| Lord Mndz | Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 08:30 pm 
Considering all major improvement made to countries I think it is also a time to improve CEO gameplay.
Countries had ~50M population and they have ~130M now which let to improve profits significantly also defense costs have been reduced so that further improved their economic situation.
Currently I have >700 corporations in my CEO and it is hardly making any money while a single country with 250 corporations is making much more.
What could be done to balance this situation better?
- Remove corporations max limit
- increase number of corporations build in your own countries
- reduce fixed costs only CEO is paying
- remove government cost of having many corporations
- improve numbers of people employed
- increase total production > there are so huge shortages in the worlds
- increase total production of public corporations
- increase spending limits
- add more trading options, like selling and buying depending on price on the market
- add bonuses of using local/common trading market
- allow to switch production for 10 corporations per game month without paying
- add bonuses of using materials produced by own CEO corporations
- allow sabotaging the countries and corporations
I can probably continue with many more items, but I hope that this is giving a clue what I would like to be improved.
Please feel free to add more |
| Andy | Saturday, August 3, 2019 - 03:58 pm
Nice little list here.
I will look into it. |
| Lord Mndz | Saturday, August 3, 2019 - 04:42 pm
Thanks Andy. If you could briefly describe how do you image CEO role in general I could list more ideas to support that.
One more thing from the role part - maybe CEOs should be public(CEO would be like a holding company in real life) and have their own shares listed on the market. Countries would buy these shares, get some dividends of the profit, participate in communication/trading with the CEO. Public Ceos could not be abandoned but sold if account is dropped and would have many bonuses to influence the markets. |
| Jamesthefair | Saturday, August 3, 2019 - 10:06 pm
Nice ideas Lord Mndz, I also think there should be more functions of being a CEO. How about setting up a CEO headquarters in a country somewhere, of where you can get some bonuses or reductions to your corporations depending in which region your headquarters is located, since I have the vast majority of mine in the Windsor region of the virgina bella continent of Fearless Blue. |
| Lord Mndz | Saturday, August 3, 2019 - 10:23 pm
Thanks James, if I need to vote for one option I would probably vote for trading system.
Trading system would allow to buy and sell goods based on market price. This way you could produce all goods to the Ceo, while CEO would only sell that when price is high enough. The same with buying materials, - CEO could buy when price is low and distribute these goods to corporations cutting the cost of materials. This would also allow CEO to bakance the market and would introduce competition of buying/selling strategies. |
| Michael | Sunday, August 25, 2019 - 09:54 pm
Those are great ideas Lord Mndz. I am all in favour! |
| Lord Mndz | Monday, August 26, 2019 - 05:28 am
Thanks Michael |
| Lord Mndz | Friday, November 15, 2019 - 06:49 pm
Andy,
Would you like to increase production queue of new corporations for CEO from 10 to 20? Most people like me join once in a day and if I use booster it could build me 6*3=18 corporations instead of 10 per day.
I think longer production queue would encourage people to use more boosters. |
| Lord Mndz | Friday, November 15, 2019 - 07:04 pm
One more:
I think that CEO IPO criteria should be relaxed. Now there is no difference if CEO or a president of a country wants to perform a public offering. CEOS need to pay much higher taxes and salaries to be competitive therefore their IPO criteria should be released.
My suggestion would be to change P/E Ratio to 50 or even 60 and reduce value of corporation from 300B to 200B.
Please see the comparison of the same Services corporation below:
I think having in mind recent updates in number of CEOs player can have, they should also have some advantage.
I think these few small changes would make me want to have 4 Ceos. All I want is a little bit of advantage. |
| Will Walker | Friday, November 15, 2019 - 07:22 pm
I second the overall theme of diverging CEO gameplay away from Country gameplay. Honestly the IPO rules don't make much sense at all except as a sanity check on financial shenanigans. If, however, you simply set non-player entities like c3c investment funds to follow those rules (they won't purchase new-issue shares unless those rules are met) then you force players to sell those shares to other players: players who should be doing their due dilligence anyway. This gives flexibility without triggering the abuses I assume you're concerned about.
I also think it makes sense to relax the 'no more than six corporations per enterprise per country' rules and again simply have C3Cs not approve past that, or take longer and longer to issue such approval - effectively acting as a brake since you can't have more than one proposed new corporation at a time.
Finally, I've been thinking about the resource payment more. As you know, I'm not a fan of it, but I understand its value as an incentive for country-players to cooperate with CEO players.
I propose changing this to be something that is negotiated on a case-by-case basis, rather than based on turnover.
The process would go like this:
CEO proposes to build a new corporation in a country.
President gets a memo, asking for approval: they fill out a form with proposed terms for this hosting fee (essentially a rent payment), which gets sent back to CEO.
CEO either accepts the proposed terms, sends back a counterproposal, or cancels the new corporation and goes elsewhere.
Skilled CEO players will be in high demand, meaning savvy players will offer them lower hosting fees. Skilled Country players will be in high demand (because productive workforces) and thus CEOs will be willing to pay higher hosting fees.
