Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 02:11 am Little Upsilon International Court Docket Chief Justice The Brother Leader Mohamar Gaddafi Prosecutor: Attorney General President Prizepack Defense: Public Defender President Carthaginian Court Date: December 18, 3092 Location: Little Upsilon International Court http://nluo.webs.com/lu-international-court Formal Charges: The King of the Israelite Empire and the Secretary of the NLUO King Hezekiah II was been charged with a Level 2 Felony for the threat of Genocide of a federation's population. Here are his words:"Monday, January 7, 2013 - 03:36 pm Hydra rats always lurking around making LU infested. We need an exterminator." Hearing Relevance: This has caused a member of the NLUO to come forward and press charges. This hearing is to find out the intentions of King Hezekiah in the choice of words he used. If found guilty of these allegations, King Hezekiah faces a level 2 felony. LEVEL 2 FELONY: MUST STEP DOWN FROM THEIR POSITION OF POWER IN THEIR PARTY. IF THEY HAVE NO POSITION OF POWER, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY VOTING AT ALL. Constitutional relevance: Section 1. Allegations, Threats, and Disclosures A mere accusation of another is not appropriate for the purposes of this Act. Evidence, even one item, is necessary for the purpose of this (NPA) process. For example, the enemy, or alleged enemy, emails a member with a threat, perception of a threat, invitation to join another federation with the intent to be disloyal or with the intent to commit treason. The mere invitation is not enough. If the perception of the invitation is to commit treason, then it would be appropriate to file a concern. After the allegation is submitted, an investigation will commence. ection 3. Confidentiality and Protection of Member of NLUO a) Confidentiality: The identity of the complaining member will be kept confidential. The (2) investigators who are assigned to investigate complaint will keep the identity of the member confidential. The allegation, the identity, the issue will remain confidential until such time the allegation is found to be true. If and when that is determined, then the members of the NLUO will become apprised of the issues and threat at hand. If the allegation is false, then the issue will be dropped and the identity will remain confidential. 1. If the investigators disclose the identity of the member who filed the allegation, then appropriate action should take place, to be determined by the members. 2. If the identity of the member who filed the allegation is disclosed by the member, themselves, then confidentiality cannot be guaranteed or protected. (b) Protection 1. If it is determined that the allegation is unsubstantiated, or unfounded, then no protection will be afforded to the member who proposed the allegation. 2. If the allegation is found to be true, then all protection will be afforded to that member by all means possible which will include, but not limited to the following: i. War protection provided by other members of the NLUO (in the way of Gold Coins) for a period of one Simcountry year. 1. If member does not use Gold Coins for war self-protection, member will be cast out of the organization for dishonesty. This will be a public live chat hearing. All parties must appear in court or the case will be dismissed. King Hezekiah opted for a Bench trial. In the event of a bench trial, King Hezekiah II has waved his right to a trial by jury. |
shave | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 03:52 am what time of day will this hearing be held? |
shave | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 03:56 am cheif Justice, will I be allowed to speak at this hearing? |
Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:14 am The time of the trial is 9 pm central standard time. Yes you will be able to speak at the hearing if you are called by the prosecution as a witness. This will probably be more than likely. |
shave | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:16 am do you by any chance know what real life date that falls on? |
shave | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:18 am can I assume the prosecutor will want to contact me and speak with me before the trial to gather information? |
Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:18 am Monday night at 9pm. |
Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:19 am Yes. You will more than likely be contacted by the Attorney General as well as the Public Defender. |
shave | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:21 am Great Thanks Cheif Justice Gadaffi! I guess this to be your first trial. well good luck! to you sir! |
Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:25 am Yes it will be my first trial. I thank you for the luck. Please Make sure you appear since you filled the charges whether they need you to testify or not. |
shave | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:29 am I will most certainly be present sir! I truly hope that this will be a fair and balanced hearing that could ease the minds of the international community. this is a real opportunity for us all to forge a new path into the perception of this body. i sincerely hope that it works to that end. |
King Hezekiah II | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 05:12 am Look at them.. Just plotting. All this whole thing is about is someone being able to use the government to get someone kicked out of their position in the government. |
King Hezekiah II | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 05:31 am Chief Justice Gaddafi, you have a vote of no confidence brewing at the gov site. You might wanna check it out. |
SweetPea | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 07:35 am Indeed. Shave has admitted being a member of Hydra and it is obvious that he has used our site in order to cause internal strife. It also appears he has succeeded in doing so since the results from this may actually do more harm than good to us. Since shave is a hydra member, and not a true NLUO member, I am formally requesting all charges against Hezekiah be dropped on those grounds. Any record or confusion about Shave and his allegiances formally disclosed and his ex-communication from the NLUO follow. Colonel if you refuse to see this for what it is, I will be forced to support the no-confidence vote. Let us expel this pestilence and get back to solidifying our ranks among the NLUO members, and not coming against each other because of outside actors. I would prefer that we begin to heal as a unit instead of trying to tear each other down. |
Carthaginian0 | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:20 pm I would like to request a move of times. Monday at 9 will not be available to me. Can we make it earlier/move it to Tuesday? |
Lord Lee | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 05:36 pm I ask all NLUO members of the government to check in at the NLUO website regarding this matter: www.nluo.webs.com Lord Lee. |
King Hezekiah II | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 07:48 pm Here!!! here!!!! |
Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 07:50 pm After conversing with the members of the government, there is a majority of members who believe King Hezekiah should not be charged with a crime at all based on the constitutional relevance of the charge. THE LITTLE UPSILON INTERNATIONAL COURT WAS ESTABLISHED TO HOLD GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR POLICIES, AND THAT THEY FOLLOW THEIR POLICIES. THIS COURT ALSO OVERSEE CASES OF GENOCIDE, CASES AGAINST HEADS OF STATE. THE SECURITY COUNCIL MUST REFER ALL CASES OF CRIMES AGAINST HEADS OF STATE TO THE COURT. IF THE SECURITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO PASS A RESOLUTION THEN THE COURT MUST ALLOW THE SECURITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. THE COURT CAN NOT ISSUE ANY ARREST WARRANTS. THE COURT CAN ONLY ISSUE SUMMONS TO NLUO MEMBERS FOR THEIR MISCONDUCT. There was no proof of genocide, but a threat of genocide. It has been found by the proof of what was said, King Hezekiah did not directly threaten the hydra federation, but indirectly. This, thus makes the case against King Hezekiah invalid. The law states cases of direct threats, not indirect threats. From this finding, all appropriate legislatures can take up proposals in regards to the lack of language on indirect threats. It is because this language it is the opinion of this court,that all charges against Hezekiah be dismissed at this time. All parties involved can file their grievances at the Little Upsilon International Criminal Court. What we would like to happen is for the parties to bring their cases based on direct threats vs indirect threats, and the court can rule in this regard, and only then can a case like this against King Hezekiah can go forward. Also I am sure the legislatures will start passing resolutions on this issue. Maybe even add constitutional amendments. Here is the language of the threats, which warrants level 2 felonies. There is a thin line between threats, and treason, and this needs to be broadened. Any propaganda that is issued based on this ruling is up to the congress and federations to sort out. My hope is that LU can decide fact from fiction. Section 1. Allegations, Threats, and Disclosures A mere accusation of another is not appropriate for the purposes of this Act. Evidence, even one item, is necessary for the purpose of this (NPA) process. For example, the enemy, or alleged enemy, emails a member with a threat, perception of a threat, invitation to join another federation with the intent to be disloyal or with the intent to commit treason. The mere invitation is not enough. If the perception of the invitation is to commit treason, then it would be appropriate to file a concern. After the allegation is submitted, an investigation will commence. Section 2. Venue in which to disclose threat and outcome. (a) A team of (2) investigators will be assigned to investigate the allegation. a. If it is found that an allegation involves a NLUO member and that allegation is fabricated by the complaining party, then that complaining party will have committed a Level 2 Felony, and members of the NLUO will vote on the future of this members participation in the NLUO. b. If it has been determined that the allegation is false, when the accusation involves an outside enemy, not within the NLUO, then the issue will be closed. NOTE: It is imperative that the accusing member have tangible evidence to submit with their allegation when that allegation involves a NLUO member. c. Once it has been determined that the threat is real or true, then justice will commence. (b) Accusation is true (Threat coming from outside of NLUO). If the threat is outside of the NLUO, a message will be sent to the perpetrator, outlining the accusation, and will be told to cease and desist their attempts to undermine our organization. Boycotts will be considered. If egregious behavior and the very existence of the NLUO is threatened, war may be considered and voted upon following the laws of the NLUO. (c) Accusation is true (Threat from within NLUO) If the threat is coming from a member of the NLUO, that member will have committed a Level 7 Felony. See Section 4. Thank You, Chief Justice Mohamar Gaddafi Little Upsilon International Criminal Court |
Serpent | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 07:53 pm |
shave | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:05 pm this is why you folded After just speaking with King Hezekiah. I will go ahead and drop the charges against King Hezekiah. I do not want to risk loosing my position if the majority of the government does not believe King Hezekiah should be tried. I am not a weak Judge. I just want to go with the majority. I do not want to be out in front. So, I hope nobody thinks I am against King Hezekiah. True, I did try to get him impeached, but it was King Herod's idea. He, Carthage, and me all were confederate to overthrow his administration. I seen that since then, King Hezkiah does have the suport of this government, so I fell in line. I did flip to Isolationist, but this ideology fits my personality more. With that said, I hope the members of the congress will take my speech in good faith, and still consider me a loyal member of the NLUO. Thank you, The Brother Leader Mohamar Gaddafi Chief Justice Office |
King Hezekiah II | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:15 pm Look at you Shave. We went based on the law. That was his personal opinion on the matter. We went according to the law. Period. All you want to do is undermine our government from within. You call us NAZIS. You are the NAZI here. You don't need to fight the government with military, you can just be apart of the government, and destroy it from within. You don't want me Secretary General, and you want the fame from being the one to get me thrown out of office. For all I know, you whole fed is in on this, and they sent you in for this purpose. |
shave | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:23 pm oh yea whatever Hezz! nice try! the facts all speak for themselves. its all good man! lol no hard feelings. WoW! |
King Hezekiah II | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:33 pm TREASON!!!! TREASON!!!!! |
shave | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 10:45 pm Treason? yea whatever! lol ROFL, come get me then PUNK! |
Jiang Hu Warrior | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 12:55 am @ shave and anyone else please PLAYER(s) TONE IT DOWN, this drama isn't benefitting anyone, it'll might seem like fun, but when comments with any NAZI inuenddo come out , sorry ive got to say pls leave that sort of history outta tis buisness other than that have fun! |
Lord Lee | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 03:14 am I'm looking forward to your first trial Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi: With the charges that will be brought about against Shave. We can then finally move on with this administration, with King Hezekiah II leading in his second term in office of the NLUO government. Hopefully after the trial, we can grow and expand by getting more simcountry players to join the NLUO (Little Upsilon Government). We want your ideas and input. We are a fair organization that wants to further build on our success as a democratic government. Lord Lee. |
shave | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 05:28 am sorry to burst your bubble Lee, but there will be no trial. carry on your little phony charade, no one cares. lol |
Lord Lee | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 06:02 am I've reserved my seat. Front row. |
