W3C - War Competition World

Work is now in progress to create a small world that will be used as a War Competition World.

It will have as few countries as possible with a manageable economy. A minimum of 1000 countries and a max of 3000.

It will be completely separated from the other worlds. No space transports, no money transfers, no products coming in or going out.

You will be able to use your gold coins but no cash you have.
A new booster will allow you to exchange gold coins into cash
directly from your country.

War will be open for everyone, independent of war levels.

Every war win (PvP) will count as 100 points if you add the country to your empire.
It will count as 25 points if you decide not to to add to your empire.
The loosing account gets -10 points.

If a country is conquered, the player can continue with other countries in her empire, if she has such countries.

We will add a war ranking list on all worlds.
It will be a good addition on all worlds but in the war competition world it will be the only meaningful index, showing the war performance of the countries.

If this will be popular, we can start more such worlds.

Most features of the game will remain unchanged,

Negative cash will cause all purchasing to stop.
Loans will not be available.

You can, as it is now, issue orders for more cash than you have but once deliveries take place and your cash becomes negative, orders will become impossible.

Details may of course end up a little different but this is our current working idea.

We will open the world for registration at some date.
You will be able to register but the world will not run.

Then, at a previously announced date, it will start running.

6 months per real day?
or 8, 12?
we are not sure yet.

Sounds like fun.

Yes! Do you need to be premium member?

Once this happens will war lvls on other worlds be changed back so at least 2 maybe 4 c3s can be fought at same war lvl ?

Hi Andy,

Just an idea.

Can you make corporations indestructible, you could only damage them until 99%. This would allow to conquer countries multiple times without having them to rebuild completely. I think during the fights players will target corporations a lot to stop growth and this feature would mean that you can quickly repair economy after fight without having to rebuild from very zero.

Make a new Peaceful world that runs 12 times a day please?

I hope we don't fall into the trap of creating too many worlds. Creating a world can seem exciting at the time. However, each world separates the player base to different planets. Multiplayer games like SimCountry draw their strength from player interaction. Dividing the player base between lots of separate worlds, makes that more difficult.

If anything there are too many worlds already. For example, there are a limited number of players that have Enterprises, and an Enterprise can only have Corps on a single world. By separating the CEOs to 5 different worlds, it means there are far fewer CEOs per world. This then restricts the opportunities for many different Presidents and CEOs to work together.

Lord Mndz: Total war, scorched earth.

@ lord mdz

That sounds like a terrible idea. I really hope they don't implement anything like that.

@ Daniel

Yeah you're right. There are already to many worlds, lets hope that in the future they mix them together (I can dream right?) But this war world sounds like a good idea. I'm going to try it out.

Letsie, Andy,

I certainly hope so. Having 4 non-war Worlds, that are all pretty much clones of each other, (with very slight differences), doesn't make much sense. Especially now that server technology has improved so much, there is less of a need to separate activity between many different servers.

I wonder if it would be technically possible to "merge" existing worlds together. For instance combining Little Upilson & Golden Rainbow into one world, and Kebir Blue and White Giant into another. I imagine the maps could be stitched together to create the "physical" planet. Merging the two world markets would be disruptive at first. However given how C3s are far better at restoring balance to markets now, it would correct itself over time.

Players with existing Empires and CEOs on both worlds would have to be grandfathered in terms of Country/CEO limits per world, so that nobody lost any Empires/Enterprises they had built up.

I'd be very interested to hear if any of this would even be technically possible? Given programming constraints etc.

Signed President of DanNation on LU

There are now 5 worlds and we cannot merge.
We experimented with moving countries to a different world in the past and it was not good, not easy and everyone complained.
We hope for more players to populate these 5 worlds.

We will not add more permanent worlds, just small competition worlds that will reset after a preset period.
when the competition is over, the winners will be rewarded and the world will be destroyed.

Then, we can start a new one for a new competition.

We do not think players will do only competitions.
most players like the open ended development, with or without war.

The war competition will be open for all but:

you need to register for this war world and it will require gold coins.
you can remain a free member but your population will be limited and there are some more free account limitations that might or might not be a problem.

For most of it, free members will be able to compete but pay for inclusion in the competition.

We have not decided if free members will be able to win the $ 200/$100 and $50 awards.
maybe smaller numbers.

We will refrain from changing the way the game works in general.

Changes are only aimed at separation from the other worlds resources and exchanges.

Andy,

Thank you for your response and clarity. It's a pity we can't merge worlds. However I understand that it would be a technical minefield. You've got one new Player in me. I recently became a Premium member. I plan to be a part of SimCountry for a long time to come.

Signed President of DanNation on LU

I will play the war world for the experience it will help me in other worlds.

