| Vladian Enache | Tuesday, October 8, 2019 - 07:41 pm 
So this corp is set to sell at +30 over quality,
Start at 353% of the market price
market price is The latest Market Price: 55,272 SC$ per unit
shortage is astronomical
this is what it actually sells
Mar 05 4309 66,592 302 158,103 SC$ 52,352 SC$
Base price 52,352 SC$ ?!?!?! this is problem 1.
The product is sold instantly. However, 353% with
base price 52352 = 184802
base price 55272 = 195110
at both base prices (who knows which one is correct ?!) its way below received price : 158,103
as a result this corps, where supply is 15 and demand 240 (millions), at quality upgrade 200 , make losses!
there is someting hugely wrong here.
the only explanation is that they didnt sold at 353%, as instructed
lets not talk about best price, you go -2B profit per month in a fully upgraded corp, with standard 300 salaries, producing 100% every month, selling products instantly on a 15:240 ratio supply/demand market. |
| Vladian Enache | Tuesday, October 8, 2019 - 07:54 pm
another exaplanation could be that this is a country only product
and countries can go miraculously -1 trillion in stock while not buying anything on the market because apparently +30 points over quality is to much ? |
| Vladian Enache | Tuesday, October 8, 2019 - 08:09 pm
Mar 05 4309 66,592 302 158,103 SC$ 52,352 SC$
158103/52352 = 301%
so what exactly trail quality setting is ? it seems it does not work
either make it work or review all products that have aberant results like this one
thanks |
| Vladian Enache | Tuesday, October 8, 2019 - 08:13 pm
so i checked some other corps, with different products
Mar 04 4309 74 289 1.84M SC$ 641,136 SC$ Market Sale executed.
here it sells at 287%
product quality is 289
settings is sell at 329%
so basically selling over quality does not work, at all, overall.
lol |
| Vladian Enache | Tuesday, October 8, 2019 - 09:36 pm
order posted 2 game years ago, still not filled, by country
HighTech Assets Maintenance 125491 units best price 120 May 01 4307 -646,222,391
however corps orders seems to fill just fine.
so to resume
Problem 1: Sell Strategies trailing quality by +X are not executed.
Problem 2: Countries go -millions stock on Assets Maint, Off weapons maint, etc and dont buy anything over quality price
Problem 3: country buy orders dont get filled for game years |
| John Galt | Tuesday, October 8, 2019 - 10:11 pm
I have noticed the same issues and only use best price. Some products sell for less with trade strategies than they would at best price as you have discovered also. |
| Vladian Enache | Tuesday, October 8, 2019 - 10:22 pm
lets move over that trailing quality doesnt work, we established that lol
i understand that there must be some mechanism against cheating, for blocking money transfers via inflated sell prices
but that can be easily countered by executing hugely inflated price buy orders against the lowest sell offers, not the matching ones |
| Andy | Wednesday, October 9, 2019 - 08:12 am
The price you ask for, quality+X is obviously what you want.
the buyer may want something else and there is no trade.
The trading system does not force anyone to buy for a price they do not want.
so quality + X is frequently too high and it does not sell.
Countries use weapon maintenance products to maintain the army.
They purchase these with your purchasing strategy and may, or may not get the products.
There are severe shortages on the market.
Transactions going for market price are the easiest to predict.
The numbers shown for supply and demand are only quantities offered or requested at market price.
Others offers and requests are not added to these numbers or otherwise it will be very easy to manipulate.
Buy orders at a very low price can sit there for ever.
shortages cause other orders to be delayed too.
If there is no product offered, there is no product purchased.
If you have a "strange" corporation you want me to look into, give me the names (World,Country, corporation).
There is also a Buy Old procedure that will remove products from the market for a very low price if they sit there for "Years".
Products become old and cannot just remain there. If you offer a product for a price that is too high it can end up "Old".
The trading system is as old as the game and works correctly. We had many extensive tests in the past many years and it is OK.
The way it works however, depends on market conditions and on the collection of orders and offers currently on the market. |
| Vladian Enache | Wednesday, October 9, 2019 - 08:14 am
you say :
The trading system does not force anyone to buy for a price they do not want.
so quality + X is frequently too high and it does not sell.
but the products sell instantly ! however they sell instantly at quality price not at the strategy price! |
