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Does anyone else feel like a race war is brewing?

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SeizeForce
07 Aug 2016 10:53 Link
With all the recent attacks and rise of right wing nationalism, alt rights and etc. I feel like we're in for a good amount of drama. All we need is just to sit back with sunglasses and watch it all pop off.

I'm a hillary supporter, but I kinda want to see what WW3, mass deportation, mass incarceration would look like under Trump. I can finally tell stories to my future grandkids.

Real life is too peaceful. Crime is going down everywhere around the world. We need a catalyst to start shit again.
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Zen
07 Aug 2016 18:01 Link
I am conservative, and in the past 6 months I've been leaning more and more towards conservatism after doing more research on it and seeing in real time what left wing policy does to countries. I do not support Donald Trump either, he is not a conservative and he is going to destroy the republican party if he takes office. He is making republicans look vulgar. Which they are not. The sad part is that the republican party themselves are accepting some things from the democratic party because a minority of "pussified" youth get offended by inequality based on production.

If you believe Hillary would make world war 3 less likely that makes no sense. She's always been a supporter of Obamas wars. Trump didn't support Obama's, or Bush's wars. That's one thing I can trust about Trump. I also believe in his mind, he is helping America and he cares for the country. I don't think he would knowingly purposely do something that would hurt the country.

Right-wing nationalism is the result of left-wing policy in those countries. The left keeps pushing its agenda on the right and that creates the alt right. Which is making true conservatism look bad. Conservatives don't want to be governed. It's that simple.
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Eugene Mac
07 Aug 2016 20:05 Link
I am interested in what groups SeizeForce is thinking of when he says right wing nationalism. Can you be more specific?
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SeizeForce
08 Aug 2016 03:28 Link
@Zen, I think Hillary will just continue on using drone strikes against weaker countries where terrorists would be bombed. And could you tell me what wars Obama started? Both Libya and Syria were a result of the citizens overthrowing its government. Hillary is just a clone of Obama and will keep things the way they are currently.

But currently, Trump pissed off every single one of our allies. Even Israeli's PM Netanyahu condemned him. Our european counterparts and Canada can't stand him. Especially with his comments on NATO.

Of course, I don't think Trump would purposefully hurt the country. He's already a billionaire married to a hot chick,and the last check on his bucket list is to become a President of the US and make this country "great again" (And what time period would that be?)

@Eugene The rise of neo nazi groups.
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Zen
08 Aug 2016 06:00 Link
We funded those wars, so we were a part of those wars. I guess bombing terrorists( and civilians )is what we should be spending our taxpayer money on. The same terrorists our country funded and radicalized. The United States is trying to force Russia to increase military spending by setting up more battalions and missile defenses in Poland and other european countries bordering Russia. These are Obamas decisions to "Make NATO stronger" If Russia takes the bait the country will become even worse economically and then the United States will come in diplomatically and try to force the break up of Russian states. That is the underlying goal here. We have been in an economic war against Russia for some time. The United States have been the aggressors. A lot of european countries like Germany, Italy, and France don't want economic sanctions on Russia. They want to trade freely with Russia and make money with Russia. Russia has no intention on increasing its military spending or increasing its influence in these countries. There are a large number of Ukrainians who want the country to be united with Russia. We do not live there, we don't have a say in what Russia does.

The reality is that the United States is no stronger than Russia, because both countries can destroy eachother within a few hours. Which is why no matter how much stronger our military becomes we can not go to war with Russia or China. Nuclear threat is the reason every single country that is not the United States have decreased military spending. There is no need for any first world country to have a large military since the biggest threat is untrained terrorist organizations and rebellions.

What's cheaper, a few thousand nuclear missile silos or billions of ammunition, millions of bombs and missiles, thousands of tanks, ships, planes, helicopters, and weapons platforms..? This is why I don't trust Hillary Clinton and believe she doesn't have American safety as her first priority. Which is every governments main priority. To protect its citizens and keep law&order. Helping overthrow third world governments has nothing to do with our safety. Yes, we are the world police. However I still don't think we should tell other countries how to govern themselves. This may be the 21st century but the land of freedom is restricting the freedom of other governments to do what they want. That's like me saying hey you're communist and I dont like that. Let me force you into a democratic country by killing thousands of your soldiers. Which are just civilians in military clothing because those countries can not afford a trained army.

