GREF shows it true color. (Golden Rainbow)

GREF is no longer a peaceful, economic federation. In the past week without any provocation from myself or any members of United Confederation, Members of GREF have declared on myself and other members of UC with the full knowledge of Alex the Chairman of GREF.

John L
Map Dominion

Requeste a trade boy cott on he chairmans country from th e security council

Members of GREF have started boycotts against:AF IS DEAD
BooYaH
Her Holiness Arriving
Map Dominion
Queen of Battle
Shall We Inanna
ShyczMattiC Legion 1
ShyczMattiC Legion 2
ShyczMattiC Legion 3
Please take the time and start an anti-boycott request for these countries. Let GR teach GREF that aggressions is contrary to their economic goal.

Big 'ol meanies with ya boycotts

I am asking all members of Golden Rainbow to boycott Peoples Republic of abeZart. Abe is the chief chairman of GREF federation complex and should bear the responsibility of the aggression of his federation members. I will nominate other countries this evening. Please take a minute and request a boycott against Peoples Republic of abeZart.

Look this whole thing started long ago when you took out our first chairman...Q...remember?!? His only sin was he was a bit arrogant when it came to his econ...did you need to wipe him out and make him quit? Fair Play...well I'll let sc decide that.

After that GREF turned our cheek and kept he faith that the UC would be cool with us and it has worked out well at various points.

Then along comes John Fire...well we heard about your plans to take over Golden Rainbow (sign a non aggression pact with us, wipe out AF, then turn on us)...used PR to keep the balance of power out of your hands...refused to make deals with the AF to seal your fate...how's that for peaceful econ?

Next up...nuclear aggression from John L...demanding a nuke free zone in LM, which is cool and all...except for you didn't care if anybody nukes us...we would have to use conventional weapons against anybody because...you were bored and looking to pick a fight with somebody or some noob...don't pretend you were hiding behind a peaceful non nuke policy.

John L has a history of back stabbing his own Fed...So what happened with the AF when you set them up john...hmmmmmmm...nice guy!?! He disrupted the peace process during the Agency / AF...?...UC War and proceed to set up the same scenario as he did when he set up the AF and ran to the UC. If he had his way Dirt & Gunner would have been wiped out...as members of the AF were wiped out the time before. GREF has no intention of letting him continue this behavior pattern.

And lastly...we also heard recently of UC's (Dizzy / Crossdale) plans to take over Golden Rainbow once again...so how many times must we be pushed around before you get the BIG STICK!!!

Operation BIG STICK continues...BTW...I have been protecting many of the UC guys from war dec...its mostly directed at John.

BTW...here is a recent PM I got form John L:

From: Map Dominion
To: Peoples Republic of abeZart
Real Date: 16-11-2009 17:14:21
World Date: August 04 2707

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Subject: The image of GREF

Message: Disguised aggressive warriors with the image of economist. LOL. There will be hell to pay for the aggression. You might as well tell all true peaceful players in GREF their safety is no longer guaranteed. I will pray on the weak at every opportunity. I dont care if you quote me on this. I was not prepared for this war, I will be for the future ones.

Oh and yea...let us pray for those that can't spell prey

Booo Zeba Boooo . . . pray for your f>>ded<<mates who don't know how to defend. Most of your vets still don't lol. Whats up with that?

Zeba,
Hey! Good catch on my misspelling. I swear I looked it up on my pictionary before I sent you that message. Is misspelling with or without a hyphen?

I admit I did demand a nuke free zone in LM. Honestly at the time I was bored and I was trying to stir up some manure. I really expected someone to stand up and tell me "Who in heck are you to be making demands." But noone stood up and said "Boo"

Backstabbing my own federation! That is so far off from the truth it's not even in the same ballpark. I did everything I could to get rid of the AF chairman who considered every trash and vulgar words he had learned as appropriate for these forum and in game messages. Just recall every trash word you know, count them and then double. He war using all of them at the time. After I asked him and then warned him to stop the vulgarity he just kept on.

Now just face up to the fact. As Chairman of United Confederation, when members of The Agency composed of UC renegades attacked Daconia I tried to convince them to stop the aggression. Just recently when I informed you that your members had declared against me without provocation your answer was something along the line, It looks like war. YOU DID NOTHING TO Stop this war.

I do regret saying peaceful members of your federation complex are no longer safe. They are still safe from me and members of UC. Sorry I can't include you in that statement. As the Chairman you have to take responsibility for your members.

Now tell me again that GREF is a peaceful federation complex. It will be a very cold day in hell before I believe that again.

