| The_Wicked_Lady | Thursday, August 8, 2013 - 03:56 pm 
I just want to bring to light that I think it is terrible that game vets continuously pick on the new players in this game. And in this reference I will name the players - Chiwoo and Wendy (Entrepreneur/LazyEye). It cannot be an issue of wanting a good challenging fight, because the newer players will never have a fighting chance against those who have 7 years plus of weapons stored, if constantly harrassed and decced.
All I see is the newer players eventually getting frustrated, pulling their money from the game and just quitting. Perhaps that is the aim of the vets to keep complete domination of the game?????? I would think they would want to grow it and get it back to its heyday of a few years back when lots more were actively playing and being vocal. They need to remember they were once new players themselves.
All I can say is the veteran players should pick on people their own size in the game. Now, I will say that yes, this is a war game, but I just don't see the point here. I can attribute it to one thing only........game bullying.
If this is about me as a player and an attempt to destroy BME because of some stupid personal vendetta a certain player has, as I have been informed by a former mate of mine, then I am the one you need to attack, and not the innocent players in this game. I can sum this all up as PATHETIC and DESPERATE. I would never stoop so low.
I am asking players from ALL the federations (Hydra, LUDO, Sleeping Giants and any others) to help me to stand up to the bully players and get them to back off from new players. I think this is a travesty to this game. I will note that ALL the named federations above including Bad Meets Evil, are trying to help new players and not discourage them from playing.
As a result of all this, I strongly encourage all new players to:
1. never go above war level 2 and/or
2. Do not expand unless you are willing to pay for war protection or have earned enough game cash to adequately defend your country. |
| Space313 | Thursday, August 8, 2013 - 07:34 pm
This is truly a nice thing you are doing, it's a shame that new players have to leave because they are harassed, and then either dominated or completely destroyed. Eventually, all who rise, must fall, either that be a soft drop, or a painful slip. Also, you always have your storage of shoes to throw from when you were little, so I guess you can fend them off with those. |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Thursday, August 8, 2013 - 09:06 pm
Thanks, Space. Yes, I do have my shoes! :P I just think that the older players while playing their games should be doing their part to teach the game and promote growth..........not stunt it.
Now, dun get me wrong. A lil war action is fine, but consistent decs over and over and over are absurd, and I don't want to see this to continue to happen. |
| asurfaholic | Thursday, August 8, 2013 - 11:39 pm
hehe
I am glad to see people play the war game, but I agree the huge vets are going to decimate a newer player. There should at least be some grace period, one certain player shouldn't just get out of a war, then get dec'd again. |
| WildStallion | Friday, August 9, 2013 - 12:17 am
In ref asurfaholics comment, any player can get attacked and get dec'd on again it may not be nice but it's life, as i had it happen to me a few years back when i was know under a different name and not WS, i'd gone away on holiday so didn't have the opportunity to be online, by the time i did get back online half my empire had been taken, i was p'd off so i just gave up the rest of my empire, having also paid real hard earned cash purchasing coins previously in the game. But now in 2013 i'm back to see if Simcountry has improved for the better or is it still the same old....? |
| Marco Guerra | Friday, August 9, 2013 - 12:46 am
Nice rallying cry,@Lorelei hehe but honestly it maybe too little too late! |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Friday, August 9, 2013 - 12:49 am
Probably, but I think it is something the game vets should consider. I'm not discouraging the war game, as I think most would agree it is exciting. I also agree that wp should be utilized. However some of the players are young, don't have jobs and cannot necessarily afford infinite wp. I'm just saying. |
| Roving EYE | Friday, August 9, 2013 - 12:52 am
sing , sing sing your diities |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Friday, August 9, 2013 - 05:07 am
No, No, No
No ditties today! |
| Nico | Friday, August 9, 2013 - 05:12 am
Not in my house! |
| Josias | Friday, August 9, 2013 - 05:17 am
this game really needs a reset |
| WildStallion | Friday, August 9, 2013 - 01:55 pm
The reset button has just been pressed and from tomorrow - improvements will be made..... and my own real cash will soon get spent.... to show the DISBELIEVERS of what I can REALLY do when I am online more often. When this happens everyone will be speaking the name of the WildStallion, asking who are you...? Where did you come from...? And as quick as I arrive, I will then fade away not to be seen of again for a while into the dustcloud coming from the horseshoes of my WildStallions. |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 01:40 am
My federation just came out of war declarations again by The Bully Machine. I just wanna throw my arms up in the air sometimes with this game. I have appealed to the game master to address these sort of issues that will keep game bullies from running off players from the game.
Here is the latest relative to my federation.........warnings are being issued to players in my federation that if they continue to be a part of my federation or are aligned with me in the game, that they will PAY.... be decced, economically ruined, blah blah. This is so wrong on so many levels.
What on earth has this game become???? Bad Meets Evil is a new federation with players who are new to the game or have not been in the game for very long. My frustration is having a game bully who consistently picks on the newer players over some personal vendetta. I have to wonder what the agenda is.....to run paying players off. I really don't get it.
I'm appealing to the game masters and the community for ideas to stop this sort of game harrassment.......one that has the potential to run players off. Please provide me your input. Pros and cons to my view are welcome.
Love and hugs to you all!
Jan |
| Tallisibeth na Colliete | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 02:23 am
This is the one thing that saddens me with this: people take vendettas way too far. This isn't like the saber-rattling that goes on between Nico and myself. These are vets ruining other players just because of association. And for that, you have my full support. |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 04:11 am
Thanks, Lisbeth. I'm not trying to pick on anyone here, I just use the current situation as an example. It is within the rules and regulations that players can do this. I know that war levels were introduced to protect players, but a new player may not fully understand what can happen if they go above war level 2. It just isn't enough. I don't mind the occasional war, cuz I've always loved the excitement of the war game. I just think there should be some decency and fun about it, and not to the degree that this current situation has arisen to.
