RSPCA (Fearless Blue)

Drop the name protection kiddies and I will remove you from the map.

Come now we have business.

Guru

A member of RSPCA Federation has declared War on a member of my Federation.
By treaty Arion Empire is at WAR with RSPCA.

RSPCA is using a game bug to try to win the war for them.
Most honest players agree it is a bug in the game software and is to be fixed to use it is cheating.

RSPCA is CHEATING

RSPCA will be defeated, If they chose to go ahead with this war I will not be stopped in removing them from FB.

V/R Lasher. Arion Empire, SFO Allied Forces, FB.

Ive used this bug after wild and I were declared on by a gang of players with over 100 decs. My name changes were defensive in nature, after the fact, and geared towards preventing further decs from aggressors.

I never did, nor would, use the bug to offensively declare and isolate a player like this.

But, as I said I have used this bug to survive, never to kill.

This is the war world however....

Either way it is WAR and I find myself on your side.

I will not use this bug, my weakest countries will be in war protection.

I will fight them with every resource I have and call on every favor owed me. I will not stop until it reaches a conclusion that I am comfortable with.

There will be no quarter given that I will find myself fighting them again and again.

I will contact you we need to plan.

V/R Lasher

Well here is Danneh Turner's country stat break down if anyone needs it. Enjoy.

Country Name	Nukes	President Name	Member of Federation
		Danneh Turner (Total)
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	Yes	Danneh Turner	Gadsden Maulers
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	Yes	Danneh Turner	Gadsden Maulers
Rep Devon blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA
Rep Scilly Isles blatant bug sploit blatant bug sp	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA
Rep Somerset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	Yes	Danneh Turner	STD
Rep Dorset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit b	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA
Rep Pembroke blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA
Rep Liege blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	No	Danneh Turner	Gadsden Maulers
Rep Cornwall blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA
Rep Namur blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	Yes	Danneh Turner	Gadsden Maulers
Rep Hampshire blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA
Rep Carmarthen blatant bug sploit blatant bug splo	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA
Rep Monmouth blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA
Rep Hainaut blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	Yes	Danneh Turner	Gadsden Maulers
Rep Glamorgan blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA
Rep East Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	Yes	Danneh Turner	Gadsden Maulers
Rep Paris blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	Yes	Danneh Turner	Gadsden Maulers
Rep West Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	Yes	Danneh Turner	Gadsden Maulers
Rep Walloon Brabant blatant bug sploit blatant bug	No	Danneh Turner	Gadsden Maulers
Dragon Riders blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	No	Danneh Turner	STD
Beckham Land blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	Yes	Danneh Turner
Republic of Strathclyde	Yes	Danneh Turner	RSPCA

Cont.

Country Name	Population	Corporate Value	Total Employed
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	17,771,853	0	7,874,138
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	17,771,853	0	7,874,138
Rep Devon blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	20,512,898	784,155,498,750	8,044,155
Rep Scilly Isles blatant bug sploit blatant bug sp	40,567,254	6,268,347,312,922	17,308,589
Rep Somerset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	21,200,262	100,579,513,133	8,693,208
Rep Dorset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit b	19,585,759	0	7,445,190
Rep Pembroke blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	22,505,886	93,621,043,200	7,719,510
Rep Liege blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	18,440,353	123,388,383,293	8,167,265
Rep Cornwall blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	21,769,252	876,253,644,800	8,894,391
Rep Namur blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	19,415,989	92,616,899,404	8,681,935
Rep Hampshire blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	17,687,793	0	8,000,458
Rep Carmarthen blatant bug sploit blatant bug splo	20,015,388	0	6,553,474
Rep Monmouth blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	17,706,985	370,263,552,000	6,586,733
Rep Hainaut blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	29,620,293	696,863,998,216	12,098,907
Rep Glamorgan blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	21,743,425	0	6,677,100
Rep East Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	19,736,151	93,625,760,179	7,992,368
Rep Paris blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	17,203,486	348,005,504,000	5,733,987
Rep West Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	16,667,631	278,497,024,000	6,282,399
Rep Walloon Brabant blatant bug sploit blatant bug	18,408,293	0	5,703,709
Dragon Riders blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	7,055,097	0	1,567,122
Beckham Land blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	8,128,206	0	3,392,654
Republic of Strathclyde	91,843,727	27,426,295,442,682	46,446,478

Cont.

