| Will Walker | Thursday, October 24, 2019 - 07:21 pm 
Built a new Advanced Quality Products firm because I'm sick of waiting on the market. Reserved 2 units of its production as a test (I'm leery after the production plants bugs), then tried to sell it to a company I want to upgrade that had no upgrade orders pending.
I was told that my Enterprise had no corporations that could use quality upgrades, nor could my enterprise?! o.O
So I tried to form a contract, same deal. |
| johnV | Thursday, October 24, 2019 - 09:14 pm
Both corp upgrade products can only be bought and sold on the World Market. |
| Will Walker | Thursday, October 24, 2019 - 09:44 pm
Is there reasoning behind that? |
| Lord Mndz | Thursday, October 24, 2019 - 10:06 pm
Yes, it is ment to prevent max updating corporation at once. |
| Will Walker | Friday, October 25, 2019 - 04:45 pm
Is there a reason you can't throttle such sales by checking to see if it has orders pending for 2 units, and/or has already received 2 units in the current period, and if so block the sale?
You know, like you do for ordering the things in the first place? |
| Lord Mndz | Friday, October 25, 2019 - 06:06 pm
I think only Andy can answer how this can or cannot be coded, I trust they found the best way how to deal with this.
When I started playing this game we had to order upgrades manually, there were no such thing as auto-ugrades and all that was fine. |
| Andy | Sunday, October 27, 2019 - 05:39 pm
You are right. They are traded on the world market only.
Corporations purchase them to upgrade. They stop purchasing them when they are fully upgraded,
them purchase them from time to time when the upgrade level goes down once in so many months.
These products are used to change the corporation.
Not for the production process and are treated differently. |
| Will Walker | Monday, October 28, 2019 - 03:42 pm
You've described the system, I'm curious about the motivations behind the design choices, but I'll move this to suggestions. |
| Andy | Friday, November 1, 2019 - 03:20 pm
Corporations purchase these products although they do not need them for the production process.
these are not raw materials.
we automated the process and made corporations purchase them when they are upgrading themselves.
so the products have a special position in the game.
Not sure I would do the same now but it works fine and changing it will cost a lot of work, ending up where we started.
doing all this for no effect, does not seem a good thing to do. |
| Will Walker | Friday, November 1, 2019 - 04:04 pm
The major difference between the new position and the current position is when there are supply shortages (which there are 100% of the time).
The reason I want to be able to contract quality upgrades to my own corps is because I'm sick of waiting for delivery and don't have the capital to build quality upgrade corporations sufficient to sate the market.
Plus, quality upgrades companies don't make a profit. (100% hiring, 112% productivity, has not once shown a profit despite prices being at max the whole time.)
That said, "Fixing this legacy design choice is too much work for right now" makes sense to me. |