Not everyone may agree with me on this issue, and that is okay. I just wanted to hear from the community or if anyone had any ideas on how to keep this from happening. It just isn't decent playing, in my opinion. I've gotten some good suggestions from one player, but I want to hear from more, before I present my case to the game master with some ideas.
Thanks, everyone. Love and hugs to all of you!
Jan |
| Nico | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 04:46 am
I think game bullies should be abolished from Simcountry. Simcountry is supposed to be a place where you come and play a political game. Not worrying about who's gunna stalk who and who is a multi and who's not. I'm asking Gamemaster to step up and ban these people. Lets make Simcountry and political game again! Who's with me? |
| Aries | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 06:39 am
Taking action against one player who is not breaking any game rules is a bad precedent. How can you further making Simcountry a political game if you look to the gamemaster to solve your problems with a player? Are you suggesting that action should be taken against a player based on a popularity contest?
I have offered my suggestions to Jan. They are:
1. Offer addition incentives to raise war level.
This is a huge issue. War levels were introduced to limit newer players from experiencing wars from war veterans. The problem is, there is simply no incentive to raise to the higher war levels for most players.
Ironically, the players that do raise their war level to some of the highest levels, find themselves out of reach of many of the more aggressive war players who tend to keep their war level low.
The ideal place to start incentives is at war level 7, the first level out of reach of declaring on a new war player at war level 3. Some ideas would be one or more of the following.
-Allow war level 7+ player to upgrade units past the normal 450 limit for non-mobile units on an ascending scale. Maybe 455 at 7, 460 at 8, and so on. This would also allow these players to prepare better for higher level raiding.
-A reduction in military costs on an ascending scale. Really looking for benefits for war players here. Again, looking at maybe 5% at 7, 10% at 8, and so on. This could possibly extend to a reduction in the use of training ammo.
More ideas are welcome here. The goal is a continuing benefit that would genuinely be missed by a war player who chooses not to raise war level.
2. Limit war protection so it does not protect aggressive players.
From the war protection page, the idea of war protection is keeping your empire intact while on vacation or other occasions you are unable to play the game. Also, when you don't wish to fight.
A player who declares war on another player does not fall into these scenarios. I propose, for the duration of an active war that you initiated on another player, this protection would not function. You would not lose your balance of purchased war protection but your empire, with the exception of a country in secured mode, could now be attacked by the player you declared on or others as a result of your hostile act. This will prevent aggressors from unfairly dictating terms of an engagement using war protection.
3. A new world not connected to the others via shuttle roots and disconnected from direct trade.
Josias has suggested a game reset. Though this would put newer players at much less of an asset advantage with game veterans, this could act to cause those same veterans to leave the game for a few reasons. One, they lose anything they built and any progress towards any game goals they were working towards. Two, they would have to question any additional commitment to the game in time or money.
I think the better option would be a new world that does not benefit from current game assets. I predict this would quickly be an exciting and popular world. I would play there. However, I also predict this could affect activity on current worlds to some extent as new players would gravitate towards the new world. I would be for some type of player merger on existing worlds, especially those of the same rule-set. |
| Stephen Ryan | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 07:07 am
Nothing wrong with the way it is if you don't want the war don't level up to three and above and josias sour grapes made the mistake of deleting his empire if u aint got the time don't bother. iv spent thousands of dollars here and hours stop ur whining lol |
| Aries | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 07:50 am
SR, all my suggestions would do to you is save you 5% on your military and allow you to upgrade to 455 qua on your weapons and ammo. What isn't to like? |
| Philipp Bauer | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 09:14 am
I observe a very large degree of Irony... Is White Giant in equal status to that of Little Upsilon? Do we not all want peace? Or does the community media only turn its head to LU and not WG?
Good Day to all |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 03:56 pm
Stevie,
I understand what you are saying. My only argument about the war levels is this. Alot of new players enjoy fighting c3s for the game cash. If I recall, it isn't that many c3s you take that will put you at war level 3. This doesn't make a skilled war player against someone in the game who's been here more than five or so years, playing solidly. For example, I am war level 4, I only have in weapons what I have purchased over several months. If you, who have been here many years, are let's say war level 5 or 6, who has years worth of weapons stores, would it be fair to pit me against you? No, not really.
Now, having said this. This is all currently within the rules and regulations. I am all for wars. But if a player such as yourself or your game magnitude keeps deccing the less than experienced players...over and over and over, is that really necessary or fair? I don't see you doing this. No, because you play the game as it is intended to be played. You war when necessary and build your econ continuously. You are not what I deem as a game terrorist.
Aries has given me and stated above some very good suggestions. I do think it is important that the players, like you, Stevie, are given their fair due as they have sunk lots of time and money over the years. I'm not seeking any penalizations.
What I am getting at has more to do with game harrassment and bullying. I think this is something entirely different and should be frowned upon by the community as a whole.
Furthermore, Stevie, I'm not whining. I'm trying to be constructive without offending anyone. I'm trying to protect the money that I have spent and other new players have spent as well. I think this bullying behavior is a deterrent to players trying to get established in the game. I'm trying to play my game. My mates are trying to play theirs. These constant war decs and harrassment pretty much discourages me. I believe I have approached you on several occassions for your help in this sort of situation. I would think the community would want to grow the game......not keep it at a level where it is now, where the vets only control the game.
Also, Wolfie, I posted this under LU because this is what has been going on on LU. I don't see this sort of behavior on WG, but yes, I agree it should apply across all worlds in the game.
