Space trading - Weapons

The heli missile contract has been completed.

Moving onto:-

***25,000 Anti Aircraft Missile Batts. 2,000,000 missiles***
35,000 Defensive Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles
40,000 Mid Range Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles

*** Utmost importance *** - Josias, i'll speak to you about this also, but anyone else able to offer this on the space market?

Batts can be put to one side if the price is steep, but missiles are crucial at the moment.

Need to gain some momentum folks!

before you waste your money on aam, dm, and batts, let me ask you a question.

what is your intended use?

the reason i ask, even with an honest price, this can potentially be a rip off. for the same reason i don't offer navy hardware. i'll explain

when you create a unit, all the weapons and ammo, average, the weapons average, and the ammo averages. when the unit is dismantled, all the ammo retains the new average, and averages again with your stock pile.

so, if the intent is to put these into garrisons, that also contain tanks and artillery. those high rate ammo, will average with the low rate ammo of aam, and dm, bringing the average down. upgrading LAS and LTA, has the same one for one cost, but because of the high usage rate, requires many, many more upgrades, making them, cost wise, nearly useless to upgrade.

this plays true with navies. you can't expect to buy 25K NFP ammo at 450Q, and have 450 fire power, when you add in 330Q of all the other ammo...

to add one extra, indirect thing. weapons and ammo moving to units, via supplies units, will also average with the supply unit, before being added to the fighting unit, and averaging again. that means that if you have low quality supply units, they'll drag down the quality of replacements, but they'll increase the quality of replacement if the supply units are highly upgraded. this is probably the best usage of upgrading LT/LTA as the higher ammo valumns, at a high quality, will have significant effect.

if your intent is to use AAMB and DMB as a part of an LRD, with MRMB and maybe OAAMB, then these HQ defensive weapons can bring up the quality of the more expensive offensive ammo. But you encounter the same problem when you mix them with HT/HA.

just trying to make sure you get what you are trying to get.

AAMB 30,630 413
AAM 3,357,647 370
DMB 28,100 395
DM 3,199,847 369

this is where i stand, as far as having them completed, well, the weapons are 10ish days out, but the ammo is gonna take allot longer

i've got a few tricks to speed it up, but we are still negotiating the MRM price, and if we can agree on a price, it'll likely take over a week to process that.

Intended use is for c3 warfare.

When creating a unit, if both the ammo and batts are 450Q, they're made at 450Q, so i shouldn't / wouldn't have any issues, so i hope.

I do understand what you're saying though, and i appreciate the input. However, i'll be fine on that front. Most of my supply units are at 450Q anyway, so there shouldn't be much of an issue.

I'd need all of the ammo to be at 450Q.

Anti aircraft batts requirement has changed to 5,000. 450Q.
Defensive missile batts requirement has changed to 15,000. 450Q.
Mid Range missile batts remain the same. 450Q.

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Edit:-

Looking to buy 10 mobile helicopter wings and 10 interceptor wings.

Looking to spend a combined total of 85gc.

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Looking to buy 10 mobile missile defence units and 10 mobile air defense units.

Looking to spend a combined total of 135gc.

Anyone willing to trade?

but i'll offer my initial pricing

AAMB base market price, 28.7M
2500 per sale = 71.75B * 4.5Q = 322.875B * 30B/GC = 10.76 * 1/3 (standard space discount,) 3.58GC per sale

How ever, these and DMB are usually min price, so 1.75GC per sale, 10 total sales, brings the total price to 17.5 for the batt

AAM base market price 2.22M
5000 per sale = 11.1B * 4.5Q = 49.95B * 30B/GC = 1.665GC * 1/3 space discount, 0.55 per sale, 400 sales, 220GC

DMB base market price 25.9M
2500 per sale = 64.75B * 4.5Q = 291.375 * 30B/GC = 9.71GC * 1/3 space discount = 3.23GC

but again, these guys are normally min price, so 1.6GC per 2500 DMB, 14 sales, 22.4GC

