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Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 07:11 pm  Presidents and Chief Executive Officers of Little Upsilon this is your chance to be involved in virtual politics, diplomacy, and current affairs in the Little Upsilon World Government! See real democracy in action and be apart of that democracy. Please message/contact the secretary general: King Hezekiah II of the "Israelite Empire". Lord Lee.
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| Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 08:25 pm There are some government positions vacant at the moment and we have a wide range of presidents of all political description. We are growing, and going from strength to strength. Lord Lee.
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| Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 09:08 pm yes! come one and all! If you enjoy being ordered around, cheated, threatened, and just plain Bullied, then this is the place for you! like being Lied to? want a place where policy can be changed at a whim? as long as you are Hezzekiah and Lord Lee that is! then come be a part of this lieing manipulating dictatorship called the NLUO. after all its only the second try at this dictators rise! be a part of something special! the rise of the self proclaimed Elite few that wish to rule the world! after all what have you got to lose? well nothing when they are done with you! 
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| Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:25 pm Unfortunately there are some envious presidents out there like shave. He has caused trouble in the past for the NLUO (Little Upsilon Government), and what he has posted is untrue and far from the truth. We are above all else a democratic government that treats all members of the NLUO with equality, fairness, and respect. Please contact: King Hezekiah II of the "Israelite Empire" and join today. Lord Lee.
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| Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:34 pm This person who attacks the NLUO is actually a member of the NLUO, and he did not want to go through the correct channels to help move forward the government. His whole ambition was to be the one who toppled the Hezekiah Administration, through the LU International Criminal Court. He is also apart of a federation of nations called Hydra whose sole purpose of being created was to oppose, and destroy the NLUO World Government. If Shave would have gone through the proper channels, he could have had a better experience in the government. There are 3 issues that has come up, which has gotten up to this point. It started with President Crafty upset with the fact that our government seats nations and empires in the Joint Chiefs of Staff Federation Congress according to the size and strength of their empires, and their federations. There are 85 regions so, this government covers all of those regions. There is a seat in the congress for every region of Little Upsilon. Crafty found his empire seated because of his occupation of the specific region. He was contacted to join the NLUO, and he replied in an unfavorable way. I then made a statement that the world government "governs the world of LU", and this caused a cold war, and the establishment of Hydra, via the None Aligned Nations. Hydra's creation was an open declaration of war. The NLUO set up an emergency executive order for war, and the secretary of Defense position was created, and the decs went out. This calmed things for a time. Then came the "Crafty/Lord Lee Situation, which flamed more separation, and suspicion. Then came the GAZ Hostle Corp bid, then came the GAZ hostile takeover of Presidnt Slayerofgods assets, which belong to the NLUO since his empire went inactive when he was apart of the NLUO. Now you have the situation of Shave's infultration of the NLUO, and systematic division of the NLUO as a government. As if there is not already a division through our political affiliations. These nations who come against the NLUO have no discipline. They do not want to live under a political organization, and make a mark through the organization. No, these nations would rather try to destroy it, rather than just join, learn it, and use it. You will find that it is very fun, interactive, and works with the game of sim country even down to the political parties. The old order is individual nations gain political power through the size of their nation, how long they have been playing the game, and the federation they belong to. In this government it does not matter how big your nation is. You can yield as much power as the constitution allows, as well as make changes for your own personal cause if you would like. Through this political organization you will learn, war, international politics, government, economics, and general interaction. All you have to do is take a chance. If you don't like the government, you are free to leave at any time. Nations who do not want to be apart of the government do not have to be, we will never bother you unless that nation is interfering in the interests of this government. It is up to you LU. You see the many threads. You see the links. Public voting World government was accepted by a majority. Federations having money in their feds is accepted. This game is moving to a world government style of play. WHY? it is because of the organization. Period. Power in numbers and organization.
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| Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:42 pm after all that, keep in mind, their are people that have been with this from the beginning, that have been unable to effect any positive change. and have commented to such on the forums
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| Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:44 pm Well said King Hezekiah II.
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| Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:54 pm There is a little thing called "the Majority" is the main obstacle in front of them. If they can muster support the sky is the limit. I did not mean this post in disrespect Josias, as I do know that the Old order says you are a powerful Empire on LU. In the NLUO, you would be one of many.
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| Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:59 pm Ty Secretary King Lord Lee. I thank you for your stedfast leadership as one of the founding fathers of the NLUO world government.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 12:01 am but, as the NLUO invites you to join it, to make it better. "Shave, I would challenge you to join the government and help shape the policy you feel is so misguided. This would be a desirable outcome for this discussion. " Wendy, from Little Upsilon Executive Election January 7, 3088 but they don't really want you to... "I would be quite annoyed to find anyone joining with the intent to cause internal strife and not become a genuine member of our community. " Wendy, same, about the same guy so, as every one can see for themselves. the flowery words, and high ideals, are nothing but a ruse, so that they can claim the majority... not enough? their are dozens of threads, and hundreds of post, you can see for yourself the quality of leadership.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 12:15 am The NLUO government is evolving and is going from strength to strength. Shave is facing several charges and not to be trusted, so don't let his lies deter you.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 12:24 am considering the controversy of just the first 12 posts in this thread, i'd encourage all those un-aware, to read the recent serious posts by this group, and get a feel for their leadership, before rushing to judgement
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:02 am As I have already stated, the NLUO (Little Upsilon Government) is evolving, and you could shape its destiny too. Many presidents have differing opinions, that is why we are a democracy so the majority rule. In our forum: www.nluo.webs.com You can debate policies, propose policies to become law, elect leaders and positions of responsibility, participate in government, or even become a diplomat. Josias wants to portray us as a sinister organization but nothing could be further from the truth.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:17 am To all of the LU community, take the time to read all posts made by the NLUO members and other members of the "non-aligned" group, as the NLUO refers to players who haven't joined nluo, and you will see the truth of what that government is all about. Everything they say in forums has contradicted what the nluo was set up to do in the first place. Yes they have policies in place the nluo members can vote on, but, if you are against any of those votes, they will create a new law to oust those who are against policies set forth by the nluo. The top members of nluo have their own agenda, and any input form lower ranks within that government have no say in any policies or laws set forth. Like I said at the beginning of my post, take the time to read all posts in the forums regarding anything to do with nluo or Hydra, and you will see the real agenda of nluo. Join Hydra!
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:20 am Also I want to add something that King Hezekiah II picked upon about the "Hydra" federation which Josias is a fully fledged member of! The "Hydra" federation's sole purpose of being created was to oppose, and destroy the NLUO World Government." So I wouldn't let Josias bamboozle you.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:24 am so, now that lee has brought it up. not only am i a member, i'm also a founder so, read the hydra threads also, and you get a little different flavor for what hydra is, then how lee describes it.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:27 am Keto is another Hydra member whose sole purpose is to destroy the NLUO World Government for the sake of it! We in the NLUO of course have disagreements but we come together as one and vote on issues we disagree with. If someone disagrees with you on an issue in the NLUO, we have discussion and debate and more importantly respect.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:31 am The Hydra federation was set up to destroy democracy! It's nothing to be proud of Josias!
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:33 am The NLUO is a great government. I am a current member. I have 1 slave nation. I am a small empire. I was the Secretary of LU Security. I worked hand and hand with Lord Lee in his role on the Security Council to get developmental aid to new and debt ridden economies. I ran for Secretary General. I started out as an Expansionist, but I changed political affiliations. I am now an Isolationist. This party fits my ideology more. I have never wanted to leave this government. If I would not have joined this government, I would have not even enjoyed the power and responsibility I had. I had so much fun running for Secretary General. I got some much publicity, and now my name is a household name. I would have never been able to achieve this how the big empires and federations deal on LU without the NLUO. So, I am a small nation who got to drink of the cup of power, and I liked it. But now, I have no position because have to resign your position, when you run for Secretary General if it an executive position. But I am not leaving the government. I will just lobby my representative of my region to get what I want done. King Hezekiah and the NLUO federation represents the Decambra region in the Federation Congress, so I contact him for legislation I want passed based on how my country is done. So, this is a good government. VIVA LA NLUO!!!!