Love to you all and thank you for your input and feedback.
Jan |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 03:59 pm
Oh and to Aries.......... what I am suggesting here is not an aim by me against any 1 player. I apply this to anyone who would engage in such behavior in the game to where it would discourage people from continuing to play the game. So please do not turn this into a vendetta play by me, for this is NOT what this is about. I just wanted to make this VERY clear.
This sort of play has gone on for years, and the GMs have taken steps to stop it. I think maybe a little something more should be in place, perhaps as you suggested above.
Thanks, dear.
Jan |
| Nico | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 05:16 pm
Wendy declared today. So far:
Queen Karma against The Democratic Union of Bambaro Declared, war starts Mar 19 3211
Queen Karma against The Empire of Sonno bet Declared, war starts Mar 19 3211
Queen Karma against Bold Declared, war starts Mar 20 3211
Queen Karma against The United Kingdom of Salvadoro Declared, war starts Mar 20 3211
Queen Karma against SCOWL Declared, war starts Mar 20 3211
I have counter declared on her unprotected slaves |
| Nico | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 05:23 pm
These are my counter declarations. Chimera and Dynasty are Wendy's countries. The rest are C3s.
SCOWL against Chimera Declared, war starts Mar 21 3211
SCOWL against Dynasty Declared, war starts Mar 21 3211
SCOWL against The Democratic Union of Lily mar Declared, war starts Mar 20 3211
SCOWL against Melanie Declared, war starts Mar 20 3211
SCOWL against Mendaro Declared, war starts Mar 20 3211
SCOWL against The Republic of Terra maris Declared, war starts Mar 20 3211 |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 05:42 pm
Surprise, surprise. This is the third round of decs by this player in a month's time.
To those in BME, please, if you have slaves out of WP and you are wl3 and above, please buy WP, otherwise these continuous decs will happen by this seven plus year war vet on all your countries, as long as you are associated with me in the game. |
| Nico | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 06:24 pm
I think she might have a obsession over you, Jan. |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 06:30 pm
Well she can obsess all she likes. I'm not going anywhere......not this time. Doesn't matter if I play alone or just chat......I will be here. She's run me out of the game numerous times, but this time......I'm sticking to my game. :-)
There are too many good peeps in the game to let one bad apple ruin it. As I said, good always will triumph over evil. I pride myself in being one of the good guys (gal in my case) in this game.
Raises a glass to Simcountry! Long live the game! |
| Nico | Sunday, September 8, 2013 - 08:07 pm
Glad to hear you aren't leaving! You shouldn't leave because she wants to start bullying. Good to hear! Cheers! |
| Josias | Monday, September 9, 2013 - 02:46 am
alright steve, this would be the 4th time i've started from scratch, or worse. last time we bumbed heads, i'd been playing my account for less than a year, and started with more debt than cash.
i'm fully capable of rebuilding everything, in less than a year. i reset, because i don't want to spend that much effort in SC. I'm very happy with my tiny little empire.
no, i think one of the flaws of the SC war game, is the immensity of it. with hundred, and hundreds of units, your talking allot of clicking. and the value of what you can squeeze off in an hour, many players wont ever make that much.
so you have a handful players, such as yourself, that have spent thousands of dollars, and countless hours, over years, to build what they got. they aren't going to be quick to risk it, if they stand to loose to many assets. as i can testify in your behalf.
wouldn't it be nice to just enjoy duking it our with some one, over a 25M country, because its bigger than anything you've got? and not have to spend a year building up for the attack?
the people who are constantly warring, other presidents, shouldn't be at a war level that they could threaten new players. Over simply not being enlightened to SC politics. which can be rather bizzar sometimes. |
| Serpent | Monday, September 9, 2013 - 02:33 pm
The easiest way to fix this problem of game 'bullies' is that when you are an aggressor against any president your ENTIRE empire on that world cant have the benefit of war protection. Futhermore, when the war decs go out, you can no longer take assets out of the country at the rate it can be done now.... you can bring them in, but not out as quickly as you can now.
Its all about risk assessment, some of the game 'bullies' will not use their main secured countries to fight because they dont have the 'inner testicular fortitude' to do so. If they were risking their main countries, which to them is what the 25-30M pop country of a newer player to them, then they might reconsider. |
| Josias | Monday, September 9, 2013 - 03:22 pm
my thought, if its important enough for a person to go to this degree to win, and the GM give them a pass, then just let them win. this has been going on for years now, and the GM give it a pass.
this isn't what i want, but this has been going on for years. and the GM doing next to nothing about it. so, some of us, just have to accept the fact, that any one associated with us, will come under fire. and either give up, or practice what you'll tell those formerly enthusiastic newbs, after she's beat them up, for joining your fed.
you wouldn't really be to blame, but at this point, its gone on for so long, and been given a wide enough path, that Wendy, is more of a game feature, than a player. A random enemy that could rear up and attack, for any reason, with little or no warning, while remaining safe behind loopholes the GM are unwilling to change.
seriously, this has happened enough, long enough, that its a Game Feature at this point. |
| Serpent | Monday, September 9, 2013 - 03:29 pm
IMO its not about Wendy because the issues discussed here, although they may apply in cases involving her a lil more than others, apply to everybody. If you make it so that the aggressor is actually risking something, then watch the decs from the 'game terrorists' stop! |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Monday, September 9, 2013 - 04:55 pm
Very well stated, Serpent. |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Monday, September 9, 2013 - 10:53 pm
Well I'm growing weary of it. I may go back to just chatting my way through the game. I see it as pointless really to even try. |
| Aries | Monday, September 9, 2013 - 11:48 pm
Lets not try. Throw in the towel. Raise the white flag. Sorry folks, nothing to see here. Everyone go home (and play Simcountry). |
| Nico | Monday, September 9, 2013 - 11:49 pm
But I don't wanna :'( |
| WildStallion | Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 12:34 am
To go from mortal to Buddha, you HAVE to put an END to karma, nurture your awareness, and accept what life brings.
