Stop, you're killing me.

Andy, for petes sake, stop reducing the price of goods when they are going deeper and deeper in shortage. The price of goods (excepting maybe LTA and LAS) no longer reflects the demand at all. You've already removed trade strategies so we cant ask over produced quality. Please return the market force driven price range.

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It seems like we have a socialist trade mechanism; the nomenklatura determines the price, regardless the demand and supply of the product.

The total profits of all countries:

July 1: 111 T
August 1: 119 T

The profit is stable while the general trend of numbers is down.

Both revenue and cost are declining for the last year. Recently it is hardly noticeable.

within that trend, there are larger shortages and prices went up.

We are also measuring the profitability of 10 different size countries we play and some accounts we use as reference points, and all are doing good.

The down trend in numbers continues at a much lower pace. Most of it is behind us.

I also looked at the numbers in the past two weeks.
they went up first, (no complaints heard)
then started going down.

Andy, why don't you people pick some of the player countries and monitor what happens there versus gamemaster countries?

Andy, you always seem to think I am complaining.
I see your thinking and reasoning and agree. But you could achieve the same end by just giving away $$$. What the current system is doing is taking away all playability. Its impossible to judge what corps to build, normally you would build corps with product in the red, but I cant rely on that as the price is reducing when the demand is increasing!!!

I cant compensate for green markets by selling under Q and for red markets increasing selling price, although it looks as though some ammo corps have been spared the demand/price freeze in line with your previous statements about military.

At this time, while I'm trying to recover my account after ages of not bothering, the options and things to look for are mostly taken away. Years of paying to play here and I have no benefit of my experience, things just aren't making sense.

Ah well, you say its mostly behind us... Roll on that day.

Its funny Crafty asked for help like he thinks they care about us

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i'm with crafty, not in specifics, but in the fact that it gets harder and harder to actually do anything, like we are being pressed into playing the game, one specific way. i mean i get that it needs to be set it up better for new players, but the older players are really feeling pressed.

how is it better for new players to play a cookie cutter game it makes them feel good what non sense when I first joined I was looking for war and share market takeovers I'm disappointed the only reason why I keep playing is because I'm in a cool Federation with some roleplaying that's really the only point of joining a fed now since there's no war ive been playing for like 100 game years and the only combat ive seen is against a c3 but ive realised even if there was more war it still.wouldn't be very good since the war game is rotten to the core

Most all the veteran war players are gone with the exception of the ones here in forum, its not a war game anymore more like a economic business sim now its a shame really

Looks like we're forced to bring in the greens corporation and build all corps to find out if they're profitable even if the market fluctuate up or down on best prices strategy.

50 wars were started in the past 24 hours.
There are days with many more.

All corporations are profitable if managed well and there is no large oversupply.
We know the numbers.

I do understand that the concept of reducing all numbers by a certain percentage, both income and cost is very very hard to understand.
Even some players who know this for the past year seem to have difficulties with that concept.

50 wars in the last 24 hours how many pvp?

How many in the last month
Id love to see how many PVP wars happened per year in the last 4years. BET YOU IT DROPPED MASSIVELY since the war levels and dont say it was vets beating up new players, i just would like the numbers. C3 wars dont count i could start and finish 10+ if i felt like it.

Plus you said 50 where started how many finished

I fully understand you want this and that.
The issue is, there is fighting and war against a c3 country at level 6 - 11 is difficult fighting.

also, 200+ more countries on FB in the past weeks and today, the highest awards ever, will be given to players on FB.

the claims made here about the death of the war game are much older than war levels.
It started with the game and never stopped while wars are going on all the time.

In fact, war levels came about during a big discussion we had about the failing war game and how it was dying.

it reminds me of all the times someone left the game after years of playing and announced that the game will disappear within weeks.
all of you together do not have enough fingers to count such messages.
Then many came back after a couple of months and play again.

This is part of each and every forum and because of this, it is very hard for us to learn anything from these discussions.

repeating the same 100 times is not convincing us at all. In depth thinking of what works, seen from both sides, and very constructive messages from some players, do help.

fighting a c3 is not fun nor is fighting a player since most are just visa warriors and one of the only products in oversupply on WG is wine it currently has an.oversupply of 30 percent and my corporation was making massive massive losses shouldn't it be possible to make a small profit or atleast not billions a month just thrown away

and andy I have a suggestion get rid of federations since they are pointless and just give players a false sense of the war game

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Well I've never really belonged to a Federation other than the one my own countries are in, which means I'm the only member.

I have been known however to ally myself with other federations in a fight. In that case I've had one country in that fed so know when war was declared by or against whom.

If I never ally with anyone a federation at least allows all my countries to provide defense when one country is attacked, and get whatever others in the fight I desire due to auto declarations.

So I don't think they are pointless, but if you are relying on another player to save your butt they will get you killed.

why are there war treatys when only level 3s can play (which there are very few) its a pain in itself to get to level 3

Oooooooooh I loved the whole federation thinggy. That is what made this game so much fun. Sighs....... Long Live FBC/Nueva Vida/Zero Hour! Those were the days!!!! May Bobo always stay alive and remembered in SimCountry and BlueSerpent when he awakes from his sleep. Oh dun forget me either!!!! I was the deadliest of em all! :-P

Hey I gots an idea!!! Let's all dec Andy!! :-P ha ha ha ha

mmmm things have dropped off again

There's a difference between the number of countries started and the number of countries which actually go on to become active for more than 3 days. Spinning numbers won't fool me.

If this game is having a resurgence, it will have it without me. I've been logging on once every 2 days for a month for 5 minutes... Nothing here interests me any more.

T

Yeah, well you are one of the ones Andy speaks of T. How many times have I heard you say that?