| Grayson301 (Little Upsilon) | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:10 am 
we should have the ablility to force out ANY private Corporations we don't desire in our countries anymore
sometime you just can't afford to bid on it and the CEO won't move it . so we should have a way to force it out |
| Váli (Little Upsilon) | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:46 am
raise tax |
| Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon) | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 10:05 am
If you want to force out a specific CEO or corp...nationalize it.
If you cannot afford to nationalize it, sell a GC or two for game cash with which to nationalize it.
Raising the tax will discourage ALL CEOs from investing in your country, which may or may not be what you want. |
| Grayson301 (Little Upsilon) | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 08:45 pm
Apparently this ceo doesn't mind 70 % taxes and 57% profit sharing |
| Grayson301 (Little Upsilon) | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 08:48 pm
Also .
he stole my state corps by bidding on them .
Apparently setting Taxes and profit share to hi will allow the game to let ceo's who want to steal countries state corps that arn't for sale in the first place to have them |
| John R | Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 11:07 pm
If he bid on the corps, he bought them - he didn't steal them.
If it makes you any better, in economic terms, he acquired the corporations.
And suggesting a new feature to the whole game simply to deal with your own particular problem won't take you far. |
| Grayson301 (Little Upsilon) | Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 03:08 am
John
this Game is suppose to be based on Real life Economic, and the last time i went to work if the company didn't want to sell it didn't HAVE to sell because there was no Stock offered it was wholly owned by ONE individle and not the masses.
Now if your talking about the MAFIA this Game IS based on there tactics -We don't like the way you run things and your going to sell if you like it or not.
Prehaps Rob did BID and therefore didn't steal them as you state
but the Tactic's of the Game engine ARE based on the MAFIA Style- and therefore it is Stealing to Force another to sell when they don't wish to |
| keto (Little Upsilon) | Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 07:25 pm
@JohnR, I agree with Grayson. These are our corps. If someone wants to purchase them they need to message that President to see if they want to sell. If not hands off!
It has happened to me a few times.
I'm thinking to declare war when they do that. |
| iwin (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 01:16 am
As far as country owned corps go, you can protect your corporations by making them National. There is a little link inside the corporation main page that will allow you to 'Change the Status' of the corporation. If they are National no one can bid on them, they don't even show up in the list of corps to bid on. Want to stop someone from bidding on your corps? Make them national and no one will even know they are there unless they go to the corporations page of your country.
As far as a specific CEO buying/building in your country. Not much you can do there except ask them to leave.
That is all. |
| keto (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 05:21 am
I have alot of national corps, but the state corps should also be protected. |
| iwin (Little Upsilon) | Friday, December 26, 2008 - 07:21 am
It's very simple, you can move them with one simple click of a link. (Actually doing it over in my head it would be one click for selecting country, one click to select corporations page, one click to select the corporation, and one last click to hit the nationalize; grand total 4 clicks)
You don't want it to be sold, click the links. Very simple I would say.
I have several national corps also, and zero state corps. Why? Because I'm not ready to sell them, they will stay that way until I am. |
| ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon) | Friday, December 26, 2008 - 06:03 pm
I think the cap for making corps national is limited to 20, most countries have more than 20 state corps.
I agree with grayson. He wants to protect his assets.
I disagree with John that asking for a game change from gms is ineffectual. Case in point. When LDI was bullying me, I retaliated by taking out a large amount of their state corps through sneak attacks. They successfully whined enough for Jozi to agree to their game changing request. To keep presidents out of WP for 24 hours following sneak attacks. And the change came rather quickly. I don't think LDI has that kind of pull, but I think it was done in the name of protecting ones assets from unwanted destruction. I think Grayson was correct to state that corps shouldn't be sold because someone has enough money to buy it out, it should be sold because the owner has an intention of selling. I think his request is warranted, i have even posted something stating what he said some time ago, but no response.  |
| John R | Friday, December 26, 2008 - 08:20 pm
The game economy game is based on Economical Principles. If you know even a few, you will see them mirrored here.
The way those Principals are weaved is at our choosing. They cannot blindly mimic or be limited by the quandaries of the real world. They are to be ordered under the concept of this game and aimed towards the objective(s) of the same.
The way corporations are bought, with or without consent, isn't a question for economics but for legality. And with no rules forbidding what was done, it is legal, it is okay.
If you do not want your corporations sold, serve of the current legal frame, nationalize them.
Changes are done on what is clearly a mistake of the game and what players turn into a mistake. Do not confuse them. |
| Grayson301 (Little Upsilon) | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 07:28 am
then this is CLEARLY a mistake of the game that the Players have used to there advantage.
apparently I'm not the only one to complain or to have complained about this issue.
and Economical Principles are let the Other person have a choice to. presently the only other way to stop it once it begans is to make the market value higher and thus raise the bid.