The goal for the united states is to in the end destroy russia. Either economically or by nuclear strike. That's the truth. I don't believe the propaganda our country sets up about Russia. Also, I don't blame anyone in the military either. I have high respect for people in the military, I have friends my age in USAF and the Marines. None of them like what our politicians are making them do. They signed up to defend freedom and the american people, not kill people in the middle east by remote control.

I don't like Trump either, but I think his positive attitude towards Russia is a good thing. Even if our media tries to make it out as if he is being paid by the Russians. The Clinton News Network or CNN has been biased towards Trump on television and Facebook for months. Every single day I get on facebook I have to see more of CNNs lies.

I love the United States, I also like Russia a lot as well. I hope in the future our two countries will become more friendly towards each other. I have a few Russian friends on Xbox I talk to every now and then, they seem like pretty cool guys and have no hatred towards me being an American, even after our country constantly puts Russia down. Trump being friendly towards Russia is one of the best things in my opinion. It makes his supporters like Russia more as well and I believe he and Putin can get along. Hillary will just be a nagger and keep nagging Russia to the point they drop a nuke or five hundred on Europe.
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SeizeForce
08 Aug 2016 08:37 Link
Zen, could you do me a favor and read my pm on Kebir Blue?
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SeizeForce
08 Aug 2016 08:39 Link
I meant, pm me at United Liberty
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Ă–ster Schwan
08 Aug 2016 10:49 Link
Well the reason why the EU wants to continue and bring back trade with Russia is b/c the EU needs this trade of more industrial substances and material that the Russians have almost no problem of destroying their environment in non populated areas. And If you didn't know the EU actually agreed to longer the Sanctions on Russia that were to end in June I believe to end in 2017 instead. Us in Germany had a somewhat friendly relationship to Russia and have been a major importer and exporter to Russian trade.

I dont understand this shit about "Race War" b/c humanity is not majority or major minority fucking retarded rassist idiots who believe that Black people hate white people, Asians hate whites, Persians are war mongering terrorists, Europa is for only whites, Africa for blacks, Asia for Asians, then contradict themselves because they'll say, America for whites or some shit when white Americans weren't a thing until 1500/1600. And it seems as if American believe that what is happening in America means that it is the same for the rest of the world or in Western Nations.

Well that's not the case, and noone is that fucking stupid to allow A FUCKING "LEADER" (dictator) To end the Fate of Humanity just to show another nation that they are "stronger" even though proving that would be suicide. There will always be pockets of resistance for every extreme out there and when it reaches those levels, Coups are born *cough *cough. Got some turkey stuck in my throat there.
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rjwiles
08 Aug 2016 18:32 Link
I am a huge supporter of Trump and I don't believe that a WW3 would happen because of him. America is the most powerful nation in the world and could easily destroy the world if it wanted. However our current gov has displayed so much weakness time and time again over the last few decades that the world doesn't believe in the power of America anymore. The world has learned that the "bear" that they are poking constantly is dead and unresponsive and so they can do whatever they want to us, literally. Trump just wants to show the world we are still strong, smart, and powerful. That we will defend ourselves rather then pay them to kill us. He wants to make America great in the eyes of the world again.

