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Peace negotiations regarding nulo (Little Upsilon)

Topics: Little Upsilon: Peace negotiations regarding nulo (Little Upsilon)

shane vataja (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:04 am Click here to edit this post
i would like all parties involved with nulo and agenst the nulo to contact me for a peace negotiation let me know the demands and i will do my best to move towards a peacefull and to this war.

country is name is youwillfall period on lu for those who wish to do this in private

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:17 am Click here to edit this post
Shane,

I sent a brief message to your main.

Thank you,
OkstateGuy

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:18 am Click here to edit this post
Suggestion... Change the name of your country to something just a tad bit more friendly...


With Regards,
Dragoon

shane vataja (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:25 am Click here to edit this post
aww ur going after my name now? hmm... i have used that name for a long time i like the sound of it. it has a manly sound.

Jack Frost (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:26 am Click here to edit this post
It has an aggressive sound... one which should not be displayed if your main goal is peace.


With Regards,
Dragoon

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:28 am Click here to edit this post
sounds like peace talks are off to a bad start already.. maybe they should have stayed with me

shane vataja (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:34 am Click here to edit this post
the name does not matter but the actions should. i am doing nothing wrong in having an agressive sounding name. i am a peaceful player on lu. and i am working on improving the feduration i am a part of.

i like agressive music aswel a fast upbeat sound. no other name would fit.

can we start by agreeing no more nukes i would offer aid but my resorces are limited because of the boycots

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:35 am Click here to edit this post
Shane,

I sent you another message.

OkstateGuy

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:19 am Click here to edit this post
Well I have my own set of demands. LoooL


Peace you say?

Everyone wants peace, but the world is not fair atm.

When the world is fair seeming, then there will be peace.

As long as NLUO exists we will be a threat to what power some have become used to wielding.

I for one tried to be diplomatic AND Respectful as far as OKSG was concerned. Did he take my issue with him attacking or promising to attack a fed member seriously? No

He just babbled on about respecting me and being my friend and blah blah. But NO MATTER what I said or how I said it, he was not going to change his mind.

Now there is more damage to King. And his image.

Grayson has committed acts of treason by becoming a mouthpeice for STU/OKSG and whatever fed backs them to dismantle our organization from the inside out. Shame on you. You dare publicly come out on the forum and openly disgrace what King has worked so hard on building. What have you worked on Grayson? How much crap did you have to take just to take a great idea and sell it to the public? NOTHING

If You did not want to be a part of this organization you should have stated so and left. The weak Hearted need not apply to NLUO. The Weak of mind need not apply to NLUO.

To be frank, You unilaterally have/had NO authority to make such a statement to dismantle anything. If you can't take the heat get the **** out of the kitchen. Sorry.

I for one am not willing to make peace with any of these fewls. They want war. Now they want peace? Nah, they speak like the double tongues. Coming every year with false treaties as you have. Claiming to be peace loving yet harboring a guy who has the audacity to proclaim he will remove someone from the game?? Thats not floating on this river.

Grayson i think you owe all of the real members of NLUO an apology for openly causing division in front of a public audience and a statement of voluntary step down. Maybe i will be willing to negotiate further terms when you do at least that much.

Until then. . . . whatever.

E O (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:26 am Click here to edit this post
As clarification,

OkState wasn't sure what our procedure was to be regarding this. We do not wish to negotiate at this time seeing as how it would not benefit us. If NLUO has anything to offer us in return for peace, we are willing to listen. Otherwise, enjoy buying war protection.

Sincerely,
EO

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:43 am Click here to edit this post
Attention Wendy,
After our discussion on the NLUO website. and you Offer/basic demand I Step down I have desided that I would not volunteerly step down from the chairmanship of the NLUO
- my desire was to see that Hezzy and the others choose the path to peace and growth,
[but under the misguided influence of the others they have apparently chose the path of eternal war and hardship.]
that they concede the terrorist section of the website and to reduce that tension thats been a constant source of strife.
you have initiated a vote to remove me from the chairmanship of the NLUO
-allowing only a few to vote [is this the futrue path of the NLUO/a signal of the things that would be if NLUO was a world government],
you have spoke out against the others following me trying to find peaceful growth .

therefore,showing that the NLUO wouldn't follow the guidance of the duly elected.