$200 Cash GM Andy? into my bank account? Hmmm??? I nearly destroyed my eyes fighting for the principles of Mother Nature against the Coalition of Capitalist Tree Haters in the war program....Hence why you don't hear much from me these days....$200 a month or 2 GM Andy? I fought for 20 hours a day 7 days a week for over a month fighting the Coalition of Capitalist Tree Haters due to two being from the USA 1 being from Europe and 1 from the UK....What do you do about the time zones bro? Mans gets no sleep when the USA come online lol
Edit....I know there is such a thing as a gentleman's agreement, we will fight at a time when both are online....but I also know there is no love in war apart from the love for the reason you are fighting.
Edit....And unfortunately these days, too many man love the money lol
...And honor is a luxury mostly afforded to the extreme rich or the extreme poor.
Edit....So maybe fighters could tick the hours they will be online and the algorithm comes up with suitors to those hours?

Hope I'm wrong but I can see this new war world being manipulated

thou who makes multiple accounts shall reap what thou sow... hehe

Some horrible ideas, like an econimically stable worlds like now or in the future at 12 ticks per day is a game year a day. That's 365 game years in one real year. Two hours ever tick. Four Hours is enough for me; and any serious player. To note: the worlds are there own generating economy, they are similar in their own rights but at the same time different. They are incentive for players to increase and expand there empire on those worlds, and again why does space exist? for orbiting around the sim-disk? Ok. Easy for players who have not played on the worlds; or ever really experienced other economies and profiting from it. Also to note: i dont like putting my CEO corperation in president country's as i dont enjoy their bogus if they decide to leave the game; or not take care of the country. Suddenly raising taxes a good one. I just like to fill the C3 with my corperations .


i believe premium member would limit though not fully the multi account use.

Also to make the world 12 months a day will speed things up major in a war world; such as repairs and corporations being destroyed. It will make things a little different but not by a long shot; on regular simcountry worlds that should keep at 6 months, as that is enough for players to maintain a stable economic reasonably every 4 hours; as they can increase their load to increase their game play. The competition world i just do so to update the game so fast, such as navy takes a month to move a fleet so speeding up the game makes this a little more manageable; as the world is made for war competition, not economic use.

That in mind also, need to make a war for there to be very quick payment/income for players to buy weapons as soon as possible. Any strategy/payment plans will just collapse as players who are more experienced in earning cash will see a bigger result of military increase and development to support military to take over another country. That being so it learns toward only experienced and players who used certain economic tacts to build solid, otherwise impenetrable defenses in time other players stagger to get some fighter planes.

Alot to read.. but trying to make point the competetion world should be 12 months at most for effectivity of units and upgrades, also make income as easy as possible; as the target is to get a high war score; not sim cash. Makeing sim cash easy to get makes a war score a target.

We did not decide to run 12 months a day.
we will discuss this with those who register in that world.

as to fighting day and night, we have a feature that allows you to define blackout periods when no attacks can take place.
it is part of the war game for a long time.

Everyone will be able to play but there will be a fee for the competition.
if you start multiple accounts, you will pay multiple times and then, if we find out, ....

If you find out ? And why a fee for something we already pay 12dollars for ?

The fee is to cover the cash rewards of up to 200 dollars.

Yes I know Alfonsocsr.thats(the money) what's going to cause the most problems with this idea.my question was more directed at why do we need to pay a fee for something that is supposed to be part of game we pay for

Thanks for your reply Andy 4 hour blackout though bro? Fair enough if your attacking a country with 1000 air wings and max garrisons. If your opponent starts attacking you 10 hours before you can log in you might be able to get some air wings back up and fight back. But a newish country with both defensive and offensive capabilities to buy and set up, a sustained attack over 5 hours without being online to defend it and it will be all over? Unless the country you get when you start has enough defense to sustain a 7 hour sustained attack?
But 4 hours bro? Like I said bro...When the other-side of the World comes online mans don't get no sleep when in War.

Hey Andy, I am just wondering what do you think about these suggestions to be implemented into the game sometime soon.

We would like to see some more need Indexes to grow the country better and safer for all like,

Police Index
Crime Index
Gods Worship Index in order to keep people happy
Disaster Index like rain, snow, hot summer days, winter days, etc.
Good vs Evil Karma Index
Academy School Index for higher research
Black Smith Index to improve the Army better quality

There are seven things I can think off to improve our gaming system, the other one Im thinking off is to put in some stats for health, strength, intelligent, good and evil stats, government ranking officers per level which comes with high levels of income to the country resources,

if you can think of anything else please let us know, thats all i can think off for now.

Thank you.

So, what will happen to FB?

It will continue to be EffBee. Fearless blue. Hopefully this world will be monitored closly and if not should have a better log system for checking multi players. So the war system can be ensured more fairness.

T. Wo,

Fearless Blue can be downgraded to "war world light". I guess we'll have to call FB, Frightened Blue. Hahaha XD

To be honest, I do find it a little odd, that there is all this effort to build a special war world. Largely because War Protection on Fearless Blue has gotten too strong. I mean, it's Fearless Blue, it's meant to have war and carnage, why not reduce war restrictions on the "War World". For Players that don't want to expose themselves to war. There are still 4 other planets to choose from.

Signed President of DanNation on LU