| Tyran Fury (Little Upsilon) | Saturday, October 4, 2008 - 05:34 am 
I think that a common/local market system should be where a corporation or country need only buy from that market as necessary. A corporation that offers products on the local or common market still merely offers the product. If no one buys, the corp sends it to the international market. The corporation chooses what percent to put on the local market, and what percent to put on the common market. Contract obligations automatically reduce production from the total for each month. And then all extra is sent to the international market. If nothing is bought on the common/local market, it is also sent to the international market for that month, or the player can choose to put it into reserve.
Corporations/countries can specify what percent of their needs will be supplied by the local market, the common market, and the international market. If needs cannot be met by the local market, the demand is added to the common market, and vice versa. If the common/local market doesn't have the supply, the demand is added to the international market. The supply requests can be made monthly, or as needed. ***
The priority for who gets the local market supplies first is set by the country. The priority for who gets the common market supplies first is set by the common market.
Further, there should be a common/local warehouse for reserve supplies. Corporations can place their extra supplies, and non-contracted reserved production, into these reserves, but cannot send so much that they need to automatically request more. Reserve supplies are only opened up, with a specific quantity supplied, by the market members; or they can allow corporations to take emergency supplies as needed. Supplies that are not sold are placed back into the Reserve.
***And another thing, I end up getting monthly supplies for stuff that I don't need. How about a contract option to start sending the supplies monthly when I need them? This requires a set month to be placed on the contract to avoid someone manually buying supplies to avoid the contract.
And also, there can be an option for a supply contract which may decrease if production is reduced. A corp that is the sender in this contract will just offer any excess on the international market. They can also create a termination point, which is set as an amount, or a percent, out of the original contract offer. |
| Angus88 (Little Upsilon) | Saturday, October 4, 2008 - 09:00 am
Most of those issues you raised can already be done, you just haven't figured out how to work them.
1. "The corporation chooses what percent to put on the local market, and what percent to put on the common market."
You can do that already just create separate local and common market commitments. The rest of that paragraph you are describing the way the system is now.
2. "Corporations/countries can specify what percent of their needs will be supplied by the local market, the common market, and the international market."
Decent idea, but I don't know why you wouldn't want 100% from contracts. Maybe instead make contracts discriminate on the basis of average supply quality.
3. You can, offer x amount to local market only, and y amount to common market only. They will get priority.
4. Nice idea but wouldn't catch on I think. You can set a reserve for corporations, after a while that product can't be sold and is scrapped. You can use your enterprise or country as a warehouse, but you can only re offer these products to the international market. If you not getting contracts for your product then basically no one on your market wants it, and the international market is the only place where you have a chance of selling it. The reason you can't keep an unlimited amount of goods in a corporation forever is to keep economic growth going.
5. If your talking about a corporation then something you have done has caused a decrease in production (less raw material consumption) while contract amounts stay the same. If your talking about a country then who cares, sell your excess goods at the right time to make a profit off them.
6. Nice suggestion, would be good to have an updating contract system, but too much coding for too little a feature. |
| Tyran Fury (Little Upsilon) | Saturday, October 4, 2008 - 05:47 pm
What I was making a suggestion for was in creating general markets, not contract markets. You're speaking as if these paragraphs are separate ideas. This is a process for selling and buying on a local/common general marketplace, explaining what you can do at each step. It's going to be similar because marketing is marketing, one contract, the other general. Both have to do with buying and selling products the way you want so the processes will be very similar.
Throwing products to the international market is throwing it to a general market where you don't have to contract the products to anybody. But you can still choose to create international contracts.
The local and common market systems are currently all about contracts, and those are difficult to work with, especially considering you may have to update multiple corporations every time production changes.
So the first part is all about making local/common non-contract markets, and the second part are suggestions for better contract systems.
You're saying I can do all these things in the current system. Of course. Contract and general marketing are very similar because, well, you're doing the same thing, ie trading products. In a contract market, you pick who you want to offer to, what amount(manually figuring out individual percentages of production if you want), and what price. In a general market, you just don't pick who you offer the contract to. People just buy it. The local/common market currently is a mixture of general and contract market. You generally market a contract.
My question/suggestion is: Why can't it be where you can have general common/local marketing along with marketing of contracts, with an easier contract system? (I'll probably get back: "Coz it'd be too easy" :P) |
| Angus88 (Little Upsilon) | Sunday, October 5, 2008 - 06:31 am
Bit unclear of what you are suggesting, you want a market like the international market but exclusively for common market members? |
| Tyran Fury (Little Upsilon) | Monday, October 6, 2008 - 04:38 am
Yep. You choose to put out your production to the l/c market either as a contract offer(happens over and over), or as a general offer(happens once but you've probably set it to generally offer the product every month).
If it isn't bought, you'll put it out to the international market, which is what I call a general market. So instead of f***ing around with contracts, you just send it and forget it. |
