What happened to SimCountry? (Little Upsilon)

What happened? This place is a ghost town. No one is in chat, no one is bickering in the forums. This game has turned into an economy only game!
Lets stir up some action people!
Where are the wars we once knew? Surely there is a way to fight wars with all the new changes.

Are ya'll scared or something?
Message me and lets get things going the way this game should be played!

New information must be assimilated first.

im a new player but im here and up for anything really, im trying to fix some kinks in my country right now but soon i should be able to do some wars, or somthing to that regard.

Crafty did it.

It's the fuckin' war levels. You can really only go to war with C3s now, and despite all of my attempts to get a world war started, it just doesn't work.... GET RID OF THE MOTHERFUCKING WAR LEVELS!

How eloquently stated...

You war players should be deploying sneak attacks. Imagine a situation where 100 different countries across all SC worlds are hit with coordinated attacks on the same day...

That would liven things up and I'll even build some ammo corps to assist in the ensuing battles. :p

Imagine a situation where 100 300 different countries across all SC worlds are hit with coordinated attacks on the same day...

Haha time to dig out my rusty old nukes and have a go at it! W00T nuclear apocalypse, here we come!!!

in the attempt to create a game with no losers, we've ended up with a game, with no winners

Josias..... I couldn't have said it any better myself! That is perfect statement, pure genius!

They need to get their heads out of space and come back down to sim earth. Whole game is messed up including the ridiculous 'free' and i cough 'new' players in chat. oh all returnees of course. ha ha ha ha ha or so they say :S

I lobby to keep free players out of forum except beginner's thread and out of chat period. May cut down on some of the nonsense. :-P If peeps wanna create new accounts to harrass paid members, then at least let's make em pull out the credit cards and pay for it!!!

If you want more war build more ammo company
no economy no war no weapon no war no ammo no war

Well if you gave me 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count I'd say, War Levels.


I mean honestly, mathematically, and clearly (not including freeplayers that quit every 2 weeks which they include in their hits per day) we've lost alot of great players including LDI Jason, Serpent is trying to get rid of his countries, lots of people thinking of leaving..


My resolution is a Board of Players with ideas both good and bad Like Elite security Council, where we meet with Jozi in a chatroom and talk about things, and ppl bring their issues to those players as most keto, lorelei Blueserpent, Serpent, Myself, etc, are all very knowledgeable of things that are going on since obviously these updates are only getting ppl MSNing me better $$$ prices for their accounts..obviously, they arent helping as far as long time players sticking to help, and the players i spend MY time on in chat helping with the game ARENT staying but for a few days or weeks, its just lost the addictive factor it used to have not just to us older players but obviously from all the new ins and outs of players and countries going green and then c3's clearly... to new players they see "no bang for their buck" which honestly nore do I. FB War world, we're all just hanging out. LU all war level 0 to make money just hanging out, *shrug* as EO once said, "just ride the wave"


Would be nice to actually get the bad things filtered out to bring to jozi to try to fix through this council and or use these new minds ideas to make better ideas combined with what we already know..


We either help SC, or just go inactive and die like the others, I wanna help, but Jozi, and the other GM team of developers gotta be open and willing to do that too. I remember fun, now half the questions I could answer with exact equations a year ago to a person, I can't even comprehend myself:


Example: Blueserpent and I we enjoy playing Econ since clearly, War game is complete crap and needs redesigning, like it or not GMs it does. It shouldnt be we figuring out how to do something positive for our gaming experience, and then you responding via email or through game news you change the exact thing we just figured out how to do. The example: Pension funds and IF funds, been trying to understand for years, finally figure it out, have a country at 600T in pensions, GMS email and say they will all be decreasing..its now at 100B...or 0 some of mine dropped to Negative's literally the week or so after, and if I recall maybe Blueserpent mailed them or something to learn more, dont quote me on that.


But anyway, Those of us who've been around can find strategies in any shape or form, where you change this, you break that, where you fix this, you completely just open a new way of making way more money financially, where you make these upgrades for weapons which BTW cost 10's of T's of dollars for some of players countries (per country) to get to 200 level just to have those change with supply units delivering less quality goods. to buy 250 quality NFP for months, spending 100's of T's thinking from the game news "Quality will become a large part of warfare" failed to include "Hey those navy fighter planes you are purchasing at ridiculous prices for the higher quality since there were no upgrades, turn into 100 quality as soon as u go to attack with them, I've ran into more problems, then solutions. That can easily be solved..


If perhaps the GMS would get a few of us, stop doing, start listening, and start applying. otherwise, I'm sure I have my SIMcity 2001 version somewhere..At least I know its demographics wont change every month ;)


Just a thought....


That of course will get overlooked just as proposals have for years...some of those n00bie proposals actually after reading through them, are neat ideas, that if given to a few players could turn them into concepts for developers....Hmm..heck you could even pay us in GC or something! or hell I'll do it for free at this point, cause right now all I do is login sit in an empty chatroom, put out loans and watch my countries go up and down up and down...when Ive yet to change anything..

