W3C - Game Upgrade July 29

Looking at "Fresno Assets Maintenance" and others you can see the immediate orders taking effect.

I buy at 220Q for supplies.

When you look at products you can see the market price vs last price paid is around the 2.2 times increase

However, Cargo shuttles and SC main units are 3 times higher then the market price (220Q plus the immediate order request).

Like I said I think there is a snowball issue going on with those high cost high demand items that are causing a hang-up in the system.

To the GM,
I hope I'm not coming across as upset or aggressive, I am trying to help problem solve to make sure we don't have a larger issue.

On LU

There are is 6200 shuttle requested on the market(down from 6600 a few game months ago), but only 700 asset main corporations.

https://sim05.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=tldhist&miKey=273&miColumn=vTradeSurplus

Based each corp orders .25 shuttles or 3 per year the demand should be less then 2100. This means that players are requesting around 4000+ for personal stocks, but since I think corps are ordering many months in advance this supports my theory of a snowball effect.

I checked the purchase list for the corps and the buying in large amounts and much higher then market price also supports this idea(Check the purchase list for corps, you can see it orders dozen or more shuttles in many transactions).

Regardless, I'm open to suggestions on order strategies or similar changes. Extra data or experimentation never hurt the problem solving process

So, all you are really saying is:

1. You want a clarification of what happens when your ordering strategy is low-water mark 30 months/12 month buy if your 12 month order is made and not fulfilled for many months under your low-water mark. Specifically, Is another order placed before the first one is completed?

I would think the way it should work is that if the current order would no longer bring you over your low-water mark once it is completed. In your case, if you still have an order pending for a 12 month supply and your current supply falls under 18 months, your corp should place another order for a 12 month supply. Additionally, if neither order is completed when you fall under a 6 month supply a third order for 12 months is made.

2. Immediate orders appear to be occurring without your permission.

Here's THE REAL "updates":

8 FULLY UPGRADED, PROFITABLE, CORPORATIONS FILLED WITH 119 MONTHS OF SUPPLIES, FULL OF 100% WORKERS, AND 133% PRODUCTION, wiped off the map by " Gamemaster ", because he/she/IT absolutely HATE anyone, anywhere, anytime making ANY Profits. Hypocrites, Scammers, and Abusers.

...

Dos Daily Telegraph, Feb 03, 4751

Country News



Shortage
Citizens are complaining of shortages. The country is not purchasing the products that are needed for the population.
Thu Jan 4, 4751 The citizens of Dos are complaining of shortages. There is a shortage of Military Services and Military Supplies.



Recovering from a Major Earth Quake
Thu Jan 04, 4751 The population of Dos is trying to recover from this disaster
12284 of the wounded persons recovered. 31216 people returned home. 1318 victims of the disaster died this month.



Factory damaged by Major Earth Quake
Thu Jan 4, 4751 A recent Major Earth Quake caused severe damage to Train Tracks Maintenance WG 28
The Major Earth Quake had a magnitude of 8.2. Train Tracks Maintenance WG 28 is very severely damaged. The factory Train Tracks Maintenance WG 28 will be closed down.



Factory damaged by Major Earth Quake
Thu Jan 4, 4751 A recent Major Earth Quake caused severe damage to Quakat Air Transport
The Major Earth Quake had a magnitude of 8.2. Quakat Air Transport is very severely damaged. The factory Quakat Air Transport will be closed down.



Factory damaged by Major Earth Quake
Thu Jan 4, 4751 A recent Major Earth Quake caused severe damage to Polata Air Transport
The Major Earth Quake had a magnitude of 8.2. Polata Air Transport is very severely damaged. The factory Polata Air Transport will be closed down.



Factory damaged by Major Earth Quake
Thu Jan 4, 4751 A recent Major Earth Quake caused severe damage to Montford Air Transport
The Major Earth Quake had a magnitude of 8.2. Montford Air Transport is very severely damaged. The factory Montford Air Transport will be closed down.



Factory damaged by Major Earth Quake
Thu Jan 4, 4751 A recent Major Earth Quake caused severe damage to Madera Air Transport
The Major Earth Quake had a magnitude of 8.2. Madera Air Transport is very severely damaged. The factory Madera Air Transport will be closed down.



Factory damaged by Major Earth Quake
Thu Jan 4, 4751 A recent Major Earth Quake caused severe damage to Kussoto Air Transport
The Major Earth Quake had a magnitude of 8.2. Kussoto Air Transport is very severely damaged. The factory Kussoto Air Transport will be closed down.



Factory damaged by Major Earth Quake
Thu Jan 4, 4751 A recent Major Earth Quake caused severe damage to Greenfield High Tech Services
The Major Earth Quake had a magnitude of 8.2. Greenfield High Tech Services is very severely damaged. The factory Greenfield High Tech Services will be closed down.