DM base market price 2.41M
5000 per sale = 12.05B * 4.5Q = 54.225B * 30B/GC = 1.8GC per 5000 DM

2-3M at 5K per sale, is 400-600 sales, is 720-1080GC

and to post the MRM

MRMB 61M
1000 per sale = 61B * 4.5Q = 274.5B * 30B/GC = 9.15GC * 1/3 standard space discount = 3.05GC per 1K MRMB

40K MRMB at 3.05 GC is 122 total sale

MRM 5.95M
2500 per sale = 14.875B * 4.5Q = 66.937B * 30B/GC = 2.23 * 1/3 space discount = 0.74GC

2M at 2500 per sale, is 800 sales, for 592 total sale.

these prices are negotiable, but consider, my price, already has a 1/3 discount added in

Pm'd you josias. We'll talk again tomorrow.

Sunny, what q are looking for on the heli and int wings?

As they're mobiles, 600. Bulk buys is the only reason i'm looking for deals

Still looking to trade via gc before i produce them myself :D

Current requirements stand at:-

5000 Anti Aircraft Missile Batts. 1,500,000 missiles
12000 Defensive Missile Batts. 2 - 2,500,000 missiles
40,000 Mid Range Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles

Further purchases are:-

(mobiles, listed previously)
12000 Offensive Anti Aircraft missile Batts. 2,000,000 missiles
16000 Fighter planes. 2,000,000 missiles
18000 Precision Bombers. 1,900,000 bombs

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All of the above HAVE to be at 450Q. No exceptions. Thanks

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I may be looking into attack helicopters, but i'm unsure of that yet.

That is my current shopping list. Can pay via gc, before i start producing them myself. Will take longer, but might save me the hassle of searching for people to sell them me :D

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I would conduct this trade with you Josias, but only at 150b/gc.

Yes, it is a pain to get that 150b per gc, but it's out there as the best offer available by Aries. The trades we did before, weren't so bad, but now we're moving into expensive territory.

If we did decide to trade on that basis, it would work off as:-

Example.

AAM base market price 2.22M
5000 per sale = 11.1B * 4.5Q = 49.95B / 150b/gc = 0.33GC - 1/3 space discount , 0.23 per sale, 400 sales, 92GC (i'd be happy to give 105 by renting 2 docks off you).

DMB base market price 25.9M
2500 per sale = 64.75B * 4.5Q = 291.375 / 150b/GC = 1.94gc * 1/3 space discount = 1.36gc

DM base market price 2.41M
5000 per sale = 12.05B * 4.5Q = 54.225B / 150b/GC = 0.36GC per 5000 DM (that is without the space discount, for some reason you didn't account for it?). For 3 million thats 216gc. I'd be happy to pay 230 with renting 2 docks off you.

I can understand any frustration, but it's the way of the game. Aries has increased the amount of b per gc, so either it gets countered, or maybe we deal on the above. If not, i'll have to look elsewhere unfortunately / produce myself.

feel free to find some one else, or do it yourself.

in fact, let me help you move on, i'm now offering EP at 210B per coin rate. that should help you along

Current requirements stand at:-

Anti Aircraft Missiles. 1,500,000
Defensive Missiles. 2,000,000 missiles
40,000 Mid Range Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles

Further purchases are:-

(mobiles, listed previously)
12000 Offensive Anti Aircraft missile Batts. 2,000,000 missiles (if not offered soon i will start producing the missiles)
16000 Fighter planes. 2,000,000 missiles (if not offered soon i will start producing the missiles)
18000 Precision Bombers. No bombs needed

Also, i'll only buy EP if it reaches 0.35gc (if it gets that low). Don't see a profit in it at the moment

Close post.

I'm getting all my weapons slowly.

Thanks all.

P.s. If i need mobiles, i'll open a new post.