John L

All right...good answer sir...wish you had taken the time to compose other thoughts you had a long the way and perhaps I wouldn't have thought you were such a bad guy. I am sure some old AF guys will claim otherwise about the backstabbing though.

Well some in the fed were pretty bent outa shape over the nuke free zone thing and we saw it as you just described it...an aggressive action...but...I took care of it and kept the peace...you never bothered to even ask us. Guess the UC was just used to doing as they pleased regardless of what the other feds on GR thought.

No...we are going to be vigilant about our defense hence forth...while maintaining our Econ Base and continue to train young members in the art of Economics and War...sign of the changing times.

Respectfully
Zeba
GREF Chancellor

'No...we are going to be vigilant about our defense hence forth...while maintaining our Econ Base and continue to train young members in the art of Economics and War...sign of the changing times.'

All due respect Z, with statements like that, you contradict your own principles of helping young members much less training them. From an economic standpoint, you guys have already lost the war and your principles on defence are not of sound mind.

Tell me why you would have Michael buy tens of millions of population to offset nuclear attacks, rahter than nuclear defense batteries. And supply units to install and replenish them. I mean i see he has some new large supply units, but most of his corporations are now destroyed. Those aren't very good economic or war practices.

The sign of the times that is changing is that it is no longer safe for young members to join GREF. Anyone who is in disbelief can ask the person who started this war what happened to his LU empire. Aqua!? "Taste the PAINBOW" you've gone too far this time,Inanna is on a RAMPAGE. Being a GREF member without WP is going to be counter productive for some time to come. You guys need to go back to the drawing board. At the rate im going, I conservatively estimate that I will not run out of nukes for another 3 months real time. And I haven't even started production again.

My conclusion is that the structure of Simcountry has created players like Wendy and John L. If you want to play this game by building a strong economy, with health care , education, public services you have to endure a lot of tedium. The developers have done little to reduce this tedium, merely pursued projects with "pizazz" such a space stations and "solid fuel".

Inevitably some persons will choose other means to enjoy this game such as being destroyers (Wendy) and Meglomaniacs (John L). I believe these kinds of activities are destructive to the game itself, as they drive away players who just want to log on and have fun. It's admirable that players like Zeba take actions to try and save the game, but this effort will be ineffective unless the developers take a hard look at what they want this game to be, in consultation with the security council.

Joe STFU... you you care to polish anyone else's knob today? What are you talking about? GREF declares on John L. He actually has someone willing to fight with him.

I actually enjoy getting along with everyone on this game. I enjoy running a twenty country, PROFITABLE empire on LU that was more than 160 TRIL in debt. Providing a place for CEO's to land all while absorbing rediculous govt costs.

I am always ready to fight, and much more willing to throw it on the line for friends. You guys think the name of this game get gc rich and seel your coins on MSN. Well when you attack players you open yourself to a part of the game I DO enjoy more than endless clicking, the war game.

Inanna...admit ably some of us are Economists, learning the art of War, and were caught off guard by Aqua's early War Decs...so given that...must suck to get beat down by a bunch of corp wielding pencil pushers...LOL!

So speaking of true colors...you would rather prey on a weak noob then fight a prepared opponent (albeit one that only understands how to run a CEO)? Nice job Wendy...real classy. I spared a few noobs and have been protecting various vets in the UC.

Please try and have a little respect for the game and other "real" people...keep the forums clean...even if it is abbreviated it is still rude and mean spirited.

Joe.
LOL
This is about the first time I have been called a meglomaniac. I had a vague idea what it meant but since I already misspelled one word above I wanted to make sure I knew the exact meaning of megalomaniac. Here is the dictionary defenition: "a mania for great or grandiose performance". By the way, You misspelled it.

Now that I think about it, I have to agree with you. I do like the ideas that I like to sound big and important and I also have a tendency to embelish a lot of my game playing activities.

What fun is it to spend hours managing an imaginary country. I find the game extremely boring without controversy and discussion.

As Wendy stated I did not start this war. Aqua Rainbow (My friend from the early days of Allied Forces) declared on me. At first I assumed he was leaving the game and he wanted some last minute fun. But now I see he has been influenced by evil forces in the GREF Federation Complex.

So Joe, You want to spend your days accumulating vast Sim Cash so you can convert to RL money. There are probably thousands of ways to earn money that are more efficient than playing this game.

Yours in Peace and War
John L
"The Megalomaniac"

PS: I'm beginning to like my new title. ROFLMAO

Goodness, I like it so much. I just have to use it again.

