| Crafty | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 05:32 pm 
Lord lee has been asked by President Crafty to correct the functioning of his CEO corps in my countries. The corp wages are too low to maintain full hiring in many instances. This causes me problems with my employment figures and causes Lord Lees corps to lose money, so reducing my income from hosting his corps. Against popular perception, CEO corps will actual pay zero CRU if they lose enough money consistently.
Lord Lee has been messaged as per the general accepted etiquette of the game, with the request for him to improve their performance. All I received in reply was, quote "From: AAA1
To: Central Scrutinizer
Real Date: 06-01-2013 03:22:31
World Date: August 13 3087
Subject: Fwd: Re: wages
Message: Forwarded from FEDeral Bank
Computer says NO"
A rather rude abrupt reply I'm sure you will agree. Lord Lee was informed perviously that if he thought he couldnt do anything about his corps then I would have to remedy the situation myself. I'm sure you realise this means nationalising said corps as I see fit.
So, rather than just do what I normally would, which is proceed in my own way, having fufilled my obligation to Lord Lee, I now give the NLUO a chance to show their justice system in operation. I ask them to acertain the facts and advise their member Lord Lee to co-operate with my request by raising salaries (it wouldnt take much of a rise), closing or moving the corps, should they agree that I have asked through he proper channels first. If Aqua were then to refuse cooperation I would expect NLUOs full support in my manner of addressing the problem by nationalisng the offending corps.
Thank you for hearing me out, Crafty. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 06:17 pm
May I ask what are the salaries being used? |
| Crafty | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:07 pm
Not really Wendy, it's not relevant. Suffice to say they are too low for the countries the corps reside in.
I will say that I give welfare over 110 even 120 in all countries. All other Ceos (except maybe yourself and wild occasionally) manage just fine, with profitable corps.
I feel Aqua is just being awkward for the sake of a 10 - 15 rise in salary. It would also improve his profitability. Of course, it's his choice, but then he should just move the corps or close them. If you can think of a way to do it, I would even refund his cost of moving the corps. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:24 pm
Ok I tried. Nationalize them if you want to. If you cannot say what the salary levels that you are complaining about then why even claim that to be the problem?
I'll take a look myself. You could have saved me the time. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:27 pm
Do you have a problem supplying the corps names in question? |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:31 pm
Quote:To: Central Scrutinizer
Real Date: 06-01-2013 03:22:31
World Date: August 13 3087
Subject: Fwd: Re: wages
Message: Forwarded from FEDeral Bank
Not a single corp in federal bank is under hiring. No corp looks like it has a terrible wage either.
Is this the wrong country? |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:33 pm
In fact in that country the poorest performing corporations are owned by Keto and Beast. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:36 pm
Oh I lied, it is Keto's corporation that isn't hiring.
And his corp that is the poorest performing. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:37 pm
Central Scrutinizer,
Again, beast has the only corp under hiring.
The poorest performers belong to Beast and wait for it.... Josias. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:39 pm
Federal Reserve,
None under hiring,
Poorest performers owned by Beast and Keto... |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:40 pm
Federal Express, Same story... |
| Crafty | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:43 pm
Please, Sweetpea, I think I have played enough to know what causes under-hiring. Any corp has to pay a competetive salary. It's even in the game documents for new players.
Federal Bank just happened to be the country I messaged Lee from I presume.
I will provide you with corp names and details, wait a while. I will send said privately.
Would you be the person within NLUO executive that should be looking into this?
Also, with respect, your personal opinion on the running of corps is not in question here. I expect you to treat the matter without influence of your own opinion of how they should be run. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:43 pm
SE Lacerta 1,
Keto under hiring,
poorest performing owned by, Keto, Plexia, and LEE.
ALL of Lees corps make a profit. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:45 pm
SE Lacerta 2,
None under hiring,
Poorest performers, again Keto, Beast. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:47 pm
Lowest performers in this case mean salaries vs/production levels.
Lowest in this instance means lowest salaries.
Oddly enough the lower salaried corps are actually the most profitable. Don't believe me, go look for yourselves.
So, after a brief moment of reflection, it is my recommendation that Lee actually lower his salaries in order to raise the profits/CRU he contributes to Crafty.
I'm still thinking CRU is tied to salary, and if this is indeed the case, it appears CC's needs to take up this issue with more than just Lee, especially since I noted only a single corp that Lee owns performing at the production level that Josias, Keto's and Beast/Ambien's levels, being the case for upwards of 20 or more corps in the various countries listed.