shave | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 06:13 am ya know something! I might just have to show up for this little shindig after all. Id like to see if your penalties hold any more clout then your twisted policies. lets see if you are able to do all the things to me you little elves claim to be able to do. hey Gadaffi ya panti waist! send me a date little man. ill come hang out with ya for a day. ROFL and you and your over Lords, Lee and Hezzie can attempt to prosecute me and punish me. LOL im looking forward to seeing this. this will no doubt be hilarious! lol |
shave | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 06:16 am oh please please! mr Judge dont Isolate me! ROFL gee I guess you sure showed me Lee! lol |
shave | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 06:44 am Ya know something, after just placing a couple of posts on here, I just realized something. I have told Hezzy several times in private chat situations that anything said on here by me is only to be taken in character and should never be taken seriously. it has just accrued to me that I as well as a few others may now be crossing those lines. I am finding myself getting agitated with people and situations and it is causing me to be someone im not, or at least dont like to be. this is only a game and when it gets to the point where we are aiming to hurt peoples feelings then it has gone too far. and so I apologize to any that I have offended with any kind of name calling or whatever, everything else was about the game playing and was in character, but to any one who's feelings have been hurt or feel like you have been attacked personally by me then i sincerely apologize for letting this game get out of hand. after calling Gadaffi a coward and what not I realized it was going too far. so again to anyone and all, I apologize. |
SweetPea | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:38 am I have a front row seat as well. Will bring popcorn, and cookies. |
Laguna | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:45 am I'm here for the cookies. |
shave | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 03:22 pm now that being said! back to character! yes Bring on your Punishment! ROFL! I cant wait to see you all attempt this one! say? ya all think I could get a pair of shackles and handcuffs for my court date? ROFL |
Crafty | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 04:23 pm Too good for a traitor Shave. You should expect an unhealthy dose of polonium. End of problem. |
shave | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 08:21 pm not sure what Polonium is, but sounds painful! lol well im taking a few days off, we will take up this matter when i return............although someone has got to explain to me how exactly you intend to pull all of this off. lol im betting your ability to punish me isnt much more realistic then your system is. but hey Cheers! and hears to trying! |
Crafty | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 09:32 pm You should read a bit more shave. Polonium is the substance of choice of various secret police forces like the KGB to poison enemies of the state. It's highly radio-active with a short half life. Nice way to go.. |
King Hezekiah II | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:13 pm Shave if you stay apart of the NLUO, show up to your court date, and are convicted of treason, we will execute that level 7 felony. |
King Hezekiah II | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:23 pm Chief Justice Gaddafi I set up a case for Indirect threats Vs Direct threats. I based the case on my case you dropped according to current law. I also set up a proposal for a law to be passed and indirect threats vs direct threats. I wanted this to be recorded as to the judgment of the Court based on the Direct vs indirect threats without the law in place. Then once the law is in place. I will bring another case to the court, and see how the court reacts to the law, and if it is constitutional, and then I am going to propose a constitutional amendment. Just so we don't have this issue come up again. This issue cause a rift in the government, and we want to patch that hole up, so the Court won't be seen as weak. You did the right thing in dropping the charges, and taking heed to the members of the NLUO. If you were corrupt, you would have tried me with no constitutional or general law basis. Also We need to get the other judges involved in the court as well, and not just go through you. Check the site for more details of this political patchwork. |
Lord Lee | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 12:08 am King Hezekiah II, I agree we do need more judges across the board. This is your chance Little Upsilon community to be real presidents and chief executive officers. Would presidents of Little Upsilon this is your opportunity to be involved in virtual politics and diplomacy. World government is finally here! See real democracy in action by being part of that democracy. Please message/contact your local representative of the NLUO government or message/contact the secretary general King Hezekiah II of the "Israelite Empire". Lord Lee. |
King Hezekiah II | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 12:50 am You are very correct Mr. secretary, and once the remaining of the International community stop being afraid, and take charge of their future, and join the government, this can be a fun and interactive government. It also works exactly with the game in every way, so we don't have to seem as if we are playing 2 different games. The government works with the game. Again, once everyone can see the vision, and take hold of the vision, and make your own mark, this can be a very good game. Godspeed to you Secretary Lord Lee. You will go down in LU history as one of the founding fathers of the LU world government. Cheers!!! my friend..!!! |
Lord Lee | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 12:59 am Thank you for your kind words King Hezekiah II. Lord Lee. |
shave | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:01 am i would not bet on people joining, infact id say it is likely that you will lose people if any changes at all. after that last stunt you guys pulled im betting any shot at any credibility is now out the window. not shooting darts here, im just being realistic. also be advised any attempt or act of aggression against my country or its resources by this administration, if that's what you really want to call it. ought ta be called the Good Fellas! lol but anyway any such action will be considered an act of war and swill be dealt with in like manner. Fair warning. |
shave | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:02 am and Lee I have said it before and ill say it again, you all are anything but Democratic! lol you have more then proven that. |
Lord Lee | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:11 am I have in no way been undemocratic. You are lying! Lord Lee |
Jiang Hu Warrior | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:18 am Hear ye, the presidents and leaders of Little Upsilion, the glorious empire of the dominion of anarchy on the glorious world of little upsilion has held its own independent judicial court and review concerning these events regarding king hezekiah and NULO. After a long and uneventful court case the people of the dominion of anarchy have found and deduced THERE IS NO CASE TO BE ANSWERED HERE. The evidence concearning the accusation of genocide was shown to be weak, at best it was shown to be nothing more than an outspoken rambling, at best an i'll advised statement that was and has been taken out of context by other party's to further in this courts judgement a means to cause strife, confusion, misdirection and an internal conflict within the NULO government. While the people's of the dominion of anarchy hold no great love for the governments of the NULO, the people of this empire hold dear fair judgements against any accused, and they have deduced that certain party's be stripped of their membership of the NULO and any involvement with any other involvement with any other federation or governments till it can be determined that the said party's can be trusted, until then it is this courts descision that this passes till the international community can determine otherwise! |
