| Anthony King | Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 06:14 am 
I don't know where i am doing it wrong. I had like 20 of them in the sharemarket and nearly all of them went back to state. Could anyone with experience in sharemarketing point me out the problem? |
| Crafty | Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 03:10 pm
There was no demand for the shares. |
| Anthony King | Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 06:35 pm
Oh right. Thanks. I just hope i can try and put them all the in the market. I also found out high tax can cause spike in p/e ratio, so put them back to zero and for sharemarket, i'll have zero profit transfer, that should make it even better. |
| Anthony King | Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 07:44 pm
I think i have tax and profit transfer settings just right. And the magic number for the quality is 193, atleast i think so far. Tax is 10% and profit is 90%. It should be ok from here on wards. |
| Anthony King | Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 10:17 pm
I still need to adjust the tax and profit transfer at the moment. I know 20% tax is little too high because of the p/e ratio. I'll be trying 15% tax and 85% profit, it (should) be ok. |
| Crafty | Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 11:03 pm
Advice: dont have tax and profit transfer add to 100%. It will take virtually every cent of profit from your corps every month. It wont take ALL because profit transfer is after tax taken. You want to leave around 15% (in my reckoning)for your corp to look after itself and grow with. |
| Anthony King | Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 11:16 pm
So virtually what your saying is, leave out tax to 0% and have profit transfer of 85% instead.
Well then, that would make more sense for the corp to grow its investments.
Thank you Crafty. |
| Drew | Friday, August 24, 2012 - 07:02 am
There are other ways to go about this. You can get a bunch of CEO's and ramp up taxes to 75%.  You can keep the taxes and profit tranfser insane and take all the money, in state corps cash transers will keep them afloat awhile. Time Value of Money crafty sheesh. Plus I mean really corps don't need cash. They jest need to stay positive and by that I mean buy a kittie |
| Crafty | Friday, August 24, 2012 - 01:25 pm
But Anthony is trying to make his shares sellable Drew. So your ideas are bad in his situation.
Bumping tax to 75% with ceos is a sh*t thing to do, and could get you killed. Transfers kill your economy because monthly losses are 10 times monthly profits. As for time value...I suppose you have a valid point, but what your saying is like a bad investment, it could cost you dear in the long run.
So, yah boo sucks Drew. |
| Drew | Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 06:39 am
i no, but you always tell people exactly what to do, how they gonna learn?  (sad face) the question should be really why does he want to dillute his ownership and percentage of the profit?
CEO's aren't welcome in my country either so I wouldn't do that anyways. But there isn't a right and wrong things to do things, there should be a multitude of strategies. Like my countries with 0% tax, 0% profit transfer, no permenant CEO's. Just sayin, tons of way to run this.
Anthony IPOing gives you a 1 time payment and lowers your income from there on. If you decide to do this have a strategy otherwise you are just giving a bunch of investment funds money every month and falling back into the red. I should have known by the picture mad puppy has no sense of humor
If you do want to IPO, enterprises aren't always gaurenteed. But you can influence your PE by having higher cash reserves (dropping your profit transfer). By tanking your MV and bringing it back more swiftly (high salaries, and cutting your production, leaving hiring at 100). Or by simply investing in your country if you have a welfare of at least 110 then no corp should fail to sell unless you build THOSE corps you know THOSE corps right? |
| Anthony King | Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 10:32 am
Yes Drew.
Thank you for giving me some guide lines. |
| Crafty | Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 12:40 pm
Quote:I don't know where i am doing it wrong. I had like 20 of them in the sharemarket and nearly all of them went back to state. Could anyone with experience in sharemarketing point me out the problem?
Right? So that was the original question Drew, to which I responded.
BTW your spelling and grammar is getting worse daily, you on drugs?
And honestly your know all attitude and manner of speaking to me is beginning to anger me. This 'puppy' dawg doesn't have a sense of humour for young upstarts, tread carefully. |
| Anthony King | Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 08:22 pm
Now i know what is p/e ratio. I had another proper read about the p/e ratio and it doesn't effect the cash profit transfer even at 100%. The corporation will still make income (according to my knowledge). Profit transfer over rules the tax to the country's revenue income.