For this to really work, however, there needs to be another benefit to countries for private corporations. So I also propose that when CEOs hire workers, those workers cost the nation less: They're hired by a private company, that company can be paying into the education, healthcare, and retirement for these workers instead of social security. This means there's fewer people for the gov't to care for and so its costs should fall. Furthermore, corporations should be paying higher salaries than gov't jobs so they can get workers - and those salaries should be cycling back to the country in the form of taxes - higher taxes than if the State hired them.
Higher profit corporations = higher salaries = more cash in a given country = Player Countries want well-run, very profitable corporations (which CEOs can bring).
Well educated workforce + well run country = more productive workforce = more profit for CEOs = CEOs will want to locate in well-run countries (which player countries can offer).
To deal with AFK: Nations should define default hosting fees that, if they don't respond within a certain time frame, will be automatically offered in a 'take it or leave it' fashion.
C3Cs all offer the same terms (like they do now with tax rates), and will not negotiate. |
| Lord Mndz | Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 09:59 pm
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| Lord Mndz | Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 07:03 am
Andy, does it make sense for you to relax ipo and icrease building queue. |
| Lord Mndz | Friday, November 29, 2019 - 05:23 pm
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| Lord Mndz | Thursday, December 5, 2019 - 08:25 am
Andy, is something planned in your backlog to improve CEO life? It is pretty hard to play it right now..
Every day i am requesting to build many new corporations, and every time I am choosing C3 countries but not the player controlled countries, because of all the risk and lower profitability. Currently the losses and risks are outweighing the little bonuses. I think it has to be otherwise, - players would be competing for CEO attention and both presidents and CEO should have bonuses for building corporations in player controlled countries. I think this is most important in CEO gameplay - to be welcomed.
This situation has to be changed, because the game should be about collaboration among CEOs and Presidents and not about doing it all alone.
as a CEO i would like to help countries to grow, but now I need to avoid them at all to stay profitable because otherwise I could not survive.. |
| Lord Mndz | Saturday, December 7, 2019 - 12:26 pm
I will continue adding all CEO gameplay related suggestions to this conversation to have them in one place.
Few more suggestions:
What is the logic behind these CEO limitations?
- You are not able to move more than 1 corporation to the same country per game month?
- You are not able to build more than 1 corporation in the same country per game month
- You are not able to bid more than 2 corporations from the same player.
I think increasing these limitation to 5 or 10 would allow CEO to be more useful in collaboration with presidents. Also biding more corporations would give CEO power to fight to another CEOs/hostile countries taking over corporations. |
| Lord Mndz | Saturday, December 14, 2019 - 10:43 am
Andy,
I think it would be very useful for CEO to see what resources are being used by CEO owned corporations. This information could be used to buy these resources when price is low and later trade them with your corporations. Having this players would spend more time investigating the market and planning materials needed for production in advance.
Also CEO spending limit could be increased to be at least the same as countries have. CEO has many times more corporations than the country and it makes sense for them to buy/store more resources.
I hope this could be made.
I would appreciate your response in this thread. |
| Andy | Saturday, December 14, 2019 - 05:30 pm
The spending limit is per corporation and if there are many, they can all spend to their limits.
Going very high will enable larger scale dumping.
It seems that you are drawing conclusions from the short term oversupply we have seen.
I understand the conclusion.
Not sure if the solution is to enable much larger stocks.
I saw a large dump of oil in one of the worlds (don't remember which one) and not sure it was only there.
It caused an oversupply of oil while we have shortages of Natural Materials. |
| Lord Mndz | Saturday, December 14, 2019 - 05:54 pm
Andy, the idea is simply to add information to this page, to let ppl know how much corporations are using, nothing else. An arrow in the picture shows where you could add this information. I will add more clear picture tomorrow. It makes sense for me to see have this insight on trading page. |
| Lord Mndz | Sunday, December 15, 2019 - 06:27 pm
Andy,
this is what I meant, I hope it is more clear now.
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| John Galt | Monday, December 16, 2019 - 02:48 am
That looks great Lord Mndz. |
| Lord Mndz | Monday, December 16, 2019 - 07:24 pm
Thanks John |
| Lord Mndz | Saturday, October 17, 2020 - 06:40 am
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| Displacer Beast | Friday, January 15, 2021 - 07:33 pm
Love most of the ideas but "allow sabotaging the countries and corporations" kind of scares me.
Yeah it Does happen in the real world, but it just feels like it could turn out to be highly exploitable to just bully smaller cooperation's into submission.
Here's a few ideas of my own.
Loosen the belt around Natural resource corps for CEO's a little. Instead of completely disallowing them to build any once there past 100 corporations always allow either a flat Number of Mining corps independent of your total corp count OR a percentage of Total corps are able to be Mining corps.
Enterprise specialty's. Pick a category of products your corporation will have bonuses to quality and production in. |
| Lord Mndz | Friday, January 15, 2021 - 08:56 pm
to be honest any single improvement in CEO gameplay would make me happy for entire year.
you are right about 100 cap of mining corporations, this should be total of mining corporations but nut number of CEO owned corporations in general. many players start building trash corporations and have no way to fix it. |
| Kyle | Friday, January 15, 2021 - 10:08 pm
I too agree with the 100 cap of mining, i didnt know about this till it was too late and it kinda sucked |