spokane21 | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:34 am @lordlee Sound familiar= Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 12:45 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lorelei why don't you try: www.plentyoffish.com Sunday, January 6, 2013 - 12:47 am ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This isn't a dating site LOL you are diplamatic? go to general thread under message to wendy and read. whose the liar? ^5 shave |
King Hezekiah II | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:34 am That was very well said Chiwoo, I agree with what you said there. I thank you for your input. |
King Hezekiah II | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:42 am Spokane, Lord Lee was playing around there. You brought that here to try to embarrass the Secretary of Treasury, and it is not going to work. Secretary King Lord Lee is one of the great ones. He is consistently in the Security Council. He passes out developmental aid like it is candy to new nations, with the thoughts in his mind that he knows that the nations is not going to stay around long. He still offers the aid, in hopes that they will stay. King Lord Lee is one of the Leaders of the International Community who actually want to grow the world of LU, and is out front getting it done. While most of the international community sits on the sidelines, watching him make moves, and call him undiplomatic. We need not say things if we do not have the full information on the matter. Spokane, you have just made an international blunder. I would ask that you apologize to the Secretary. |
spokane21 | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:57 am lordlee embarrases hisself as u embarras urself with that postu |
shave | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 02:46 am LOL! |
spokane21 | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 02:56 am o i forget my apology i am sorry u embarras urself so much lordlee o while i am apologising i am sorry u embarras urself so much to king |
Laguna | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 04:05 am Who's the douche? |
spokane21 | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 04:09 am ur mama |
King Hezekiah II | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 06:25 am Spokane, you need to choose your word better before you get deced. |
King Hezekiah II | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 06:28 am Laguna is the eldest Head of state on the world of LU, and you will respect him as such!!! |
King Hezekiah II | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 06:29 am I will not allow you to speak about Laguna in this fashion |
Rick | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 08:39 am Somebody run over there and smack that disrespectful lil polywog! |
SweetPea | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 12:21 pm Lol Rick. |
Crafty | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:12 pm Uh oh, hez is going to dec spokane for saying ur mama on the forum. Would you say Spokanes comment was worse or not than hezzies comment about Hydra being infesting rats? Double standards there Hez. Hush. Laguna hardly plays anymore anyway, he certainly doesnt need you creeping up to him. Please try to be a bit maturer. You're slipping back in your public face again. Oh!...and you cant dec anyone. |
SweetPea | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 02:15 pm Well Hydra are parasites that need to be eradicated. Truth hurts I know :s |
Keto | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 05:04 pm SweetPea Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 02:15 pm Click here to edit this post Well Hydra are parasites that need to be eradicated. Truth hurts I know :s Spoken like the true secretary of NLUO, and you speak on behalf of NLUO. Nothing like contradicting everything nluo supposedly stands for. |
Crafty | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 05:06 pm lol. The truth? you cant handle the truth! |
SweetPea | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 07:02 pm lol Cc Well Keto, you do dirt, you get dirt. |
Serpent | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 07:15 pm Ditto |
shave | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 09:16 pm lol ? im laughing with you ms. wendy really! |
King Hezekiah II | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:42 pm Uhh Crafty not that I said I was going to dec him. I told him before he get's deced. Those are fighting words he is using. As far as me being able to dec anyone, All I have to do is level up. Like that is hard. Good Grief!! |
Keto | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:25 am SweetPea Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 07:02 pm Click here to edit this post lol Cc Well Keto, you do dirt, you get dirt. As a secretary of a government which is supposed to be above dishing out dirt, your members sure do a good job of dishing out dirt and not speaking in a fashion which describes what your so called government is all about. Shame on you and the whole nluo government. Do you as a whole not see the hole you(s) are digging? And it keeps getting deeper after every post the nluo members make. @ shave, no we the LU community are laughing at wendy |
EO | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 01:57 am Who mentioned General Dirt. |
SweetPea | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:11 am What are you laughing at? Shave is an insignificance that even he cannot understand. Keto, you need to put that cup down. Don't let that drink spoil your evening. All of you are laughable honestly. Ya'll are doing a lot of typing and not much more. |
shave | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:34 am @ shave, no we the LU community are laughing at wendy SO AM I ROFL! which might I add Ms. Wendy is all you are doing as well! lol |
Lord Lee | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 04:57 pm I don't think you have that much to be laughing about shave. The International Criminal Court of Little Upsilon is preparing your trial and soon you will be officially charged!!! |
shave | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 06:56 pm And yet suddenly I feel like Laughing all the much more! ROFL. at you most of all. 1 for thinking anyone with any credibility is actually taking this crap at all seriously and 2, for you thinking your judgement means a dang thing. ! |
King Hezekiah II | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:39 pm SHave, you are a pawn, and don't know. lol... You are basically the cold war agitator Hydra is using to antagonize the NLUO, and force War. Is war what you want Hydra? When I get my income taxes back. There is going to be trouble. |
Serpent | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:41 pm Quote:When I get my income taxes back. There is going to be trouble.