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:22 am Lol I am sorry, but calling yourself a household name was kinda funny xD Although many like Herod and I have gone from unknown to somewhat known ( ;-) ) do not delude yourselves- the NLUO is not a publicity firm. The membership strives to better LU through different avenues. We haven't always been in the right- anyone can tell you that. But many of us do fight for the good of all nations, not just our own. Explore your options, but when reviewing the NLUO (or any other org) review it with an impartial mind, and let the organization speak for itself.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:35 am The members of the NLUO are the government and we're all equal. Sometimes we have difference of opinion but we all want to make the NLUO government work, not just for us but for the whole of the Little Upsilon Community.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:40 am Lord Lee Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:20 am Click here to edit this post Also I want to add something that King Hezekiah II picked upon about the "Hydra" federation which Josias is a fully fledged member of! The "Hydra" federation's sole purpose of being created was to oppose, and destroy the NLUO World Government." So I wouldn't let Josias bamboozle you. Hydra initially posted that comment but quickly recanted, which I might add, that comment was stated because of the fact that nluo members had taken c3 next to members of Hydra for the purpose of attacking. Lord Lee Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:27 am Click here to edit this post Keto is another Hydra member whose sole purpose is to destroy the NLUO World Government for the sake of it! We in the NLUO of course have disagreements but we come together as one and vote on issues we disagree with. If someone disagrees with you on an issue in the NLUO, we have discussion and debate and more importantly respect. Yes you have votes but they are onsided votes which benefit the 3 higher ranked members of nluo. Like I said before nluo, your backs are up against a wall, and your organization has no where to go. The LU community has spoken. Your days are numbered. Members are leaving nluo in swarms.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:48 am Whose days are numbered?! Well, I'm not going anywhere. Keto you and your whole horde couldn't move me. Your pals are running up the war levels in record fashion. If you collectively in the span of a few years couldn't move me how do intend to move a few more players just like me? You keep talking loose like that you are going to get someone 'damn-neared' and you'll be the one to blame.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:03 am Sweetpea, you are insignificant. I was speaking of the nluo
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:04 am they say they want to make it a better place for the LU community, but they callously refuse to except input from the same community, or even offer it any kinda of respect, by communicating with it, or negotiating, or even settling in the live harmoniously with the community itself! for instance, i've backed down, publicly, from the "destroy the NLUO," statement. however, the only half of the story told by the NLUO is that our very existence is a declaration of war. It is infact in Hez's post above. its true that the Hydra started out aggressive, but we've toned down. and even offered to negotiate with the NLUO, how ever, we were refused. we asked for peace, but had the door shut on us. yet, they constantly claim our very existence is a declaration of war. that is why i'm encouraging all players considering this... read through the things the NLUO leadership has said. Some of them will shock you, seriously!
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:08 am Bamboozle Alert! Keto and Josias are at it again! There whole ethos is to cause distrust and division! They don't care about the international community of Little Upsilon and building bridges. They just want to destroy it. They can't stand the fact that many hard working players are achieving what they can only dream of. Who in their right minds would want to be apart or even associated with Hydra? Ask yourselves what aims and accomplishments do they have? What is their ideology? We on the other hand have achieved so much thanks to the hard work of King Hezekiah II, Wendy, King Herod VI, and many more besides.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:16 am but we aren't recruiting for hydra here, this is your thing, about your fed. but what are our ideals? Hydra, a multi-headed serpent, each head (player,) has a voice and a will, yet we work together, to ensure our own sovereignty
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:23 am Only recently they sent one of there very misguided agents in to join the NLUO government with the sole aim of destroying it. The agent caused trouble and strive for NLUO but we came together and now are even stronger as a democracy and even more determined. Keto wrote: "Members are leaving nluo in swarms." This couldn't be further from the truth! We are growing and gaining members.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:25 am Josias we are not a federation! We are the Little Upsilon Government! There is a difference!
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:33 am Lord lee nothing u say is truthfull. Nluo posts speak for themselves. Again nothing nluo members talk about in the forums reflect the idealogies sort forth by the nluo administration. Keep digging your hole deeper.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:45 am The only hole I'm digging, is the dig for victory that the NLUO government will succeed and become an even greater democracy.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:48 am Here Here !!! Mr. secretary... This is the fact as to why they do not want to go forward. They don't want anything bigger than a federation on LU. If there is such an organization, their power as a big empire, and a big federation means nothing up against world wide government with multiple federations, and multiple empires under one banner.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:55 am Here Here!! Mr. secretary...LMFAO! We as a federation can have the whole of LU join us. We don't need to be a dictatorship style government to have the LU community join us. They will join us after reading all the previous posts made by nluo members, and find out what a farce the nluo really is. A quick example would be the internal strife between members and the one-sided judicial process that is in place within the nluo. Your government is a joke and nothing but a dictatorship. The sooner you come to terms with that the better we'll all be.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:03 am aww well, my point is that players should read a little, before they jump into this. which is odd, that not once did any of you NLUO folks second that idea... hmmm anyways, i'm sure you'd agree that their shouldn't be a problem with players being informed of the general behavior of their fed leaders. by reading their posts. and deciding if they want to be attached to such.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:07 am Ty Mr. Secretary Josias, well said
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:16 am good grief, we got a patent on that "Secretary" title.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:19 am lmao
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:25 am Here here Mr. Secretary Josias, that lmao was a politically correct reply, according to Hydra rules and regulations. I will not set forth a vote to have that comment removed.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:29 am Josias wrote: "aww well, my point is that players should read a little, before they jump into this. which is odd, that not once did any of you NLUO folks second that idea... hmmm" Sounds good doesn't it? Well not quite, when you've been set up. Keto and Josias of the Hydra federation sent a spy into the NLUO government with the sole purpose of trying to bring the leadership and integrity down with it, thus destroying the NLUO government. Fortunately they did not succeed and we are even greater and stronger as a democracy and community than ever before Josias would like presidents to look through some previous posts in this forum to see a conflict that was caused by his spy! He wants to prove a point that we aren't a good decent solid democratic organization. Well it sure did backfire and now the perpetrator is awaiting trial.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:33 am Are you sure its the real Josias.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:34 am except, they can pull up nearly any nluo thread, and find the NLUO in some sort of controversy. with a variety of players, and groups! its interesting that you'd say that its a trick to ask people to investigate you, before joining.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:40 am I'd hardly call sending a spy into an organization with the sole intention of destroying that organization investigating. Maybe Sabotaging is what you meant.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:41 am In all honesty lordlee, Hydra has never and will never send a spy into any foreing government(but I wouldn't put it past the nluo do to so). The player in question has been a nluo member long before he saw the true nluo government and decided to stand up for the LU community to show us the truth about the nluo. The LU community will and has read previous posts and they have seen what the nluo proposed they were when they first started, and what they really are today. Thus all the defections from the nluo. Speaking of perpetrators, why haven't top leaders of the nluo been tried for their crimes? Because there isn't sufficient evidence? And you have sufficient evidence to try nluo members for treason or whatever you concoct as a new law, who try to maintain values the nluo originally created by trying them for treason? Nice try, and remember the whole LU community has seen this.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:45 am "I'd hardly call sending a spy into an organization with the sole intention of destroying that organization investigating. Maybe Sabotaging is what you meant. " Lord Lee that is why i'd suggest players read.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:51 am I want to come out and say that I felt a little pressured by the majority of the NLUO members to drop the charges against SG King Hezekiah. I really want to leave the NLUO federation for fear of the wrath of the NLUO. Hezekiah has the Decambra region crawling with NLUO troops from several nations. I have 3 different navies docked in my harbors. I don't know if that is good, but it makes me on edge. I don't want my stats to get messed up by war. I don't like to war because I like to keep my economic stats up, but I feel like I need to beef up my defense sometimes. These are just some of my thoughts I wanted to post publically.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:57 am Pressure to drop charges against King Hezekiah? What kind of world governmemnt is that to try to try one of its own members for a crime that government created? To be a member of nluo and fear its government is no way for any player to be subjected to.(again people re-read all posts from nluo) Colonel Mahamar Gaddafi, you are welcome to join Hydra at anytime.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 05:27 am Gaddafi democracy just smacked you in your face. there is no branch of government above the law or above the majority..