You WENDY, your Guidance of Hezzy and the others toward WAR has been a constant drain on there possible empires.
Hezzy has had 5 slaves , he could have had a 6 nation empire growing in peace but under the misguided influence he only has the one nation currently,
and what of KingAsia, what has he lost due to your pushing for WAR?.
it's a sad thing to see the ones you think have some potental to be carryed away into the winds of constant war.
And,Wendy if you had just Truely sought peace how large could your empire have been.
Sincerely,
Grayson301

Keto (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 08:12 am Click here to edit this post
well said....well said

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 05:49 pm Click here to edit this post
In my humble opinion, they want you to kiss their asses, period. They feel that they have all this power, and we should kiss theit ass when they are the one's threatening us. We just don't bow down for them.. We don't say, Yea Sir Masa You right, and I's wrong.. We have critical thinking, and if we want to post aggressively we have that right. We don't theaten people if they threaten us, we make threats after we have been attacked.. We have never been on the offensive... They establishment can kiss my red ass if they don't want to humble themselves, and tell the truth.. They are threatened by our existence..

PERIOD!!! If they were not, they would not attack us...

Jack Frost

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 05:51 pm Click here to edit this post
@ Wendy



Quote:

I for one am not willing to make peace with any of these fewls. They want war. Now they want peace? Nah, they speak like the double tongues. Coming every year with false treaties as you have. Claiming to be peace loving yet harboring a guy who has the audacity to proclaim he will remove someone from the game?? Thats not floating on this river.




POT. KETTLE. BLACK

Orbiter (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 05:54 pm Click here to edit this post
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Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 06:25 pm Click here to edit this post
Once again...

SOL/NLUO declared war on Seven Nation Army. SNA responded using overwhelming force to destroy every SOL/NLUO war slave in about one hour.

Our members suffered numerous nuclear attacks until we accomplished our mission. We are not asking for peace. If SOL/NLUO wants peace - they will have to come to us after they have shown signs of good faith.

Until then, we are at war. A war to defend ourselves against the largest war mongrel, terror organization on Little Upsilon.

After all, every recent war on Little Upsilon can be traced back to Wendy/NLUO. Frankly, this organization should be disbanded for the sake of peace.

I appreciate Shane Vataja's attempts to forge peace, sadly your leaders do not share your concerns.

Pathetic Sheep (Little Upsilon)

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:42 pm Click here to edit this post
The Melian Dialogue from Thucydides is good reading and relevant to relations between powerful and weaker groups. The Melians did not submit but they also did not attempt to shout down the Athenian delegates. Nor did they resort to insults.

In the real world I walk around my ghetto neighborhood without fear. I frequently travel by foot in the wee hours of the morning. In daylight I often pick up metal objects to take to the recycling center or reuse. Finding pistol shell casings didn't surprise me but the spent high powered rifle shell did.

My contacts with other pedestrians have either been friendly, attempts to sell drugs (also friendly), and requests for change. Most pedestrians don't talk. The only hostility I have received here was politically related and came from someone who did not like the sign I was transporting. He also didn't sound like someone from the area. [Accents change in and out of U.S. Cities more than by region]

If I roamed into a nearby alley and announced to the group of men wasting time that they had "no business dominating this alley" and that I would "show them who iz boss" it would not go over well. The reason I am not in danger where I live is because I do not cause problems and don't have much worth taking. When I go out at 3 A.M. I dress like someone who has nothing. Since I don't expect to piss anyone off I don't need to worry. Confidence also deters most of the dangers that an inner city presents.

I have a good sense of statistics and I am quite confident that reasonable young Pedestrians in any city on the east coast are far more likely to get run over than die by any other cause. I believe the alleys in my neighborhood are actually safer than the streets.

If King Heze came to town and decided to set up his market on the interstate he would most likely get mauled quickly. Not because teamsters are asshats but because truck drivers don't expect pedestrians on the asphalt. If Heze survived the first few minutes, teamsters and other drivers would start getting mad and make some calls to have him removed. Anytime you get in the way of a large group and refuse to do things that they consider normal you should expect some sort of hostile response.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone from attempting a critical mass or reclaiming the road. Just don't go into it expecting that a group of Americans will all hop out of the vehicles and gladly become pedestrians.

Zentrino (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 01:46 am Click here to edit this post
Thank you for your well-reasoned analogy!

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 02:14 am Click here to edit this post
Dang Sheep that was the absolute most reasonable post I have ever read here.
both Logical and thoughtful,as well as insightful.
VERY WELL SAID.

Archangel1

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 05:06 pm Click here to edit this post
Reading OKState guys post - 2 cents.
Reading Pathtic Sheeps post - 2 cents.
Reading Zentrinos post - 2 cents.
Reading Greyson301s post - 2 cents.

