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Countries will usually be a c3 that the sponsor recently conquered at war level 3 (that update came in handy for this) and prepared for the match. I was thinking taking the country at that war level will give the sponsor the ability to preserve the country's economy to support the participants' or sponsor's military. A few minor adjustments, including raising taxes to 75%, will help the finance index and avoid weapon deactivation.

The scenarios will drive much of the details but you read my mind. I was about to update the challenge thread with asking for the participants' time zone. That info will be useful for the sponsor when communicating the start of the match.

I have added a third War Game scenario, "The Stand", to the War and Peace forum.

Another way players can help is to check my scenarios on the War and Peace forum. If they have suggestions on how to make them better or wish to add their own scenarios to that forum it would be a great help. The scenarios work as a rough outline of a particular match. The final details are at the discretion of the match sponsor.

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DIXE LAND / FEARLESS BLUE / CLASS A - players with the least skill/resources

Can you tell me where I can get the GCs to set up on FB and use space then please ?

I can't see I need yet another way to convert GCs into sim cash.

Afraid I'm not ready to spend more real cash here yet over what it takes to be a premium player.

Toecutter, part of the goal of my "Total War" idea was to add gold coin rewards to PvP. Currently, no coins are offered for PvP and one must get coins from game level awards, war level awards, world rankings, or space instead.

It is quite possible to sustain for quite a while off those rewards though. I just got the game level 12 award on fb and ran up my war level there, as well, which will sustain my operations for some time. As the rewards can be repeated on each world, there are quite a number of coins available.

That's fine for you Aries. You have quadrillions and many coins and all the army a player could need.

My country has 20 odd million pop, I have 30T cash, 33 corps and have done lvl 3. So to advance I need a further 30GC for the required enterprise (monthly). I am no where near space yet. No where near lvl 12 and no where near reaping lvl rewards from my home world let alone others. And of course my economy cant support serious war level advances even if I did want to go down that route.

So to repeat:

Can you tell me where I can get the GCs to set up on FB and use space then please ?

Try thinking of the majority of the player base Aries, not just yourself.

Sure, I can get specific.

You are currently game level 4. That means you have already collected:

Game Level 2 - 10 gold coins
Game Level 3 - 50 gold coins
Game Level 4 - 50 gold coins

You have collected 110 coins. If you choose the 9 month premium membership, you get another 90 coins. That is 200 coins and your empire is less than 60 days old. Not too shabby. Ahead of you, you have some choices.

Choice 1 - You can be a peace-lover.

If you go this route, you would need the 30 coins for the enterprise to continue gaining the peaceful game levels. This opens up the path to more coins through the single-player econ game that has been described on other threads. As you have collected a minimum of 110 coins for game level 4, you should be well-funded for this step.

Choice 2 - You can be a warlord.

If you go this route, you probably should seek out a federation and gain allies. Buy a couple shuttles (currently priced at .38 coins each), and take your show to FB where you use your 30 coins to register there instead.

You can peacefully duplicate your success with game levels here and earn another 110 coins just for getting to game level 4 again. Raid c3s for their riches and, along with their cash, pocket another 100 coins just for getting to war level 5. The road is bright ahead with many more coins available for additional war levels and game levels with your two budding empires.


Yes, I have stuff. How do you think I got it? It just shows it is possible. With War Games, I am making the warlord path to gaining assets even easier. I expect to elevate players with similar resources as yourself to the mid-tier and maybe further. It is up to you whether you want to take advantage of the opportunities.

Drys can't post on the forum but has messaged me that he is interested in participating on any world and any class. So he is available to be challenged. So far, it appears we have the following participants who have either posted here or messaged me privately:

Drys
Fighting Falcon
Johanas
Richard Black
Brandon Fleetwood

You guys should feel free to comment on the scenarios I posted on the War and Peace forum or propose your own there. When you are ready, you can challenge someone who has signed up on the challenge thread there. Include the world, proposed class, your time zone, and scenario. If your opponent accepts I will review it and work out the details.

An update on what I am thinking about class. Class will determine the reward and the participants will propose the class during the challenge. The sponsor has the option to accept the proposed class or counter with a match at a lower class level. This will be at the discretion of the sponsor based on the perceived level of competition and influenced by the proposed scenario.

Some guys I am hoping will sign up still include:

Graziani - who mentioned he liked this idea and was the first to comment on a scenario

Nix - either sponsor or participant would be fine. both?

Toecutter - i think you will find cash is the great limiter to breaking out to mid-tier warlord. let's get you started.

Demona008 - you seem interested to break into the war game. you might as well learn on my dime. you and Richard might make a fun match.

Gaz - you would make a good opponent to Drys or Nix in class AAA.

Tonyw - go ahead and sign up. the games might make it to kb or you we might entice you to come to fb.

Dubhthaigh
Jackwagen

Let's get this started!

I like the idea! Hopefully if this garners enough interest the developers will code in their own version.

One quick thought - I notice we are both SC on LU. The development aid funds could be useful for expanding the sponsorship etc?

I am happy to enter a C3 strength country into class A.

Well Aries. It looks as if you have finally ressurected the DEAD haha. But in all seriousness i wish you all the best with your Tournament.

I don't know who the biggest spammer is Aries, you or Hez.

How many threads do you have going on this subject ?

Stop littering the forum with your egotistical spoutings, I for one wouldn't mind a thread about something else, and this is the general forum btw, not suggestions.

Also, you made no valid suggestion as to where I get the GC needed, guesstimate for me, if you would be so kind, how many gold coins it would take me to buy a match to your arsenal in space please.

Thanks Dub! Are you just entering on LU? Need to declare your world to make it easier for other participants to know who they can challenge.