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 06:33 am If you disobey the almighty NLUO they say they can: 1) Strip you of your empire. 2) Isolate you 3) Not allow you to have nuclear facilities 4) Some other mumbo jumbo I cant remember! So presidents of LU before you join, ask how they plan on enforcing their 'laws'. I have asked, but I have not received a reply. Id like somebody to come forward and answer that simple question? Anybody?
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 06:34 am Mr.Secretary Serpent, very good question
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Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:16 am Really Hez? where do you get the idea that the empire belonged to NLUO? Slayerofgods went inactive so there is no claim post morte. Honestly, I think by now people should just let NLUO get on with their thing. Players aren't stupid, they can make their own minds up. Hydra aren't helping their cause by lowering themselves to bickering. NLUO just need enough rope and they will hang themselves. Thus spoke the voice of reason.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:30 am I want to come out and say that I felt a little pressured by the majority of the NLUO members to drop the charges against SG King Hezekiah. I really want to leave the NLUO federation for fear of the wrath of the NLUO. well there you have it ladies and gentlemen the confessed truth! charges were dropped do to intimidation and fear tactics! JUST AS I SAID!!!!
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:35 pm Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi please could you be a little more diplomatic? King Hezekiah II has already stated that any member of the NLUO government is free to leave. Here's a reminder of what he said: "If you don't like the government, you are free to leave at any time. Nations who do not want to be apart of the government do not have to be, we will never bother you unless that nation is interfering in the interests of this government."
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:53 pm The NLUO currently has vacancies for more judges to sit on the bench of the International Criminal Court of Little Upsilon. This is a great time and opportunity to join as we have a trial pending at the moment.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 05:19 pm If/when convicted by YOUR court: How do you intend to 'strip' a player of their empire? How do you intend to isolate them? How do you intend to keep nuclear facilities out of their country?
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 06:58 pm How do you think we do it Serpent?
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:00 pm Suddenly Im thinking about a strong Nuclear deterrent! as I enjoy the company of all the friends I have in the Great Hydra alliance! that is right after taking a number of C3's to increase the size of my Empire! lol
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Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:03 pm
Good question.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:04 pm THEY DONT! the Icing on top of a beautiful Cake! after they attempt to put me through this joke they call a court which has absolutely no authority anywhere, they will then sit back and watch me do ALL!!!!! yes I said ALL the things they say I cant! and nothing can or will be done about it! they are the most Useless Government around! lol ROFL
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:36 pm I am not going to acknowledge Shave with a response to his ridiculous accusations.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:36 pm This person who attacks the NLUO is actually a member of the NLUO, and he did not want to go through the correct channels to help move forward the government. His whole ambition was to be the one who toppled the Hezekiah Administration, through the LU International Criminal Court. He is also apart of a federation of nations called Hydra whose sole purpose of being created was to oppose, and destroy the NLUO World Government. If Shave would have gone through the proper channels, he could have had a better experience in the government. There are 3 issues that has come up, which has gotten up to this point. It started with President Crafty upset with the fact that our government seats nations and empires in the Joint Chiefs of Staff Federation Congress according to the size and strength of their empires, and their federations. There are 85 regions so, this government covers all of those regions. There is a seat in the congress for every region of Little Upsilon. Crafty found his empire seated because of his occupation of the specific region. He was contacted to join the NLUO, and he replied in an unfavorable way. I then made a statement that the world government "governs the world of LU", and this caused a cold war, and the establishment of Hydra, via the None Aligned Nations. Hydra's creation was an open declaration of war. The NLUO set up an emergency executive order for war, and the secretary of Defense position was created, and the decs went out. This calmed things for a time. Then came the "Crafty/Lord Lee Situation, which flamed more separation, and suspicion. Then came the GAZ Hostle Corp bid, then came the GAZ hostile takeover of Presidnt Slayerofgods assets, which belong to the NLUO since his empire went inactive when he was apart of the NLUO. Now you have the situation of Shave's infultration of the NLUO, and systematic division of the NLUO as a government. As if there is not already a division through our political affiliations. These nations who come against the NLUO have no discipline. They do not want to live under a political organization, and make a mark through the organization. No, these nations would rather try to destroy it, rather than just join, learn it, and use it. You will find that it is very fun, interactive, and works with the game of sim country even down to the political parties. The old order is individual nations gain political power through the size of their nation, how long they have been playing the game, and the federation they belong to. In this government it does not matter how big your nation is. You can yield as much power as the constitution allows, as well as make changes for your own personal cause if you would like. Through this political organization you will learn, war, international politics, government, economics, and general interaction. All you have to do is take a chance. If you don't like the government, you are free to leave at any time. Nations who do not want to be apart of the government do not have to be, we will never bother you unless that nation is interfering in the interests of this government. It is up to you LU. You see the many threads. You see the links. Public voting World government was accepted by a majority. Federations having money in their feds is accepted. This game is moving to a world government style of play. WHY? it is because of the organization. Period. Power in numbers and organization.
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Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:47 pm
That's not for me to speculate on, after all it is YOUR gov. I just am curious as to how you will implement your executive orders? Why so much dancing around the issue here. Its a simple question that has I'm sure a simple answer, maybe even a few words. Why not take this time to educate a little insignificant Hydra rat and at the same time the rest of the LU community? C'mon Mr Hez, put this question to rest.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:50 pm I am not going to acknowledge Shave with a response to his ridiculous accusations. ROFL and yet if you will kindly look straight up you will see exactly what he just said he would not do, no more then a few minutes ago! lol like everything else he says! a LIE!
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:50 pm I am not stupid enough to tell you our national security policies, and strategies. If you have this information, you can try to counter it. Also I know your fed is planning an offensive against the NLUO, and your fed was seen by my radar planes in the ocean headed for the Decambra region. You guys are funny. I know everything you are doing. I have a spy in your ranks. You guys need to learn how to play chess.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:51 pm wait til he has his taxes back serpent, then you're in trouble...
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:51 pm Again, your pawn can not stand up to a knight. Get real.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:52 pm I am not going to acknowledge Shave with a response to his ridiculous accusations. don't know about anyone else but I feel pretty Acknowledged! LOL!
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:52 pm Scoff mr. Crafty if you like.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:54 pm Just backing you up Hez.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:54 pm well I gotta say then, your Spy is no more intelligent then your SoS or intell officer! ROFL
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:55 pm I am sure you are Crafty. the sarcasm is seeping out of your pores. lol.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 08:02 pm So Mr Hez, you mean to tell me it is a 'National Secret' how you intend on being able to implement your Empire stripping, your Isolation, and your ability to keep nuke facilities out of another presidents countries?
