W3C - Expected Updates This Month

it was so much better back then (*sigh*)

ok Sweetpea i will do what u say an come find u since u want it that

way...1..2..3..4..5...6..7...8..9.....10

you're boring me to death.

U win

i lose

is that what u think is going to happen
u think cuz u have kingdoms on

all worlds u can just call an say everyone a noob huh?

(+)if only u knew(+)

Nothing wrong with being called a Noob, Nepty. I choose to forever be one. :-)

less talk moar war neptune!

all this hot air is making me dizzy

CC, circumventing the war levels so Super can declare on lower level presidents makes the entire system null and void.

If the player preferred econ, he/she would have stayed at level 0,1, or 2.

If supersoldier wanted to help his mate, he had two ways of doing it.

a) stay at war level 3.
b) move the player up to level 3

The player is at level 3, so we can assume that he/she did in fact venture to the war game and wasn't purely econ.

Super chose to move to level six to avoid fighting with me at level 3. He made his choice. Now why is it right for him to decide which level 3 players to fight with.

Why can't the two level 3's have a fair fight.

Now super knew the consequences and I am sure he weighed them when he decided to move up. He has demonstrated here that he was very familiar with the concept that if he moved up, he could not support his fedmates directly.

The fact that super did this tells us two things. One Super likes to provoke, but doesn't want to face the consequences of such acts. Super avoids fighting experienced players, and prefers to intervene against an inexperienced one. Even though his fedmate has the benefit of added air defenses, and the experiences of his fedmates like Super.

The fact that Super moved up in the war levels without considering that his fedmates could be directly attacked and may need support, should be a clear indication to that player that he is in the wrong fed anyway, as super was more concerned with himself, and not for the potential circumstances of his mate.

Keep in mind this is the same super that produced so many tactical nukes he decided we should be able to use them on forts. Always self serving requests. This is no different.

All players can move up war levels. There is no prohibitive measure in place that stops this player from using the same means of avoiding war that Supersoldier used so well himself. and if that player moved up to level 6 with Super, he could help him/her all Super wanted to.

Again this is a Super problem, not a game problem. To all feds that feel they are in this position, advance the players you wish to help to your level. The game should be going forward, and that is another means of promoting the fed interaction you guys say is missing so much.

Super just wants to fight a n00b that is attacking his n00b. That doesn't even begin to make sense for the game. You should not be able to hand select which level 3 players you want to face, if you moved up war levels to avoid warring a level 3 player.

Supers mate will learn 2 things. Move to a fed with players who can support him in the event of war. Or advance himself up the levels to where his current fedmates can support him. This is the logical solution. Super made his choice, and now his mate should too.

What is wrong with those two players just having a fair fight anyway? That mob mentality always at work.

'cause thats the point of feds. Why even have the auto dec clause for feds then?

By moving up to WL6 SS has exposed himself to higher level war players attacks anyway.

Anyway, none of this effects me yet, so I'll say no more.

My Point being just that crafty.

I know the risks/rewards for moving up the war levels but they limit fed mates abilities to defend each other. Sure they still share air power(which is always helpful) but the main advantage was the ability to have a dozen or more people auto dec the attacker. Im not asking the GM to remove the war levels or to make so massive tweak. Im simply stating that when in a fed, and if the war dec is signed i should be allowed to help my ally. What if several higher war level players got into a fight and a lower war level wanted to help. Should the game tell him "NO you are to noobish to help" or should that be "HIS" choice to help his allies?

lol, this i really funny. their not gonna change the WL restrictions for Feds... it would undo about 80% of what WLs have done. in fact, most players would be safer alone, if that was to happen.

mean, they originally where going to let fed wars go through like normal. but they though better of it, probably rightly so... i remember a few evil plans we had, back in the day, to abuse the WL system

Why were the WLs introduced anyway?

To protect the new and vunerable, right?
Well, that was 'abused' by many a war experienced player when the short term armistice was offered and players reverted to WL 0.

