W3C - Space Functions and other future developments

The doc states:

"Each Cargo Shuttle includes one Shuttle Fuselage that is the main part of the shuttle and includes its control center. The main part of the shuttles is assembled out of 20 shuttle extensions that make the cargo shuttle into a giant space craft that can move large amounts of cargo, at high speed over large distances."

"The shuttle is powered by a set of 10 shuttle engines that allow for maneuvering the shuttle in space and maintain its speed for long distances. All travel between space stations and between space stations and land bases is powered by the shuttle engines"

I take this to mean you need 1 Fuselage, 20 extensions, and 10 shuttle engines to build one Shuttle, but when I look at existing Shuttle Corps players already have the supply requirement is one Fuselage PER MONTH, even though it takes many months to produce a shuttle.

First question: Does it take one Fuselage or many to build a shuttle?

Second Question: If the answer is many is this a glitch in the game? Should it really just take one?

Ooo-err :/

Everyday the space dept. looks less and less attractive to me. I was just about giving in to the pressure to get involved, but to read that there are so many problems and now Greens highlighted that issue I'm back to waiting to see what happens.

Crafty 'strictly terrestial' Cockney

It should be one fuselage per cargo shuttle. I just corrected an error that made it to use a little more.
This will be in the next upgrade.

The upgrade is completed.

there are now cargo shuttles offered on the direct trading market. more will be added if necessary.

as to the production of cargo shuttles:

it can be very attractive if you have the parts you need and these are major industries by themselves.

shuttle parts will be offered on the space market today to make it possible to increase production more quickly.

we will be very careful not to damage the industry making these parts but as of now, there are too few factories making them.

Please read the game news today.
many items on the space game and more.

Oops, I didn't read the space documentation properly as all world to world journeys account for 2 shuttle missions.

Tom, will shuttle maintenance units now have a use?

make them.
they will be in use probably next week or the week after.

they will be used, per flight and must be available either on the shuttle itself or where it is launched (space station or space center).

we will initially load several maintenance units on all shuttles when the upgrade takes place so that no one gets stuck.

i forsee SMU, (?) being a big item eventually.

Tom, as far as the fuselage thing, above, you said that its suppose to be one fuselage per shuttle, but just checking, what green said seems to still be true, requiring 12 fuselage per shuttle (one per month,) meaning that we need 10 times the number of fuselage corps to shuttle corps...

additionally, i have some dead shuttles, with 0 missions, is their a way to fix the shuttles? if not, can you delete those useless shuttles?

one fuselage per cargo shuttle!
a fuselage corporation produces more units than a cargo shuttle corp does.
it is about 0.7 fuselage corporations for one cargo shuttle corporation.

extensions and boosters:
20 per cargo shuttle of each. so engines corporations will do very good and extensions too.

all these corporations are very profitable.
the products are now offered on the space market.

You have chosen to build a corporation that will produce Shuttle Fuselage.
The maximum production of such a corporation is 1 shuttle fuselages per year.

so at 1 produced each game year, and 1 need each month, thats more like 12 fuselage corps per shuttle.

although, looking at the new corp screen, is lists 0 fueslages per GM, now. but when you go to a shuttle corp, it lists it as 1 per month. but my actual supply seems to be holding better than for one/GM. i really hope that it is working as intended, makes constructing shuttles much easier at 1 fusuelag per shuttle, than 1 per gm.

I'd still like to know why the f**k I can't buy a docking station on the nuclear weapon station.

Level requirement?

Billy Bob, try Contacting a GM and Ask to have a few opened. That stasion is probably protected from noob mistakes and single buy outs. Tip, people tend to be more reseptive to the polite. ;)

Well it is very clear to me that BBJBS needs an attitude adjustment. I think I'll hostile bid a few corps in his country and name em after shoes. ha ha ha ha

Be nice Lorelei, he's just a young pup who hasn't had to deal with real life yet, and hasn't learned the proper etiquette required for social interactions.

Plus he has a fetish with nuclear weapons!

How come there isn't shoe corps in SC? Or does that fall under clothes? No pun intended (maybe).

Every kid who joins just wants to buy a bunch of nukes and blow someone's country up with them, or some other sort of chaos. Then they realize they have to have patience and a very elementary understanding of nation building +finances and throw in the towel.

I keep coming back to this game because of my college background; I'm a sucker for international relations stuff, as cheesy as the sycophantic platitudes involved can be.

