| T Mac | Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 09:28 pm 
I'm The United Kingdom of Megnotta on WG, I placed an order for ammo upgrades back in november of 3289 still hasn't been filled and it is Mar 3291. It isn't that large of an order less than 1 mil.
tmac |
| T Mac | Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 12:08 pm
I still can't seem to get ammo upgrades. I have changed the buying parameters, the quantity, the q, it has been real weeks that my orders go unfilled. I have cancelled previous orders but if I don't buy immediately, I never get my orders filled. Im on - WG, countries affected: United Kingdom of Megnotta, The Grand state of Basilka, South Basilka, Tutonic Knights. |
| Rage Fury | Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 07:07 pm
Had this problem as well. My solution was to import AQU from off world and build my own corporations. Meanwhile my order from February 01 3289 is still unfulfilled. |
| Andy | Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 05:18 pm
You can check the market.
the shortage is more than 500 million.
some are buying very large quantities. You can see the market movements on the utilization graph.
You can make the order immediate (more expensive), or indeed, create a corporation and make them. |
| Rage Fury | Tuesday, September 2, 2014 - 07:57 am
My country purchase finally went through. Proves system is working just fine to me. Interesting enough the current quoted White Giant supply is about 82 million. Problem is my Ent on White Giant is offering over 130 million. Obviously the current supply numbers are wrong and by a good bit. |
| Andy | Tuesday, September 2, 2014 - 09:23 pm
The numbers of offered and requested products can change every minute.
The system counts frequently during processing and shows numbers on two different pages:
one (the utilization page) shows what happened in the past (game) month.
the other, the supply and demand page, shows the grand total of all outstanding orders and offers.
also, orders and offers at a fixed or set price are not counted.
The reason is, that if counted and taken into account, it will be very easy to manipulate the pricing by placing very large offers or orders, at an unrtealistic price, influancing the balance while these orders and offers never trade. |
| Rage Fury | Wednesday, September 3, 2014 - 05:12 am
Ok then. Why is it I can and have, bought Cement on one planet at rock bottom pricing and sold it at the maximum game allowed price for a manual sale on another world?
Same for Selenium, Other Food Products, Stone, Wine and so on. I am not new to this, but i am new to selling ammo upgrades...
If it is unrealistic and never sells, then how come I was able to sell all those other products in the same exact fashion and how come Corporations can sell at a higher price than even my manual sales? Maybe I am not understanding what you mean by unrealistic, but shouldn't the market decide what is actually unrealistic? Maybe it is, I certainly don't know what goes on behind the scenes.
I don't have to sell my Ammo upgrades, I can most certainly hold on to and use them myself, I am just trying to get a better understanding. |
| drys0013 | Wednesday, September 3, 2014 - 06:02 pm
fixed price orders only count when executed, but andy is saying if you order construction @ 5B units and put in a min price, if the order is not honored it does not count against the supply and demand until it executes. because I can put in orders that are at unrealistic prices compared and make a shortage for a short time and cancel my order. The game is trying to prevent market manipulation issues. Since it is not in the fixed price range it counts it as if you have never ordered until the order is fulfilled. It would be the same as a conditional contract; never counts until the conditions of the contract are met. |
| Rage Fury | Thursday, September 4, 2014 - 03:37 am
ahh, I get it now. |
| Andy | Saturday, September 6, 2014 - 03:46 pm
Thank you drys0013
Also, to explain how the market decides:
The price can fluctuate, based on supply and demand, at some range around the base price.
This is why, when there is shortage for a long time, it stop increasing.
The main problem we have with a completely free market is that it can force players to purchase at a price they do not want to pay but due to the automatic trading, it happens.
So market orders always remain within the minimum to maximum range. Quality makes it more complex, but many are specifying quality these days. |
| Rage Fury | Tuesday, September 9, 2014 - 06:51 am
Got it Andy, thanks. |