Seriously? Is that a threat? Is it a promise? Speak clearly and plainly. |
King Hezekiah II | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:42 pm It was a question and a statement. |
King Hezekiah II | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:43 pm Notice no words on the Shave being a pawn. |
shave | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:44 pm you are as ignorant as they come Hezz! Hydra has nothing to do with any of this! at least not like you people think anyway. you make them 5 fold the enemy they really are to you through your ignorant assumptions. they had nothing to do with anything I have said or done up to this point at all. but it don't matter cause like everything else you all do, you will just make up your own truth as you go. well, woopty! no one is scared of that ridiculous bunch of clowns you have called the NLUO! |
King Hezekiah II | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:47 pm Funny how you have to belittle people in order to make yourself look big. good grief. |
Crafty | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:48 pm 'Woopty', or 'whoopty do'. Want an excellent old english expression. |
shave | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:56 pm LOL @ Crafty! |
Lord Lee | Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 12:40 am shave you an insignificant player at war level 0 with a small population! |
shave | Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 12:46 am ouch! that hurt my feelings! ROFL! for now! i can jump levels whenever I need or want to My big and all powerful friend! lol |
Carthaginian | Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 02:21 am Crafty, I actually was gonna say the same thing. xD |
Crafty | Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:44 pm Are you British Carthaginian? Sorry if we've had this conversation before, my memory isn't what it used to be. |
Carthaginian | Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 03:57 am Not directly. Lived in the States all my life, but both my parents are British, so I pick up those phrases. |
Serpent | Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 04:18 am Ive heard that phrase many many times, but until just a few weeks ago I didn't know there was another country across that huge pond across from north Carolina. |
Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi | Monday, January 28, 2013 - 09:05 pm I hereby as Chief Justice of the Little Upsilon International Court, re-instate this case against secretary General King Hezekiah II. New Court Date LU Time: June 16, 3104 |
King Hezekiah II | Monday, January 28, 2013 - 09:27 pm That's fine. I will be there with bells on. |
King Herod VI | Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 06:06 pm King Hezekiah II, If you could post whether you want a bench or jury trial that would help us move this along. I guarantee as the Attorney General you will be given a fair trial. No matter if we are in the Hydra federation, I am still in the government, and will be fair and impartial. Attorney General's Office |
SweetPea | Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 11:04 pm King Herod has defected to Hydra. ALL of his communications on NLUO matters will now be disregarded. As far as I am concerned he is not in the government, and will never be recognized again. I am sure a Majority of the rest of the NLUO members agree. And if they don't, I'll have to examine where their loyalties rest. |
Lord Lee | Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 12:24 am Is that true King Herod VI? Are you now a member of Hydra? |
E is Easy 0 is like 0 | Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 12:52 am This ish is getting heated! |
Laguna | Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 12:55 am Am I the only one that looking at this topic's title gets the feeling they are expecting to be 99999 of these? |
Serpent | Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 12:55 am Yup, and this is just the beginning! |
SweetPea | Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 03:47 am omg... NOOOOOOOOO!!! |
shave | Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 08:02 pm uh so let me get this straight, now do process of Law means spit? yea go figure! the queen and king say you out, and you out! Let it be known, that this is exactly what has been said about the NLUO all along! this is not a democracy, it is a Dictatorship, Absent of the Rule of Law! it is not a Government, it is nothing more then an Alliance or military Pact between a few Rogue Nations. they do not even follow through with their own rules or regulations. they do whatever they want to do and then place adds for people to join them with Lies suggesting that they are some kind of open democracy. well this is just more proof. they are a dictatorship. nothing More! |
Crafty | Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 09:19 pm Quote: I am sure a Majority of the rest of the NLUO members agree. And if they don't, I'll have to examine where their loyalties rest.
Have to admit, this doesn't sound too democratic. Dictatorial does seem more like it. Rule by fear. Hmmm, dictators aren't doing too well on the world stage at the moment, are they? |
King Herod VI | Friday, February 1, 2013 - 10:21 pm Hezekiah, Did you want the trial public or private? You said you want a bench trial. In a bench trial it only requires the Chief Justice to preside over the case, are you in agreement to this? Let me know, so I can get this case over. |
SweetPea | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 02:10 pm You have mistaken dictatorial for practicality. The use of the term "Majority" indicates that it is democratic and the exact opposite of dictatorial. If this were a dictatorship, the majority wouldn't matter, now would it? It baffles me how anyone can jump to those conclusions. |
Lorelei | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 02:33 pm Aaaaaaaaah just words, SweetPea. Your organization or rather you by your statements have blown out of the water any truth behind the NLUO being democratic in nature. Any intelligent player/president can read that for him/herself throughout this forum with statements from NLUO representation. lol Sorry. FAIL! |
SweetPea | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 02:53 pm I couldn't hear you. Can you repeat that? |
Crafty | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 04:07 pm Its the seond half of the sentence I refer to Wendy, as you well know. Not up to your normal standard, that reply. |
Lorelei | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 05:19 pm Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 02:33 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaaaaaaaah just words, SweetPea. Your organization or rather you by your statements have blown out of the water any truth behind the NLUO being democratic in nature. Any intelligent player/president can read that for him/herself throughout this forum with statements from NLUO representation. lol Sorry. FAIL! Repeated for Wendy. You may not "hear" me, but you certainly are "READING" me, or you wouldn't have reponded wif: "I couldn't hear you. Can you repeat that?" I am ALWAYS happy to oblige the Madam SweetPea..... I will keep repeating as many times as you request. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Yours always, Lorelei The Simcountry Nobody ha ha ha ha |