CC, thank you for this stunning display of AssHattery.
Bid away. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:49 pm
There will be no action taken against Lee. If CC wants to fabricate reasons to bid on our player corps as Gaz has, he will do so. He is a free player. Lots of credibility you people are standing on.
You'll have to do better, you try me like I'm related to Super or Shave. Not going to cut it. |
| shave | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:51 pm
lol.. ok?  |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:55 pm
Over your head. It is ok Shave this is level 3 politics and above my friend. Be patient, you'll make it there. I see it in you. Just not for now. |
| shave | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 07:57 pm
ROFL now that was just precious! lol |
| King Hezekiah II | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:02 pm
lmbo |
| King Hezekiah II | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:07 pm
Crafty. Don't you think you are being a little anal in your request, just for your numbers sake. I mean no disrespect as I do know you are a heavy hitter on LU. I just think that you are not being unreasonable in your request just anal. Also, if you all were not hostile to the NLUO from the start, King Lord Lee might have possibly humored you and raised the salaries. This is pure speculation,but it is very possible. I do appreciate your diplomatic posture, and your very eloquent stance on this issue. I tip my crown to you for that sir. Very dignified. I don't think King Lord Lee will change on that issue. Also we have a debate on the issue going on right now at the site. So, as the government, we are doing our part in helping you get what you want out of the issue, but it takes the cooperation of King Lord Lee. Also if it comes out that there is a majority who agree with King Lord Lee, would you be willing to accept the outcome of the matter? |
| Carthaginian0 | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:18 pm
Crafty, although I am not sure I am the person designated for the job, I will take responsibility for this situation. It appears they won't. I will look into it and suggest action where I see fit.
Please message me either at my country "Carthage" or directly. |
| Serpent | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 08:53 pm
This statement or the substance thereof has been stated a few times by NLUO.
Quote:Also if it comes out that there is a majority who agree with King Lord Lee, would you be willing to accept the outcome of the matter?
What exactly does this mean? Does this mean that if the majority of nations in NLUO agree upon a certain matter then those who disagree or who are not NLUO have to accept that decree? |
| King Hezekiah II | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:01 pm
If the None government official is coming to a government official about an issue with another government official. It is the responsibility of that official to bring the issue up on the floor in the government. It should be debated, and voted on. Now. If the government's majority says King Lord Lee is not subject to raise the Salaries. The none government official's issue was taken up voted on, and this should satisfy the none government official. typically it does not satisfy them if it does not go their way. |
| Serpent | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:16 pm
First of all they are not a 'NONE' government official. By your definition you would be a 'NONE' government official from the perspective of many many LU pres who are not NLUO.
Secondly, you say
Quote:this should satisfy the none government official.
Why should it? Can I or any other president or any group or federation make policies, vote on them, pass them and expect NLUO to abide by them since it was determined that they should be satisfied with whatever outcome was considered? C'mon man this is preposterous! |
| Crafty | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:29 pm
Wendy, you are truly are incredible. And you now have the cheek to accuse me of asshattery.
Several of lee's corps paid no CRU at all due to consistently making losses and with low salaries I also receive very little income tax. Those are the figures I am concerned with. Lee's salary/production levels are his business, he's no econ dummy, and you should know, low enough salaries = worker shortage = low production, I shouldn't have to point that out to you. Thats just stupid to recommend he pay even less. Why do you wish to start an economic war with me?
So, sigh, I am making no fabrication, I make a genuine request in the right way to Lee. I have not nationalised anything as I awaited Lee settling things. I am old enough and wise enough to realise that 'computer says no' was just an off the wall comment. Its actually quite funny, but thats a brit only joke, british TV program.
But thanks anyway for your astounding display of diplomacy and representation of NLUO, next time I shall not bother to give NLUO the respect to try and go through their processes. It seems you are intent on destroying their reputation single handedly.
Anal King? Do you have CEOs in your country? Do you let them use 100K+ workers without paying anything to your country. Sorry buddy, but I'm trying to get my countries best I can, not run a frigging charity. Lordy, I offer 120 welfare! Pay your way or get lost.