Regardless of what we do, our karma has NO hold on US.
As long as KARMA exists, the world changes. There will always be KARMA to be taken care of. |
| Nico | Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 12:52 am
... |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 11:04 pm
Thank you, everyone for your constructive input. I have emailed the GMs with your suggestions. I will let you all know what the response is. |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Monday, September 16, 2013 - 04:09 pm
Apparently the game Bully has issued war decs AGAIN against some of the newer and less fortunate players in this game. I am curious as to the updates that the GameMaster has in place that was to prohibit or make it costly for this to happen???
I know that Hydra is more than capable to war, but what about Star Froth and King Elias Acorn or any other poor soul in the game who is new or trying to get established???? Apparently the Bully can only defeat players that have played for short periods of time. Bless her heart. *There, there |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Tuesday, September 17, 2013 - 04:45 pm
The Bully Strikes Again! I ask everyone in this community to speak out against such behavior. This player is rude to people in chat. She told Viper yesterday to shut up that she is confused, made said player leave chat.
She is rude to TheWhy who comes in to ask game questions. She bullies players into leaving where they wish to be in the game. She dictates how everyone should play their game. Really,,,,,,,,,,such gall and arrogance.
I am asking everyone to STAND UP against this behavior. Write the Gamemaster that WE WANT CHANGE! Thank you.
aries> hey chao
thechao5> Testing
thechao5> Where's Wendy?
thechao5 has left
thechao5 has become available
thechao5 has left
thechao5 has become available
thechao5 has left
thechao5 has become available
thechao5> Anyone?
aries> entrepreneur=wendy
aries> she was looking for you. think is afk atm.
thechao5> Thanks
the_wicked_lady> ty aries
the_wicked_lady> sorry was on the phone
thechao5> Hi, Jan
the_wicked_lady> hello
the_wicked_lady> Aries, who is winning???
aries> bengals!
the_wicked_lady> smiles
the_wicked_lady> cuz of your lucky shirt
thechao5> Ugh, my head
aries> yep
the_wicked_lady> you have a headache, chaotic one?
thechao5> Yep
thechao5> Everything Aries has is lucky
the_wicked_lady> Nico asked me to tell you that he replied
the_wicked_lady> whatever that means
thechao5> I know, I got it
entrepreneur> chao you are star foth?
thewhy has become available
thewhy has left
thechao5> OH sorry
thechao5> Yeah
entrepreneur> interesting I never knew that.
thechao5> I have you on the PM thing?
thechao5> Well, anywho, shall we?
entrepreneur> I think we can discuss this openly, especially since your fedmate, and a victim advocate are present in the room
thechao5> Alright, then
entrepreneur> I'll be quick though I know it was hard for you to get into the chat
thechao5> Thank you for understanding
entrepreneur> You are a member of BME correct?
thechao5> Ambassador TO BME
entrepreneur> One of your nations, your main, is in the federation BME
entrepreneur> let me assure this and this alone is the reason for my agression
thewhy has become available
thechao5> Correct
thechao5> It is in there for communication purposes
entrepreneur> BME, and I have had hostilities, and while taking the appearance of sheep, they are lined against one of my slaves
thewhy> can anyone give me a full overview on stealth bombers?
entrepreneur> try the documentation thewhy
thewhy> i did
entrepreneur> yeah that sux then
thewhy> its not comprehensive
entrepreneur> aries probably will be happy to break it down for you
thewhy> are they part of federation defense
entrepreneur> star, I am going to get to the point becuase I have to leave myself.
thechao5> Yes?
entrepreneur> As long as any of your nations remain in this BME federation, your nation will be targeted. You can of course change this, by removing your countries from these feds.
thechao5> What about for communication purposes?
thechao5> Should I just stick to directly messaging Jan and Nico?
thechao5> Well, alright then
the_wicked_lady> He just joined so he could email, Wendy, he is not actively involved in my federation
entrepreneur> If you do, you will have peace. If you do not, you will find yourself in a most grievous war. And while some may try to prevent the inevitable, I don't want to be a hard case, I hope they can give you the proper course of action
entrepreneur> but my actions and terms are clear for you to have peace
entrepreneur> you can follow in the footsteps of other players who have avoided war by simply coming to terms
thechao5> Alright
entrepreneur> silence jannikins
thewhy> sigh*
the_wicked_lady> you only further demonstrate that you are a game bully
the_wicked_lady> i will let you hang yourself, dear lol
the_wicked_lady> i don't have to say anything
thewhy> entrepreneur we have had some discussion about you in my federation The Union
entrepreneur> on the contrary, this has been an excellent exercise in diplomacy
thewhy> seems your attacking my fedmates "colonies" on LU
entrepreneur> so what about it why
entrepreneur> did you wanna be a hero?
entrepreneur> I can make you famous
the_wicked_lady> i think i'll post this convo in the forum to demonstrate lol
entrepreneur> please do
thewhy> he said you said that we talk shit about you
entrepreneur> there are two cchoices, on the one hand there is war and fighting,
thechao5> That was a misunderstanding
entrepreneur> on the other there is peace and life
entrepreneur> choose life
thewhy> seems i was misinformed... nevermind
entrepreneur> I hope this is easy for you star, I hope you enjoy your many game years of peace
thewhy> continue with your warmongering on LU.... us Patrician White Gianters dont care
entrepreneur> at least until aries and jack come knocking lol
entrepreneur> why as why?
