugh it off in chat or on the forum saying 'I'm the toughest on FB cause i just beat the hell out of so-n-so'.

I'm not tempted to go to FB as you'll just get the 'top' players outdoing you in every way possible.

If for example:-

The federation - The Protectorate or The Sovient Federation (on KB, sorry i don't know many others on any other worlds) all set up shop on FB at the same time and aided one another from the start, i think it would be a very interesting experiment (none of them are my own fed). You'd have a large amount of players, some experienced in war, some in eco etc etc all working together to achieve the top rank. Each of them knowing, they could get attacked instantaneously by multiple players in the same period of time.

You'd finally have, a war game, and well let's face it, you'd be excited, assertive, and above all, enjoying yourself. Not to mention FB would become the next Star in our solar system.

"Want total war? go to Fearless Blue, if your not happy with war on Fearless Blue then recommend changes specifically for that world."

Well said. What this tiny minority of "war players" who are so vocal in this forum really want is too be able to rape and pillage new players and econ players.

That's why they do not war with each other on FB.

@kolenski

Dude, im new. Well, sort of. I used to be here ages ago when simcountry.com was a game where it took more than just econ to make your game.

@Tomfitzpatrick

Same reply to you dude. However, as crafty said - this game was far more interesting when you had to engage in diplomacy and help your fed in defence or attacks on other feds.

As far as i can see, i may as well be playing Farmville if all im interested in is a money making game and to make friends. That isnt what this game is all about, historically at least. Diplomacy was an interesting part of the game, admitttidley, whenever i played diplomat - it was always with a few nukes up my sleeve and one of the strongest feds in the game at my command. But, the premise is still the same no matter how large your empire or fed is.

The player community was a lot more active. For instance, you would log on to the forums to see 20+ new threads that were all interesting reading. Since ive been back, i think ive seen a total of about 15 new threads with some n00b starting a load of duplicates and me starting 3-4. The community is, or at least was, an important part of this game. It made the game more fun. You made friends when you had to help defend each other, you made enemies on the forums and took it to war. Still, when i left, my enemies and i were civil - there was mutual respect. Now all I see are people who are bothered ith how much cash they have. War made the community, and the community is what is missing now. No community equals no fun in my opinion.

I mean, not very realistic either is it?

Bush: Oi Saddam, get rid of those WMDs or else..
Saddam: You cant hurt me lololol
Bush: Why?
Saddam: Im econ and in secured mode muwhahaha
Bush: Damn it. Youre a coward Saddam
Saddam: Muwhahaha, im gonna go check my farm now lolol

Seriously, being in a non secured country doesnt automaticaly mean war anyway. If one player or fed got too tough, especially with newbies - the community would sort them out and you would see load of decs going in. You would more often than not get your property back from the liberator for a nominal fee of 15gc.

Anyway, i doubt im going to last long here this time around. As i said, i may as well play Facebook games if there isnt any risk at all. Waking up and logging on to see if your empire was still there was one of the biggest thrills going. Its that kind of thing that made the game exciting - now its just a mre in depth and text based version of Farmville.

+1

I agree with most posts on this forum. I might not have been around pre-War Levels, but by the sounds of it, it was a great and fun game. I myslef have been getting tired of this all-econ game, and have found some thrill out of c3 raiding, yet on KB, my home world, there is barely any action. Sure, there is some heated debate between some feds and players, but that won't result in anything.

HERES AN IDEA: Have a 'Beginner World' where all new players go to get set up- have war levels so new players aren't raided. Then, when players feel like they can do it, use the Space Program to move to another world where war is easier to come by...
How about it?