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 08:05 pm Shhh! its a Secret! LOL
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 08:22 pm you tell me about your fed's offensive.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 08:41 pm crickets oh well, we are already ready and waiting for your federation.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 08:46 pm Mr. Hez, have I not been respectful in asking for this information? Im not asking about your tactical or battle plans. But as a show of faith I will answer your question, then maybe you can likewise educate the LU community and I about how you have the ability to execute your executive orders by answering my simple question. Hydra is not engaged in an offensive campaign. We are only engaged in a defensive stance. The formation of Hydra was and is in response to a tyrannical threat that was and continues to be the stance of the NLUO. We understand that if a president chooses to be part of the NLUO that you can dictate to them whatever you desire but in NO WAY can do so outside of your NLUO federation or alliance. This has NOT been the case. Thats why when simply asked to be removed from your list of government officials you publicly published, NLUO refused and responded with a inflammatory message. You then have continued to bully and push your agenda without regard to many other presidents of LU. It does not take long for one to go back in the previous messages to find numerous examples of such speech filled with threats and actions from NLUO. Hydra stands for the ability of each president to rule their own country how they see fit. Hydra does not claim dominion over all of LU. Even within Hydra each president is allowed much freedom to choose how they want to play. If a Hydra member no longer desires to be apart of this awesome fed, they have the right and complete freedom to leave. If they do desire to leave, they will not be threatened with their empire being stripped, Isolation or attempts at denying them nuke facilities. That's Hydras response to the very question I have asked of you, can you return the favor? Edit: In response to your cricket comment, I cant always answer each of your questions in a matter of minutes, I will try to accommodate you, but patience is a virtue Mr. Hez, try to exercise it sometimes.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 08:57 pm Hydra the hypocrite federation: This federation was started by Emperor Josias/Orbiter with the sole purpose to destroy the NLUO World Government. They started a war with the NLUO already, and we won that war, and all was calm. Then Hydra hostile bid on one of my corporations. Then Hydra stole the assets of an NLUO member who went inactive. When a nation in the NLUO goes inactive, those assets belong to the NLUO. This has been a long standing statue from the old order of federation assets. So, these Hydra members have been the aggressors the whole time. Also a spin off federation was created called nononluo for propaganda purposes. Now they have planned an offensive to try and destroy the NLUO again. They claim to be the free nations of the world. More like the free dictators of the world. I have a spy in their ranks. In public they say "we do not want to destroy the NLUO." "We want to make peace with the NLUO but they refuse" end quote. This is further from the truth. They have even went so far as to threaten to nationalize an NLUO members corps just because he was an NLUO member. We need all the nations of LU to join the NLUO to help combat these rogue nations who cause strife. This federation also has a member in the NLUO, and they won't allow their federation to join the NLUO, so their fed member was not able to secure an actual position in the government. We say we govern the world of LU, who choose to be governed. This government spans the globe. We are not a federation. We are a confederacy of federations, common markets, and security council members. Join today. http://home.simcountry.com/NLUO
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:06 pm to you personally Serpent. I said I would tell you in private when we exchange intel. I am not saying it publicly.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:08 pm Public Voting: International Politics KingHezekiahII Jan 07, 2013 Accepted 9/8 https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgip?blvlist
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:09 pm Regarding the manner in which I may strip other presidents of their slaves, I'm partial to bombers. However, I do not think myself or anyone capable of isolating any player. Furthermore, I am not desirous of expending any effort in isolating another president. In the past, those players that have found themselves isolated have become so purely of their own accord by alienating every individual or group they met. The isolation there was created by the isolated individual, not by any outside force. This being the case; it is ridiculous to threaten isolation.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:12 pm Join the NLUO and change the policy.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:18 pm Since when am I a Hydra member? News to me that is. What war have you's won? Hez get it right. I took back from you what was rightfully mine, end of.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:23 pm Join the NLUO and change the policy.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:32 pm All NLUO members there is a proposal on the table to set up a Department of Intelligence & Recruitment. This department will handle international intelligence, and oversee the NLUO international spies from around the world in federations around the world. They would also handle the recruitment for the NLUO. Once this proposal is passed, I am nominating King Herod VI since he does not have a position in the government at all. He must be voted on, and confirmed, and we will have a new department. So, go to the site if you all would, and let's get this done.. http://nluo.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/8510653-jcsr00011-department-of-intelligence-recruitment-authorization-act
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:40 pm Tell me something Hez, im curious. Who are all these members of the NLUO who claim to govern LU?
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:41 pm Join the NLUO, and find out.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 10:06 pm well, for the record, gaz is not in hydra. secondly, you didn't win that war. so we go back to inviting presidents to read the posts, and get a feel for the NLUO leadership they lie on one thread, argue, then start a new thread, and start the same arguments over. by making outrageous claims. which you can see all through this thread. they'll start a new thread, and do it all over. and when they start to loose that argument, they'll start a new thread, and the same basic argument. so i invite all presidents that care about any in game organization they join, to investigate this one, before joining.
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| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 10:09 pm Investigate their curious claims and accusations that are being made that they have no ability or authority to enforce or execute.
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Monday, January 14, 2013 - 10:19 pm Oh? Who did that?
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 12:00 am Id love yo know who this so called Spy is that is supposedly hanging out in Hydra? ROFL, not that I really believe that there is one. thats about as good as that imaginary war that was fought and won by the NLUO? LOL Where does this guy come up with this stuff? lol ooo an Intel office to deal with all their spies all over the world who have infiltrated all the alliances. ROFLMBO!!!!!!!! yea OK!!!!Lol
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 12:11 am Well it's obviously not you is it.
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 12:15 am you guys are full of poop!
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 01:10 am Well, LU you see that haters are in droves. wonder why? Threatened maybe?
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 02:22 am Mwahahaha! I've betrayed you all! I've been spying on Hydra for the good and noble King this entire time. I've told him of your insidious plan to distract his gentle Knight, Sir Stephen Ryan, with chocolate and abscond with the beautiful Queen of battle!
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 03:02 am Dear International Community, Please don't let the Hyrda federation put you off joining the NLUO. The Hydra federation members are just a bunch of crazy people who are like to throw there weight around and spread lies.
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 03:37 am well said King Lord Lee.
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:43 am In my grand espionage efforts, I have uncovered evidence of Hydra's plans to abscond with the Queen of battle: "Jack, I was thinking I was getting something accomplished until I read your post! I'm dancing a fast as I can." Clearly, this is evidence of our nefarious plot as we are desperately hoping to improve our loathsome dancing skills with long and tiring dancing lessons so that we may impress the Queen so much that she will forget the NLUO ever existed and remain faithfully ours.
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:41 pm King lord lee...which are you aqua? a king or a lord? Lord has a better ring to it imo. Its not Hydra gonna put people off Lee, it's Hezzie and wendys venom and hate that will. Maybe you could take over diplomacy.
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:51 pm exterminate these cockroaches...
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 06:29 pm Hear! Hear!, well said madam secretary.
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 06:38 pm Yup, spoken like a true nluo secretary.
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 07:12 pm ROFLMBO!
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 07:52 pm The Terrorist Organization of Hydra pose a real threat to world peace and security! They have tried to intimidate NLUO with their navies and we have to stand up to these aggressors! Please Join the first legitimate government of Little Upsilon and help build a brighter future.
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 08:49 pm I suppose its your point of view who is the terrorist! Some might call you a Patriot, others a Terrorist. For example, if a federation or organization tells you that if you do not follow the rules we have set out before you and do as we see fit, then we will strip you of your country, Isolate you, and deny you the ability to have nuclear facilities among other things.... then who is the terrorist?
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 09:29 pm Well put Serpent, although I must say, that whole bit about me being prosecuted is no more real then their ability to hold a straight face while calling themselves a democratic government. they cant Isolate me, nor can they take an empire from me, any more then they can keep me from producing Nukes that could one day land in their back yards. In fact they cant even boot me from the NLUO as I have officially withdrawn from it. yes I will even deny them that ability! you see, nothing more then a bunch of mouthy political wanna be's! ROFL!
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 09:59 pm well, i do have a question are fleets in an area really a threat? i haven't checked that region any time recently, but last i checked, it was bunch of 1-2 country empires. according to the game rules, hydra is unable to effect them in any way, the game will not allow it! so it'd seem to me that you are saber rattling over nothing. or is it nothing? "...I really want to leave the NLUO federation for fear of the wrath of the NLUO. Hezekiah has the Decambra region crawling with NLUO troops from several nations. I have 3 different navies docked in my harbors. I don't know if that is good, but it makes me on edge. " Col G, earlier in this same thread so it would seem that the NLUO does consider fleets in an area a threat! by their own words. "The Terrorist Organization of Hydra pose a real threat to world peace and security! They have tried to intimidate NLUO with their navies and we have to stand up to these aggressors!" l lee, just a couple post above so while they are claiming that a single fleet poses a threat to them. they surround their own Judge with fleets and troops, in an effort to intimidate him to bending to their will... hydra does not recognize the central NLUO fed branch as a threat, do to the nature of the players in it. how ever, in the same way that the NLUO perceive a threat, they are threatening their own to submit to their will, rather than allow the gov to take its own course. Then of course blaming Hydra.