thewhy> ??
entrepreneur> you are speaking from a position of ignorance and fear
thewhy> how so
entrepreneur> but you create a problem where you have none with your shapr tongue
entrepreneur> I have done nothing to you
thewhy> i am creating no problem
thewhy> i agree
entrepreneur> so please, there is no need to be provocative
thewhy> im not trying to be provacative let me buy you a beer
entrepreneur> thanks
thewhy> lol
thechao5> Ardglassian alchohol is dangerously strong
entrepreneur> I will return it to you 10 fold
thewhy> then let me buy you another
the_wicked_lady> so wendy, question
thechao5> I dun think you want some Ardglassian whisky
entrepreneur> no question jannikins, you haven't earned that
the_wicked_lady> what do you achieve by bullying these players who are nowhere near your gaming level?
the_wicked_lady> your arrogance is just a facade, wendy
entrepreneur> I only speak to level headed players interested in developing into the game, not crying and whining and complaining your way to meaningless changes
entrepreneur> are you ready to finish what you started with me jannikins?
the_wicked_lady> aaaaaaaaaaah i will do whatever i have to do to kill players like you in the game, you abuse it
entrepreneur> have you gleaned enough wisdom and insights about the war game from aries yet?
the_wicked_lady> you ruin it
entrepreneur> he is your mentor is he not?
the_wicked_lady> Wendy, it is time that you stop dictating how I play my game
the_wicked_lady> you need to concern yourself with yours
entrepreneur> jannikins... POP QUIZ
thewhy> ive noticed some war level 3 small empires on WG but i have restrained myself from attacking even after my long period of abstinence that has been ongoing since the game began
the_wicked_lady> if i choose to war, i will
thewhy> instead i ask them to be my friend
the_wicked_lady> if i choose not to, i won't
entrepreneur> POP QUIZ
the_wicked_lady> and i'm not interested in your quiz
entrepreneur> can you cry your way out of this thing of ours?
entrepreneur> no, we will finish it
entrepreneur> in this game
entrepreneur> so please stop this
the_wicked_lady> stop what?
entrepreneur> crying
the_wicked_lady> i've done nothing but defend
entrepreneur> its just ugly
the_wicked_lady> i'm not crying, i fully think what you are doing is wrong
the_wicked_lady> you have become everything you said you stood against in the game
entrepreneur> I know, and I want you to do something about it
entrepreneur> in the game
entrepreneur> I am begging you to participate with the rest of us that play the game
the_wicked_lady> what makes you think i'm not playing the game?
the_wicked_lady> oh wait.......i'm not playing YOUR game
entrepreneur> or I yours?
entrepreneur> is that a paradox?
the_wicked_lady> then leave me alone
the_wicked_lady> lol
entrepreneur> you wanted to ask me a question
entrepreneur> I tried to shoo you off but you can't help yourself
the_wicked_lady> i already asked it, but you were too self involved to notice
entrepreneur> I never bothered you
entrepreneur> I'll wait jannikins, there you can stop now okay
the_wicked_lady> well you play your game, it has no bearing on me and what i do
entrepreneur> don't get to excited
entrepreneur> not good
entrepreneur> calm down
entrepreneur> woooosah!
the_wicked_lady> you can run all my mates off, it's okay
entrepreneur> wooosah!
the_wicked_lady> so have fun, you only waste your energy, you aren't hurting me at all
entrepreneur> I am not running them off, I am giving them a chance to take a step in the right direction
entrepreneur> and they will become stronger as a result
the_wicked_lady> and who says what you think is the right direction?
entrepreneur> not wasting thier time being your human shields
the_wicked_lady> oh i forgot, you CONTROL the game
the_wicked_lady> they aren't my human shields at all lol
entrepreneur> but growing and becoming pillars in the community
entrepreneur> through action and gameplay, not whining and complaining
the_wicked_lady> i've not asked anyone but Aries to annihilate you ha ha ha
the_wicked_lady> oh and jack
entrepreneur> indeed
the_wicked_lady> and Serpent
entrepreneur> how is that going?
the_wicked_lady> ha ha ha
the_wicked_lady> it's a joke, wendy
the_wicked_lady> i dun have to ask
entrepreneur> I know, I've been laughing at you all this time
the_wicked_lady> well i'm glad that i can entertain you, cuz you have equally entertained us all
entrepreneur> I'll wait jannikins
entrepreneur> and then I will entertain myself
the_wicked_lady> well you keep waiting
the_wicked_lady> ha ha ha ha
entrepreneur> with the voice of your cries to the game gods
entrepreneur> they feed my simchildren
the_wicked_lady> i think i'll do a real voice clip of my cry next time
the_wicked_lady> put on my best voice
the_wicked_lady> ha ha ha ha
entrepreneur> lol
the_wicked_lady> might even manage a sniff and a small gasp
entrepreneur> Okay I have to go, you people have fun. Star, remember our agreement. Please.
thechao5> Can I just put in one thing?
thechao5> Right
entrepreneur> Go aheaad, I am listening
thechao5> Imma have the chair of BME have a slave that'll join in a Union-BME Embassy fed
entrepreneur> you must have misunderstood me
thechao5> You said quit BME, yes?
entrepreneur> yes, no association
the_wicked_lady> i guess that means you can't talk to me any more, cuz Wendy says so
entrepreneur> but that of course is a choice, you can make whichever you like
thechao5> Cut all Union-BME diplomatic ties?
