The Little Upsilon Legislature

see i'm all good with you trying to get people to back off. thats fair. you wanted to give a chance to do his thing.

but instead of addressing the issue, or even asking me what i was talking about. he instantly began defending his system. take a look, he had allot of chances to just address my issue, but instead, of even asking for more info, he side stepped the issue, and displayed blind faith, in a system already riddled with lies...

i mean, think about it. he is displaying blind faith, in his own creation. rather than trying to identify problems with it, and resolve those.

so instead of offering a comprehensive system. he's offering a system, that its own leaders, and founders don't understand. they just blindly believe, in there lifeless creation.

i'm not trying to stop him. however, i do resent him setting up a bunch of accounts, including inactives, and low interest players in his government, that never actually cared enough to join. then use this fake momentum, to dominate, and control the rest of the players to following bureaucratic system, that is already to large and unwieldy for his own abilities.

yada yada yap yap.... irrelevant nothings falling from your posts....

Did you say something? Oh, nothing that really matters. At least to me. Cya in another 10 real years.

I get to work read the forums, who do I find? A huge smear campaign at the hands of orbiter and Crafty. All I did was go through the different regions, and nations based on their empire, and set them up in a seat in the legislature. This is a "world government". Once I completed it, I was then going to email all the nations with seats, and let them know that they have been appointed to the seat in their respective regions. If the nations was not interested all they had to do is reply. If no reply they sit in the seat until the gms remove them from the game completely if they are inactive. I don't claim to run LU. I am simply stimulating political, military, and economic cooperation. I am not good at diplomacy I can agree, but we have a secretary of State who generally would handle matters like this. I appreciate Wendy eloquently clarifying my motives in this game. I don't have ghost accounts because I have to great a task in managing this government to waste time with ghost accounts. Your question Orbiter was not legitimate. Your question was loaded. All you tried to do is make it seem as if nobody is interested in this gov, and I am alone running this government to make myself look important. I would not even spend my time. I would be a nut case for doing that. As far as being Wendy's puppet, well, I do not have a puppet master. You speak of transparency. If I was not transparent, I would never post in the forum, and just build this gov behind closed doors, and once everyone was ready, we could have militarily one by one picked off all the nations who would not join, but this was not the case. So you are grabbing at the air, and really orbiter, I think you are jealous because you alone can't stimulate a fart out of your crapper. I apologized to you, and you took my apology and wiped your A$$. So, now, here we are. Are you the new Stuart or what? I did not dodge any question. If you knew how the government worked, which I showed you how it worked, and you still persist. I am also getting threats from you and crafty as well as members of my fed. I wanna thank Wendy, and Kiss for being the voices of reason, and I personally thank you. If you don't like me Orbiter, all you had to do was vote me out of office when the elections come up. I have a premium account, and I am not afraid. you feeling froggy, Obiter, jump. I am done, and will not reply unless asked a question from Wendy or Kiss.

well, scroll up, who started the exchange between us in this thread?

o thats right, it was her. and for some reason, i'm suppose to just take it up the arse, with out defending myself?

"Your question Orbiter was not legitimate. Your question was loaded. All you tried to do is make it seem as if nobody is interested in this gov, and I am alone running this government to make myself look important. " hezze

but you side stepped the entire problem. rather than asking me what i was talking, or any information, you simply dismissed me, and claimed no flaw to your system.

you, recruited people, and when you thought you had enough strength, you claimed that your government was set up. how ever, the problem is, that... well, how many people actually signed up? no body really knows, and from your reactions, you don't either.

basically, you are either lying, to look more powerful, or incompetent. the orignal question could have been addressed. it is YOUR side stepping hezze, that has taken this, this far.

I personally believe Hezekiah has lost his legitimacy to lead the government. We need to impeach him. Look at al the drama he is causing just by not being diplomatic or answering the people's questions. These nations are having a massive government imposed on them, and at least we can do is level with them. Hezekiah is incapable diplomacy. I am loyal to you Hezekiah, but I think your time as Secretary General is coming to an end. This is just my personal assessment. Please don't cuss me out like you did orbiter, ok Hezekiah?

yawns...

Josias stalking kiss on 25 different threads and in the course of his petty remarks he name drops Wendy and Blueserpent...

neither did anything or said anything in his pursuit of Kiss all over 25 different threads in the forum, but he has to include others in his petty mind games and stalker mentality.

I repeat, Wendy and blueserpent had no part in Josias little head game and Josias is just a trolling flamer and is doing it so well that even newbies took notice. And here I thought I was the only one.

But I am done talking to him. This is why I rarely have any small talk becuase he puts on a good face earlier in the threads talking about chess servers I pointed out to him, but all along it was just a setup for a bait into his petty theatrics...

Poor him, what a victim... and he threatens me with stories of his past conquests beating up inactive accounts and gang style bashing of n00bs and unsuspecting players. While he and ALL of his cohorts one by one eiather started over or raised there war levels to avoid having a war with me.