Thankyou for your offer Carthaginian0, respect, but I believe Lee and I no longer have any issue here. It's just such a shame that Mdm. Secretary of state made an ugly fracas of it again. |
| Josias | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:31 pm
i can point out, that most of my corps, pay out more CRU compaired to other corps of the same type with higher sals.
i do my thing differently, and it works, but crafty is not getting cheated by me. as he's still getting a good paycheck from my ceo.
further, i had this same conversation with crafty, on FB months ago. and we came to a compromise. I raised my sals a little, and he excepted slightly lower sals. he got more, i still made a good profit, and got to do business with him.
i'd have to imagine, much of this issue, is the bull headed response lee gave crafty. i know from experience, that crafty is willing to compromise, on this very issue.
ttfn |
| King Hezekiah II | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 09:44 pm
I am sorry for you feel that way Crafty. I wish it were more we could do. I understand your position, and respect it. My personal opinion is it is sort of anal. There is a debate in the gov on this issue before you even brought it public, so we were aware of this issue for a while, so it is ongoing. We do plan to defend King Lord Lee if anything is done to him out of sure revenge. We do appreciate your diplomatic skills. I guess it is your British charm since brits seem to be naturally skilled at diplomacy. Cheers!! |
| Lord Lee | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:22 pm
I have privately messaged Crafty just a few moments ago and have decided that if he feels so strongly about the issue raised that he can nationalize any of my factories in his countries.
Lord Lee. |
| Arccuk | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:24 pm
Hmm. I usually stay out of these discussions...
If a president of any country decides that they want to nationalize corps for ANY REASON they should be able to do so without reprisal if FAIR WARNING has been given to allow the owner to move them if they so wish.
It would appear Crafty has done this, so where's the problem?
stepping out again..... |
| Crafty | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:24 pm
Good King Hez, because a president has no other recourse against an uncooperative CEO. Its nationalise at risk of war or suffer it. So settling it like gentlemen is far better. After all, it's not an issue of attacking someone else in any manner, just a president trying to make money at the same time as a CEO. It's rarely been an issue before, even between major feds at each others throats, lets keep it that way, it wouldn't be good for the game to have people doing all sorts of crappy things and hiding behind their feds.
So case closed, see you in the bar. |
| King Hezekiah II | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:49 pm
I am actually glad this came out in the public. Crafty is right because both sides are very skeptical of each other, and this can turn into an international issue. I want to commend Secretary King Lord Lee for his most gracious concession. Economically I believe that the Corporation should not be subject to the government in issues of salaries, employment, and production. That is my personal ideology of the issue. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 11:02 pm
Crafty, you are not only an AssHat but your request and patriotic post is hypocritical at best. There are other Presidents running their corps in a manner worse than that you described by Lord Lee.
You also gave some speech on profits and CRU and there is zero tangible evidence that any president can see substantiate to your claims. It took all but 5 minutes to look over your countries and see how full of it your entire original post was. I did not insult you. I gave you what you asked. A full and thorough investigation using the little data you provided.
You danced around the salary issue so I looked at nearly every corp.
You attempted to make it look as if I used the wrong country, and though you provided no particular country, I looked at all of them.
I used the criteria and the standards you used against Lee to demonstrate that in fact Lee is not nearly as responsible for your hypothetical woes as much as a group of president's you never mentioned in the post.
You singled out Lee for this nonsense, likely based on his membership in the NLUO because you cannot provide examples of how he even met the description of what you claimed in your original post. You dodged and danced because you knew this was a bad PR stunt.
I was thorough, my findings were accurate, and your eyes CC are most assuredly proven to be brown my good sir. I have saved this last dance for you, because I do not think you should deserve another after this poor showing of brinksmanship. I expected more of you which is why I took this seriously. I was proven wrong. |
| SweetPea | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 11:09 pm
The bottom line is that ALL the claims of CC's original post were proven not only wrong but also very misleading. This is a fact at this point. I doubt much could have changed since the posts at the top, the situation is probably very much the same.
If CC can substantiate any of his claims using any corporation name and the country it is housed in, I will be happy to laugh at how many other countries are actually doing much worse. But CC chose to target Lee with this deplorable behavior.
Until anyone does use the corporations in any of CC's countries to demonstrate his allegations to be true, there is no need for further dialogue. It will only lead to feelings and stories clouding solid facts that are not disputed. |
| Crafty | Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 11:34 pm
Oh dear. I assure you it had nothing to do with Lee's affiliation to anyone. It was purely an economical matter. I have had the same issue with Josias on FB, he is not 3M and that wasn't a personal attack on another organisation either.