entrepreneur> read between the lines star. Or we'll get to know each other a little better
thechao5> I am quitting BME
entrepreneur> I have to go
the_wicked_lady> good, finally some fresh air
thechao5> I'm just trying to have a line of communication between the Union and BME
entrepreneur> If you need anything star, why just drop me a line at my country
thechao5> I will
thechao5> I'll try and figure something out
the_wicked_lady> star, love, she wants you to have no line of communication with me in the game
entrepreneur> I don't care if you talk
entrepreneur> that isn't my concern
entrepreneur> but federation, tsk, tsk, she asking for you to get in trouble
entrepreneur> and she'll watch me pick you apart and do nothing
the_wicked_lady> you must really fear us, wenders
entrepreneur> not even lift a finger
entrepreneur> who is us?
thechao5> What do you suggest for a diplomatic communication line?
the_wicked_lady> makes me feel so empowered
the_wicked_lady> so i thank you
entrepreneur> have a good night, I have a feeling this meeting is only going to prolong the inevitable
thechao5> I'm trying to avoid conflict
the_wicked_lady> aaaaaaaaaaaah i'm not concerned, Wendy
thechao5> I'm jsut a communication line
the_wicked_lady> i will just further my pleas with the GMs to change this game to deter players like you
thechao5> But anywho, goodnight all
entrepreneur> yawns
entrepreneur> whine away
the_wicked_lady> and trust me, i have the public relations/communications background to be successful
entrepreneur> I'll wait jannikins
the_wicked_lady> nite!
thewhy> i believe dyna is considered a diplomatic envoy of the union to BME and we dont appreciate you attacking him
entrepreneur> roger that
thewhy> do you feel our unappreciativeness?
thewhy> its quite strong
entrepreneur> hehe
thewhy> and i just got stealth bombers
thewhy has left
thewhy has become available
killson has become available
killson> What's going on guys?
thechao5> Diplomacy never got so low
thechao5> Lol,jk
thechao5> Stuff happened, but I dun have a word for it
thechao5> Perhaps manufunctioning synergy
thechao5 has left
aries has left
the_wicked_lady> well i think i've had enough of the game for one night
entrepreneur has left
the_wicked_lady> g'nite everyone |
| asurfaholic | Tuesday, September 17, 2013 - 11:22 pm
Well, as a member of BME...
I don't exactly know the history of the problems between who and who..
But I do believe there is a peaceful solution somewhere in the mix, and I am interested in finding it. One that allows all parties to enjoy themselves.
One thing for sure is, I don't believe that "in game bullying" is cause for any GM intervention. This is a political game, a strategy game, and most of all a role playing game. If a GM was to step in and halt the natural progression of the forces that guide the game, then we would not have a fair/natural playing environment, and it would not be fun anymore. I'd rather play with risk of running into a bully, or any other risk for that matter, than play a game where there is red tape drawn up everywhere, and it is completely "safe."
That being said, while I see how some might think it is bullying based on the actions that wendy has taken, I do not even think of it as bullying. It is a persistent reminder that there is still diplomacy to work on, and alot of work to do to repair past transgressions.
I for one am ready to take this to the next level, work out the problems, and move on towards peace. (without GM help)
Surf |
| Star Foth | Tuesday, September 17, 2013 - 11:37 pm
Not everyone has fun with risk, though.
I want my slaves at risk while my leader country can play the economic game. That way, I can get both sides of this game . |
| asurfaholic | Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 12:00 am
Star...
how you did it. I dont know..
But you missed the whole point.. |
| Star Foth | Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 12:07 am
I get the point, I was just stating my opinion. I just didn't comment on the main point, is that a crime? |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 12:49 am
Okay, perhaps I am stressing it too far, but I am having players come to me in distress, and I feel obligated to stick up for them.
I will say no more on the topic and just leave it. I have come to the conclusion that a player supposedly has a right to torment and make another player's existence in the game miserable. So I will take under advisement as to whether I wish to pursue being a part of said type game and whether I wish to continue to invest money into it. I still say this is a great game.......used to be a lot of fun, and maybe with me out of the "limelight" things will settle down a bit.
I love you all. I have tried to stand up for the little guy in the game to no avail, and I quite frankly feel defeated. I am going to proceed quietly in the game. I informed the gamemaster that I have said my final opinion on the matter. I leave you all to it.
I will no longer lobby for right or wrong. I'm just gonna play my game til I get bored and move on.