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 10:10 pm Exactly!
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| Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 10:23 pm Well said General Serpent and General Josias.
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| Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 12:07 am brb I gotta go puke.
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| Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 01:29 am The truth has a way of sickening those to whom it pertains doesn't it?
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| Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 02:31 am Yeah that's it... (sarcasm)
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| Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 05:12 am *yawns* ... ya'll still at this. I guess I need to use industrial strength raid lol...
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| Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 05:23 am Well you know they say that after all civilization is dead and gone that cockroaches will still be here!
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| Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 06:54 am lol
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| Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 07:52 pm Gasp!!!!, as I turn on the light. One big one is smiling.
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| Friday, January 18, 2013 - 08:02 pm All Government officials we need to come together on the site to discuss the future of this government and LU. This meeting will dictate my first State of the NLUO Address of my 2nd term.
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| Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 09:15 pm wow excellent turn out! lol sorry had to break the silence.
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| Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 11:46 pm There must be something big about to happen. There is always calm before a storm.
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| Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 12:38 am There is no need to argue once one has identified the path one intends to walk. The storm has already passed. Certainty is calm. When two people engage in a conflict with certainty, this is nothing like a storm. The chaotic energy that seeks to challenge and to clarify has already subsided: the storm has passed. It is only from the view of a bystander who sees things happening without comprehending why they occur that the storm is brewing. He has yet to become certain of why things are occurring as they are. For those with certainty, the path is as clear as the cloudless sky. I think, perhaps, the skies are still stormy for you. I suppose it is to be expected from one who substitutes conviction for certainty. Your storm is coming, while mine has passed.
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| Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 06:01 pm Nice Mizore, nice... You get my vote for poet of SC.
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| Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 07:47 pm If Mizore's statement is correct, then why all the arguing in this thread and others like it? Mizore's delicate prose is interesting. But his conclusion invalidated...
...because it takes two to Tango. Which means the storm is brewing for everyone involving themselves.
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| Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 11:42 pm Meh, I just liked it as a stand alone piece of prose. I wasnt aware of any real storms, brewing or otherwise.
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| Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - 10:56 pm This isn't the weather forum Mizore. You're a storm LOL.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 01:37 am I'd just like to reassure presidents that the NLUO government is a democratic organization going from strength to strength. Our great leader King Hezekiah II is now serving his 2nd term in office. Please join and be part of our great democratic government on Little Upsilon. Lord Lee.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 01:50 am hmmm we love you lord lee, but you are on the WRONG SIDE, PREPARE TO LOSE EVERYTHING YOU HOLD DEAR
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:18 am Id just like to reassure presidents that the NLUO government is a dictatorial organization going from strength to strength. Our great leader King Hezekiah II is now serving his 2nd term in office. Please join and be part of our great dictatorial government on Little Upsilon. Lord Lee. what it should say if he was at least truthful. democratic? possibly if you mean that people can have their say..............and have their thumbs hacked off if what they say dont agree with the Self elected leadership! and thats for a first offense. .......there is no one around that can give testimony to a second.! LOL
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:28 am The reason the NLUO government is democratic is because members of the government can vote on varies issues and elect representatives of their choice.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:29 am shave while we love thee shut the frack up, you are doing hydra no favours, unless you want turning a new asshole be quiet! and stay out of the political scene|!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:36 am id say im doing as well as anyone else. and ill continue to do so for as long as I deem necessary. lol
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:44 am FINE dont get in our way
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:44 am now with all do respect jiang Hu mind your own business!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:49 am player PLS dont get our back up im fuming as is!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:55 am well look i don't know you and im not trying to be rude to ya, but you are the one that chimed in with that ridiculous comment. Ive been at this since the beginning, you choose to come into this like you have been at the front of it. sorry guy, but it doesn't work like that. no one would put up with that, now had you contacted me privately and asked with a little bit of courtesy, and gave applicable reason for your suggestion i might have taken it differently as you will find im an easy going guy....usually anyway.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:02 am shave drop this, please
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:04 am Chiwoo, You know I love you to pieces, but you are hardly being fair to Shave. He is not using profane language, and only playing the political game just like all of us do. I've sat back and seen ugly statements made by NLUO members inclusive of personal attacks and yet I have not seen you tell them to "shut the frack up". You can't berate one side and not say anything to the other. Be fair or I'll throw a shoe at you!!! And you WILL like it! Hugs, Lorelei
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:08 am now your saying im ridiculus with comments and im being rude, ITS A GOOD TIME FOR US TO BE dipolmatic,.............hiya shave im chiwoo........hey how you's doing?
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:12 am We have some of the greatest warriors in the NLUO to protect all of us from the Hydra Terrorists and their puppets. Please join today and be apart of our great world democracy on Little Upsilon.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:13 am Come in chat, Chiwoo, so I can throw a shoe at you!!! Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!!!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:13 am no sir I did not, I said the comment was ridiculous.there is a huge different. I apologize if ive come off the wrong way, but if you go back and read the comment you posted im sure that you could at least see how someone might take offense to it.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:15 am Never mind, I feel compelled to slap that blue thing named Lord Lee!!! ha ha ha ha Where did that ad come from??? ha ha ha ha
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:17 am too fuming to that jan right now maybe laters
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:21 am The Hydra Terrorists are a threat to world security. Fellow presidents of Little Upsilon please be careful when dealing with these terrorists! They will use any means necessary to try and bamboozle you! NLUO is the official democratic world government of Little Upsilon.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:25 am @ the blue thing: "We have some of the greatest warriors in the NLUO to protect all of us from the Hydra Terrorists and their puppets. Please join today and be apart of our great world democracy on Little Upsilon." How, pray tell, Lord Lee, how is Hydra considered a terrorist group, when it is YOUR group that threatens and has even declared war on this group and/or it's member/s???? I'm sorry, please explain this, cuz even with a college degree and masters, I can't comprehend this. ha ha ha YOU are the aggressors here. the terrorists. ha ha ha ha
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:25 am NLUO is the official democratic world government of Little Upsilon. Says Who?