Country Name	Total Unemployed	Total Income	Employed Officers
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	684,332	62,416,318,170	244,372
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	684,332	62,416,318,170	244,372
Rep Devon blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	1,802,305	52,537,495,034	229,339
Rep Scilly Isles blatant bug sploit blatant bug sp	2,940,447	132,779,542,274	212,479
Rep Somerset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	1,427,728	64,964,218,666	213,576
Rep Dorset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit b	1,241,081	56,689,028,008	215,204
Rep Pembroke blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	3,076,730	58,652,314,607	189,489
Rep Liege blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	696,868	74,926,605,020	189,378
Rep Cornwall blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	1,591,600	62,139,334,261	190,094
Rep Namur blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	671,960	77,763,214,393	183,572
Rep Hampshire blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	600,458	61,617,394,193	180,875
Rep Carmarthen blatant bug sploit blatant bug splo	2,930,610	44,049,187,565	165,770
Rep Monmouth blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	1,779,816	45,467,704,964	155,848
Rep Hainaut blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	2,478,068	121,351,400,275	140,053
Rep Glamorgan blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	3,732,341	49,862,449,748	140,609
Rep East Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	1,487,805	76,122,648,658	126,640
Rep Paris blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	2,598,163	86,699,019,180	126,995
Rep West Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	1,668,437	65,833,693,319	111,881
Rep Walloon Brabant blatant bug sploit blatant bug	2,492,027	40,088,082,172	111,506
Dragon Riders blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	1,502,071	24,092,223,844	66,263
Beckham Land blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	264,457	43,175,622,562	38,863
Republic of Strathclyde	2,061,709	418,851,332,656	765,171

Cont.

Country Name	Employed Soldiers	Employed Army	Total Production Value
		(T) 17,044,545
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	761,514	1,005,886	228,839,965,689
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	761,514	1,005,886	228,839,965,689
Rep Devon blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	643,602	872,941	208,675,272,491
Rep Scilly Isles blatant bug sploit blatant bug sp	640,918	853,397	638,680,814,625
Rep Somerset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	591,253	804,829	238,443,007,961
Rep Dorset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit b	577,950	793,154	171,924,335,835
Rep Pembroke blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	564,935	754,424	219,574,396,457
Rep Liege blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	560,431	749,809	229,823,858,484
Rep Cornwall blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	558,584	748,678	246,141,959,039
Rep Namur blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	549,687	733,259	290,907,367,625
Rep Hampshire blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	502,333	683,208	251,419,856,454
Rep Carmarthen blatant bug sploit blatant bug splo	494,462	660,232	166,457,058,037
Rep Monmouth blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	463,568	619,416	211,313,353,650
Rep Hainaut blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	428,881	568,934	369,013,293,936
Rep Glamorgan blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	422,008	562,617	164,565,402,500
Rep East Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	428,888	555,528	223,554,051,828
Rep Paris blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	393,072	520,067	155,990,570,206
Rep West Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	400,444	512,325	163,637,345,618
Rep Walloon Brabant blatant bug sploit blatant bug	333,417	444,923	159,104,273,854
Dragon Riders blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	201,563	267,826	22,530,369,936
Beckham Land blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	153,248	192,111	133,888,791,381
Republic of Strathclyde	2,044,682	2,809,853	1,643,719,231,597

Cont.

Country Name	Total Assets	Value of Military Assets
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	1,588,576,055,933	0
Rep Limburg blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	1,588,576,055,933	0
Rep Devon blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	2,120,214,682,660	0
Rep Scilly Isles blatant bug sploit blatant bug sp	8,169,812,840,187	0
Rep Somerset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	1,668,814,409,726	0
Rep Dorset blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit b	570,838,346,037	0
Rep Pembroke blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	1,247,937,292,314	0
Rep Liege blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	1,257,607,430,932	0
Rep Cornwall blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	1,436,139,076,000	0
Rep Namur blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	1,134,398,260,979	0
Rep Hampshire blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	2,211,919,907,392	0
Rep Carmarthen blatant bug sploit blatant bug splo	1,352,897,728,566	0
Rep Monmouth blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	1,651,605,142,034	0
Rep Hainaut blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	2,305,516,672,918	12,610,775,192,824
Rep Glamorgan blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	733,903,799,792	0
Rep East Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	2,352,419,500,176	0
Rep Paris blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit bl	1,790,226,830,958	0
Rep West Flanders blatant bug sploit blatant bug s	1,724,223,733,729	0
Rep Walloon Brabant blatant bug sploit blatant bug	1,082,767,852,449	0
Dragon Riders blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploi	-3,873,764,905	0
Beckham Land blatant bug sploit blatant bug sploit	137,618,247,633	0
Republic of Strathclyde	195,782,537,697,381	0

Enjoy.

T

Ive used this bug after wild and I were declared on by a gang of players with over 100 decs. My name changes were defensive in nature, after the fact, and geared towards preventing further decs from aggressors.

I never did, nor would, use the bug to offensively declare and isolate a player like this.

But, as I said I have used this bug to survive, never to kill.

This is the war world however....

Long names do not prevent war declarations activated by war treaty; they may, as you note prevent declarations from aggressors. There is no moral high ground here.

I had no war treaty, so that is a moot point

How can you have a war treaty with yourself?

The countries in your fed who signed the war treaty are involved in the war.

Sometimes, I feel like shoving a stick up everyone's arse who is using the bug. But then I remember I can't do shoving and writing bitching at the same time.

I forgot to mention: I can actually declare war on countries with the bug. Don't try my patient when you are only one day away from salvation.

.

deleted.