Happy Simcountry! |
| Lord Lee | Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 01:03 am
Wendy is not a bully. She is a diplomatic world leader who is asserting her right as a world leader. She is an Empress in her own right. |
| Space313 | Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 01:06 am
lol, and I am a diplomatic world leader asserting my concern as a world member, I am an emperor under MY OWN RIGHT. |
| J. Marcus | Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 03:06 am
I support you Jen! what you are doing is right in my opinion! godspeed! |
| thewhy | Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 04:19 am
dont go above wl2? thats not fun..... i think instead of going to the gm to make new obnoxious rules we should work within the existing system known as the Security Council.... people should question their motives for war out of fear of the SC and wider community scrutiny.... if they want to be a lonely rogue state... hey it keeps the game interesting |
| Space313 | Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 05:12 am
True Ard, but here's the thing, NULO has corrupted the Security Council so far, that they threaten to attack if they don't obey. So yeah. |
| Philipp Bauer | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 03:50 pm
We should just break ties, save us the misery of having to spend money... We didn't even discuss relations with the BME (A Federation that was Threatening us no less than 10 years ago), all of a sudden, a few days ago, most of the Union just became aware that we have "A Diplomatic Envoy" in the BME... Absurd and unconstitutional, never discussed in the GA as is standard, so I believe the Ambassador is not valid, or legal at all. I voice against this war. Other than that, I have no comment on the situation, this is more a personal vendetta that is dragging a peaceful Federation in another planet to war for being in a relation with another Federation that its membership didn't even approve of or were advised of! |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 07:06 pm
Well Wolfie, seeing as The Union has no representation on LU, you have no jurisdiction there or to tell Star where he can or cannot play if he chooses to play on that world. I think he used that term to try and explain to the game bully that he was there as an "envoy" of sorts, not really BME, but a friend to BME in a world his federation was not represented. Hardly unconstitutional. |
| WildStallion | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 07:19 pm
I'm getting bored of this book it seems to be dragging on for a while and not really getting to the point of the main issue.... |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 07:36 pm
Then don't read the book, WildStallion. |
| WildStallion | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 07:52 pm
I knew that post would get a comment off someone, I WAS actually reading a book to be honest, but thought hey i'd be clever and look it worked - somebody got reeled in hook line and sinker lol  |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 08:00 pm
Dun make me mad! I'll smack you wif a shoe, and you know it!!! SCOWL!!!!!! I bet our book is better! :P |
| WildStallion | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 08:07 pm
No no shoes please, i don't fancy walking around with a stiletto stuck in my forehead thanks, and re your book - i don't know you know lol |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 08:45 pm
I have seriously thought of writing a book based off this game ha ha ha ha I think it would be a best seller! |
| WildStallion | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 08:58 pm
Now there's a thought, you best get writing then and get it published and sold on Amazon in all formats. Now if there was to be a film who would you have playing you lol ? |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 09:00 pm
ha ha ha ha I would prob get Sarah Jessica Parker. She strikes me as a shoe kinda gal. :P |
| WildStallion | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 09:05 pm
I would get John Cena as he has the same style as me, and physique, and morals etc, plus re my profile icon in the forum and as he says - You can't see me lol |
| Killson | Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 10:19 pm
Wait wait...takes off my shades!
John Cena "WHAT" WS,u didn't say that...tell me you did not just say that |
| Nico | Friday, September 20, 2013 - 02:16 am
Back on the subject lol...
Dyna, you will be back immediately. I apologize for any confusion.
Wolf,
You have no say on what goes on here on LU. As far as I'm concerned, The Union is not on LU at this point and time. If Dyna wants to stay, he will stay, you have no say.
I wasn't notified of a Union ambassador either. But if The Union and BME relations go well, we will need a ambassador. Again, Dyna will be invited to come back to BME. It will be his choice to join or deny the invite |
| Philipp Bauer | Friday, September 20, 2013 - 05:50 am
Dyna can choose whether to join or not, but he is not there to represent as an appointed Envoy or Ambassador from the Union whatsoever. Unless a proper voting procedure is placed at home. We have jurisdiction on that mind yourselves. So he can do what he wishes, but not under Federal Backing.
And yes I do have a say if it involves my Federation mind yourselves again... Or threatens the Union's security as is the case! If Dyna were there just "Because" I wouldn't even be opening this thread.
I intend on making the NLUO aware that we have no specific Federal Approved relations with the BME at the moment in an effort to avoid conflict or the prolongation of it.
Also, New Wisco, a member that wished to remain in my Federation, was apparently forced out of the Union by Jan, why? I do not really bother to find out. I believe this is the same case, just reversed and my my you are very against my simple message that Dyna is no Ambassador... But we won't apply such action as we do not have any laws regarding that presently and we are quite liberal.
Other than that, I voice again against Wendy. And the NLUO. And their preposterous threats that threaten friendships and unity in both planets and I do not intend to offend anyone, I am always very direct... A problem Americans are very sensitive with.
We hope to a diplomatic resolution and if there can be none, I hope that the BME can defend comrade Flippy until the Union can somehow... Support. I thank you if you respond first to any attacks directed at him in the days to come. Seeing as you are the main wall against the Bully. |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Friday, September 20, 2013 - 01:23 pm
Wolfie,
Wisco was not forced by me to leave the Union. No one is forced to stay in BME or made to play in my federation. Typically when you are in a federation, and your federation is represented on several worlds, you play the same federation. It never works to play different feds, because sadly politics from one world can carry over to another world. It creates conflicts of interest. I just wanted to make this clear. I explained this to Wisco, and he made the choice to stay with BME. |
| Serpent | Friday, September 20, 2013 - 03:39 pm
Quote:A problem Americans are very sensitive with.
I'm offended (overly sensitive) LOL to the fact that you stereotype and group all Americans the same. If I recall correctly you are German, correct? Therefore, maybe I should stereotype you as the historically typical German? |
| Philipp Bauer | Friday, September 20, 2013 - 06:37 pm
Stereotype all you want Serpent, I have also been offended by a lot of Americans and British people (Think the same, love to remember the "Glories of WW2", nothing Glorious of death and I do not generalise on the latter, just my experiences with most Americans I meet, love to joke about Nazism and WW2 eh?). We don't bother with Americans politically or historically, or much of Europe as a matter a fact... Unfortunately our pro-American Governments say otherwise. I made that statement based on several real encounters and game encounters here with people being offended of how direct I am. So to assume is a good thing. Your society is built on euphemisms and reverse psychology, mine is not.
But I wont turn this into a Cultural and Political argument because of you, usually ends up in pointless patriotic tirades which no one likes, hence why I never mention my views on politics or the world stage.
@Jan; I understand Jan, and its unfortunate, but we care the war spilling to WG, something we hope does not happen just because of Dyna's Membership. All the best |
| Serpent | Friday, September 20, 2013 - 08:29 pm
Now you see my point? You made what could be taken as a slightly offensive remark about a group of people (easily offended Americans). However in truth Im not offended, as in reality there is prolly more truth to sterotypes than many of us would like to admit. But the point is, you took exception to the 'historically typical German' remark I made. Thereby displaying your 'sensitivity'.