So I have nothing else to say to him becuase he is as phony as they come. His games are see through and I know where this lands. In an email to the GMS claiming I am tarnishing his so-called reputation.

I'm done with this fellow. Find some other highway traffic to play in. This road is out in 500ft....

The end.

and wendy, their is a very big, bold, flashing difference, between what my wife did, and you did. you followed me around, and bashed me, every where i posted. she stated her opinion, once. based on what seems so very obvious to her, that it is funny

and back to the personal attacks. i did not attack kissy first, in this thread, or any of the last dozen or so times we've gone around. for some reason she seems to think that because she's a girl, i'm suppose to just let her be as nasty as she wants, and get thanked her for her sweet presence? what?

and so we come to this question. why are you supporting some one that isn't afraid to deceive, in order to rule?

From: Israelite Empire
To: Nation of Edom
Real Date: 04-12-2012 17:27:59
World Date: May 15 3071
Subject: Treason!!!
Message: You little Punk!! I brought you in to this game, and the government and showed you how to play, and this is how you repay me. Wait to we get to church saturday.. I can't believe you. Once this is all over, I am setting up a vote to get you out of our fed, and then I cam going to set up a vote to have you removed from your post in the government. And I am going to ask the Secretary of Justice to summons you for treason, and have you kicked out of the government!! Think I won't try me.

This is what Hezekiah sent me. Some leader...

Yaaawns... misery loves company... and I don't have time to hang out with ya today, tomorrow, or never.

CYA <3

so for some reason, while the question, was, and still is, why is hezze using players that didn't sign up for his government?

i mean, the how, has been answered. but what next?

in order for their to be a world government, the government its self, has to offer accountablity.

the personal attacks on this thread, are only meant to distract from an already shady leadership!! if their was nothing to hide, their'd been no reason for the rest of this drama.

And King Herod, repent... for the Kingdom is draws nigh.

King Hezekiah as with any zoo you visit, don't feed the Animals so goes the same in internet forums...

Don't feed the trolls and sooner or later they'll just go away.

And Josias, there is a very big, bold, flashing difference, between There and Their

Figure it out.

aww, ya, thats right, lets build a world government, that doesn't offer any transparency, or accountability. instead, it claims members, whilst they are unaware, then the leaders use their rep to build their own power base, all with out the individuals approval, or even knowledge. but some how that is righteous.

further, when discrepancies are pointed out. rather than seeking information, and a resolution. the response is basically, the run around.

even further...

"So you're threatening them for simply playing the game and incorporating all members of little upsilon...wow. " wendy

"Your hating of the LU world government is just making its legitimacy more widely known." hezze

"You are apart of this world aren't you?" C Mag

so it would seem that LU world government, is effectively claiming to rule LU, and me via proxy. it doesn't seem like i have much choice. even if i don't sign up, they are still going to enforce their rules on me.

so ya, i think that i have every right to challenge them to be honest with their thing.

i'm not really sure, wendy, of how you of all people can stand up in the forums, and make personal attacks, in defense of an obviously shady act.

if you scroll back up, my question was originally very calm, and polite. it wasn't until getting the run around that i felt the need to force an answer.

Orbiter,

I quote: "for the record, if you look at each of, what? the last 6 times KoD has gone off on me. its because she attacked me, and brought up the past. i'm not the one following her around the forums. i'm not the one that keeps doing this with her. infact if i try to blow her off, and let things slide, it makes her even madder!

I won't apologize for my posts. None of them. I'm not angry either. I was disgusted by the exchange in what I saw, but certainly not angry. I stand behind what I pointed out above. I'm not going to argue with you, Orbiter. Everything above speaks for itself. I don't feel a need to defend myself here, at all.

There is no reason for you to defend yourself at all to me, and my posts were not attacking at all. I was just making observations. Just saying.

Love to you all,
Kiss

tell you what, stop going off on me like you did above, and we wont have any problems! if you do, i will defend myself. pretty simple, huh?

And where, Josias, did I go "off" on you? Am I not to point out on what I deem wrong here? I think you are overreacting.

good enough, now that you've had the last word, can it be your last word? you certainly have every right to post, but you've made your point. i got it!

so much talk almost seems like time for a "systems test"

I think it's working well. Everything has come out loud and clear. :P

BTW, we all do really love each other!!!

Hez, where you went wrong was to make your list including people before you asked them, thinking that you would ask them afterward. You can't do that with any credibility mate. You should have contacted people first and then made your list.

Simples.

An apology to myself and to Orbiter is in order for doing this. I know you apologised for name calling but I think your fed/organisation whatever it is should apologise for mishandling its mis-appropriation of peoples names and the feds they represent. This, and your attitude about the whole affair, is what I am pissed about.

I agree crafty. I personally told him that this is a form of plagerism, and identity theft.

ive had ENOUGH OF THIS bullshite......im starting to get angry ENOUGH...LET this thread die