Fact is, Lee was paying too low salaries to maintain full hiring. It went on for a long time. Some of your corps are the same Wendy, but they are nuclear power and such corps that will swing wildly from paying zip to paying large, so I have no problem with those.
You know I dont do PR stunts as you call it, I leave that to you and others. I merely asked NLUO to look into it to comply with the manner in which they like to deal with their affairs. I regret that you turned it into a hate campaign. The rest of us have sorted this matter Wendy, thank you for looking, but I'm afraid you didn't have the impartiality required to produce a solution. Lee did. |
| SweetPea | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:27 am
CC this was over when I posted the facts in the investigation you wanted. Sorry the results are not what you wanted and exactly the opposite. You want a better shovel? |
| Crafty | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 12:58 pm
Really? I dont see any response from the investigation regarding Lord Lee's initial answer to my request. To refresh your memory: "computer says NO". You didn't investigate at all, you used the matter to try to belittle me. It may have worked with a newer player, but my reputation stands on its own.
Thanks again Mdm. Secretary. I wish you prosperity and fufillment in your SC career. |
| SweetPea | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:41 pm
Quote:
So, after a brief moment of reflection, it is my recommendation that Lee actually lower his salaries in order to raise the profits/CRU he contributes to Crafty.
I'm still thinking CRU is tied to salary, and if this is indeed the case, it appears CC's needs to take up this issue with more than just Lee, especially since I noted only a single corp that Lee owns performing at the production level that Josias, Keto's and Beast/Ambien's levels, being the case for upwards of 20 or more corps in the various countries listed.
It is was a fact that Lee's corps are the least of your concerns. Three other CEO's in your countries are running corporations worse than Lee. Ambien and Keto's corps are definitely running so a low a salary that it is their corps that are struggling with hiring.
It is unbelievable that you are serious. But ok. I bought you a nice industrial grade shovel. Keep digging. You need a really big plot opened up to bury that massive rep this thread just destroyed. Normally you are reasonable, but this thread qualifies you for AssHat of the month. |
| Crafty | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 02:10 pm
Whatever. The bottom line that concerns me is the CRU paid to my country. Period. CRU is not so much based on salary as production and cost, to include supplies, so higher Q helps CRU too. Also trade strats matter. Asking for over Q produced reduces your corp performance so lowering CRU. Lee raised his salaries marginally and his profits have increased greatly. Both of us benefitted.
You see Wendy, most of us here would agree that it is in both the CEOs and presidents interests to behave in a symbiotic manner. How I deal with other CEOs is not your business. How do you know I havent asked Keto to raise his salaries too? (in fact I did, and he has). Like wise of Josias. Ambien I dont know if he is actually active, but I have very few of his corps anyway.
Like I said before, I only bought the Lee question to the NLUO because it was my belief that is how they like things done concerning their members. It seems that it wasnt your juristriction anyway, but Carthy's.
So enough of critisising my econ. That is my business. And I think Lee and I have an arrangement with no thanks to you (though I see lee's salaries going down again). And how I run my affairs with other CEOs is not pertinant to the issue.
The matter is done with Wendy, please keep out of it now. You aren't convincing anyone that I'm an asshat, just making a nuisance of yourself.
NLUO need you more with Hezzies and Shaves impending court cases. |
| SweetPea | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 03:14 pm
Quote:Whatever. ~CC
Lol, lol, and LOL!
I'm am proof positive the light that was shed on the inaccuracy of your accusations kind of forced your hand to deal with Lee in a more negotiable fashion. Keep it realz!
King will be vindicated and justified he is.
Shave has all but sealed his own fate by his own admission. It is just a matter of making it official as far as I am aware of.
__________________
Public Relations IS my duty as Secretary of State. If you posted this on the NLUO forum or messaged King or some other official instead of placing this on the public forum, I would have no issue staying out of this problem. You kind of placed in my arena so to speak.
Just something to think about in the future. I am glad it is solved. |
| Crafty | Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:38 pm
Wrong again Wenders, but you would never admit to that would you, for some reason you seem think it would make you a lesser person.
And 'Accusations'? what accusations, what ever did I accuse lee of? Yet again, I just asked NLUO to get involved as Lee is a member, to prevent any misunderstanding and arguements if it did come to me nationalising corps. I did exactly the right thing as per accepted ways of dealing with these issues.