Factory damaged by Major Earth Quake
Thu Jan 4, 4751 A recent Major Earth Quake caused severe damage to Melrose Services
The Major Earth Quake had a magnitude of 8.2. Melrose Services is very severely damaged. The factory Melrose Services will be closed down

So, you are ruined because 8 corporations got closed? wow

FILLED WITH 119 MONTHS OF SUPPLIES


O.o

Obviously a vast communist plot to ruin you financially.

We must launch an investigation in the subcommittee of the world council of looking into things to find out which Hypocrite/Scammer/Abuser made you give these corporations 119 months of supplies immediately. There shall be no rest until such a heinous act is dealt with by the full force of an elite team of squirrel commandos.

very late response.

Enterprise Corporations

enterprise corporations were not changed much in the past upgrade.
Nothing that could make a big change in their performance.

however, I checked many enterprises and some have corporations with some problems while others are doing very good.

In some cases there are spikes in raw material cost during trading.
I have shifted some max values during trading, widening some ranges.

I am not sure this was a problem but it might, in time, reduce strong jumps during trading that can increase raw material costs.

we will see where it goes in the next week.

Earth quakes

This example is dramatic and very infrequent.
we have implemented many types of natural disasters a long time ago with a diminishing chance of a very large damage. smaller quakes are more frequent.

We had the plan to introduce more natural disasters but it seemed at the time that players did not have much appetite for any losses due to disasters.
we ended up implementing earth quakes only.

I do not think countries are devastated because of earth quakes.
it can be a small, and in this case a larger setback.

Andy, I believe the issue is with the changes you made to the costs of war. I am saying the problem is readily apparent not in all enterprise corps, but the ones you effected with this change. Please, specifically, look into the corps I specified as run by enterprises. These are:

Military Bases Maintenance
Airforce Maintenance
Def Weapons Maintenance
Off Weapons Maintenance
Str Weapons Maintenance
Military Supplies
Strategic Military Bases
Strategic Airports

Small changes to the cost of weapons indeed.
but:
all corporations using these as materials, are checked one for one to make sure their profitability remains very high.

The potential profit of these corporations is more than twice higher than that of other industries. They are very very large and prone to to more instability when the market changes but none of that happened.

I will however recheck under more and different conditions.

Andy, you don't have to look far. You run a corp called Brown Airforce Maintenance on WG. Let's see you make a profit with it comparable to any other tech company. These Airforce Maintenance corps are also a pain to keep supplied compared to other corps.


https://sim03.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=ccorp&miCorpNumber=5014006

I would agree with Aries

I checked and found even Gamemaster corps that are not turning a profit. I can post the links the the GM ones I found that are not doing well on LU

I am currently experimenting with having much lower supply quality for these corps. I just saw some corps doing this, and I am going to give it a shot for the very few of these corp types I didn't already close. Essentially, I kept my public corps of these types.

Based on some research, there may be a varying supply quality that is ideal based on corp type, centered on the expense of their supplies. The corps I identified in particular here, represent the extreme of the spectrum, but I wonder if other corps can benefit from slightly lower supply quality than others, based on material expense, especially for those run by enterprises dealing with both heavy material costs and country resources used.

Aries,

Please delay the quality reduction by a day or two.

I think I already see some results and changes of quality might may it harder to see the results of our tuning.

Ignorant, Abusive, Presumptuous, and a General Misinformed Immature Selfish Punk named "Aries", apropo to the name, Knows Nothing, Says Nothing of Meaning, and Does Nothing Useful to Anyone, because in ' The Aries Country ', it's All 'SimAries', literally that's what this idiots mind thinks, a complete and total Moron. If someone wants to Destroy Anything of the Assets of'Aries', feel free to Message me, and I will Support your efforts. Less Trash in the World, is inly a Good Thing for Everyone else. Welcome to War, SimTrash, a.k.a.'Aries' the Fraud. Welcome to War. Welcome to the End of you, 'SimTrash'.

You should send him long messages with random capitalizations in it.

He loves those.

Aries, Andy,
My military maintenance coprs are quite profitable except for Airforce, I don't own Offensive. My order quality is 120, first realized this with Str Weap Maint, that corp cannot make a profit with higher quality supplies. The others I lowered because of making direct sales at high quality during shortages.
On WG owner Meliora Holding Company

https://sim03.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=ccorp&miCorpNumber=910061

https://sim03.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=ccorp&miCorpNumber=910023

https://sim03.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=ccorp&miCorpNumber=780025

https://sim03.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=ccorp&miCorpNumber=782065

Gamemsier,
post your disaster log here:
Worst Earthquake?
The game gods don't pick on players, it just happens.
Your whiny reaction to it got the response it deserved.