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A couple questions from a newbie (Little Upsilon)

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Richard II (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 - 01:55 pm Click here to edit this post
Hi All!

It's everyone's favorite (aggravating) newbie, Richard II :)

First, I've got my population numbers up and all factories are, with the exception of two, at 100% hiring. I'd like to thank all of you who explained those issues to me once more - and I'm happy to report that issue is solved. Thanks again!

Second, I keep getting a "news report" that my government salaries are too low and therefore weapons are deactivated. The government salary (auto) doesn't look "bad" to me - its nearly 600. My question here is should I assume control of that salaray setting? The menu says once I change it it remains my problem and can no longer be automatically set. Am I asking for a headache if I change that?

Third, now I have CRAP LOADS of LLW, MLW, and more than enough HLW. Is there a way to begin solving those unemployment issues? Currently my unemployment rate is teetering around 13%.

Fourth, what is the best way a President can raise revenue without raising taxes? I have taken most of my corps public and they seem to be trading well on the market. I'm not really seeing the added benefit, but I'm sure there has to be one. For the most part the corps I've taken public have increased in their value but I have had a few that have actually lost value - but cash-wise they're still performing at an acceptable rate.

Last, and as always, I am completely open to your suggestions and guidance, and also as always, I appreciate your patience and knowledge that you share (or expend) on me. I guess due to the high numbers of unemployment that means that I have room for more corps... yes? Should I build more state corps or should I begin soliciting CEO's to build here. If I build, then that's more money and time that I'm out of whereas if I bring in more CEO corps its on them to upgrade, produce, and profit. What would my best course of action be? Based on my current stats (if you have time to check) how many corps do I really have room for before history (low employment in corps) repeats itself?

Again, thanks all - I really appreciate all you've done and all you will do to help this newbie out!

Sincere Regards,
Ken (Richard II of Kennikoslavia on LU)

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 - 05:47 pm Click here to edit this post
solicit CEOs... I have been and will continue to send corps, at least until I have filled your country with the 6. Always go with CEO corps as they give you the most profit per corp. Previous research has shown that the best Salary is +10 of Corp which should put you at 440/400 salaries to yeild the most cost effective strategy.


With Regards,
Dragoon

Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 - 06:25 pm Click here to edit this post
For you to get the most benefit out of public corps, they should be enterprise-controlled, with the largest shareholder owning 24.99% and the country owning just a shade less than the shareholder.

That way the country gets both country resources used fees and dividends.

However gamemaster is hellbent on nerfing public corps, or indeed, any corp that upgrades.

Laguna

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 - 09:12 pm Click here to edit this post
As soon as everyone redoes the math, they'll see state corps are best now.

Richard II (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 - 09:29 pm Click here to edit this post
So Laguna, is it your input that building my own corps is the better route to go now?

What is the difference between Enterprise and State corp? How do I make an Enterprise? By starting my own Corporation? Unclear on that part - Zen mentioned the same thing, but I guess it didn't click until I read these posts.

Thanks all!

Laguna

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 - 09:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Yes.

The advantages private corp offers aren't enough to persuade me otherwise any longer.

shaun (Little Upsilon)

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 - 10:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Second, I keep getting a "news report" that my government salaries are too low...

i try best not to have any state corps and then i have no corp salaries to low to mis match gov salaries. so i can pay gov 200 and ceos can pay corps 600+ and it all works fine with my armies. but thats large scale later on i guess.

3rd point lots of workers best solved with more corporations worker exchanges to fine tune the worker ratios to maximize corps.

best way to raise revenues is to maximize the number of corporations you can have and get them upgraded while reducing costs by paying lower gov salaries and minimizing army size.

you need to start an enterprise account similiar to a country account to have a ceo and it costs 30 gc and the same kind of country maintenance gc thats for later on after you mastered a country a bit better and understand how to get good corp profits.

Zentrino (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 12:57 am Click here to edit this post
If Laguna says it is best to have state corps now, I think we should all have out our calculators to check figures. I would never presume I was right if he said otherwise. But, in the past, the general idea was ceo and enterprise controlled corps were the best bet. Getting your own CEO to take control is even better.
Since the decline in Dec, I have noticed an increase in income but it has never returned to pre-December days.
Zen.

Richard II (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 03:17 am Click here to edit this post
Good post Zen, I got a giggle out of that whilst looking for my calculator. If Laguna say's so, then it must be so. Goodness knows that all you know better than I!

Thanks all for the input - if my pop allows for it maybe I'll build a couple just to see what effect it has on my bottom line - I'll report back as to what happens in the land of Kennikoslavia --- I'll probably wreck the economy... here's to safe driving!

I think I may hold off on building an enterprise until I get the hang of running a country - I was going to get a neighbor nation to start an empire, but I turned from that idea too... I figure it would be best to quasi-master one before adding another.

Lolosaurus (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 04:09 am Click here to edit this post
Get to level 5 before you add any additional countries.

Laguna

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 08:36 am Click here to edit this post
If W3C doesn't remove the price cap or lowers the quality of state corp products, states are best.

The advantages private corps offer are:
- fewer workers;
- immunity to boycotts;
- immunity to war.

Opening your country to CEOs puts the first probable, not a certainty. And you can get around boycotts with contracts. For the third, you must decided whether to delayed the advancement of the enemy or endure the war for longer time periods.

By the way, considering the first advantage, it is possible, depending of which corps are built, to have state or private corps after a certain amount of population/workers.

But I'm not going to wonder about that for now.

shaun (Kebir Blue)

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 08:54 am Click here to edit this post
ceo run corps much better for newbs as it takes that corp sale strategy tuning up to the guys who run enterprises well and if u dont like how a ceo does things u can just nationalize the corp and make it a state corp after all. ceo corps in my opinion better for the huge bonus in worker savings via cripple and house wife conversions and extra upgrades means less workers as well as the immune to boycotts and war damage makes them superior even if for some reason they make a little less money in certain industries vs state corps.

Laguna

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 06:37 pm Click here to edit this post
Profit, in the end, is the biggest advantage of all.

Do not be surprised when your private corps begin getting kicked out.

Andrews Munoz (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 07:58 pm Click here to edit this post
laguna you mean that now state corps are more profitable,
for countries that are full of private corps,
they should nationalize them without having problems with the CE0S?

Lolosaurus (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 08:18 pm Click here to edit this post
;_;

If anyone wants any of my corps (Lemurian Collective or Lemuria Reborn) out of their countries, please send me a message. Unless it's worth like 1T, then go ahead and nationalize :P

Andrews Munoz (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 10:42 pm Click here to edit this post
will nationalization drive player to war?

Beast (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 - 10:46 pm Click here to edit this post
depends on the player. it might.

Pathetic Sheep (White Giant)

Thursday, March 5, 2009 - 09:41 am Click here to edit this post
Quick look and compare suggests state corps are selling identical total revenue. The country resources used is not added in. That means state corps making a profit bring in more cash than CEO corps. Corporations losing money would be better as CEOs because CEOs would eat the losses. In general it is better not to have losers CEO or State.

Anyone know when this changed?

Pathetic Sheep (White Giant)

Thursday, March 5, 2009 - 09:48 am Click here to edit this post
Richard,

Troops usually go into the reserves because of a shortage of either medium level managers or low level workers. The message is the same regardless of the reason.

It can also happen if you don't have enough bases. If the reserve units are only one category of weapons it is probably lack of bases. For instance defensive airplanes but not offensive airplanes or land units, then you are short a defensive air base. That will still give you the same message about wages being too low.


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