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:26 am Chiwoo, Shave is a good guy, just on the fun band wagon with the NLUO drama. Please dun be upset. He really is a good guy. Just know you are loved, my friend.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:27 am The Hydra Terrorist Organization have used spies and have publicly stated that they intend to destroy the NLUO.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:28 am lord lee your group is the only one's trying to bammbozzle the other presidents of LITTLE UPSILSON into a FARCE OF A false duluded world government, while a small band of freedom fighters are trying their hardest to hold on to what little freedoms they have left!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:31 am NLUO = Fighting for Freedom.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:31 am The Hydra Terrorist Organization have used spies and have publicly stated that they intend to destroy the NLUO. really? according to Hezz you all of the NLUO have so many spies that you are considering the creation of a new branch of government to handle all your spies! if thats what makes Hydra terrorists then whats that say for the NLUO! LOL
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:32 am Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh Lee, I believe you are self projecting. It was Hezzy who said that NLUO had spies in Hydra. And who are these alleged spies??? ha ha ha ha Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gawd, y'all just sit over there and dream this stuff up, don't ya? ha ha ha ha
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:36 am One of Hydra's spies was shave. He was used by the terrorists to feed information!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:40 am yea whatever Lee! LOL
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:41 am He is awaiting trial for treason.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:44 am slowest dag on system ive ever seen! lol
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:47 am the time for talk is NOW OVER, NULO BETTER PUT UP, SHUT UP OR EVEN BETTER STILL REMOVE THEM SELVES FROM LITTLE UPSILSON PERIOD, the people of little upsilon want real democracy here on this world they want the freedom to choose how they run their lives as they see fit they want the music to play on without interference of a so called vote saying this is how it should be, they want to be able to choose who rules over them without a vote, the free people of little upsilon are saying we want to be free without others claiming we now want is best for you!, they want all this without facists threatining them with nuclear weapons period!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:48 am Lee, I do believe you confuse your facts. Shave was in NLUO first before Hydra even formed. And from what I can tell.......what is there to spy on in your group? Grand delusions??? ha ha ha ha And now I have just learned you are the Aqua Velva man. You are on my death list.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 03:58 am oh yes lord lee was the aqua man way back when, and he still owes us some countries, our peoples lost so much, but they remember they do have long memories, they do have a song its called PAIN, AND they long to give it back to you, haven't you heard it sung mr LORD LEE?!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 04:04 am Chiwoo, kill da aqua velva man!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 04:54 am Chiwoo, do they need another player fighting for Hydra? Just shows how desperate they have become in a conflict they truly pushed to this point. And here it was all we wanted to do was promote a little worldly participation. King Hez is right in predicting a threat of a World War.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 05:23 am You know in all this I am glad there is something to counter the saying that the war game is dead in SimCountry. It is truly an accomplishment to have found something we can all fight about.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 05:29 am Chiwoo. You mess with King Lord Lee you mess with me. If you come against him. You might as well spit in my face.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 06:53 am How about fart? Can we fart in your face? I bet if we did, we'd just blame it on the dog!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 02:32 pm Originally I was Dolphin Sky back in the day and was a member of Allied Forces. It was a long time ago. Lorelei (Wendy's stalker) you do make me laugh.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 05:00 pm Yeah, she seems pretty desperate for some attention. Perhaps that would change if she actually got a country instead cheering from the sideline. But hey someone has to run and get Hydra's water. It is a very important task to keep those thirsty athletes Hydra(ted) :s
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 05:06 pm LOL, yes she does seem pretty desperate to impress Hydra. Maybe they'll make her Chief of the Asshats.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 05:55 pm Dear International Community, this is a great day when the civilized world government of Little Upsilon (NLUO) made a stance against the Terrorists, Hydra and their associates. This is also a great opportunity for you presidents of Little Upsilon to join and be apart of world democracy. We are a friendly bunch of old and new players and we welcome new players too.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 06:00 pm Oh, now you're going to jump on the 'lets insult lorelei' bandwagon are you Aqua? There's no need for it, that player is just trying to keep things a little light hearted amongst all the verbal garbage spewed here. I would expect better from an Englishman. Hez, dont be silly, you challenging Chiwoo makes you sound stupid, not big and brave. There's a time to shout, and a time to be quiet. Your quiet time has come. I officially put you on the naughty step. You can come down when I think you've had time to think about it.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 06:46 pm The spin doctor Crafty is hard at work. I am not challenging Chiwoo. Chiwoo and are friends. He came against Secretary Lord Lee. I said if he comes against Lord lee he might as well spit in my face. In other words. I vouched for Lord Lee as a friend, and if Lord Lee is my friend, and Chiwoo is my friend, he should not come against Lord Lee because Lord Lee is no Threat to him. But the spin doctors are hard at work instigating strife.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 07:17 pm I think that the NLUO doesn't like it when Lorelei smack talks but doesn't have a country they can bash. HaHa kinda ironic that that very thing (smack talking without risking ANYTHING) is a favorite tactic of the NLUO and their group of minions. And whats with the term terrorist? Let me educate those of you in the NLUO that throw this term around. The definition of a 'terrorist' is this... A person, group, or organization that uses violent action, or the threat of violent action, to further political goals; frequently in an attempt to coerce either a more powerful opponent, (such as a citizen or group targeting a government), or conversely, a weaker opponent, (such as a government, or even an internal citizen or group, being targeted by a larger government). Ok, lets break this down... simply... so that you can understand this. 1. "A person, group, or organization that uses violent action, or the threat of violent action, to further political goals." Hydra was NOT and I repeat NOT formed when NLUO was formed. Hydra WAS formed after NLUO declared itself the government of LU and among many other things insisted on listing those who have no desire to be with them as representatives. NLUO has even threatened those who were once part of the faux world government but then decided to not be a part of it. Here is a quote by the leader of NLUO
So according to this all because Hydra was formed and did not recognize the self proclaimed authority of NLUO to govern all of LU...
The same leader Mr. Hez then continued to say... It is his opinion that we have no discipline, but he is right about Hydra not wanting to live under THEIR political organization, we fell that's best for each president to have the freedom to choose for themselves.. Mr Hez says Again, Hydra does not want to join, learn and use it. That's not for the NLUO to dictate. This is FACT. Back to the definition... 2. "frequently in an attempt to coerce either a more powerful opponent, (such as a citizen or group targeting a government), or conversely, a weaker opponent, (such as a government, or even an internal citizen or group, being targeted by a larger government)." Obviously the SC community can see who is the weaker and stronger of the two. Look at the evidence. One fed is almost exclusively either in war protection or lower than war level 3. Also Hydra DOES NOT want to coerce anybody into anything. All Hydra is here for is a balance, a place for presidents who do not wish to be a part of, or bullied by the self-proclaimed NLUO world government. Keep in mind that these quotations are from only a single post they have made, if i/somebody had the time/desire to scan for more, there would be a plethora of quotes that show the selfish goals of the NLUO. So if the SC community were to decide who the real terrorists, maybe their conclusion would be the same as the freedom loving members of the strong federation known as HYDRA! However to give you the 'benefit of the doubt' maybe when you use the word terrorist, you mean... A person, group, or organization that uses violent action, or the threat of violent action, to not allow self proclaimed world governments total dictatorship and tyranny... then yes, by that definition, Hydra is a terrorist organization. Oh and by the way, if you want any more education, just leave your questions here and they will be answered in one way or another! ;) P.S. Hey Mr Ryan, you know you want to join Hydra, dont fight it, so why not apply?
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 07:22 pm Yup...that about sums it up Serpent!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 07:26 pm Please don't patronize and insult people's intelligence by giving them a definition of the word terrorist. Hydra publicly announced its intention to destroy the NLUO government i.e. they are terrorists!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 07:31 pm Duh! Winning!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 07:32 pm Im not really insulting 'peoples' intelligence, really only those who use that word... maybe I shall quote myself... This includes but is not limited to hmmmm....
Namely, you! Also, why did Hydra at one time take such a hardline stand against NLUO? Is it possible that its because of the statements I made earlier?