High profit per share will lead to lower P/E ratio (the lower the P/E ratio the better).
Unholy Electric Power
Share Price and P/E Ratio
Based on last 12 months Outstanding Shares 25,600.00M
P/E Ratio 66.2
Share Price 65.96 SC$
Earning per Share In Recent Period 0.89 SC$
The terms of p/e ratio performance is based on the share. What is telling me, if the earning per share in recent period goes up, that would make the p/e go down and there for, it will be more profitable and share price either goes up or down is the value of the corporation (atleast that's what i think). That's how i see it and my thought's on it, seem's about right.
This doesn't effect the 100% profit transfer, it is based on the per share, based on the demand on the market.
I hope this makes sense and understanding to improve the corporation value and it's profitability.
Thanks, Anthony. |
| Crafty | Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 09:30 pm
Making sense now, but if your MV is falling then so is the value of each share. This may improve the P/E providing the earnings are staying good, but the sale of your shares will be for less per share. Great if your buying them yourself with another entity (though it doesn't really matter because its all your account anyway) not so good if you're randomly throwing them out there.
And despite what people say about MV not mattering, it does all go toward your countrys asset level, which in turn gives your country a larger score and I believe a better asset index will help your welfare too.
Anyways, like Drew kindly asked, why are you IPOing anyway? Just for the sake of it or do you have a plan for who ends up owning the shares? |
| Anthony King | Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 09:50 pm
Anyways, like Drew kindly asked, why are you IPOing anyway?
I missed that question, my apology if i didn't get it back to you.
It's mainly because i'm into sharemarketing and just for the sake of doing it. I do know that sharemarketing helps bring in more income from high profits. I also would like to hold some shares as well. So basically, it's called balance.
This way, it will help the country's revenue income along with high assets as it gets bigger in population. Not the real sharemarketing, i ain't that rich to play the real stock exchange, i wish i could, i'd be millionaire, but dreaming though.
If i don't get banned or anything happens in the future, i do love the game and i have big plans for this game as far as sharemarketing goes and improve the finance situation and the indexes along the way.
Now that i got an opportunity, i am looking forward to do sim sharemarketing type that i always wanted to do.
I hope this clarify your understanding.
Thank you, Anthony. |
| Crafty | Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 09:55 pm
Ok, thats cool, glad you're having fun with it. |
| Alexandrov Stolin | Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 06:10 pm
ive found that going public is very profitable and more in the long term then short the bonuses you get from 250 quality and effectivity boost up profits to 1 billion a month which allows me to pay high salarys and get some good taxable income I always go zero profit transfer and pretty high taxes to make sure the shareholders who own 80% of the company get no profits and I get my taxes
in the short term my corps value just tanks and people just buy shares for penny's and I don't really get any income
now for my question how do you ipo
ive done it before but now that the standards have changed it seems impossible I have quite abit of fully upgraded state corps and they are nowhere near 500 billion value most are around 200 and as for pe seedy can someone give me some tips my country is the grand union of monto on WG |
| Anthony King | Friday, August 31, 2012 - 03:19 am
I cant ipo more than 5 corporation, why is that?
Also, Electric Power is stuck at 5.97%, im trying to get it to 0%, its been stuck for few days now. |
| Alexandrov Stolin | Friday, August 31, 2012 - 05:36 pm
bump |
| Alexandrov Stolin | Saturday, September 1, 2012 - 02:04 am
bump bump bump |
| Crafty | Saturday, September 1, 2012 - 11:30 am
All I can offer is it takes time for a corp to reach 500B+ MV and it needs to be profitable. When your P/E is close to 40 the market can make the difference between IPO-able or not, it bounces around. If its really doing well (earnings in the latest period) then you wont have to worry. Patience for MV, keeping lots of stock, low profit transfer so high cash all the time, good corp welfare, raise salaries a little, they can all be played with but patience and consistancy is best. |