But what would that have to do with fed wars huh? New and vunerable players do not get involved in fed wars. It's only going to effect someone who starts wars with feds. If the defender wants a one to one they only have to ask the fed to stay out. And if it were a fed member of mine who causes the war then my fed would probably be instructed to keep out of it.

Sorry. I was going to shut up but seeing another voice on this made me have to have my last word.

Do you want me to smack Orbiter, Crafty? Nothing would give me greater pleasure. ha ha ha ha

Yup Orbiter had a few evil plans back in the day, cuz he was the "evil one". Well move over, Orbiter, because there is a new kind of evil in Simcountry and it's extremely wicked and it is ME!

Got Drama?

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

i could get a handful of WL9+, get a WL3, WL5, WL7, and WL9 in my fed. and just get the little guys to antagonize fights with fed that would be clearly, outmatched.

i'm not sure that sup really needs to be villified over his position. but their are 2 sides to everything. war levels are probably neccessary, for atleast a couple more years, but thats my opinion, and you know what they say about those!

To further Crafty's point tho... war levels were to protect new players (Although Id argue that there was not many abuses of vets ganging up on newbies anyway, but that's another conversation). Well, they are protected so long as they stay in war level 0,1 and 2. IMO after that, they should have to pay for WP. If war levels are here to stay, and Id agree with Orbiter that they are, then FB is the way they should be on all planets.

Thats my $.02

I love how Orbiter goes out of his way to purposely ignore my posts. I derive such pleasure in that! ha ha ha ha

He fears me, it is evident. :P As he should...

if i say anything to you, you have a panic attack. best just to walk by quickly, and pretend not to notice.

You dun give me panic attacks, Orbiter. You confuse that with gas. ha ha ha ha ha Just be careful when you try to walk by quickly, I might just casually stick my leg out to trip you up. :P And I'll pretend not to notice or giggle when you fall flat. ha ha ha ha

Happy Weekend!!! lol

Smile!!!! :-)

I came here for the popcorn.

The point is, super will conclude quickly as he always does that whatever w3c does to please him will never be enough.

I said when war levels were introduced, it wouldn't stop there. They gave them to you, they gave you blackouts, and still, none of it is enough. When does this end. All this suggestion and manipulation of the GMs to change the game to suit your every desire is one of the most obvious reasons this game has suffered.

Nearly half of the players who cried for war levels quickly disappeared right afterwards. Nearly every returning member that has come back has been sorely displeased with this new version of the game.

I applaud the gms for trying to improve the game based on player input, but this has to be the worst road they have gone down.

Look at the game from 5-6 years ago. Every player here from now and those from then that left after changes would prefer that version of sim over the one we have today. And all the coding and hours put into these changes amounted to a pissed off player base.

The constant requests for change won't stop. Spoon feeding players like super exactly what they want has in turn created an atmosphere of whining until you corner the gms into changing something. I stated that back when this started, and the accuracy of that statement is stunning in hindsight.

and to clarify, I am not trying to vilify Super either. I am just pointing out the need to take some responsibility for the choices he made. It really should be that simple.

And to your point CC, I find it amusing that the higher war levels are being used to avoid war.

LAGUNAAA! Long time no see. I hope you are steering clear of all those austerity riots

Wendy its been 3year i mean at this point its kinda obvious, you want the superduper. Im free on the weekends, just saying.

Anyways i agree with serpents post. the worlds should be FB style all the way around. FB should then be dropped to 1-11(pretty much as it was before war levels). Also it they should reset anyone who wishes to go back to war level 0.(who all know who i speak of).


and make me war level 11, im to lazy to do it the right way.

Keep dreaming child. You're free on more than the weekends, and I don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone.

Rejected...

Popcorn and backscratchers for sale, all worlds

Okay, in general I'm not big on pvp and have yet to do it on SC. I am trying to figure out what exactly the problem is (as super sees it). Is it that he can't send units into his allies country to fight, or that he can't attack the original aggressor? Because I think he should be able to do the former, but definitely not the later.

@SweetPea~ You really need to not bottle your anger up so much, it'll give you hypertension. You need to let the rage out every once in a while, you know don't be afraid to show some emotion sometime. ;)