John L
"The Megalomaniac"

Surely you were talking to Michael about keeping the forum clean. I made a statement, I did not thow an insult. Learn the difference.

Hmmmm.. true color. Zeba, you are lying through your teeth. "and were caught off guard by Aqua's early War Decs" lol how does one declare on a federation head without the leadership of said federation not knowing? Clearly you are mistaken, I hope. GREF has a charter. He clearly violated that charter. Yet you guys are actively campaigning with him. Clearly this was a decision reached by your leadership. It is not my fault that you fed didn't communicate that to your trainees.

I am not preying on anyone. I have decd the small and the large. If you hadn't noticed, I have only dropped nukes on the better parites in your camp. With the exception of a stray bomb or two(we'll just say those were weapon tests ;) ). Micheal, Aqua. Let me be clear my targets are not 'weak prey' They are the principle participators, congregators, material supporters, and representatives of GREF. Not limited to, but including whichever ones I find out of wp.

A second grader shouldn't be expected to have much class. Neither should an eco federation that attacks a fed head, then boycotts those who rise in defense. Are we really going there with the classy thing? Let's step away from that one.

All is fair in love and war. You boycott, I'll drop bombs. Case Closed.

I will simply state that those who don't wish to be a part of GREF wars, can simply leave the federation they are in and never return. That of course is their choice. I am in no way demanding that of anyone. Nor am I in authourity to make such demands, just a suggestion.

Zeba... you wouldn't be calling me fake would you. I'm not a fictional character, I'm Wendy haha.

Abe (Zeba) I do not know if you were here during the rule of AF's Chairman I backstabbed. If you had been you would of cringed at the vocabulary he use in these forum. Wendy's abreviation is mild in comparison.

Give Wendy credit. Her action in the current war is not "prey on a weak noob". She is getting involved by standing up against unprovoked aggression by a veteran player and his ratpack.

Your action in this affair is that of the leader who washes his hands clean and does nothing.

Let me recount of a previous incident involving Aqua Rainbow while he was in Allied Forces. Allied Forces had been in multitudes of conflict with Matt and Yankee. Eventually peace was negotiated and an agreement reached and peace restored. Aqua on his own with no knowledge of the AF leadership declared on either Matt or Yankee. I was chairman of AF at the time. Do you know what I did? I'll tell you. I had him evicted from AF. I volunteered federation support to Matt/Yankee but they told me they would handle Aqua on their own.

Now MR Abe, Tell me who is in charge of GREF.

John L
"The Megalomaniac"

Wendy, Very good come back. Guess Abe has no control in GREF. He just sits in the chair ignoring any and all responsibilities that come with leadership.

John L
"The Megalomaniac"

Ah Faith, when i left in 2005 i gave matt all my countries and sadly they were lost when he left, it would have saved me a lot of time and effort if i didnt have to rebuild my empire from scratch.

Tendo misses all the old great's....

HOT NEWS, Just in.
The Rat Pack cloked inside the economic federation GREF has been joined by several new Rats. We believe led by Zeba. Though the leadership is questionable. He has so far displayed an inability to control the evil elements of GREF.

There are reports of threats and intimidation by Zeba against peaceful members of Golden Rainbow. Already some members of GREF have expressed their distaste for the behavior of Mr Zeba's Rat Pack.

So far the following members of GREF have been identified as scurrying around Golden Rainbow looking to propagate their brand flee carrying rodents. They are:
Zeba
Blue Serpent
Aqua Rainbow II
Mr. General DirtRocker
Dorothy
Natonorad
Christopher Michael

John L
(The Megalomaniac)

Mr Zeba,
You still dont get it do you?

You dont build an evil empire on Golden Rainbow and succeed. Oppression of freedom of choice such as threats and aggressive behavior will always be resisted as long as at least one person has made the choice to "Live Free or Die working to achieve that freedom."

I'm not sure what your goals for GREF are but you lack of action in suppressing the aggressive activites of The Rat Pack will insure that GREF has reached it's Glorious Peak. A peak from which it can do no more than slide into oblivion.

Today, I dedicate my time and efforts to see you unseated from the current position you now hold as Chairman of GREF federation complex. DO NOT underestimate my abilities.

You know I have spent much time in the past to communicate to the Sub-Chairman of GREF. I will see you out of the Chair before you see me vanish from the Golden Rainbow community.

John L
(The Megalomaniac)

I swear, that one brought a tear to my eye. Very touching, this kind of dedication.

I salute you, John L.

Latias,
Thanks. That the megalomaniac in me coming to the surface.

John L
(The Megalomaniac)