There are many types of Americans as there are Germans. I know many Germans that have a wide range of personalities, some direct, like you say you are, some not so much.... just like Americans. There really is not much difference, maybe a small amount culturally, but even then, not as much as you might think.
As far as politics, I have no delusions that the USA is the one all and be all of the world. Nor do I feel that the Caucasian race is any bit superior in intelligence or ability than any other race.
The whole point of my post was to illustrate that you have 'sensitivities' just like the 'problem that Americans have'. |
| Roving EYE | Saturday, September 21, 2013 - 12:32 am
id like our name wiped from this accusation of bullying please! |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Saturday, September 21, 2013 - 02:17 am
Well Wolfie,
If your group comes under attack by Wendy, just because Star joined BME on LU, just to talk to me and Nico.........then I think that further validates that this player is not only a bully on LU but pretty much across the game. |
| Philipp Bauer | Saturday, September 21, 2013 - 03:27 am
I didn't have a problem with you calling me a historically typical German, I actually encouraged you to proceed, many Germans are used to foreign Ignorance... And there is a huge difference in regards to culture between America and Germany serpent... a Huge gaping one. Specifically in regards to traditions.
@Jan - Yes Jan, that would initiate a SC wide campaign to wipe her out once and for all, these times she must tread very carefully. |
| Serpent | Saturday, September 21, 2013 - 07:30 am
To one degree or another all nationalities have become accustomed to 'foreign ignorance'.
I suppose 'a Huge gaping' difference in culture is a point of view statement. Maybe others do not see the differences as being to grand only minor.
Oh well, tsk tsk. |
| Philipp Bauer | Saturday, September 21, 2013 - 10:07 pm
I fail to see similarity... Perhaps Western Values, other than that... Maybe your statement better applies to there being really not much difference between the UK & the US, considering usage of the same language and other... resemblances. |
| WildStallion | Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 04:02 pm
History shows otherwise. |
| thewhy | Monday, September 23, 2013 - 01:53 am
is it possible that because for thousands of years people in europe were genetically selected for having physiological attributes as a result of living in higher population densities and the main threat of death being disease rather then living in conditions that select for intelligence such as in places like australia and indonesia where the main threat of death was war or accidents that people in these places are actually smarter |
| Nico | Monday, September 23, 2013 - 02:04 am
The more you know.............. |
| The Honey Badger | Monday, September 23, 2013 - 06:27 am
Pretty the threat of death because of war was a bigger problem in Europe than Australia. Just saying. |
| The Honey Badger | Monday, September 23, 2013 - 10:49 am
*sure |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Monday, September 23, 2013 - 03:38 pm
*clears throat
Ummmmmmmmmmm y'all have hijacked my thread!!!!! :P
I think Imma gonna turn into a game bully and start throwing shoes at everyone!!! ha ha ha ha
Love you ALL!!! |
| Nico | Monday, September 23, 2013 - 09:55 pm
Can't touch this! |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 02:44 am
Pfft I'm aiming at you first!!! :P |
| Nico | Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 09:43 pm
I got the moves like jagger |
| WildStallion | Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 10:25 pm
You must be on about his Brother Chris or his Daughter Bianca, don't think it was Mick you were on about, or is it the local village idiot - Thick Jagger lol |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 12:01 am
When you say Jagger, I think Mick Jagger of the Stones. ha ha ha I'm showing my age. ha ha ha ha |
| Nico | Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 01:54 am
SCOWL! Lol. Gotta love ya WS haha :P
And back when you were a kid, Jan, America was still fighting of independence! Hahaha |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 07:04 pm
SCOWL!!!!!!!! Mmmmmmmmm yummy Devil Dogs. Do you have any? I do. *laughs evilly |
| Nico | Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 08:59 pm
SCOOOOOOOOOWWWWL! GIVE ME THAT! GROOOOOOOOOWL! DONT WANNA FIND OUT WHAT COMES NEXT! |
| Space313 | Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 11:01 pm
Ooooo, look at that new pic. I just might eat you just right now! Or I would plant you in the ground to see more little "Nicos" run around, then just eat them. |
| Nico | Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 11:14 pm
Don't eat me. Please :'( |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 11:39 pm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm that makes me hungry ha ha ha ha |
| Nico | Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 11:49 pm
Lol too bad you can't get any of this! :P |
| thewhy | Thursday, September 26, 2013 - 01:25 am
honeybadger almost the only way people non farming societies died other then old age was war or accidents (falling out of a tree) compared to what was it 2/3s of europe died from the plague? while they did have disease they didnt have diseases that would kill you as in a low population density a disease requires its host to live for a long time in order to keep spreading and surviving.... as a percent of the population war deaths in pre agrarian societies were far higher then in places like europe where the leading cause of death by far was disease.... |
| jmcwhelan96 | Friday, October 4, 2013 - 06:10 am
i say the whole of SC should switch over and play planetside 2 on the matherson server =P |
| thewhy | Sunday, October 6, 2013 - 10:08 pm
dude its only for Windows!! |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Monday, October 7, 2013 - 04:21 pm
Stop hijacking my thread! SCOWL!!! This is dedicated ONLY to RAGE AGAINST THE BULLY MACHINE! :P |
| Roving EYE | Saturday, October 12, 2013 - 12:31 am
im not a bully..................but after today............our stance now changes!
PEEPS on lu and every other world, better get something to right on, GET YOUR DAMN CARDS OUT FOOLS, TARGET US AT YOUR PERIL |