BUT no where does anyone have a TRUE Choice to stop it short of Either nationalizing and/or Raiseing the Market Value which is not always a possible venue.
so in the interest of FAIR PLAY,
i would suggest either:
1) make it a choice to sell
2) enable a Longer auction time and truely give(the player) the corporation thats being bid on a chance to bring the market value up.
In my case 3 of the corps went over nite while i slept and i did try and bring the market value up on the other 3.
LEGAL doesn't mean right
If put up to a proposal and voted FOR would the game designers repair this issue? |
| John R | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 01:36 pm
Of course not, because it is no mistake. |
| Grayson301 (Little Upsilon) | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 06:26 pm
AH the Dang MAFIA scum Tactic's will be allowed to contunie then.
Thats sad when the designers WILL NOT repair a Problem because it would make the Game more fair to NEW players and OLD alike while adding an element of challange to the rich and powerful by FORCING them to negotiate for other peoples corporations.
MAYBE it is bases on Government principles to
let the rich TAKE what the Poor have |
| John R | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 09:25 pm
Yes, yes, Gray. This is all about you and what you think. Have a lolly. |
| Grayson301 | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 09:42 pm
Ah i hurt your feelings John |
| John R | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 09:54 pm
Obviously. It's perfectly natural for people with hurt feelings to offer lollies. It's their trademark. |
| Grayson301 | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 10:00 pm
And obviously it's not all about me considering that i have not been the only one to complain abou tthis Issue. BUT OH if you had READ all the postings on this thread and obviously some other older ones you would know that |
| John R | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 10:08 pm
I've read all of the posts in this forum for the past three years. You?
You better start accepting other views on life. You can start by this game. |
| Grayson301 | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 10:41 pm
You better start accepting other views on life. ?
Or what you see that i'm boycotted or worse case i'm banned from the Game
SEE i have this God given right to Speak out and Choose what i do
Sim Country on the other hand wants to continue there underhanded game play policies.
and when my time runs out or I'm out of the REAL money i have invested then i can Choose to SPEND MORE or move on to other things
so JOHN R finish the threat
Seems like your the one having the ISSUE of ACCEPTING other views |
| John R | Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 11:08 pm
LOL Have another lolly! |
| Grayson301 (Little Upsilon) | Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 05:07 am
ah can i have a cherry one please |
| Pathetic Sheep (White Giant) | Monday, December 29, 2008 - 09:51 am
Grayson,
On your country's home page go to "settings". Find the phrase "block CEOs". Use your mouse and put an X in that box.
Without CEOs in your country you will always be a poor weak slum. CEO corporations create cash for your country. On the corporations page there is a line that says "country resources used". In all of your state and national corporations that line is $0. In all of your CEO owned corporations it is much more than 0. In most cases country resources used is larger than the company profit. That means you earn more cash from a corporation than the CEO even if taxes are at 0%. |
| Maxwell (Little Upsilon) | Wednesday, January 7, 2009 - 07:26 pm
I actually don't mind people buying my corps especially if they keep them in the country they bought them in and I believe that most of us that have played for any length of time feel they same excluding strat corps of course but that is beside the point.
The obvious answer for Grayson is to Nationalize all your countrys state corps. I did this in the first few months that I played they where mine I built them "hands off" but now all are for sale.
Which brings me to the part where I tell you that Testoria has corps for sale and they are fully loaded with cash and since that last line was all about me I'll take my Lolly now,, uhm as long as it's not a one-eyed Lolly.
The only real problem is the cap on the amount of corps that can be Nationalized this I would like to see raised.
Maxwell |
| Jack Frost (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, January 8, 2009 - 04:09 pm
I think you may be safe Swesson, unless your mascquerading around as a pool boy.
As has been stated before, if you dont want anyone to be able to buy your corporation, nationalize it and/or check the block CEOs function.
With Regards,
Dragoon |
| Jim (Golden Rainbow) | Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 05:59 pm
Comments from a "newb" digging into history:
First, I think the idea of raising the limit on the number of nationalized corps is a good one. A higher limit gives a new president time to learn some of the ins and outs of managing a national econcomy, and a corporation, before they have to face corporate raiders -- who are an essential part of both the game and real life!
However, 25 or 30 is plenty. By the time your national economy can support 30 corps, doing well enough to tempt a raider, you have probably learned enough to consider your own Enterprise. Then you can build where you will. And 30 nationalized strategic supply corps can supply much of what a president needs to keep his national economy moving along.
Second, Meglomania on GR welcomes "corporate raiders" and tries very hard to convince CEO's that there is no where else on the world they would rather operate -- 5% tax and headed down, lots of available pop and more as needed. Please buy my corps! ;) |
| Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon) | Friday, February 27, 2009 - 12:21 am
Gravedigging is bad, mmkay? |