As Staind in a song that happened to come on my Itunes just now says:

"I hope you're not intending
to be so condescending
It's as much as I can take.
And You're so independent,
You just refuse to bend...
So I Just keep bending UNTIL I BREAK!"


So, lets fix this...and get things working correctly. Perhaps if you listen instead of just do things, you'd be surprised how well developed not for self intentions, but for the good of the game, some of our designs ideas, and detailed calculations can be for some of the things that just simply...don't add up anymore...

Like you'd think 250 quality nfp would have a shot at least of shooting some air defense down, nah, I did it on bobo's inactive for 20 some thousand (20,000) nfp, up until my last nfp I lost 400 NFP (@ 250 quality) as that's what I purchased them at, while I dunno the quality of his Ints but he was inactive so, id imagine they couldn't be fully upgraded was only losing between 71 or 110 I believe was the highest (I'd have to check my logs) given, 3 wing response etc..etc..Bu or so up until the very last 400 I sent, I even tried 5 distances. No difference. given this is just one thing, I have yet to read the game news since arriving in California, but that's next on my agenda. god knows what's changed in 2 weeks, I'm almost scared to know....Sad. I used to look forward to game news..now I just like getting my loans back and watching my DT go up. Watch, eventually they'll stop letting us give loans too, then what..

Maybe ill start building countries for people, since I have Quads of Military laying around, If you would Like a custom built country please let me know! Since I've got not much else to do In Game..i'd enjoy helping others get started somehow!


So yeah Though Jumbled up, I think I got my point across...


<3

Learn to swim...before you dive.

can some 1 please tell me 2 things wen u order arms dose the amount of stock it says u hav dose that include deployed weopons 2 an allso dose ammo go dwn even if ur nt at war coz iv ordered a lot more ammo than iv got could sum 1 please anser 4 me as no1 seems 2 anser these things id b very greatfull thank u in advance

Mr. daniel oneill

When weapons and ammo are deployed, either in units or garrisons, those weapons and ammo no longer appear in your country stock. Also, when you have units or garrisons they use a small amount of ammo as 'practice' ammo per game month.

How about we organize several world wars? Maybe if we show them that we can overcome their war level BS, they'll finally get rid of it. Here's what I'm thinking: on each planet, we create several mega-federations, with at least 20 members. We make 3-5 of these mega-feds, and have everybody sign the war treaty. They all get their war levels up to three or four, then turn off protection. One country declares on another, the war treaties go into effect, and the more experienced members who have nukes turn the game into five radioactive dustballs.

That's more likely to prove to the GMs that war levels work and persuade them to retain the concept, than anything else.

Hugs and respect

Jo

jo, are you for or against WL? i'm confused, i've seen your speak out against it, but really wl are in your favor

From what I've heard, war levels were created in the aftermath of a world war to prevent it from happening again. If we can show them that they were wrong, then they might finally collapse to general consensus.

No, Josias, I'm not in favour of war levels. They have killed the war game completely.

I appreciate what the GMs were trying to do when they brought them in, but implementing war levels wasn't the best way to achieve it. I was playing this game before Secure Mode was thought of and, in my experience, it was a lot more fun then! I don't know why you think WLs are in my favour - I've never been a purely econ player and I'm missing the war game as much as the next person.

The knock-on effect of war levels is that they have marginalised federations and the war game. There are better ways of protecting new and econ-only players and I hope the GMs will rethink.

Hugs and respect

Jo

I think as soon as you own and get to at least 5 countries, there definitely should not be any war restrictions whatsoever. Also I think fighting C3 countries is getting much harder ever since they introduced the damn war levels. The higher your war level is, the harder the C3s become, I can't expand my empire fast like I want to, its just ludicrious.

james, the c3 aspect of war levels is GREAT, that is, once you learn how to c3 raid.

jo, in an effort to not re-open old wounds, i'll leave some of what you said, alone. but you are right, war levels not only dimish feds, but nearly eliminate the political game.

the flavor of Sim Country has changed. its still fun, but the depth of the game has gone. its allot like when Coca-cola came out with "new coke," it was suppose to be so much better, but people hated it, and finally we got "classic coke," war levels have taken away way too much of what made this game great. give us back classic SC

I agree, Josias. The C3 aspect of levels is a very good idea. The PvP version not so.

The best way of convincing the GMs to go back to 'classic' Simcountry is if the players come up with better viable alternatives, which achieve what the GMs wanted to achieve, but more so and without the negative effects that WLs have imposed.

Hugs and respect

Jo

I an an econ only player and like war levels.

Sorry to hear war levels has "marginalised" the federation part of the game. @jo

Perhaps as I suggested many times before only players at war level 3 or higher should be allowed into a federation. The number one function of a federation is mutual protection of it's members. How can you allow a war level 0, 1 or 2 player into a federation when it can't protect you? Not right.

And make all worlds a war world over a certain level. Go ahead warmongers and knock yourselves out.