No inaccuracies on my part, dont question my economy policies, they are as valid as anyones.
I had no further dealings directly with Lee therefore my hand could not be said to have been forced. Lee has taken actions under his own volition which satisfy me and presumably him too.
Good result. Now please refrain from trying to drag my name through the mud, I play clean as anyone will tell you and you actually know.
Until next time, Au revoir. |
| SweetPea | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:48 am
All the accusations are in the original post.
/me passes CC the Shovel... Starts the Ipod... and begins dancing. |
| Crafty | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:56 am
Yep, just re-read the original post.
And the accusations are where exactly?
The only dance you do is St Vitus' dance.
Thanks for the shovel, it'll help me clear the horseshit from under my feet. |
| SweetPea | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 12:05 pm
Quote:The corp wages are too low to maintain full hiring in many instances.
Quote:This causes me problems with my employment figures and causes Lord Lees corps to lose money, so reducing my income from hosting his corps.
These two accusations were the basis of your post and summarize what you claim gave you the justifiable need to nationalize his corps.
Both were false.
In all but a single country and a single corporation, Lee's hiring was always full. Only 1 corp in 1 country had hiring problems.
Lee was actually in all but one case running better salaries than presidents who have nearly 2 to 3 times as many corps in all your countries.
I probably would agree with you if you were to name all those players as well as Lee in the post, and not politicized the event painting Lee as a defiant or incompetent CEO. You also did all that with no mention on this thread or elsewhere about the presidents running corps poorly according to the bar you set for Lee's corps in your post.
The post is more accurate for those players. As a group probably they have greater than a 6:1 ratio of corps in your countries when compared to Lee's. |
| Crafty | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 01:57 pm
Silly wabbit. Things changed between my request to lee and your intervention. Both were true at time of writing. Sub 150 will not get you full hiring in my countries unless I decide to provide excess population. At 6GC a million, an option I do not often want to use.
I have explained many times why I posted about Lee only, because of his NLUO affiliation. The other ceos received private attention.
Please go from this now. You are/were no help, and you are now trolling to dig me out.
Bon chance, mon cheri. |
| SweetPea | Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 04:02 pm
Aww, don't use that word trolling lightly. A lot of it going on these days and it ain't all on my end. All is far.... |
| King Hezekiah II | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 06:45 am
Secretary Wendy. You can make someone believe the truth. I know you tear your hair out about these nations who doubletalk, or they think that their reality is the actually reality. The Game Masters watch our government, and they are waiting us out, to see how long we last. On the public voting, the majority wants a world government. Also King Lord Lee suggested feds be able to share gold coins and SC$. This government is going to last> No worries Ma'dam Secretary. |
| Crafty | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:24 pm
You better not be saying I'm doubletalking Hez.
I do not get involved in the drama and bullshit that you and yours do.
I use reason and logic. Do not undo any mending you may have done with me. I am not a baby to be toyed with. My reputation precedes me.
I shalln't bother to try to go through your system again. Anyone can see for themselves where that gets you.
Good day sir. And dont answer me back, it would show bad form. |
| SweetPea | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 02:09 pm
OK I'll answer you then. Asking for an investigation of an NLUO member actually gets you a thorough and complete investigation of a list of facts that expose your poor attempts to provoke a reaction by nationalizing Lee's corps.
You are a double talker CC. You are a liar and a thief. You have a problem with the NLUO and you used Lee's corps as an avenue to carry out that vendetta. The facts couldn't have been more opposite of what you claimed.
Asshat exposed. But yeah, since I actually investigated your bogus claims, that's me trolling. Lol. O...k....
This had to be one of the worst attempts at trickery I have ever witnessed. It was even better because you thought you had your bases covered. Don't forget you didn't even want to name a corp or a country where a problem corp existed. Because there was only one that actually was producing at 114% compared to 115%, and all while other presidents in your country were actually doing much worse.
What a straight shooter you are(NOT). My papa always told me, "you can't bullshit THEE Bullshiter |
| Crafty | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 05:21 pm
Woman speak with forked tounge.
I nationalised zip.
My request was legitimate. Thats what fair people do Wendy, try the reasonable route first.
About trickery and such, well thats just mumbo jumbo.
Lee's corps produced well below 100%. I suppose I'll have to see if I can download the corp history just to shut your ranting up. But why would I bother, you would create nonsense from that too. Lee fixed his corps meanwhile. His salaries went from around 150 to 190.
