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State corps: how good are you at it?

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Lorelei
11 Oct 2012 01:47 Link
It's okay, Andrew. I knew this was probably the case, but like I said sometimes being clear and concise can come across that way and seem cold. I like warm and fuzzy. :-) But thank you for your words. I hope I didn't offend you, it wasn't my intention to do so.

Please ban Crafty! He's mean to me. I'm sure there is a Simcountry rule somewhere that states Do Not Be Mean to Lorelei. :P

Lastly, thank you for your time and commitment to the game. And if you ever need suggestions on who to ban, just give me a shout. I have a list for that too!!!! ha ha ha j/k
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Andy
11 Oct 2012 08:41 Link
I think I should ban both of you.
I think of it every day.
one day I decide to ban
the next day I decide not to.
today is your good day.
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Unholy Hellraiser
11 Oct 2012 09:32 Link
Now i know. The rules still do apply, thank you. I'll keep my slate clean from now on and all possible.

Thanks.
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Drew
11 Oct 2012 09:50 Link
Well now I have multiple corps making well over a billion brocolli, I'm still not happy about it but its the way the cookie crumbles I guess.
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Drew
11 Oct 2012 10:10 Link
Oh and mizore the contributions from the public effect much more then pension or IF funds, the biggest and most important are the income tax, contributions to health and education.

But on Andy's note of them not needing to pay any interest is a little peculiar. If they don't that is absolutely zero purpose. The only disbursement anyone gets is the tiny amount they get from IF's is through the investment. If it didn't exist then all sense of profit would be redistributing back into a non-functioning IF. So everytime that is lowered you are shrinking the use of IF's farther and farther. This is contridicting to all your other efforts to make them useful. I was looking forward to IF improvements since I started but now they don't even matter, like at all! In fact as the game made me destroy my strategy I had to either change corporate tax rate or profit transfer, and though I'm against both of those things moreso corporate tax I couldn't justify handing profits over to the IF. Fundamentally flawed game mechanics on this one.

I also don't fully agree with the concept of a small market either. When you consider there is exactly 0 real life companies with a market value of 1T dollars, and exactly 0 companies with a market value anywhere near 1T dollars while SC has tons of them and are triple that. Small market? That's confusing
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Mizore
11 Oct 2012 10:57 Link
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Oh and mizore the contributions from the public effect much more then pension or IF funds, the biggest and most important are the income tax, contributions to health and education.<!-/Quote-!>


-_- I know that. I was illustrating why IFs aren't all that relevant in determining salaries anymore... I had already granted that tax/health/edu contributions were the big consideration (and even implied that these contributions were the core of what made the IF contributions eventually pay off).

For the other part of your post, there is little point in arguing. Andy laid it out: they don't intend the IF to be used as a mechanism for improving worker income anymore and as a result they are removing the functionality that allows this. Given what I've seen, they have for sure already reduced the IF interest rate from 0.48% to 0.04% and may have reduced contributions to the IF.

The whole thing is probably in response to that nearly $1Q IF on LU and other similar funds.
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Mizore
11 Oct 2012 12:06 Link
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So everytime that is lowered you are shrinking the abuse of IF's farther and farther.<!-/Quote-!>


Fixed. Consider the management's perspective, Drew.
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sbroccoli
11 Oct 2012 14:10 Link
But Drew, you run an enterprise, right? Not a nation?
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Unholy Hellraiser
11 Oct 2012 14:27 Link
why the hell did i say that... lol, no one gives a f.u.c.k about it. why do i even respond. perhaps Andy should ban me instead.
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Lorelei
11 Oct 2012 15:42 Link
Andrew!!!! Well I'm glad today is my good day! :P But, if you ban me that is in direct violation of Simcountry Rule 1.A.A.1 which clearly states, under no circumstances is anyone in Simcountry to be mean to Lorelei. ha ha ha

Happy Weekend and get some rest, you will need it next week to keep me in line in da forums! Oh and Crafty too. He's way "badder" than I!!! :P
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Lorelei
11 Oct 2012 15:43 Link
*Smacks Crafty

It' your fault, old man! You gettin' me in trouble. SCOWL!!! You just wait!
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Lorelei
11 Oct 2012 17:01 Link
@ Unholy Hellraiser......... maybe the devil made you do it as to your question "why the hell did i say that". ha ha ha ha

I care what you say. You want me to throw a shoe at you, I will. It's way better than a banning! :P
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Unholy Hellraiser
12 Oct 2012 04:45 Link
Yes please, throw me one! It needs a good bonk in the head.
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Drew
12 Oct 2012 05:37 Link
I run both brocolli, I needed it to progress my game level.
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sbroccoli
12 Oct 2012 09:24 Link
So you can in fact run a nations state corporations with a steady profit of 2B?

Please tell more about the circumstances and settings.
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Lorelei
12 Oct 2012 16:46 Link
*throws a shoe at Hellboy!!! THUNK!!!! There ya go! :-)
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Drew
12 Oct 2012 19:44 Link
Well I have closer to 1.5 not two. Scarlet I mean Mizore made an awesome graph to help you make 2B.

But if you want to make some cash. Build a Air Transport corp, sell shares down to 24.99. Build country welfare to 125. Contract out Aircraft Fuel, Electric Power, FMU's, Luxury Goods, HHP's at Q120. Change all else to 200~ you may have to tinker it after. Math supports 230 but that seems too high. Run salaries in the 500 range and Boom! 1.5B easy as pie.
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sbroccoli
12 Oct 2012 20:43 Link
Nice to know. Too bad i cant build half of those corporations