W3C - Award paid - check the influence on your score

All awards for March are now paid.

Award penalties were applied to all players who accepted their awards. (first place awards are accepted automatically). Players can now receive multiple awards in a single month.

When a player receives an award for a high rank as a president or an Enterprise CEO, the award is accompanied by an award penalty.
The penalty is intended as a way to reduce the score of high award winners and allow others to win awards in the following months. A similar system existed before that prevented multiple awards and did not allow high award winners to win in the following months.

The award penalty is 1000 score points for the first award, 300 score points for the second group of awards and 100 score points for the third group of awards. The numbers will probably change next month before becoming definitive.

The award penalty will become larger if the player accepts more awards. If awards are refused, the penalty for the refused awards will not apply.
If any award in any of the worlds is accepted, a penalty will be applied to all the countries and enterprises that are owned by the player in all the worlds.
The score penalty is reduced by 7 points each day and its influence on the score will wane in time.

I suggest that an automatic message be sent to the winners of first award, so they become aware that they received the prize.

I only knew because I read the forum.

Ditto!

I just got the #1 on KB for CEO and Empire and for those 2 the score of both is reduced by 2000, I can confirm that, but for my second CEO on KB the score is what it was before, no reduction.
The Score for the slaves are also reduced as intended.

Andy, I would suggest the Reduction of the score should also be linked to the GCs won or only the Highest award is to be automatically accepted. Reason is that when I compare that I win about twice as much GCs for the Empire #1 then for the CEO #1, thats a real big unequality if both of those awards give you the same score reduction.

True.
we also have a problem here. It is however easier to win a CEO award.

we will look more into it. this is why we have already said that the numbers will change next month.

When I compare prizes (talking about KB numbers) there is another big displacement w:
If you win first Prize you get about 2,3 GCs per day your score is reduced,
but if you win 2.-9. you get about 2,9 GCs per day your score is reduced.

Calculation: (GCs won)/(Score Reduction/7)

So if you win first you win less compared to what you win if you're 2.-9.

So when are the ones that were sent to the basement going to be freed?
I have been down in the 5900+ for my country since the end of December even though my main has a score of 2877 and my two CEOs are stuck down at 119 and 120.

your in-game documentation is not clear,
i refused a 32 gold award for my country as it said awards over 30 gold incur a penalty, and accepted an 18 gold for my enterprise as the in-game documentation said this did not incur a penalty.
have now received a score penalty on all countries and my enterprise.
very ordinary implementation...

My LU country, Last Bastion, was given a 1000 point penalty despite being in 3rd place at award time.

Also, my LU CEO Teddy Bears Picnic, got no award depite being ranked first place??

My 2nd CEO on LU, Teddys Picnic Basket, had its score bottomed out, even although it was ranked like 45 at award date.

Could you look into this please?

dboyd: should be released when your normal Dungenoneering should have ended, so if you got #1 Award Dezember thats 6 months from there on

claude: documentation is not up to date sadly, the Penalty in docs is from former Awards-structure, the Penalty you got is from new Awards-structure

Update: The GM has explained that my #1 award was automatically accepted, its just the wrong CEO they have deducted the score from then

Thanks for clearing that up, I thought it was two months…

Another well thought out, flawlessly implemented change to a well established part of the game.

Congratulations W3C.

I agree with Crafty..I personally like the idea. It creates another element and challenge as well. I just hope I don't rise up the ranks to quickly..those dang awards are so tempting..He,he,he

Alright, this has been rattling around my head for a few days. Why is it a given that it is easier to win a CEO award?

Aries, I think thats cause there are less CEOs on a World then Empires. If I compare the 'top 200' CEOs on KB, which only consist of 77 CEOs, to the about 900 Empires its simply less Competetors (not talking about Competition)

Kebir is a good example. I started a country there in March 15th. At the end of the month, I was ranked in the 60s after a few weeks of play. If I had spent any of the gold coins I earned gaining game levels 2 and 3, to get a few million population, I likely would have won a monthly award.

On the enterprise side, KB appears to simply give out too many enterprise awards. You are right, only 77 CEOs there where on LU you will find 159. Why does KB hand out 15 awards to LUs 12?

The last CEO currently in prize position on KB has 90 corps and less than $30T in assets and would be good for exactly 44th place on LU. The last CEO currently in prize position on LU has 314 corps and over $125T in assets. I would say that this CEOs path wasn't any easier than the KB president currently ranked in position to get the rank 31 country award.

At the top, it is no different. My LU enterprise, hit with an 800 point penalty, would still coast to a first place prize on KB this month though I didn't win first last month on LU and I won't win first place this month.

Gamemaster, if the goal encouraging competition, please reward the major league of CEO competition that is found on LU with a more deserving reward scale.

The Problem is I guess that the Awards are not related to the number of CEOs but to the total number of players so more like the total number of presidents on a world

Surely it's a matter of scale Aries. On KB there are far less players and corporations, hence not such a lively market and being a CEO is just as hard as anywhere, if not more so. Try it for yourself if you haven't already.

perhaps the easier awards for less populated worlds, can offer an incentive for players to sign up on other worlds.

Yeah, come to KB, I feel like spunking a few hundred trillion of military on some mouthy gits.

The lack of presence of players on KB, of a "lively" market, does not make it more difficult to run a profitable enterprise. The most useful role players provide to help enterprises is raiding, which occurs on KB, and perhaps not for the reasons you think.

As far as scale, they are not far apart. 3,061 countries vs. 3,467 and about 60k corps vs. 80k.

It is far harder to find pres countries with suitable criteria I find Aries. Basically, that's the issue I was talking about. And I'm not sure where you get those numbers, from a download they may be right, from the W3C information given - completely unreliable.

I prefer to have my corps in C3 countries actually if they are not in my own.

The numbers are from W3C. No download. From the worlds page:

Little Upsilon - World Statistics
Total # of Countries 3,467
Countries with Presidents 1,580
Enterprises 151
Countries without a President 1,887
State Corporations 52,919
Private Corporations 27,911

Kebir Blue - World Statistics
Total # of Countries 3,061
Countries with Presidents 1,423
Enterprises 70
Countries without a President 1,638
State Corporations 51,498
Private Corporations 9,935

Is there any way we can see our current penalty?

I'm not seeing my score going up 7 points a day.

Also, how exactly is the penalty deducted by 7 points a day? Is there a single game month in a day the deduction is applied, or is it spread over the game months or other so such?