You are getting so boring sweetpea, you know you are wrong, you just want to rant at someone. Liar and thief is getting a bit strong though. Thief, thieved what? as you are well aware nothing got nationalised because Lee sorted it out, not you, not your ranting, not your twisted version of things, no. Because I was reasonable with Lee and asked NLUO to use their system. Lie, I dont lie, I dont play like that. Liars always come unstuck.
So hush now my hormonial friend, it's not your business, hush, calm, lavender, evening primrose oil, go to your nice place....there.... |
| Crafty | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 05:52 pm
By the way, just having a look see through my LU countries:
SE Lacerta 1 :
Mendola Factory Maintenance Un. AAA1
salary - 150
hiring, 61.3%
production, 69.5%
Valdez Factory Maintenance Uni. AAA1
salary - 150
hiring, 28.8%
production, 32.6%
Federal Bank :
Telnoa Factory Maintenance Uni. AAA1
salary - 150
hiring, 90.5%
production, 103.4%
Witten Factory Maintenance Uni. AAA1
salary - 150
hiring, 37.8%
production, 43.2%
So there are 4, several others are hovering around the 100 hiring mark, dropping below some months, keeping 100% others.
NO OTHER private corps in my countries have sub 100% hiring.
I dont know why Lee dropped his salaries again, but he did message me that I am free to nationalise any of his corps that I want to.
So Wenders, solid proof of your inaccuracies and deliberate attack on my reputation.
I know no other way of showing you how wrong you are, I do wish you would be 'man' enough to admit it. No, tell you what, dont admit being wrong, I know you wont have it in you to do that, just drop it, that'll do. I have given you sound solid evidence. You knew the facts before you started you were just intent on spreading bad feeling.
See, the truth ALWAYS wins out. |
| SweetPea | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 07:00 pm
Yeah you post this DAYS after the orginal posts, I'm sure you built some state corps to skew the numbers. I'm not brand new to this CC, try again. |
| Crafty | Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 08:19 pm
Look for yourself, no new corps, no skewing of anything.
As you say, you are not new to that sort of behaviour madam, but I most certainly would be.
You are in the wrong, you know it, yet you continue to issue forth utter rot. You are wrong, face up to it. It doesnt hurt really. We all learn by our mistakes, but you need to admit them, to yourself at least.
Bye sweetpea, I'm done with this. |
| SweetPea | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:23 am
No I'm not wrong. You would have posted that when I showed none of Lee's corps were under-performing.
If I was wrong you would have given me the salary level of corps you claimed were low.
You would have supplied the country name.
You said it yourself...
Quote:I dont know why Lee dropped his salaries again,
So the situation may have changed. But at the time you started this thread you set records for being full of chit.
If Lee decided to lower his salaries after the original posts then don't try to make the results of that action after the fact part of what you originally claim because you are a liar. Again you threaten to nationalize the corps, and therefore that would make you a thief.
If not, then what are you waiting for? Go ahead and nationalize them if you feel like it. You manipulated conditions in your country to make sure his hiring dropped since he lowered his salaries again as you claim is the case.
None of this validates your original claim which at the time was proven to be a host of lies and misdirection.
You should have been done with this the first time you stuck your foot in your mouth and were proven wrong. Oh well. |
| Keto | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 02:32 am
Sweetpea, you are WRONG! Just admit it for once. |
| SweetPea | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:10 am
Keto did you have enough time to improve your corporations before posting here? Because you sure weren't posting when it was pointed out your sucky corps were doing much worse than Lee's. Go figure. |
| Keto | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 03:37 am
Is that all u have sweetpea? My corps are doing just fine. Did u see the profit my CEO makes? |
| SweetPea | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 07:10 pm
It is all I need Keto. You didn't argue any of the facts when I posted them, which pretty much says it all.
Personally, I'm probably going to remove a bunch of your corps, old world style. I don't care how you or your corps are doing. |
| Keto | Monday, January 14, 2013 - 11:06 pm
Sweetpea, spoken like a true secretary of the nluo.
Its ok for you to take over a non-aligned members corps but its not ok for a non-aligned member to nationalize an underperforming corp in their own country?
Nothing like contradicting,AGAIN, what ever rules the nluo has in place. |
| SweetPea | Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 02:43 am
You must have misunderstood what I mean by old world style, but ok lol. |