Thanks Blackeyes! Sign up if you want to. It is going to be fun.

Toecutter, Sorry to hear you are having financial trouble with coins. Not sure where you are going with "my arsenal in space". Yes, I sell some things in space. I didn't acquire that stuff with coins though. It would be difficult, or very costly, to duplicate my assets with gold coins. I found I needed to generate game cash to get going and now I am going to make it a little bit easier for others.

Your arsenal in space - things I can't buy except in space, to equal your arsenal on the worlds. The many thousands of high end missiles and their delivery systems. Nuclear weapons etc etc.

And I would love to start an off weps maint corp because of constant shortages on GR but cant even get the supplies for it.

Also remember 1M pop is 6GC.

You seem to think your situation is unique. We all have the same challenges in acquiring gold coins and have to make decisions on how to invest them. Setting up on FB and acquiring a dozen shuttles costs about 35 coins. All those things you can't buy, except in space, are manufactured for cash on FB.

I am interested why your focus is on me though. I don't have the most gold coins. I don't have the most mobile units/professional soldiers. I don't even have the most strategic weapons, not that I put the value on those that you seem to. What is it?

Maybe because you brag so much about being the biggest and best...

Toecutter, I am not sure where your feelings were hurt but take a sim-tissue and move on.

It is up to participants to drive the next step. Check out scenarios and you can challenge on the challenge thread, find both on the War and Peace forum. A few match-ups I would like to see would be:

Drys vs. Nix at Class AAA
Richard Black vs. Demona008 at Class AA
Brandon Fleetwood vs. Fighting Falcon at Class A
Tonyw vs. Johanas at Class A

I'm down for my match

Falcon, Brandon has challenged you on the challenge thread on the War and Peace forum. Check out the terms and either accept or suggest changes. thanks!

id be glad to compete soon. but first I need to move up a war level since im at 2. my country is-
The Kingdom of Benino/White Giant/ Class A.

Sure, I'll take the plunge and go for it on LU. Which war level should I be aiming for?

Also, as this is effectively C3 vs C3 warfare are we entering into a 'gentlemans (or genteelwomans) agreement' to avoid bolstering said country with CEO intereference/cash injections etc?

Aries, I got 'hurt' by SC when Tom Willard was replaced by andy. The game was destroyed, and such a brilliant game it was, there was no comparison, nothing even came close, that I ever found on the interwebs.

The community disappeared and was replaced by accusations of multi-ing, people pretending to be Wildeyes and all sorts of rubbish (maybe some of it true in Kiss's case). And then people started rueing the war game and making endless suggestions to change it. The worst ones were taken on board by andy.

And here we are, I come back some years later to find the same old, same old, suggestions and debate still going round in circles.

And honestly, I don't see a lot of difference in the way you are going about having SC work your way than in the way Hezzy did.

So you get over it my boy, if you don't like SC, fuck off somewhere else.

Graziani, good deal. I feel games will come to WG real soon.

Dubhthaigh, the participants choose the options for their match, including the scenario (which they can even propose themselves) and what class they will fight at (driving the cash reward amount). Think of the participants as Prize Fighters and their own promoters. On the challenge thread, a participant basically says, "hey, i want to fight this guy at this place on these terms". the other participant says. "your on! who wants to see this?". The sponsor then might suggest modifications or simply say, "i would pay to see that". Based on the entertainment of the match, viewers might see a participant grow to warrant a bout against someone else in a higher class or demand a rematch. Oh, don't forget that we are able to drop war level protection.

Toecutter, you miss several points. One, this thread describes a game feature that already exists, not a suggestion. Funny thing is that after I outlined how it could work, I received several messages from players saying how they considered something similar.

About Hez, he did some good things. For the failings of his world government, he drove a lot of the community together, either with him or opposing him. However, War Games is much different than anything Hez was doing. Comb through what I have outlined. I gave power to the participants and wrote myself out of the process as much as possible. Participants set the rules and choose their battles. The sponsor, who could gladly be someone other than me, simply offers to fund and setup the match.

So, participate, don't participate, it is your choice.

Dear Toecutter,

I think it is fair to say that there are a great many of us who adore this game. All our interests are different, and we are here for different reasons.

Simcountry is and always has been a game of egos and great pride by many of its players. It is quite an accomplishment to meet the game goals and challenges head on. There are truly some brilliant minds in this game and some truly remarkable players. I am happy to say that I have played in feds with some of the games' greatest and finest.

I don't perceive Aries as a controlling person or threat to this game. I see an active player, who loves the game, and like many players, throws out ideas and suggestions. I think his effort here is to build a fun, learning aspect to the game, to get players involved and active and to play wargames. We used to do this all the time within our feds. It's a great learning opportunity for players wanting to learn the war game. PVP wars are much different than C3 wars.

To be fair, Toecutter, the changes to the game are not Andy's fault. They aren't Jonni's fault. They are not any one person's fault. They are many peoples' fault. There have been so many abuses of the game, with multiplaying, game bashing and whatnot, utter nonsense, it destroyed the wonderful dynamic of the game. That is when the changes began. Can't blame the games owner for trying to make the game fair for everyone and encourage fair play.

I don't know what the answers are. I just know that we, the players, are probably more to blame than the owners of the game for how the game has changed. I would like the see the community more involved. I'd like to see more people talking and recruiting and helping each other.

How do you ever expect to make this the thriving game it once was if you don't do your part.

Josias - get in chat and TEACH. NIX, I want to see you talking more...........Chiwoo, you too. All of you game greats. Veteran players.....split up and form feds and promote good competition amongst you. It is up to all of you, the community to shape this game.

I wish you luck, each and every one of you.

The Wicked Lady