The great Gurus introduce this tactic to our idyllic war world, then try to tell us when and in what manner it may be used. Not possible ... Prometheus has passed the torch, and it is now a known feature of the game. And obviously one intended by W3, or they would have fixed it long ago, right? It's not cheating, let alone CHEATING, unless there were a prior agreement among players not to use it.

using something that so oviously defeats the point of a WAR GAME, should, well, when things go this far, the contest has devolved from friendly competition, to just plain cheap tricks...

i'm sorry, but using a bug, is cheap, and it makes me sick, theirs a point of fighting some one you don't like, and pulling out all the stops, but their is still a line of common decency,

to say W3C thinks its ok to do, or they woulda fixed it... when their are tons of things in this world that aren't a crime, does that make them "OK?" Their is no justification for bad behavior

Aye, alas I am likely responsible for this tactics spread on this world and for that I have kicked myself many times. In moment of weakness I did it halt further decs on me.

When I used it I was wrong and likely didn't even need it to survive.

To see it used OFFENSIVELY against friends who may potentially loose assets is upsetting to me. Ill personally cover any loss tres may suffer.

Its hardly a feature lol. Its a gimmick to limit risk.

Either way it seems as though danneh is not attacking tres so that is hopeful.

Dont I know you from somewhere Jo Jo?

"used offensively" - you're going to have to explain that one Wrath, the only possible thing long names can do is act defensively as a device to slow down retaliations. At the (offensive) war declaration stage, long names do not prevent reverse declarations via war treaty, so there is no offensive gain.

Treasurer has already carted off the 10M sellable pop from his country and I think we all know that the assets that are at stake are a tiny blip in his vast fortune. This is nothing to do with material gain anyhow.

Yeah, the long names thing is irritating me too, I had hoped that W3C would have fixed it last week like the game news led us to believe, but they didnt and Treas' newb protection wore out yesterday so the die was cast. Jo Jo and Josias both have good points, but for me the clincher is that I dont believe 100% that counter-attackers wouldn't do the same thing with their country names, so I'm staying down at their level.

He who declares first is acting offensively, he who is declared upon is reacting defensively. being declared upon then changing your name increased your survivability. Changing your name then declaring on a player increases you winning likelyhood.

Thats how I see it anyway.

I'm as guilty as you basically. Either way it doesn't matter. Just a game. The die is cast.

Ive exploited a nuke bug in the past and players have payed dearly because of what I(and friends discovered). I have mostly regrets now about "bug sploits." Once you hit a certain level of capability bugs, like nukes, are likely not needed.

Enjoy your war.

OK, I made an offensive move by declaring against Treasurer, but long names changed nothing at the offensive stage.

Sometimes there's a fine line with these things, like declaring on a C3 simply to stop an opponent declaring/capturing it is also really a sploit. It might not be a bug because the code does what the devs intended it to do, but it's certainly a sploit because the code is being used for a purpose that it wasn't designed for. I'm not criticising anyone for using this, just noting it.

The name thing once again wont stop someone who knows what they are doing from declaring war on anyone - do I need to prove this?

Oh Great Jozi in the sky... please deliver said upgrade on said tuesday (that's tomorrow, btw. hope you aren't forgeting that) correcting said country name bug said Laguna.

Diego Maradona, one of the greatest football players of all times. What is a most famous for? Cheating! Do not be known for cheating but for how good you really are. Play the game in the spirit it is intended. To have fun with your friends and your 'enemies'.

prove it. declare on a country that is not on your border.

this one, its mine and its a junk C3...

The United Kingdom of Poparmo777777777777777777777.


If its not on your border, declare and tell me how and Ill give you $5T.

Barney

edit: Danneh isn't cheating IMO he is just aggressively using a glitch to achieve an end. If my messages indicated he was cheating that wasn't my intent. he is stacking the odds in his favor surely but not cheating.

Im biased danneh. I consider tres a friend so naturally I will be grumpy when I cant directly intervene and assist him.

Just ignore me.

So then it's not an issue. Though sploits and bugs add a certain charm to the game.

Toad? Eh, I'm an ant.

The United Kingdom of Poparmo777777777777777777777.


If its not on your border, declare and tell me how and Ill give you $5T.


I'm in, but I'm not spilling the beans, so I guess I don't get the 5T.. ahh well

Post a GC(or 2) and Ill give you the 5T. Just having proff that a work around exists is worth while.

Barney, not necessary, I pulled out 10m in pop and im just having a little fun slowing him down. I had nothing in it anyway, just a glorified c3 with some extra pop in it. I'm just using this to learn his tactics for next time.

And Dannneh, you knew what I had and knew I couldn't even scope out what you were bringing against me after you declared due to the "sploit". I couldn't use any radar planes to see what you had "under the hood" because you were using the "sploit" offensively to keep me from seeing what you might be bringing in battle.

I'm not bitter, I know I will lose this little country and am resigned to the fact that i will get another and come after you, but using straight up tactics and not your "sploit"

C'mon Danneh, you cant take this thing after four hours of trying? Dude, you disappoint me.