Desireless (Kebir Blue)

Going green will no longer cut it. The only chance our future has to live a life that we take for granted is for all of us to sacrifice our desire for consumption and replace it with a desire to make sure our future can have what we have. Life on Earth.

And if any of you are still prepared to argue that man has nothing to do with the changes of global temperature, which in turn is killing Gaia. I will make you pay in Gold coins.
The time has passed for talk. Infact the time for talk passed 200 years ago when Darwin first warned of the effects of us thinking we are special.
Now is the time to act.
Pain will come to all who act.
Hell will come to those who don't.

Remember. In 50 years time your grandchildren will ask you what you did to save the Gaia.
Now is your time to make sure you can answer then with pride.

Peace&Hardcore................Nix001
MNA

I think we should leave Earth and push out into space.

Aliens can come and help, Don't forget Aliens.

mass eugenics/population control ftw!


(no, don't read into that too much, it was a facetious comment)

Help us... its a rampant tree hugger Are you Owl Gore in disguise?

Nix it will take more then 50 years for us to get fucked by the planet, 50 years will probably be the turning point though, as it will actually be a crisis.

Oh my GOSH !!!

This has been going on for approx 14B years, please get over it.

Nix on KB = swag

Man is a selfish creature. The world envys the material wealth of the west and aims to acquire the same status. This the world cannot support. But alas mans greed outways mans commmon sense. Result gloom and doom.Give up, embrace the pollution and thank your lucky stars we will be dead and buried by the time the s$%t hits the fan.

mmmm swag

All ready to be transfered into Mother Natures Army.

Crafty.
I take it you are still prepared to argue that man has nothing to do with the changes of global temperature, which in turn is killing Gaia?
Fine. Get your army ready.
My neices and nephews need me to defeat your ignorance and influence.
I will declare in 77hrs.
Unless you wish to change your statement. I know how easy it is to write something that you dont truly believe.

I'm not sure if this is a troll topic, however, no matter if warming up of our planet we register is part of some greater cycle or if humans are the only culprit, we cannot deny that for the first time in human history global population is faced with challenges caused by ourselves.

It's not that long ago when drinking water from a stream was common, when cutting a tree for fire wood had no significance to anything, or when killing a buffalo had no effect on the count of the heard.

This is no longer true. This has changed in the last century and we have to deal with it, one way or the other, whether we like it or not.

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Tragedy of the commons

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The metaphor illustrates the argument that free access and unrestricted demand for a finite resource ultimately dooms the resource through over-exploitation. This occurs because the benefits of exploitation accrue to individuals or groups, each of whom is motivated to maximize use of the resource to the point in which they become reliant on it, while the costs of the exploitation are borne by all those to whom the resource is available (which may be a wider class of individuals than those who are exploiting it). This, in turn, causes demand for the resource to increase, which causes the problem to snowball to the point that the resource is exhausted. The rate at which exhaustion of the resource is realized depends primarily on three factors: the number of users wanting to consume the commons, the consumptiveness of their uses, and the relative robustness of the commons

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
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Sure we can just say .. Fuck it! Carpe diem! Survival of the fittest FTW!

I know I can as I do not have kids, nor any belief which would prevent me from doing so, however, I am not sure such approach is wise for those who have either one to answer to.

If you haven't seen or heard of the movie "The Happening" then it's relevant to this.
It shows that man-kind are hurting nature and near destroying it. The release of a toxin by the surrounding plant life in an evolutionary last-ditch attempt to protect themselves from the predator that endangers them the most- man, Mother natures responds.
It's possibly a Relatance to Green House effect, I guess.

An honest question, tuco, specially given the blockhead character.

The Happening was a fictional movie and a poor one at that. To use it as science fact is simply environmental whackoism taken to a brand new level

Hehe, It could happen.

The world has got by without ice caps before, it will do so again. Life will also survive. History is littered with mass extinction events.

Survival of the most fit, as always.

Humans are not killing Earth. We're putting our own survival at risk, at best. At worst, we're going to take a few other species with us too.

But that's the way nature works. To suggest that human civilisation is not a part of the natural system is idiocy, and tree-hugging blindness.

Not to mention the fact tht the Earth is curently progressing not only forwards out of an ice age, but also an unusually stable few milennia of weather should also be taken into account.

Acid rain, ozone holes, climate change...

This bandwagon is full, please catch another Nix.

The thing that a lot of people cannot comprehend is that Mother Nature doesn't have a bullet with your name on it, she has millions of bullets inscribed with 'to whom it may concern

gotta love those brave and bold who subscribe, by their words, to the .. let the invisible hand, the forces of nature, to do what it does, because there is no point to restrain our behavior .. and when they get shot for $20 by homeless crack addict, when their kids get asthma because of pollution, when someone close to them gets ran over by a car, when someone shits in their own garden they .. cry. cry or get angry or ask why oh why?

coz you are stupid.

Homeless crack addicts... Curse you, global warming!

why global warming?

its the so called philosophy of the survival of the fittest.

why should i care if someone loses her/his job or house? why should i care if someone has access to education or health care?

well, to prevent or discourage that someone from becoming a crack addict who will shoot me for $20.

but perhaps not, perhaps i will take my chances. yes its my right.

reminds me i should buy a big gun ..

and a L 4 vest.

It's that kind of attitude Miles which is putting Life on Earth at risk.
This is not a game of risk that can be re-started and it's not something that can be fix when it's broken.
We have one chance to ensure the survival of life on Earth. And that chance is now.
You are risking my nieces and nephews lives. And I will not tolerate it.
This thread is not here to discuss the issue. It is here for me to find people who disagree that man is killing Giai so I can make them pay in Gold coins for the damage their influence is having on other people.


Stalin. To me yours words are on the borderline of making people think negatively towards environmentalisum. I cannot judge if your my enemy. So if you are, pease make it clearer for me. Thanks.

i would agree that its hard to distinguish if one's interest or sympathy for environmentalism is genuine or if one follows a trend, however, if something becomes global trend, an issue people all around the world can relate to or are concerned with, then to me its indication that theres something, some truth, about it.

on the other hand if something is a trend, then certain people or interest groups will try to use people subscribing to it for their own goals, and personally i get alerted by such efforts.

its not possible to force anyone to anything. at least not in the long term be it in the name of whatever. the only way i see is .. education.

its my belief people have right to be self-destructive, but there is a difference between being conscious about it and being ignorant.

well nix looks like your time is up you decing or what?