Lord Lee | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 07:02 pm Get a grip Lorelei. You have no business here. Lorelei does not own a country on Little Upsilon. Neither does she own a enterprise on Little Upsilon. |
Lorelei | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 07:18 pm Lee, baby, you should just keep this statement nearby to copy and paste on a daily basis. Save you some keystrokes. lol It wouldn't matter if I were on LU or had a CEO, you would then have to come up with something else to say... like oh she is a "free" player and is "insignificant" or if I'm a paid player, it would be "oh she is at war level 0 and not attackable". Pfft Sad, sad indeed. lol |
Lord Lee | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 07:27 pm My point is, if you're not playing on this world, what business do you have with it? |
Lorelei | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 07:35 pm Love, if I am so insignificant and am not on LU, why are you so concerned with me? lol I am a player in the game, and I have an opinion, and will thusly give it. So stop wasting your time with me, I will always speak my mind. Not you, not Wendy, not anyone will deter me from that. Move on, love. You have bigger worries on LU, like your impending meeting with Hydra. I'm the least of your worries. ha ha ha ha Oh you might wanna focus on recouping your war losses after your spanking by Keto. |
Lord Lee | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 07:38 pm So to Clarify Lorelei has no business with Little Upsilon in any respect. She is just a busybody! |
Lorelei | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 07:50 pm I don't deny that! ha ha ha But, Lee....better hope I dun make YOU my business. ha ha ha Also, you shouldn't be too quick to jump on the bandwagon against me. You really don't know who I am in the game, who I know in the game, what my influences are. Are you willing to take the chance? *smiles |
Lord Lee | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 08:00 pm 1) Who are you in the game? A Nut Case. 2) Who you know in the game? Yourself 3) Influences are mild irritation. 4) Chance away. |
Lorelei | Saturday, February 2, 2013 - 08:08 pm Gee Lee, you sound just like Wendy. ha ha ha ha ha Are you a Wendy clone???? Oh no, you are just her puppet, her boy b--- :P PS. I watched more episodes of Snapped today on the Oxygen Channel. Best be careful, iffn I was you....if I AM a nut case, as you say. ha ha ha ha |
King Hezekiah II | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 06:53 am King Lord Lee had validity to his statement. Most who speak on LU matters have countries and a stake in the world of LU. When people speak on matters of a world they do not reside, then you must understand that there will be bias just as if you lived in the US, but said your home country is xyz. If America is not your home country what business do you have in its afairs. This is all King Lord Lee is saying. |
King Herod VI | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 08:58 am If anyone wants to be Present at King Hezekiah's trial please post here and say so. other wise it will be me, the Chief Justice, and unfortunately Lord Lee was nominated and confirmed as a Justice of the Peace, Carthage will be Hezekiah's public Defender. He is having a Bench trial. So, say it now, or we are all just going to handle this trial in the LUICC Court(Chat)Room. |
Tom Morgan | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 10:07 am I'd be interested. What time? |
Lord Lee | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 07:47 pm I am interested. |
Lord Lee | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 08:06 pm I will be at the trial. I ask the Attorney General to hold the trial on the simcountry game chat room. Could he confirm the date and time in Universal Standard Time. Lord Lee. |
SweetPea | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 10:16 pm I won't. I don't recognize traitors as holding any NLUO office. Have a nice day. |
Josias | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 10:22 pm Lord Lee, would you like an invite to the Hydra Aux? |
Lord Lee | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 11:00 pm No Thank you. |
Lord Lee | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 11:02 pm King Hezekiah II has personally messaged me and I am only following orders Wendy. |
Lord Lee | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 11:20 pm I do not agree with the trial but if King Hezekiah II is going along with it then who am I to argue otherwise. |
shave | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 04:08 am i wouldn't mind being present just to see how you guys actually go about it. |
SweetPea | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 06:40 am I've withdrawn from the NLUO. |
Serpent | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 01:48 pm Hmmmm? Somebody needs to stay with NLUO instead of deserting them. You are an influential member of NLUO, what made this happen? |
shave | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 05:50 pm what happened to all that traitor stuff? |
King Hezekiah II | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 06:33 pm I was wondering why you have withdrawn from the NLUO President Wendy? |
King Hezekiah II | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 06:40 pm Now Hydra has caused 5 defectors from the NLUO world government. Looks like the government is falling apart. The vision looks bleak. Secretary King Lord Lee. You have been the most active and loyal member of the NLUO. You have risked your assets, and political capitol in the growing of the NLUO World Government. I think the main problem in this whole thing is that most NLUO World Government members were in this thing for themselves, and not the overall growth of the government. I am not giving up. I now see that the international community is only interested in fighting change instead of embracing change. Lo, I go unto the noobs to grow the government, and any current members can come with me. I am going to do my trial tomorrow, and if I am not found guilty, I am going to present my State of the NLUO Address, and just deal with Noobs like I was before. |
shave | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 07:16 pm while i applaud your forward motion there Hezz, that whole noob thing ya through out their kinda sounds mean there guy. might wanna change the language there up a bit. and as I stated before Hezz, change the way you are doing things man. use this opportunity b4 you to do it the right way this time around. quit worrying so much about your holding on to power as you previously admitted. make it a real democracy. oh and a little hint there guy, your two party system there might be part of the problem. as the good book says, that I have heard you quote so many times, a House divided against its self can not stand. you started out divided. that is that will ever come out of a system like that. its only a matter of time. just trying to help ya out there man. |
Lorelei | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 08:26 pm Oh Hey, Hezzy, iffn you like........now that SweetPea has left NLUO, I'll step in and will revive your organization. I will restore LIFE to it!!! I will turn it into something fine and a success!!! Of course, my first order of business will be to get rid of Lord Lee. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Joking. Wish you luck. I will be back soon to give ya a hard time, Hezzy. :P |