Now on to the race war topic. What is happening is that people are getting worked up over incidents where a cop shot a black man in self-defense. Blacks and liberals are calling the entire police force of the country racist over this. Though groups such as "Black Lives Matter" are saying that the entirety of Whites are racist. They are violently rioting in cities across America and causing lots of damage. In retaliation several people, all black as far as I know (I'm not sure), attacked and killed something like a dozen police so far. All these people were however criminals exacting revenge for being prisoned for their crimes as well as the racism thing. I believe that if half the country continues rioting and accusing whites of being racist for such ridiculous reasons at this rate the blacks will attempt to wage a full out race war against the whites. The whole cops shooting blacks out of so called "racism" is just a excuse for them to do whatever they want and to wage a race war. There is a new group called the "New Black Panthers" for crying out loud. They obviously want a war and plus, the liberals are supporting them as much as possible. The liberals are so loyal to the blacks that if the blacks told them to kill themselves they would definitely do it. That would be something like 100 million or more people. Not all of the blacks are racist of coarse but most of them are. I'd say something like 99% of them are racist towards whites now. So yea, I'm pretty sure there will be a full on race war by the end of next year. I just hope that the whites when or they will all die, including me since I'm white, in a massive genocide carried on by the blacks and muslims.
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rjwiles
08 Aug 2016 18:45 Link
It didn't used to be so bad though. There use to be very few blacks who are racist towards whites. probably less then 1% at one time but now the liberals have gotten them all fired up because they constantly call whites racist. They say for example that if a white cop shoots a black man in ANY situation, that he's racist. even if that black man were to have something a extreme as a nuke that he was going to detonate in a major city and had some kind of handheld mini-gun and juggernaut armor and was shooting at the cop. All the media is run by these liberals so everyday the blacks get a shitload of bullshit saying whites are all racist.So I don't really blame the blacks at all for their hatred. I blame the liberal piles of shit that run our government, news, and just about everything else.
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SeizeForce
08 Aug 2016 22:39 Link
rjwiles, Trump would actually cause more terrorism. Nothing gets more people riled up and angry at America than a man who believes families of ISIS terrorists should be killed. That's from his own mouth.
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Eugene Mac
08 Aug 2016 23:25 Link
You really think we could get the people who want to kill us more mad at us? Doubt it.
You might say it's the people who don't want to kill us now but if we haven't gotten them that mad in the past, Trump won't. Have more people been mad at Russia because what Putin says and they now have more terrorists? No.
People who get mad at what Trumps says miss the point of him saying it - free media coverage, his name in front of everyone (because name recognition is number 1 in politics), all so he didn't have to spend money in the campaign. And the media continues to oblige.
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Ă–ster Schwan
08 Aug 2016 23:38 Link
Ok, There seems to be a problem here if americans start thinking a loud-mouthed rassist, isolationist in the Modern Era would be better than a lying, progressive experienced politician. Seriosly, WTF, the world is looking at the US and seeing if they are this ignorant or not. In most European news they talk about Trump in a dark light, why? Because he constantly puts himself in DARK LIGHT. I doesnt make sence to me, What did Hillary do besides lie about some things that she has or hasnt done? How many times has Trump offended and demoralized people? I have American friends who think simularly to me.

Just ask yourselves, who wouldn't make people hate and/or be hated in and/or out of the US? Just fucking think man!
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Ă–ster Schwan
08 Aug 2016 23:50 Link
T_T Is that what Americans really think.... NOT ALL OF THE WORLD HATES AMERICA, You want to know what made us, Germans the most powerful and rich in Europe (BIP/GDP) and even one of the most liked countries in the world. Because we became progressive, we saw a wall terring us apart, and then when the time came to take advantage of the Soviets "rule". We United, not even CARING what had changed between us. Their learning systems were focused on Russian and German, We didnt care, We just wanted to move together and be one Nation. It slowed our growth for a few years, but when the EU came in and united Europe with 1 single Currency, I remember getting rid of my Deutsche Mark and trading in for Euros, we Europeans wanted to Move from our Isolationist past and move into a peacful United Europe which all together has the Largest Economy in the World with great growth and recovery from the 2008 Recession. You cant just isolate yourselves and ignore any single Nation in the world. Because, chances are, that Nation has something that you dont have and they have something that you have enough of to give to them, That is Globalisation in a nutshell.

Moving away from this is economically and socially suicidal.
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SeizeForce
09 Aug 2016 00:38 Link
Well said Oster.
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Johanas Bilderberg
09 Aug 2016 02:43 Link
I want my government to put America first for once. Spend our tax dollars on our problems.

