New updates (Little Upsilon)

so what you all think?

I hate them all

lol

Like two players can't attack a c3 together. That sucks. Ironically, I was going to do just that...

sorry Tom, you waited too long buddy.

How does reducing the military unit size make war cheaper, or require less weapons? Doesn't that just mean we'll have to make more units to maintain current defenses/offenses?

i'm with wendy on this one, lol

and just because i feel like it

iN siX mOnthS or lesS, tHe faLl of the sim CountRy gIants wiLl fall!

in what way does reducing the military unit size change things. Forgive my naivety!

The explanation given by the administrators wasn't all that clear!

I fought a couple c3 wars and it will save money, so its a good thing, For example, the wl7 garrisons and ints wings are also lower. It takes less bombers now to take a c3. Like, instead of using 1000 bombers, 900 will now do the same thing.

/me gets mah hopes up

Less bombs, too?

Actualy, apon further inspection my garrisons have droped also, example, Garrison blueprint calls for 802 weapons. deployed weapons at 100% for cities is 722. Why lower the amount of weapons in the garrison when they dont exceed the max number of weapons( which is now 1611)? Even after redeploying, it pretty much says it already has 100%(722 weapons) of the blurprint "Cities" when in fact 100% of the "Cities" blueprint has 802.

Just to clarify. Reductions in military unit size are a part of this change. We are slowly reducing all figures in simcountry down to more realistic numbers.

This change will take affect over the coming months and should not negatively impact anyone's potential to wage war.

We do intend on bringing back the ability to attack c3's together but while we are working on a better way to achieve "Co-op c3 wars" we have decided to block it for now.

I guess Military uints means garrisons are smaller too.
For a real war, this means many more clicks as there will be many more units to have the same defense. I hate the changes too. Why can't we decide what the size of the units should be?

If we were to half the size of the units, that would be compensated by doubling their effectiveness in an engagement.

In essence nothing should change. except the number of weapons per unit.

Jonni thanks for the fast reply.

A few things i(most) people talk about is the lack of communication from the GM. It be nice if you mentioned your plans(like this last update) so we can discuss and let you know if its the right move.

I don't know if you know but it easily costs 1T + just to get your starting econ off the ground. The extra money is nice because a lot of news use the remaining 4T for continued buildup of index's (They do buy population which means more index's). Also they used it for corps(100B a corp). Some might use it to expand there empire, Some use it for loans. But 5T was a nice number.

Also when you stop people from making corps on other worlds but FB you dropped the price? From 17B to 10B(Sub Nukes). Wouldnt you want to increase the price? Thous people who have it on the world that don't make it make them worth more? What you did is say this world has to buy it from another world but it only costs half the price? Wouldnt you want it to be more not less?

"If we were to half the size of the units, that would be compensated by doubling their effectiveness in an engagement.

In essence nothing should change. except the number of weapons per unit."

But the game news says the effectiveness has not changed. Assuming that will be changed in the future, is that going to change the effectiveness of both offensive and defensive weapons? If costs don't actually increase, how does this make any difference? Players will obviously adjust and make more units - which means more clicks...

Or are these effectiveness adjustments only for the defense?

OK...so maybe......not likely....but maybe I understand why multiple players can't dec on a C3.

But, now we can't even use more than one of our own countries to dec a C3????

GM's can we please get this block removed soon? At the very least we should be able to use more than one of our own countries to dec.

I concur with EC. Atleast allow nations of the same empire to dec same c3.

I also agree.
If the British Isles were at war with some random country back in the 1850s, you would expect their empire to follow suit.
Sorta common sense.

Agree with EC.

I agree with EC and everyone else above about letting nations of same empire dec on a C3.

2. Cruise Missile Batteries, Cruise Missiles and Sea based Cruise Missiles [ top ]
The trading in these products will be moved to two different space stations. Cruise Missile Batteries are already trading on the Corona space station. The trading in Cruise missiles, both land based and sea based is already possible on the Lepus space station.
The trading on all world markets will be stopped. Contracts and direct sales remain possible.

This change is a further move of trading to space stations. It will take place on August 30th.
More weapons and ammunition types will move to space stations in the future.

For players who are not participating in the space game, we will make sure that all the products that are needed for consumption in the countries or for the production of all basic products, will remain on the world markets.

The trading in space products and their special components, future space weapons and materials will be placed on space stations. Also the trading in products that are not essential in the game will be move gradually into space stations.


---GREAT MOVE GM---

Yeah, great, soon you will need to maintain a dock at each and every space station. And remember the solar system is expanding soon.

Disable the requirement to have a dock to buy products in space

Oh yeah, and yes I agree with EC entirely.