Keto | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 10:23 pm Don't give up Hezzy. With the right people in place your government can prosper. |
Serpent | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 10:38 pm +1 Keto! |
Lorelei | Monday, February 4, 2013 - 10:40 pm Actually I am quite impressed with Hezzy's set up and the thought and time he put into it. I firmly believe with good, reponsible leaders, it will be a success. It is a shame that a few bad apples made it a rocky start for this organization. |
Jiang Hu Warrior | Tuesday, February 5, 2013 - 01:14 am everythings going to plan woopee |
Rick | Tuesday, February 5, 2013 - 02:02 am +2 Keto |
King Herod VI | Monday, February 11, 2013 - 06:10 pm Hezekiah's Trial is tomorrow night @ 7pm CST. if anyone wants to show up meet us in the SC chat. |
Lord Lee | Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 07:36 pm I will be there. |
Lord Lee | Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 07:43 pm In London King Hezekiah II trial is on Wednesday 13th February 2013 at 1 a.m. UTC/GMT. |
King Hezekiah II | Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 07:57 pm man, I am sorry it is so late for you Secretary Lee. Hopefully it won't last long, and I will be quickly found not guilty. |
Lord Lee | Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 08:18 pm That's okay King Hezekiah II, I'm staying up late tonight. |
Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi | Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 08:41 pm I can't make it to the trial tonight. I have some other things that I need to do in my personal life. I wish this could have been done when I originally set the date. I would hope that Judge Lord Lee, and Judge Shave can both give a good judgement on the matter. Since you need my vote I believe that since there has been a World War; and Hydra is now in some form working with the NLUO world government, for I am a member of the Hydra Federation. I believe that we should dismiss this case altogether. So, my vote will be NOT GUILTY on all counts. I do apologize I can not be there. I will probably not be able to be online for the next week or so. I will try to check out what's going on, but I need to handle these issues in my personal life that has come up. I thank you, The Chief Justice of the LUICC |
shave | Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 09:53 pm I would certainly suggest one would need to be at the trial to cast a vote. the point in a trial is to hear the case, I do not believe we can count A verdict of someone who is not present. also the fact that Judge Gaddafi has announced a verdict prior to the actual trial is a constitutes a Biased and unfair situation. thus I move for the Barring of Judge Gadaffi from this Particular case. Please understand, I am in no way suggesting that Hezz is Guilty of anything, just saying that we are attempting to give legitimacy to the NLUO court system, and we can not do so by holding a trial in a manner that is not fair. I would also move that both Lord Lee and Myself be omitted from this trial as well. as I pressed the charges originally, and Lee is his best friend and will no doubt bring a Biased position the the floor. I recommend that a temporary and impartial Judge be found for this particular trial that will both hear all the evidence and rule from an unbiased position. His Honer President Shave of the Polarian Republics. |
Lord Lee | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 01:59 am Case Dismissed. King Hezekiah II, you are free to go and no charges will be brought up against you. Lord Lee, Secretary of state (NLUO), |
Laguna | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 02:02 am Awww. I wanted to be there. Oh well, on the flip side I was viewing The Daily Show. |
Laguna | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 02:44 am Everyone's participating and I'm just here visiting. I had a good joke to say too. |
shave | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 03:03 am excuse me Lee, but How do you have the Authority to do that? |
King Hezekiah II | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 03:57 am nobody showed up to the trial who should have. No Herod, no Carthage, no Shave, No Gaddafi. I can keep going. |
King Hezekiah II | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 03:58 am Laguna was even there. |
Crafty | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 01:52 pm What a complete farce your system is. I keep looking for reasons to encourage the NLUO and even maybe help it. So far, I have yet to find any. |
Lord Lee | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 04:34 pm The Judge Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi was unable to make the court date and cast much doubt on the case by declaring a verdict of not guilty before the case even went to court. As Secretary of State presiding over this court case I decided that it was in the best interest to dismiss the case. Lord Lee Secretary of State |
Lord Lee | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 04:42 pm Crafty, I offer you the hand of peace and hope to see you one day involved in the NLUO government. The system isn't a farce but a work in progress and we need active members to make the system work more effectively. |
SweetPea | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 04:44 pm I find it hard to stomach the defectors now being Justices. There's your farce CC. Great ruling Lee. Shave, your sims are on borrowed time. |
King Hezekiah II | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 05:35 pm I support Secretary Lord Lee's Decision being that he is also a judge on the LUICC bench. Nobody showed up. Judge Shave if you would have showed up last night I could expect you to have an opinion, but you did not show up your honor. So, Lee's decision should not be challenged. On another note. President Wendy, we miss you in the gov. Much love. Sis. |
shave | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 07:17 pm ok, I didnt show up because of my previous statement, which you obviously didnt read. I would certainly suggest one would need to be at the trial to cast a vote. the point in a trial is to hear the case, I do not believe we can count A verdict of someone who is not present. also the fact that Judge Gaddafi has announced a verdict prior to the actual trial constitutes a Biased and unfair situation. thus I move for the Barring of Judge Gadaffi from this Particular case. Please understand, I am in no way suggesting that Hezz is Guilty of anything, just saying that we are attempting to give legitimacy to the NLUO court system, and we can not do so by holding a trial in a manner that is not fair. I would also move that both Lord Lee and Myself be omitted from this trial as well. as I pressed the charges originally, and Lee is his best friend and will no doubt bring a Biased position to the floor. I recommend that a temporary and impartial Judge be found for this particular trial that will both hear all the evidence and rule from an unbiased position. His Honer President Shave of the Polarian Republics. It wasn't a fair trial. and of course you agree with it Hezz, you were the one being tried. but you cant have a judge that is your best friend, and the other judge the one who pressed the charges. again Hezz, I am trying to help you bring some legitimacy to this thing. and Wendy, you quit.. no one Yanked your Chain. so stay out of it. |