I don't really care about the rest of the world.
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Ă–ster Schwan
09 Aug 2016 10:02 Link
^^^^ THATS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM T_T YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY HUMANS ON THIS FUCK DUST PARTICLE OF PREEJACULATION. Putting 1 Country first at the expense of sacrificing economies around the world just to ensure oneself if they are "ok" huh, well you know who thinks like that psychologically, Who SHUTS themselves off from the world thinking that itd be better to think to them selves and be by themselves? Depressed Animals and People, If that is not healthy psychologically then why would it be ok for a nation, which is suppose to be the Voice of a People, and an Idea. That is also a condition called Narcissism (Patriotism), or being a Snobby asshole whom thinks they are the MOST important and that they have some sort of lead in everything in the world and constantly use that reason to fight against all odds to get "back in that position". That is ALSO NATIONALISM at a softer pace.... Both WW were started by Nationalism btw.

A touchy subject in Germany, being too patriotic in Germany is not normal. Having pride is. Having too much of that "us first" shit is not normal, dont do it. If you want a good example/examples of Globalization? Ok....

The EU, Germany and France have always had a rivalry and have went to wars many times, alot of the Time was for the area Alsace (Elsass) Which was a part of HRR (HRE), ((Which btw is a smaller scale of the Evolution of Globalization. France just didnt appear on a map, they realized that they had a similar culture and lived relatively close to each other and align between each other, that is also what the HRR did creating unions and alliances that would benefit from trade and bettering human civilization for centuries over. This is just a new evolution stage of Globalization, and people get cut just as in normal evolution who are deemed unfit for the next stage.)) If we had leaders like that in Germany, we'd probably wouldn't exist, we hated the french, (and we somewhat still do) but now we are great friends (shocking ikr wonder what happened, *gasp*, you dont say, this Globalization thing could actually be peaceful :O too... well fuck me...)

Isolation creates wars, just as in a normal human, people who are isolated become hostile towards others whist in some cases using self-harm, is that really fucking normal to you?
Want another example... Look up Feral/isolated Humans and Animals and you shall see the true path of isolationism. ^.^

I'll even go a step further.... North Korea, more than half of their population is starving and/or not eating health amounts of food and clean drinking water because they LIMIT themselves to THEMSELVES.

*News Flash If you did't know, Globalization is for this Pre-cum planet we call home and the people on it, not some land mass that carries an idea with a flag.

**Also your chance to put your country first was when is was created just as any other nation in the world, unless Trump supporters plan on some dictatorial revolution. Makes me laugh tbh and us Germans have a past of isolationism which led to COUNTLESS wars between ourselves in the early days then with everyone else when we realized that we should be fighting together.

Be fucking civilized lel
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William Miller
09 Aug 2016 12:24 Link
The grasp of reality is fleeting in this discussion. Both sides!
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Ă–ster Schwan
09 Aug 2016 17:05 Link
How, what reality am I missing. People want to see America "#1" again, people want jobs and better care and security. I find it funny how a politition (mostly american ones) twist the truth from 1 or 2 words or get the FEELING of SOME PEOPLE (Keyword: FEELING) that things arent ok and they preach that shit throughout their whole entire political carreer, but the facts say way different from what these FEELINGS are. These feelings are as real as my love for some girl I saw in Nahkauf the other day or as real as Kim Kardashians ass, they are there but they are NOT REAL THEY ARE FEELINGS NOT FACTS. Job rates are rising, Economic Growth for america is slow just as in ALREADY ADVANCED NATIONS, And if you want someone to blame blame those retards who were at fault for the 2008 ressesion, if you want to make things better for yourself and your "legacy" invent something and motivate yourself to search across your region for opportunity and what YOU WAN TO DO. Dont sit and wait. That is reality, this is YOUR life dont let feelings of doubt and false hope bring you down all because some loud mouths in politics are Fueling these feelings.

Globalization gives jobs, actually fight for your vote in what you want by contacting members of your Legislative Govt. Dont sit and watch Fox CNN BBC ITV Tagesschau Prosieben France1 and let their journalism predict how you participate in Politics.

The World is doing Great, The world Economy is rising rapidly because people around the world are taking advantage of this Globalization.

