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The New Little Upsilon Order: Fact vs. Fiction

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Crafty
18 Dec 2012 21:40 Link
Maybe we are Hez. Just dont judge others as aggressive when they too are defending their sovereign rights. Everyone else has a right to exist and exercise their own policies as they please too.

I'm not starting arguing again. I've used up my words.
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King Hezekiah II
18 Dec 2012 22:32 Link
Have we ever made any aggressive moves at all with out someone provoking it? Yes or no. I know you used up your words, so maybe you can just answer yes or no to that question.
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Lord Lee
19 Dec 2012 02:03 Link
I'm sick of reading misinformation about the NLUO government. The NLUO government is basically like a democratic Co-operative government and nothing like a dictatorship!

We are setting up a democratic government that everyone can participate in.

At the moment Simcountry lacks a political and diplomatic aspect. The NLUO government are only trying to fulfill this void.

If we work together we can achieve much more.


Lord Lee
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Orbiter
19 Dec 2012 02:09 Link
But thats not what appears to be happening?

It is an organization, that its own leaders threaten entire feds, and wantonly abandon its own treaties!

These are the things of concern from those from with out!!!

and they are legit gripes!
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Orbiter
19 Dec 2012 02:13 Link
lord lee, i did not mean that as a bite, i'm just glad i have some one over their to talk to, that'll make since.

seriously, if you want to be a peaceful, and freindly organization, i'll leave you alone.

but the actions of the leadership, so far, have been atrocious!
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Lord Lee
19 Dec 2012 02:22 Link
Orbiter why don't you get involved in the government? We will have democratic elections and there are diplomatic means of working out disagreements. "It is an organization, that its own leaders threaten entire feds, and wantonly abandon its own treaties!" This statement is misleading for the reader! Can you be more specific? i.e. what are the facts?


Lord Lee
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Orbiter
19 Dec 2012 02:24 Link
seriously? this is too exhausting! nvm
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Lord Lee
19 Dec 2012 02:32 Link
I never knew substantiating the truth could be that exhausting.
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Lord Lee
19 Dec 2012 02:35 Link
Especially for a olympiad. LOL.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 05:00 Link
Cheers to that Secretary King Lord Lee!!
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SweetPea
19 Dec 2012 05:49 Link
The True Potential of the NLUO has been realized in many ways. It has brought together me with my (former)enemies in a way no one in the game has ever been able to.

Just a few weeks ago, I was locked in a spiraling war against Steven Ryan. Lord Lee and I have had a few death matches and been opposing members of two superfeds for as long as I have played the game. Even Jack, and I were members of the NLUO on the same side following months of constant military conflict. I had allowed our common membership in the NLUO to take precedence when Jack took aggressive positions around my nations, and normally I would have sent out blanket declarations destroying as much as I possibly could to reverse the action. We would still be common members in this organization if Hydra numbskulls wouldn't have threatened him militarily and basically punked him out of the NLUO

There have been monumental attempts, to broker peace between the parties mention here and myself. Not The UC, not Allied Forces, Not GREF, and many other player and organizational efforts have been able to unite my enemies and I.

If the NLUO has accomplished something so remarkable that has been attempted repeatedly for years in such a little time; the true power, potential, and positivity of the NLUO cannot be denied.

And all these notions and propaganda about the NLUO being put out by Hydra and their old methodology of player interaction need to be flushed down the toilet, because that is the only place where their ideas have merit and use.

Now counter that bit of reality Orbiter, CC, Scerlet, and anyone else pumping nonsense about this New idea King has gifted our game with. Then reflect on what little you all have been adding to the game that gives you the merit to slander the thing altogether.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 06:00 Link
Preach Sister!!!! Opps did I say that out loud... (Embarrassed)
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SweetPea
19 Dec 2012 06:04 Link
lol.
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Crafty
19 Dec 2012 12:14 Link
Really Orbiter, its too tiring.

The stuff said against NLUO amounts to complaints about hezzies badly worded posts. His posts effectively claimed authorities over players that he had no right to claim authorities over. I'm sue it wasnt intentionally designed to come across as such. Thats all it started with, nothing more, nothing less.

But then, when some players complained, Wendy decided it would be a good idea to champion his cause and went all out to accuse people of aggression, picking on him, bullying etc, the normal Wendy trolls. If she hadnt done as such, then I feel sure Hezz, the NLUO and the non aligned would not have gone down this path at all. In fact, josias tried to restore this co-existance but Wendy wont let that happen. Its what Wendy wants, conflict, slagging matches, smack talk.

So this is where it has got to. Hez, you really should be embarrassed. I am embarrassed for you when I read you cheerleading Wendy like some love sick puppy dog. If you were to do your own thing in your way Hezz, without the shit stirring of others, than there would be NO conflict between NLUO and anyone. That would be great, because like I have posted before and as has Lord Lee above, fundementally the idea of a more interactive LU is a great idea.

I hope Scarlet and Josias back this up and then you Hezz will realise which direction the troubles are actually coming from. I can see you are a religious peace wanting person, so see if you cant bring NLUO into the position you originally intended it to be in.
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Laguna
19 Dec 2012 16:05 Link
This is just me talking, but sometimes I get the feeling you people are just bitching because you feel like bitching. Just saying.
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SweetPea
19 Dec 2012 16:59 Link
I forgot how it was all my fault. Silly me. I guess i started defending Hez, because everything was peachy and creamy.

Agree Laguna.

And CC, I got involved to defend Hez after multiple players started in on him the same way it happened in the past, not the other way around. That is what I do, no apologies offered there.
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SweetPea
19 Dec 2012 17:06 Link
It is crazy how the whole post and the information I shared in it was totally disregarded by Crafty's last post.

I wish they(Hydra) could at least go positive and move to neutral at some point so this fiasco can end.

I am at peace with a few enemies that, if it were not for the NLUO, would have been impossible to achieve peace with.

I would like to offer Jack a real chance at stepping out of the shadow of someone who helped him in the game and show his own growth because it is a long time since you started playing this game, it is time to start making your own footprint.

I want to offer a hand and invite you to come back to participating in the NLUO. You CHOSE the NLUO. Don't allow people to manipulate your decision. I can see how it was an us or them proposition, but really, they forced you to chose after you already made your choice. The NLUO is where you belong, here you can make a difference, with them you can only follow, but never lead. You've gone as far as you can in their army. But the choice is ultimately yours.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 19:06 Link
Well said Ma'dam Secretary I agree 100%. I think you are an expansionist at heart, maybe a very moderate left leaning Isolationist. Good words.
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SweetPea
19 Dec 2012 20:01 Link
Thanks King :)
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 21:27 Link
Pleasure's all mine Ma'dam Secretary.
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King Hezekiah II
19 Dec 2012 22:12 Link
lol
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Laguna
20 Dec 2012 00:34 Link
You just ruined the mood now, Serpent! Hezekiah was going to ask Wendy out in the next post. A promising afternoon totally ruined, Serpent.
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King Hezekiah II
20 Dec 2012 01:03 Link
2 words: GOOD GRIEF
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Jiang Hu Warrior
20 Dec 2012 01:04 Link
im still waiting for facts vs fiction as this nluo is concearned, as it is times running out where very near the end of days , less than 46 hours left to dis.............