Aries | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 08:25 pm I am about as impartial as you can get. I support an end to this trial. The NLUO needs to move on from this. |
King Hezekiah II | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 08:43 pm agreed!! |
Lord Lee | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 09:03 pm Agreed! |
Crafty | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 09:07 pm Lee, I accept your hand of peace. You didn't need to offer it though as I have/had not declared or threatened violence to any part of the NLUO. |
King Hezekiah II | Wednesday, February 13, 2013 - 09:31 pm Well, Mr. Crafty, that is very gracious of you. Look how after that short WW, nations are beginning to peacefully co-exist. |
Jiang Hu Warrior | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 01:00 am agreed, WE HAVE PLANS, NULO HAS MOVED ON, can anyone guess whats Gonna be coming NEXT? |
Laguna | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 01:09 am Free candy? |
Serpent | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 01:11 am WW? When was there a WW? Dang it!!! Day late and a dollar short I guess! Grrrr... I man Sssssss |
WildStallion | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 11:42 am Morning all, hope everybody is well and has a good day wherever you are in the world. |
shave | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 05:28 pm I am about as impartial as you can get. I support an end to this trial. The NLUO needs to move on from this. Aries, its not a matter of moving on from this trial, as I actually agree with you on that part. its about how it is done. if things are done unfairly, and leaders can just come on here and dictate how things are to be done without going through do process, then what is the point? there is no point in having, or being a part of a court system that does not adhere to any set of rules. if you win or lose a trial based on who you know, rather then the facts, then there is nothing democratic about it. If Hezz still has the ability to appoint his buddies to high positions, and they have no rules restraining them, then it is still nothing more then a polished dictatorship. that is the point Guys. Hezz, you recently said that the court is to keep leadership in check. well, thats what I am doing. I have no desire to see you prosecuted at this time. but what I do want to see is Honest and real reforms take place in this system. especially in its checks and balances. you were the one that stated you wanted to continue this trial. now, I am all for letting this case be dismissed, on grounds that there was an active war going on , and a dictatorial government in power that has since been defeated. im cool with that. but not to turn right back around and see the very same regime and system set back up. now, we need you to make good on your promises Hezz, lets see some real change here. lets get some legislation put in place that all parties are bound by.If we have a court system, then there needs to be rules of conduct and laws to abide by. lets see a real election take place. where all are equal. all empires represent 1 vote. something Hezz that isnt rigged to keep you or anyone else in power. real reform Hezz, not just a show. come on, lets do this right this time. I applaud your efforts thus far, but we are far from done. |
King Hezekiah II | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 05:37 pm I understand your concern Judge Shave. There are rules that should be followed. What I will do is I will set up legislation to reform the rules of the LUICC because I was already going to set up legislation to change the NLUO Oath. So, I will add this to that proposal. The Secretary of Justice is suppose to hold the Judges in check. If all parties do their jobs, then honestly, I don't believe there is any need for reform. But, since some don't do their jobs, I will set up reform legislation. |
shave | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 05:53 pm I would like a chance to look at your legilation if you dont mind Hezz, and maybe send you some ideas, via mail to help you out in this, I am actually very good at this kind of thing. I personally wrote the Constitution we adhere to in The Unique on KB. |
Aries | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 06:39 pm Shave, my position might differ from yours in one respect. I believe there is a need for less rules to abide by, checks and balances, and procedure in the NLUO to meet the new focus of the organization. The goal is to be inclusive to all governments and federations of LU and to allow them to feel they have a forum to voice ideas and cooperatively contribute to game play and fun on the world of LU. It is also a place for new players to learn the game and to find our community and feel they are a part of the best world of Simcountry. I feel the current pile of rules can be uninviting. The numerous positions available and the current motivations to wield power as an end of itself can create unneeded divisions between us. I understand the recent past of executive orders for preparation for war or war itself and treason trials etc. I think the NLUO can put these things behind and become something much more for LU. |
shave | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 07:47 pm problem with that aries, is that without the regulations, all the positions are pointless, and only serve to contradict the very thing you just stated about every one having a voice. he goal is to be inclusive to all governments and federations of LU and to allow them to feel they have a forum to voice ideas and cooperatively contribute to game play and fun on the world of LU the fact of the matter is The NLUO doesnt provide that at all, these forums right here do that. that is there purpose. the purpose of the NLUO is a governing body. |
Aries | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 07:58 pm NLUO as a governing body? What does that mean? I still get the feeling of the NLUO being something dark and sinister when I hear it being referred to in that way. What is your vision of what role is appropriate for the NLUO on the world of LU? |
Crafty | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 08:04 pm Me thinks Shave has caught Hezzieitus. |
King Hezekiah II | Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 10:58 pm President Shave (Hydra Senate) The Polarian Republic Associate Justice of the LUICC, Member of the Hydra Senate Federation, Federation Congress: Centura Donna-Great Salman Seat, Law of Identity Common Market, Common Market Congress: Centura Donna-Great Salman Seat Here are all of your credentials. |
King Herod VI | Friday, February 15, 2013 - 04:05 am I apologize for not show up. Gaddafi had some stuff going on. Hezekiah, you know what I'm talking about. I went with him to help him with his situation. |
shave | Friday, February 15, 2013 - 09:52 pm no I was referring to what Hezz created it for, not saying that I agree with it. |
King Hezekiah II | Friday, February 15, 2013 - 10:36 pm Herod, why did you schedule this for that day then=? I am not going to post about this anymore. I am done with it. |