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Instability!?! What's going on? (Little Upsilon)

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Martock (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 00:49 Link
Ok, just logged into Britor FTZ today and I went from having about $35T yesterday to -$129T today. What's going on here? I know I didn't have any debt, hell none of my countries has had any debt for as long as I can remember. Britor shouldn't be this massively in debt. John R? Tom? Anyone?
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Martock (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 00:51 Link
Previous Cash Total 32,686,259.37M SC$

Profit or Loss 228,924.20M SC$
Income/Cost of old Loans 0.00M SC$
Income/Cost of New Loans 60,000,000.00M SC$
Corporations bought, sold, closed and moved 0.00M SC$
Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00M SC$
Cost of building new State Corporations 0.00M SC$
Cost of building Hospitals 0.00M SC$
Cost of building Schools and Universities 0.00M SC$
Cost of building Roads and Train Tracks 0.00M SC$
Cost of Financial Services 0.00M SC$
Income/Cost for Defensive Weapons and Ammo 0.00M SC$
Income/Cost for Offensive Weapons and Ammo 0.00M SC$
Income/Cost for Strategic Weapons and Ammo 0.00M SC$
Raw Materials Purchased from Local Corporations 0.00M SC$
Materials Purchased -596,392.58M SC$
Materials sold or used by Government 142,849.03M SC$
Spending by the Population 242,438.97M SC$
Automatic Cash Transfers 0.00M SC$
Manual Cash Transfers -168,000,000.00M SC$
Bonuses and Awards 0.00M SC$
Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00M SC$
Cash/Debt Inherited from Conquered and Closed Countries 0.00M SC$
Repairing War Damage and Civil Unrest 0.00M SC$
Income/Cost of Shares 0.00M SC$

Cash Available -53,060,000.00M SC$


I see that 'Manual Cash Transfers' has removed $168T from Britor's coffers, a total that it never had if you look at the top. Someone please give me an explaination for this? I've now got $60T in loans for debt I didn't create.
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quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)
18 Feb 2009 00:52 Link
Its same problem as your population one. A massive bug.
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Martock (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 00:55 Link
Come to think of it, Britor did transfer $3T to Mindao in the past few days. One lingering question I have now is, am I going to be held responsible for this debt?

@ Quaxocal - Yea, but I LIKE that BUG! It's the first time in forever that I logged in and saw HLW's in record numbers. Kinda sucks too as I just decided to increase my hospitals to 3100. If I lose this excess pop, I hope Tom will be kind enough to give me back the 15GC I spent to get pop in the first place.
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John R
18 Feb 2009 00:59 Link
I expect the backups to kick in tomorrow.
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Martock (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 01:05 Link
Great...Lovely...Wonderful. I should expect MASSIVE worker shortages but at least no debt. Probably be down 15GC's to boot.
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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 01:32 Link
Great Martock. I'm there too. I have 150T of debt in one country. Im doing everything I can to try and stabilise it, but nothings working.

What happens if it goes bankrupt? Whats the limit?

Yesterday - it had 87T in there - now this.....
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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 01:37 Link
Heres mine;

Manual Cash Transfers -136,211,000.00M SC$
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Martock (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 01:40 Link
I'm hoping that we won't get shafted and lose the country due to this. That would simply be unacceptable. I'm not going to even waste my time trying to correct the issue as there is no way I can.
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Kevin Henry (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 01:42 Link
In the past with, granted much smaller, glitches W3C has always been good with compensating for damages. So I don't think there's any reason to panic at this point.
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Martock (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 01:47 Link
I'll panic when I see my pop go from 132m down to 117m and my worker shortages shoot through the roof. My fear with Britor is that the fix may not come soon enough and I may end up losing the country due to it being forced closed.
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John R
18 Feb 2009 01:51 Link
SEE!? SEE!?

If the game was on Zimbabwean Dollars, everyone would have enormous cash reserves and no one would miss 136T of cash disappearing.

PS: A loaf of bread costs 136T in Zimbabwe.
PPS: That money better show up on my countries.
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Jo Jo Hun (Fearless Blue)
18 Feb 2009 01:58 Link
Haha, I just got paid +74T SC$ for taking a nap!
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Zeba (Golden Rainbow)
18 Feb 2009 02:01 Link
1st off...I'm an idiot! Thought it was my lucky day...a good bug gave me 60T...thought I would get penalized with the newly instituted financial services fee, so after waiting 2 months I spent about half of it and then next time I check I am -66T in debt.! Cr@ptacular...going to drop me to level -1 and take a week and all my GC's to dig myself out of this one.

It's like dangling a fresh carrot in front of a hungry rabbit!!! Moral...there is no such thing as your lucky day in SimCountry.

If I lose my country I'm going to quit this game!
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quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)
18 Feb 2009 02:07 Link
Procifica II 237,264.83B SC$ <---Manual Cash Transfers 229,287,628.81M SC$
Procifica IV -90,000.00B SC$ <---Manual Cash Transfers -128,280,982.45M SC$


Kinda fun to watch really. But definitely a total time waster.

LG says W3C should be resetting the servers to some point in time yesterday before all this crap started. They keep daily backups, so no one is going to lose their country over this.

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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 02:14 Link
I hope not Q, if I do then i'm outta here.
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quaxocal (Golden Rainbow)
18 Feb 2009 02:16 Link
I think W3C would be losing ALOT of players if we lost countries over this bug.
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Zeba (Golden Rainbow)
18 Feb 2009 02:23 Link
Just checked...I'm down to -90T. Man I did a lot of work on my slave today...is all that going to be gone...I set up 20 supply units, 4 Interceptor wings, new garrison blueprints, deployed garrisons, ordered lots of ammo...besides all the usual building and stuff.

Then my CEO...seriously...it takes me like 20 minutes to go through 350 corps and tweak all my trade strategies...market has been really fluxing lately.
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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 02:26 Link
My CEO has just doubled in value, and I have more cash in one of my war slaves than I did - 23T more.
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Petra Arkanian (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 03:09 Link
On KB two of my countries "The Love of WildEyes" and "The Glory of WildEyes" dropped to -50T and -57T respectively.

EDIT: I am now up to -90T in both countries.

EDIT2: Both of my LU CEOs "Bio Manufacturing 1" and "Bio Energy 2" are both at -60T


I have trillions and trillions in assets that would disappear of any of these went bankrupt and de-registered.
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Zeba (Golden Rainbow)
18 Feb 2009 03:39 Link
I hope this gets fixed soon...here's the auto message from the GM to my main country:

The netcash limit for countries that are part of an empire is -60T SC$.

The netcash position of "Peoples Republic of abeZart" is -70T SC$.

Please improve the financial position of your country before it goes bankrupt.
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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 03:46 Link
Zeba - I got one too, except triple those figures and your about there.....
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Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 03:52 Link
I would not be surprised to find that this is not a bug, but rather willful and deliberate theft. It sure would fit in well with the other recent changes...
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Lelouch Vi Britannia (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 04:00 Link
Stuart should've never joked about Boycotting Tom on LU : P
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Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)
18 Feb 2009 04:16 Link
lol - shut up loki!!! :)