@ Synicus: alright, I'll try that, thanks.
@ Lorelei: you are now officialy my second least favorite human being on the planet. That's a pretty good achievement, considering the dipshits I go to school with. Congratulations!
@ rep: you have no idea the kind of real life ethat I've dealt with. And my fetishes are much, MUCH more perverted than nuclear weapons.
@ alan: if I were just here to get some nukes to chuck around, then I would have given up long ago. I think it's actually a pretty fun game, I just think that nukes will help me with my goal to eventaully rule the entirety of Kebir Blue. Probably not going to happen, but let me keep my delusions of grandeur, okay?

Naw, Lorelei and BBJBS. You two are so kyoot!

Every full member can purchase a docking station if one is offered on the space station.
There are several docking stations offered on that space station. you should be able to purchase one.

beginners cannot purchase a cargo shuttle. they cannot produce nukes and cannot purchase them or otherwise we would have them being used all the time.

BBJBS,

Everybody deals with crap in their lives. It's how you adjust to the trials that determine whether you end up as a reasonably adjusted human being or some embittered whiner who believes he/she has been screwed by life.

I know that, as a teenager, you don't believe in much common courtesy, or maybe your folks never taught you that. But Lorelei is right; your attitude could use an adjustment. It's not cool to come on the boards and show the rudeness that you sometimes do. And threatening people in the game is one thing, but when you threaten RL actions (quoting one of your posts to me in another thread: "I'll find out where you live and slit your throat while you sleep") is liable to get you into deep doo doo.

It's a game. Chill a little, show some courtesy and some tolerance for other opinions, and you'll be better off.

one fuselage per cargo shuttle!
a fuselage corporation produces more units than a cargo shuttle corp does.
"it is about 0.7 fuselage corporations for one cargo shuttle corporation.

extensions and boosters:
20 per cargo shuttle of each. so engines corporations will do very good and extensions too.

all these corporations are very profitable.
the products are now offered on the space market. "

This is not actually the case my cargo shuttle has consumed its monthly requirement of engines and extensions, but never actually produces anything. If there really is supposed to be a limit why does the company continue to consume other parts, when it is missing one?


My shuttle maintenance company claims to have 42 shuttle maintenance products offered on the world market. but no offers exist that I can cancel it just shows 42 in the product offered line.

ok my Cargo Shuttle company has now consumed 5 fuselages and not produced a single shuttle

It cannot consume 5 fuselages and not produce 5 cargo shuttles. Also: how do you know? If you can see this, please show me. mail us the details please.

This is absolutely impossible as the process is exactly defined and has the digit 1 for the number of fuselages. (or more precisely 0.84 to produce 0.84 cargo shuttles each year.)

CargoShuttle 0.84 cargo shuttle Space Industry
ShuttleComponents 18000
ShuttleExtensions 16.8
ShuttleBoosters 16.8
ShuttleEngines 8.4
ShuttleFuselage 0.84

There are more products used but I copied the space industry products only from our production sheets to this window.

check again. All corporations work in the same way and there is no separate process for cargo shuttle.

all corporations that produce less than one product per game year are more complex. Nuclear weapon corporations do the same and they all work correctly for years.

The Cargo shuttle corporation does not use part of the products it needs.
if it is in production (when it has the work force it needs and the parts it needed) it will use them all in the correct proportions.

the cargo shuttle company takes about 15 game months in full production to produce one cargo shuttle.

then you can move the shuttle to your country, it will be placed in the space center and you can either use it or sell it on the direct trading market.
current price about 3.1 gold coins (800B).

if the corporation is paying high salaries and the welfare index is high, it could be producing at 120%. this will reduce the production time to about 12 months.
(0.07 per month * 1.2 = 0.84 per month or 1.08 per game year).

the cargo shuttle corporation is very different from any other corporation in the game.
most corporations output is between 15B and 80B per year.

a cargo shuttle corporation produces for 240B to 1.000B per year and needs lots of resources to evade bankruptcy.

we have explained it in the last game news.

I see it because I supply each fuselage from my enterprise. I have read the game news. I have read your posts. Cargo shuttles are not sold on the open market so the company hasnt made one, but I have continued to supply the fuselages. I have also supplied a large quantity of engines and extentions. I am now back to where I was with the previous shuttle company, it takes out loans.

So far my 4 corps have produced shuttles.. 1 each so far as they are new. 2 things you can check tom, One, see how many shuttles you have.. they should be increasing, another.. check your corp. Look at the graph beside "Products Sold". Are there huge spikes? if so, then a shuttle has been produced. Also, make sure your corps never run low on supplies, just list your corps and if it says under "suppiles" ok then your ok, if it says low or none, then you need to investigate to see what you need to do. Sorry if this is all very basic information to you tom, but im not sure how long you have played.