You want to hear a story, well when I was 8 years of age, my mother was looking for a job and then instead of getting the job she wanted, a Polish woman ( think it was a man i dont remember) took her spot, she didnt get angry, nor was she disappointed, she just said to my father (bc he was mad at first) that it takes time and that it is best that this (person) got that job than me because they will need it more than I do. And Some shit like "I should be proud to see that they are taking advantage of the no border policy in the EU because they are fleeing poverty" My Gymnasium IT is fucking Romanian and he knows everything about the Computer.

These are smart workers who want jobs, they are aspiring to get where they want to be and for their family. The same thing happens in America but American politcs are fucking like a Drama Reality show tbh... The US should have became a Parlament and this shit wouldnt have happened.
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rjwiles
10 Aug 2016 18:11 Link
And look at what the EU has done for European economies. They are falling apart and they apart from Greece are letting in as many "refugees" as they possibly can who will NOT leave and go back to the middle east. This will be the finishing blow to Europe's economy.

I think America should stick to itself but destroy any and all threats to it's security. Anyone declare war on us like the jihadists, we take them out. We are more then capable of doing so.

Your comment about a parliament doesn't make sense because a parliament is a democratic system that's basically the same thing as our democratic system.

By eliminating the families of the terrorists(not including homegrown terrorist's families unless family proven to have assisted with terror), we prevent terrorists from being made because then there would no one to become a terrorist except from home. We just kill most if not all of the muslims living in the middle at the moment. True American ones (muslims who have been born in America at least two generations down of mulsim families who have lived in the U.S. for two or more generations) can be left alone. No offense is meant towards those. Mulsims who don't meet these requirements should go through vigorous tests to determine if they can be trusted. The reason for this is in case they have come here radicalized or are radicalized via their parents. The other reason for all this is because the jihad, the complete and utter genocide of all nonmulims by mulim hands, is literally half of their religion. Any mulims who don't follow this belief should not be classified as mulims because this difference between the ones who do and the ones who don't follow the jihad is so large that they just can't be classified as the same religion. I think there's a pretty big difference between "I will kill you!" and "I'm peaceful and will help you" and whatever.

Also the whole world is not all fun and games, not all peaceful. Not all human beings are good. In fact 80% or more are pure evil and sin. There are many humans who deserve to die and who would love to kill you and everyone else on this retched planet. It is the mentality that no human is evil and that everyone just simple makes mistakes and should never be kill is exactly what will get you kill. If our government and all the European governments don't stop following this mentality and being such unbelievable wusses, EVERYONE on the Earth WILL die. judging from your posts Öster Schwan you would love everyone in the world to stomp you and your country to death. I sure if one of our enemies such as a muslim told to jump off a cliff, you would skip and squeal with joy to do so. If told you to do that however, you would spit back in my face. In other words you are directing rage at the WRONG people. Your own people, your family, your country, and us Americans. Then you are begging the muslims, Russians, you name it, to pour into your country and burn it, your family and you alive. Of coarse you are especially hoping for us Americans to burn because WE are telling the truth, WE true Americans want and will do something about it, and because of this WE will survive, NOT you wussy fagent liberals.

Hillary Clinton is not just a liar, she is a traitor to our country. She has committed treason by pretty much directly giving classified military and government info to Russia, China, and North Korea, and she did it on purpose. She knew what was classified and what wasn't. She did that because she, like ALL liberals, absolutely HATES this country. She wants to see it burn and our enemies victorious. The reason why the worthless piece of shit FBI director told the supreme court not to press charges was because the government, which is entirely controlled by liberals except for trump, payed him to say that and because that asshole hates trump and wants Hillary to win so he's trying to help her win. Hillary should be behind bars not behind a podium.
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rjwiles
10 Aug 2016 18:25 Link
I have to say though, this argument is kinda fun to participate in.
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rjwiles
10 Aug 2016 18:32 Link
Also Trump did not say anything about killing the families of the terrorists. I think it would be a good idea but he didn't say anything about that. If he really did, pls give proof. Like a link to webpage or something as long as it's not biased.
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Ă–ster Schwan
11 Aug 2016 00:39 Link
Wait wait wait wait.... 1st Priority.) Killing innocent family members of terrorists, how does that sound like any good idea and people who think like that shouldnt be able to vote O.O.