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 07:36 pm CC what is insulting is having to listen to her endless baiting in chat and on the forum only to turn around and complain when she gets a response. I wasn't trying to insult her. I was only pointing out the obvious.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 07:59 pm Dear Aqua Velva Man/SweetPea/Hezzy, I have a country. I exchange workers. I play the game. I've played Simcountry for more than five years. I have played on all worlds. I have achieved HOF status several times on several worlds. I have achieved high levels in the game. I have played with some of the most skilled players in this game. So whether you deem me significant or not is your problem, but I assure you, I have a voice. I will use my voice. Much of what I do here is laugh and goof off, and visit those that I enjoy in the game. Now, I have gotten involved in the NLUO issue for two reasons. 1. I don't agree with the philosophy and some of the behaviors of players, and 2. Because I enjoy good natured smack talk/drama and have approached it with a fun, light hearted attitude in the spirit of the game. But I assure you, I WILL KEEP it ALL GAME. Call me names. Call me stalker. Ridicule me, tell me Sim is not a dating service, continue to use personal info to attack me...... You do whatever you deem necessary to make you and your mock group look like something. You do not impress me at all as a solid, respectable federation. You come across desperate and grasping at straws and the ones who are actually seeking attention. :-) As for me trying to impress Hydra. I don't have to do that at all. Most of the members of Hydra are players that I have known for years and that I have been federated with over the years. When I speak, I speak for myself and what I think. I am also not a member of Hydra. I AM founder of NONONLUO! :P I trust that I have clarified some matters for you. Now how about y'all just learn to laugh a little and have some fun in the true spirit of the game. As for baiting.......take thy own advice. *winks As for insults, everything out of your mouths have been insulting and some personal in nature. Thank you, Lorelei
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 08:02 pm Nah I'm good, you have a history of sending emails. Better to avoid you. Continue on, I should not have acknowledged you or the bait in the second place. The obvious is obvious. Maybe that post is appropriate for the Biography section. We're talking war and propaganda here. This is getting so tired. I'm gonna take a nap.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 08:05 pm It's a game, Wendy. Treat it as such. I have a right to post just like you do.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 08:06 pm Oh post away. I never asked you not to. I was just pointing out the obvious. Thanks for proving my point. Have a good day.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 08:30 pm Wenders, I was commenting on Aquas sudden desire to attack Lorelei. I know your dealings with her, its a seperate matter for him to start in on her for no reason other than jumping on a bandwagon. You two have history, Aqua doesnt. Anyways, I keep saying it, but I'm full of all this shit, it isnt fun game banter anymore, its nasty spiteful be a bitch to everyone stuff, from just about everyone, not wendy in particular. The sooner everyone shuts up about NLUO the better, they will go away into another little fed somewhere on LU and peeps can get on with proper smak talk and good stuff.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 08:33 pm But they won't leave NLUO alone CC. Do we have your permission to fight this war amongst ourselves? She's flaming Aqua and the whole thread but has nothing to do with it. Why shouldn't he have something to say about that? And he only said she was trying to impress Hydra, which is pretty much the case from what can be seen. I think you're getting upset for nothing. You're not in any war, and no one is attacking you big guy. Don't blow your gasket.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 08:40 pm crafty, inspite of everything thats said about me, and the NLUO, i don't actually want them to go away, really. they just like to miss quot me over and over, to their own benefit. that in its self is worth being upset about
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 08:42 pm well to go neutral for just a moment, I guess we can all agree on one thing. weather you are Pro NLUO or Pro Hydra, or even somewhere in between, this Has fueled more Game play and involvement on LU. and without all the smack talk we would all just be bored. lol I for one am actually having a decent Gaming experience now. Im involved in an international dispute with alot of different kind of players from all walks of life, I get to learn more about the workings of the game by some really cool Vet players, even those that are in game enemies. hey this is a war game after all. its been fun. and hopefully the fun continues. gonna be interesting to see how all of this evolves! way to go people!
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 08:49 pm Seeing as how I am one of the most active people on this forum, it follows that this affects me somewhat. Therefore I will have my say about the way I see people behaving, like I said, I care not if its Hydra, Wendy or even Laguna (for whom I have the greatest respect of all the players past and present). Still, you all go for it. I'm not so immature that I dont realise I have alternatives.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 08:54 pm You are right CC.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 10:14 pm Dear Lorelei, As you are the founding member of "NONONLUO" I formally request that you disband this terrorist organization. Lord Lee.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 10:23 pm Dear Aqua Velva Man, I tell ya what. I'll disband my organization when you disband the NLUO. Deal? Now, shhhhhhhhhh. I'm watching Snapped on Oxygen channel and getting pointers. Beware! :P
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 11:46 pm 3 days and the Israelite Empire is entering the war. I can't wait. Talk is over. Decs are going out.
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| Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 11:52 pm I just want to say on a note above the game. I love and respect all the players in this game as people. I have no ill will towards you as people. I am a lot more person to person in the chat. As rulers in this game, I want to kill your sim children for the glory of war. If Hydra would have not have fanned the flames of war, I would not need a sacrifice. But, since there is a raging fire, only the NLUO will put it out. But not after some sim people of Hydra die.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 12:04 am This kinda sounds like your writing a suicide note!
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 12:11 am lol
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 12:18 am I love your special forces to the north of my Nation. Thanks for the flank Serpent. You have done a good job being our spy. We appreciate it. But unfortunately we no longer need your services in that regard is why I am bringing it out. The war is started, and the NLUO will end it.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 12:40 am Uh yea then Hezz I guess we will just Boot him out of Hydra then!!!!! oh no! Serpent is a Spy! ROFL gimme a stinking Break Hezz! cmon man surly you can do better then this! lol
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 12:57 am Hezekiah, I am very appalled at how you started a world war. WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM? You said you would relax your foreign policy, and you escalated your foreign policy. You said you would listen to the None aligned nations. You just started a war with them!!!!!! What are you thinking. I am going to build a coalition against you to get you impeached. I can't deal with 40 LU years of this crap!!!
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 12:59 am ALL of this, in writing by HIS hand, did sharaneah make thee, UNDERSTAND? all of the workings of the tavNiT
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 01:00 am good to see someones head is on straight!
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 01:20 am There is no God but Allah.. He will see us through this. The NLUO will prevail.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 01:25 am Good to see you on the forum Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 02:18 am Im glad you love my special forces Mr. Hez, I bet your gonna really love whats next in about ummm..... 3 days now isnt it?
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 02:20 am Actually Hezzy, Serpent is a double agent. While you have been under the assumption that he is YOUR spy on us, he's actually been keeping US informed about YOU!!!! Ohhhhhhhhh noooooooooes!!!
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 02:34 am 3 Days. Serpent You wanna fight? I was going for Kel first, but I will take on both of you. I need to grab a few more c3s first. I love the game of chess. Serpent, you are actually good at the game.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 02:36 am We have two words for ya, Hezzers: Check Mate.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 02:37 am Thank you my son, secretary Lord Lee.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 02:42 am I dont just want your C3's... I want your main. Put that on the line. Put your ASSets where your mouth is my friend! Besides I prefer checkers! My two words are KING ME!
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 03:19 am Oh well. I am not afraid. You can try to take my main. No prob. I have no prob putting it on the chopping block. You are going to be really surprised.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 05:03 am I just want to state for the record Herod. This is my fault. I started the war. King Hezekiah has not started it, but I am glad he will choose to fight for what he believes in. If you have any grievance Herod, I suggest you take them up internally with the means prescribed through NLUO international law. I await your judgement, and will be taking full responsibility for this one.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 03:27 pm I disagree with King Herod VI and fully support our great leader of Little Upsilon, King Hezekiah II. I'd also like to thank Wendy for all the great stuff she has done on Little Upsilon like standing up to the terrorists and all the help she has given new players. The NLUO is growing and going from strength to strength.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 09:17 pm Well Lord Lee, Are you not an Expansionist? Of course you support the Hezekiah Administration. Through your loyalty King Hezekiah II has made you one of the most influential members of the NLUO world gov. I think he said you were the 3rd most powerful member. You control the NLUO economy. Your input is well respected, but is expected of someone of the same political affiliation or ideology.
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| Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 10:22 pm the Ball would seem to be in your Court King Herod. stick to your Guns and be a potential hero to the LU community. Do what you promise, unlike your predecessors, and you could end this unnecessary Bloodbath.
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 09:24 am Just to remind everyone Hydra are terrorists trying to destroy democracy! HYDRA PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING TO DESTROY THE NLUO GOVERNMENT. Also they sent a spy into the NLUO government to sabotage and damage our credibility. That person in Shave who is awaiting trial for treason. The facts speak for themselves!!!
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 09:39 am My Government position is: "Secretary of Treasury" on Little Upsilon.
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 10:24 am ""Just to remind everyone Hydra are terrorists trying to destroy democracy! HYDRA PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING TO DESTROY THE NLUO GOVERNMENT."".. Lord Lee ....Just to remind everyone, Hydra retracted that statement three times here on for forum well before the war started. LL, your still beating it to death. You need a propaganda minister with new ideas. "Hydra are terrorists"...They are?...Really? Take a look at the Problem, Help, Suggestions, and Beginners threads. The names you will find there are players who consistently help other players solve problems; Crafty, Scarlet, Josias, and Orbiter, among others. These players have been helping other players and helping improve the game long before there was a NLUO or a Hydra. What do they have in common? A lot of experience, they all have some level of disagreement with the NLUO, and three belong to Hydra. They are hardly terrorists.
