W3C - Game update coming Monday

1. Military Unit invading

When a military unit is entering your country, a message will show on the war log.

2. War Won

You Won the War - Message is updated. It is now separated from the war news and it is much clearer than before.

3. War related windows and pop ups

Windows are improved and are all in the same style. This is part of a general improvement of the war maps, and war process. All war windows are now black on white and upgraded to HTML 5.

4. Improved war map updating

All positions of military units on all maps are refreshed more frequently and also when any unit crosses the border.

5. War Log

The war log is now completed. Messages stay on the log for 7 days.

6. Space

The location of the Crucis and Lepus space stations is improved. They were partially hidden.

7. Shares

Investment funds of countries without presidents ignore the "Auto Trading" flag and always participate in share trading. These investment funds will participate more actively in the share trading and sell shares when they realize at least a 100% profit on the shares they hold.

As a result, it will now become easier to purchase shares in such corporations which will move them from the gamemaster enterprise to the corporation list of the player - share holder.

Andy

Im sure you of all people will be surprised by this but

+1

These updates are some of the fixes the doctor order.

One thing to, since monday seems to be a day of war fixes would you take a sec and double check weapons Q in units it seems when you create unit the weapons/ammo drop 100Q or more. If you can double check this that be great.

Otherwise good job on these update +1!!! Keep them a comming

The improvement to the share market is very interesting. It's a good economic stimulus.

Members of the Simcountry stock exchange are bringing out the champagne, and lighting up cigars.

Hmmm, I'm not sure abut the share market thing Madoff.

Already I have greater trouble making sure entities that I want to purchase my shares do get them before IFs snap them up.

A corp needs a MV of 500B to IPO, so that corps' shares with an IF investment would need a 1T value. Not so easy, especially for GM run corps. I was sort of used to the IFs buying and selling with P/E.

Dunno, can only wait and see. Meanwhile I need to get some cash back into my CEOs to get trading shares profitably again.

There was always a change in Q when weapons went into military units. The factor used to be 2 (50% when going into the unit and 200% when the unit is disbanded). we explained it several times before.
the reason was that upgrading weapons was much more expensive in the units than in production.

Now, it is about 1.3. It will disappear in the coming months because other parameters have been shored up.

The share trading is improving and indeed, you do not have a guarantee that shares you issue, can be bought by your own enterprise.

when you offer shares on the market you do not know who will buy them and you should not know.

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I dont see why not Andy.

A privatisation in the UK will involve preferred bidders chosen by the Government, and the final purchaser is Govt. approved. Surely this is exactly what we are simulating in Simcountry.

Also, I can work around IFs buying by tanking the corp and trading at inflated prices so IFs are not interested. All this new approach to share trading in this respet is doing is making it more awkward to accomplish what a player wants to accomplish. It doesn't prevent it.

Of course, I will be glad to see more controlling shares of GM corps available.

The improvement is mainly that investment funds will offer to sell shares more often. That will give players more opportunities to acquire shares, including controlling interests.

But it follows that investment funds also will be buying shares more often. Once they sell shares at a 100% profit, they will have extra cash to go on a buying spree.

Since investment funds will increase their buying, that should make it easier for players to do IPOs.

But in the real world, not every country chooses who buys the shares of newly privatized state enterprises.

For example, the US conducted the biggest nationalization in history in 2008 when it acquired control of insurance giant AIG. The government has been selling most of its shares on the open market.

The Simcountry share market is an interesting simulation of an open market.

Our share market has disadvantages compare to real markets.
Example: Inside trading cannot be prevented...
Recent changes made it a little less predictable.

we would like to make it more realistic.
allow private share deals between players but at the same time, make it impossible to predict who will by the shares when they are offered on the free market.

Ok, I can see your arguments, Madoff points out it should be easier to IPO as well. I would point out that AIG wasn't an initial public offering though.

I just wonder about the consequences for the game enterprises. There is not a whole lot of point in offering shares of a corporation on the open market unless it is an effort to raise cash as a one off strategy. You are giving away future dividend for that. Making corps truly public (<25% share ownership - control) could become redundant. For one the rule about countries not being able to buy shares for itself of corps in the country.

But on the other hand I suppose you will be able to set your desired percentage ownership and wait/hope that it will be achieved once the IFs have made their 100% profit.

You say "allow private share deals between players...", can you explain please GM. Is there, will there be, a mechanism for this?

Apologies for carrying on about this but I am concerned about the difficulties enterprises have already and feel they need a more positive theatre in which to operate.

The point of an IPO is that a country or CEO can make a huge profit from a small investment.

It costs about 60-75 billion to create a corp and upgrade it to 200. Eventually, the country or CEO can sell it for 500 billion+. Or its owner can sell only some shares.

It's possible to get the market value of some private corps to 1 trillion+ before doing an IPO. Again, IPOs provide huge returns on investment.

Plus, CEOs can engage in share trading. Buying shares low and selling them high is more profitable than managing corps.

It's a pity that most players neglect their CEOs.

I don't like this at all! I was pretty much going to make the same comment as Crafty. Investment funds already are far too powerful as it is. This will lead to a stagnation of the share market. IF's not liquidating the shares will slow the amount of exchanges, and those of us who control our IF's already have a limited selection, this will amplify the problem, and force IF's to lose money on failing corporations. Not all corporations exceed especially with presidents neglecting their countries. I failed to see a problem with the current system to begin with.

This update would be improved greatly with the ability to IPO premium stock and NOT public stock. This way if I want my other countries IF to buy shares or my CEO's I can without having severe manipulation needed to the corp. I can't simply IPO and say NO!! these shares aren't for you! As I don't intend on ripping off IF's but spread ownership to myself. If I have the money shouldn't I be able to?

On another note. To improve the war game I think priotizing supply units to certain armies would be fantastic

#7 boo
if you want to have share markets more active leave the option to have manuel or auto trade and make it so there is no limit on buy or sell at once

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Yes, it does.

For one thing, valuation of a real life corp (and thus the share value) depends on supply and demand, not on a formula. Yes, individuals can use a formula for determining what they value the stock at. But others can use different formulas, or some other means of valuing the stock. The result is a complex, democratic, vivacious system of valuing shares in real life. Ironically, the real life stock market is much more fun to play than the stock market in this game.

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Sorry Madoff, but thats your outlook on it and not the only one. I like the harmony that can be created between CEO and country and my IFs. I dont build corps to sell them at profit.

I am sure your style is perfectly valid and so this is a nice update for you. For my style I fear it will be unhelpful. And yet again I can see it dumbing down the game more. It is far easier to build and sell for profit than to use the holdings and ownerships, realising higher upgrades, and all the intricasies (sp?) of this management style.

You people just don't seem to enjoy the game for what is anymore. The only goal is making more money. Whatever happened to all the fun in the world?

We always gots our shoe talk to sustain us, Crafty. (SMILES)