2.) The EU has not been failing overall economically, growth has been slow, Ever since 2008 after the resession. Just as most other countries around the world who were affected by it majorly.

3.) So you are saying 80% of the Human population is "evil". First of all, where is your proof and sources, two, have you ever been outside of your house, yet alone your country if you did you would notice that the 80% shit is straight BS. that means that 5.953.984.760 Billion people, including children, babies (infants), average people. Are evil or with sin.... Test this "Theory" yourself since you seemed to have created it by yourself, Walk outside with a smile and say hello to your neighbours (if you have any) if they look at you and dont say anything then that is 1/10 by far and if the remaining nine do the same you have a percentage, however, THAT IS YOUR NEIGHBOURHOOD/ COMMUNITY NOT the WORLD...

4.) European wusses, hahaha funny. btw we dont let anyone into Europe, the migrant crisis is not new, the only reason that terrorism is seemingly becoming more frequent, it is but not in Western nations as you would think. This is not the worst terrorism has EVER been, The terrorists target their areas to spread Terror to convince people that they are the only way to get their lives back to a normal state would be through them, convince the others that they are on the wrong side using violence and radical ideas. The radical Islamic terrorists, They mostly target and have targeted OTHER MUSLIMS they periodical spread into Christian nations and even Buddhist and Hindu. There have been terror attacks in all major nations at some point.

5.) A Parlementary govt is different btw, If a parlament was in the US then Trump would have never became a candidate. In a Parlement there are multiple parties thay people can choose to relate to and in Germany we vote for two parties, and whom ever the 2 most voted for becomes a "Koalition" which is where they join together to act as the will of the people. There are Republicans and Democrats in America, not as in a parlement like here, CDU/CSU (They are in a Koalition) SDP, die Grüne aka die Linke, Bündnis 90 and there are other parties that can be created if the become organised and recognized by enough people.

6.) This is Trump you are talking about, a man whose words can mean anything and in the real world, is interpreted wrong, lets say by a hostile foreign power, then they can and will find and do anything to get back at your country by looking into weaknesses.

7.) You seem to forget that Europe is the Goddess of war (the continent) through history, we have been at war with eachother for ages, then we finally get our shit together, it works, then a bunch of loud ass right-wing patriots start getting angry and do the most to deceive and corrupt people into thinking that they are on 1 piece of land that can conquer the world. And use the fallout of world economies as fuel to their argument.(Even it was from irresponsible market people in New York and not any ordinary person)

This isolationist trend has happend in history too many times. BUT THESE PATRIOTS ACT AS IF SHIT NEVER HAPPEND. And they ALWAYS have lead to War, ever since Globalization, this has been the MOST PEACEFUL ERA of Humanity.

8.) I just have 1 question for you rjwiles, you do not seem sane at all, especially after what you said about terrorist families. And you seem to not have any basis on Reality. You are one of those people that hear about these feelings and your brain just jumps on that isolationist bandwagon and has no belief in FACTS and Actual CREDIBLE Trends, and that is what is wrong with you Populist-Patriotic- Isolationist- Conservatives.
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Always Ready
11 Aug 2016 01:52 Link
I have no political opinion, only common sense...

You know, "politics" is not the answer but the problem. If you can buy up the whole congress and stop all good means for money under the table, politics can be corrupted completely, and because of that fact, politics are corrupted at maximun, just because it is possible.

I dont want "politics", I want real solutions based on common sense, and you simply dont find common sense in the worlds parliaments today, it simply does not exists there. The real mega-rich people control this earth, they are the real rulers, not our so-called elected representatives, blindly do whatever these rich people tell them to do.

Julian Assange says "1,700 emails in Hillary Clintons collection" proves she sold weapons to ISIS in Syria [Video]: http://theduran.com/julian-assange-says-1700-emails-hillary-clintons-collection-proves-sold-weapons-isis-syria/
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Always Ready
11 Aug 2016 02:01 Link
This world cannot be real, because no living being would act as stupid as our politicians do, it must be a controlled matrix created by our selfes for some reason, and the program still runs the extreme insanity casettes, where everything in the matrix are programmed to go totally havoc sooner or later...