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 04:08 pm Here comes the word terrorist again!!!! And whats with the term terrorist? Let me educate those of you in the NLUO that throw this term around. The definition of a 'terrorist' is this... A person, group, or organization that uses violent action, or the threat of violent action, to further political goals; frequently in an attempt to coerce either a more powerful opponent, (such as a citizen or group targeting a government), or conversely, a weaker opponent, (such as a government, or even an internal citizen or group, being targeted by a larger government). Ok, lets break this down... simply... so that you can understand this. 1. "A person, group, or organization that uses violent action, or the threat of violent action, to further political goals." Hydra was NOT and I repeat NOT formed when NLUO was formed. Hydra WAS formed after NLUO declared itself the government of LU and among many other things insisted on listing those who have no desire to be with them as representatives. NLUO has even threatened those who were once part of the faux world government but then decided to not be a part of it. Here is a quote by the leader of NLUO
So according to this all because Hydra was formed and did not recognize the self proclaimed authority of NLUO to govern all of LU...
The same leader Mr. Hez then continued to say...
It is his opinion that we have no discipline, but he is right about Hydra not wanting to live under THEIR political organization, we fell that's best for each president to have the freedom to choose for themselves.. Mr Hez says
Again, Hydra does not want to join, learn and use it. That's not for the NLUO to dictate. This is FACT. Back to the definition... 2. "frequently in an attempt to coerce either a more powerful opponent, (such as a citizen or group targeting a government), or conversely, a weaker opponent, (such as a government, or even an internal citizen or group, being targeted by a larger government)." Obviously the SC community can see who is the weaker and stronger of the two. Look at the evidence. One fed is almost exclusively either in war protection or lower than war level 3. Also Hydra DOES NOT want to coerce anybody into anything. All Hydra is here for is a balance, a place for presidents who do not wish to be a part of, or bullied by the self-proclaimed NLUO world government. Keep in mind that these quotations are from only a single post they have made, if i/somebody had the time/desire to scan for more, there would be a plethora of quotes that show the selfish goals of the NLUO. So if the SC community were to decide who the real terrorists, maybe their conclusion would be the same as the freedom loving members of the strong federation known as HYDRA! However to give you the 'benefit of the doubt' maybe when you use the word terrorist, you mean... A person, group, or organization that uses violent action, or the threat of violent action, to not allow self proclaimed world governments total dictatorship and tyranny... then yes, by that definition, Hydra is a terrorist organization. Oh and by the way, if you want any more education, just leave your questions here and they will be answered in one way or another! C'mon Lee before you use the word 'terrorist' again and show your inability or stubbornness, answer this post, after all these are the EXACT, EXACT words from your King.
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 07:05 pm Also they sent a spy into the NLUO government to sabotage and damage our credibility. That person in Shave who is awaiting trial for treason. The facts speak for themselves!!! ok Lee, for the millionth stinking time! I was a member of the NLUO LONG BEFORE HYDRA WAS EVER CREATED! Do the Math man.....HYDRA NEVER SENT ME TO SPY ON ANYONE! E.V.E.R....You get that LEE????????
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 08:50 pm Secretary Lee is a great player and nation and ally. Now his words have been mishandled, and misinterpreted. When he said that Hydra sent a spy. When you were NLUO and not Hydra, you were not a spy. When you joined Hydra, which was created to destroy the government, you began to make accusations, try and get me thrown out of office, and generally tried to divide and conquer. So, in essence his statement is correct. Might as well say Hydra sent you as a spy since you were already NLUO, and then you joined Hydra, and that is when you began to have a prob with the NLUO.
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 08:53 pm ok hezz really? now you talk about mishandled. yea right Hezz, nice try! lol
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 08:55 pm and Hezz you sound like an even bigger Buffoon for trying to defend that ridiculous accusation. talk about spinning.
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 08:57 pm I'm confused, I thought Serpent was the spy, or was it Scarlet? Wait... no, King Herod, nope he was a dissident, meh, who knows. Wendy, come spy with me, lets spy away, if you could use, some exotic booze, theres a bar in far off Mandalay...
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 09:14 pm King Hezekiah will you check your case.
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| Monday, January 28, 2013 - 09:24 pm I did Mr. Chief Justice, and I replied.
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 04:29 am World community please be apart of the official little Upsilon Government. This is an excellent time to join. We currently have a trail for treason going on which is interesting. Join NLUO Today. Lord Lee.
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 04:42 am why is it the "official" government? I disagree, and do not appreciate being generalized like that.
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 04:51 am Because it is! We are the first democratic government. The Official Little Upsilon Government that is! NLUO = Official world government of Little Upsilon.
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 05:02 am No. It is as you said, the first democratic government. I don't know how it's the "Official World" government though when there are many other governments with more players and more population than NLUO.
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 05:21 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_1bzaj2fw HELP! We're being repressed!
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Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 04:24 pm Guess it's not just me then.
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 06:07 pm Because it is! We are the first democratic government. The Official Little Upsilon Government that is! NLUO = Official world government of Little Upsilon. Aint nothing Democratic about it! lol more like a poor excuse for an unorganized Mob! lol
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 11:13 pm Shave has now been found guilty of Treason and there's a ban to ban him possessing nuclear weapons because he is a danger to the international community of Little Upsilon. If you are on the Security Council please vote yes.
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 11:15 pm Since he is not actually a danger to the international community of Little Upsilon, it appears the Security Council is voting to REJECT this ban. As it stands, Lord Lee has voted FOR the ban, and all three other members of the Security Council who have voted did so AGAINST the ban.
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 11:16 pm Good thing, because this is the lamest and most pathetic game tactic I have seen. Wow Lord Lee! You do so represent the NLUO so well. NOT!
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 11:24 pm maybe he's using reverse psychology?
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| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 11:57 pm Maybe the NLUO should charge Lord Lee with treason. I swear he alone can single-handedly bring down the NLUO without any effort on HYDRA ...... just by his inability to lead well and the nonsense he communicates to the simcountry masses!!! I'm beginning to think that Lord Lee may actually be a mole within the NLUO group to detroy the NLUO from within!!!! Perhaps now I should applaud Lee. hmmmmm interesting........very interesting.
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| Friday, February 1, 2013 - 12:00 am Nah, perhaps the NLUO will pass a resolution to ignore this irrational suggestion. I don't think we even need a vote. :s
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| Friday, February 1, 2013 - 12:21 am Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi and King Herod VI are traitors of the NLUO government and have plotted against King Hezekiah II and his leadership. They both have been found guilty of High Treason and King Hezekiah II will pass sentence shortly. Lord Lee.
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| Friday, February 1, 2013 - 01:22 am yea ok, let me guess, you gonna try and get a ban on nukes for them too Lee?. tell me something dude, are you a kid? I really wanna know, cause I don't wanna put some young Kid down on these forums or anywhere else. I just cant imagine any adult doing or trying the stupid stuff you are trying. seriously though how old are you kid?
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| Friday, February 1, 2013 - 11:28 pm KIDS........... dont you just love em?..........as a parent and adult as we read this its interesting how adults cant GET IT OR EVEN READ between the LINES?
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| Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 04:58 am Yesterday, I was going through some of my stuff, and by curiosity I clicked on a link that lead me to a thread in this forum from exactly four years ago. You would have all been terribly amazed at the similarities. I know I was. Made me think.
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| Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 05:11 am LMAO Favorite quote: Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon) Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 08:12 am "We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back." --The Iraqi Information Minister, obviously speaking Truth about the NLUO Oh the good old days That was truly enjoyable to read through again Laguna. So many of the same parties involved. Thanks.
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| Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 11:55 pm I don't know what it going on and the current situation with the NLUO Government.
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| Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 03:37 am Of course you don't, Lee. Your head has been stuck up Wendy's rear end for too long. ha ha ha ha
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| Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 02:22 pm Lee. It's over, kaput, gone. Just another normal federation now. Enjoy.
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