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Brcdude
17 Mar 2014 03:49 Link
Okay my two cents here, since I have recently become a Security Council Member. I know that we should be helping out new players as much as possible, but throwing aid money out to players like a bachelor throws hookers out of his house the next morning is not going to help anyone. So here are my criteria that I am personally going to use for voting, and I encourage you to use the same:

1. I will not vote for aid to any country that hides their military and financial info-defense and defensive indices are the only exceptions. If they want to keep it secret regularly that is fine, but when they apply for aid they need to disclose financial, offensive, and strategic index info if they expect me to come to a conclusion on their aid vote.

2. I will not approve aid for any nation that has a population greater than 60M people. If your population is this large then either you can take care of your own investments, or you have a problem with managing your country that cannot be solved by throwing money at it.

3. I will not approve aid to any country that has military assets valued at more than 50% of the value of their corporate assets. This is quite obvious.

4. I will not approve aid to any nation currently at war with another player or at war with a C3 if they already have 3 nations in their empire.

5. I will not approve aid to any empire with 5 or more countries.

6. I will not approve aid to any nation with an offensive index greater than 50 or a strategic index greater than 15. If the financial index is also higher than 140, I may make exceptions to this.

7. I will not approve aid to any nation with cash holdings above 4T minus loans.

8. I will not grant aid to any nation with greater than 8T in debt unless they demonstrate that they will be using the money for productive economic purposes.

If these conditions are met, then I will do a brief review of other indices, but unless I find something particularly alarming, meeting these qualifications should warrant a "yes" vote from me if you request aid in the FBSC. Also, if you meet these qualifications and would like an aid request sent in, message my nation "ABCountry" and I will personally propose an aid request for you provided that everything checks out.
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Alterd Carbon
17 Mar 2014 05:47 Link
I don't disagree with you in principal with your rules but. I must say that every country is different. Mistakes are made things happen. God knows years ago I made plenty back in the day I remember being 20T in dept. You have been playing for a wile so you must remember how hard it is to start in this game. Just because you managed to get yourself on the security counsel Dose not mean you can Dictate The rules as to who gets game cash.
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Christos
17 Mar 2014 11:45 Link
I see it differently. The money is just sitting there being useless. Why not give it to someone who needs it? The game already has rules (e.g. being below Game Level 3) for aid eligibility. This game suffers from lack of active, long run players. Why not encourage people to stay in the game and learn how to play it? After all, 2T will not buy anything significant in terms of arms and ammo, but will seriously help build an infrastructure. Anyone who asks for this kind of amount clearly needs it and is no big of a threat to world stability lol.

That's why I never voted no up to date for aid in the Security Councils I'm in (FB, LU and KB). Now, if prices fall to a point where 2T can buy you 10 fully equipped 330Q stealth wings, then I might reconsider and look more carefully lol.
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Josh
17 Mar 2014 13:31 Link
what Brcdude said for the most part but I also see the point from both of you also.
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RAM
17 Mar 2014 16:46 Link
agree with general layout of what brcdude said altough the exact numbers stated seem too harsh
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RAM
17 Mar 2014 16:49 Link
but still disagree with idea of " no aid to you if you are growing your military" , its understandable if in other worlds but in FB its not logical.
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jojo21
17 Mar 2014 17:17 Link
Each case should become cause by case bases. My empire and La Republica del Bandoka is an example of that. My empire has trillions in debt and at least a moderate contributor to the world economy. Sorry but La Republica del Bandoka isn't. At had no loans and even tho the money is sitting there I think the SC should have standards. And far as keep players if their was more diplomacy between the empires then maybe people will stay. We can have 41 nations vote in the SC but lack diplomacy. That's what also prevents Player vs. Player wars.... That what keeps the game interesting. The gm gives us the tools to do this its up to us as players to use them. (sorry for the rant)
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SirSmokesAlot
17 Mar 2014 20:17 Link
I will put anyone up for aid that asks. No matter how much military or population a country has. If they need it they will get it. Brcdude has his own beliefs on how the SC should work and that's fine. Anyone in need of aid can ask me for it :)I'll do my best to keep up with requests.
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blackmoon8297
17 Mar 2014 22:50 Link
if the SC is sitting on trillions why not help the less fortunate nations? #justsaying
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Josh
14 Apr 2014 15:41 Link
less fortunate nations should post for aid
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craigwilliamson79
17 Apr 2014 17:31 Link
I have no country on FB (just an enterprise), but in general I agree with Cristos and Alterd on this. We don't need to have really high standards on giving out the cash, and it is just sitting there...