Waiting for Hezzys incoherant, unresponsive, unreasonable reply (You know it will be) - PRICELESS!

shane vataja (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 08:25 pm Click here to edit this post
i am retracting m offer to negotiate peace. archangel1 hit the nail on the head.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 09:10 pm Click here to edit this post
Shane, your a decent player dude and my dealings with you have always been fair and honest - even though you have threatenend to take my whole empire in the coming November! You should dis-associate your self with n00by NUL0 - you will do so much better.....

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:29 pm Click here to edit this post
aLL OF YOU ARE ASSHOLES.. YOU ARE ALL SELFISH AND SELCENTERED.. yOU ALL WANT POWER.. AND YOU ARE ALL GREEDY...

YOU DO WRONG THINGS TO PEOPLE AND WONDER WHY WE WON'T PLAY FAIR...

NOW I TRUELY UNDERSTAND WHY WENDY IS THE WAY SHE IS...

Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:37 pm Click here to edit this post
LOL

General X (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:40 pm Click here to edit this post
LMFAO,you lost control of your own common market,how did you not notice that it was SNA members joining the NLUO market system?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:41 pm Click here to edit this post
Hezzy - cut the crap. We all told you months ago that if you carried on with all the spam and stupid world governments, that you would be treated this way.

This isnt just going to happen for a week or 2 Hezzy - its months - RL months. So, the way I see it is you have a choice;

1) Close NLUO, all terrorist sites /pages (Yes - there is still one, isn't there Hezzy?) and break all ties with Wendy. You would then have to work at presidential relationships with other people to become accepted though.

or.....

2) Get boycotted and invaded every 5 minutes which means that no matter what you do - you will never have an empire.

Your choice.....

Pathetic Sheep (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:55 pm Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah has abandoned the NLUO market system. NLUO is not at war with SNA.

Orbiter (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:58 pm Click here to edit this post
kind heze, this is a suggestion, and just a suggestion, mark it on the calendar, do not post anything on the SC forums, for one week.

again thats a suggestion, i'm not threatening you, you of course you have a right to post, but you wont be helping your cause any with posts like the one above...

General X (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 11:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Im not completely clear on who exactly owns NLUO now,is it LUNATIC or SNA?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 11:14 pm Click here to edit this post
I declare the victory for LUNATIC!!!!!

Well done guys - you have all done yourselves proud!

Now kick out all the deadwood, and call it; The LUNATIC Market

:)

King Hezekiah (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 12:35 am Click here to edit this post
LUNABITCH

Keith Allaire (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 12:52 am Click here to edit this post
LOL. Now Hezy has passworded his little International Court.

Oh, joy. Closed proceedings where the accused are blocked from defending themselves. Where there is no right to confront witnesses. Where there is no right to know the evidence against you. Where there is no right to present evidence in your own defense. Indeed, where there is no right to even know what CHARGES the NLUO has brought against you.

A World Government, that convenes in secret, and claims jurisdiction over all...

Hezekiah, you put me on your little terrorist list months ago. Instead of removing me, you passworded the terrorist list.

Either put up and charge me with something with this newfangled court or shut up. I dare you.

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 01:58 am Click here to edit this post
Not only has Hezzy and ShcyzMattiCa Closed the Court page. but they ARE still attempting to dispose of the Democratic Process that Elected King Grayson301 as the Chairman of the NLUO.
http://newlittleupsilonorder.webs.com/nluonewsmedia.htm
EMERGENCY ELITE PARTY CHAIRMAN ELECTION

NOV 4 2367


View Results


This Election was set up because our current Chairman has allied with an organization who is hostile to the NLUO World Government. We need a Chairman who is has total loyalty to his party and our government. Here are the candidates. Please vote wisely... Answer Votes (38)
King Grayson301 E-Toonsville
84% (32 votes)
President Wnedy E-The Philadelphian Liberation Sta
5% (2 votes)
President Kingasia E-North America Union
8% (3 votes)
President NikoBullDog762 E-Midga Genisis
3% (1 votes)

NOV 2367: King Grasyon301 E-Toonsville won the Emergency Election, so any attempt to remove the chairman's administration was halted, and it is now up to the election at the end of the chairman's term..

No one was available for comment.

Answer Votes (38)
King Grayson301 E-Toonsville
84% (32 votes)
President Wnedy E-The Philadelphian Liberation Sta
5% (2 votes)
President Kingasia E-North America Union
8% (3 votes)
President NikoBullDog762 E-Midga Genisis
3% (1 votes)





and they are STILL trying to install thru a Coupe the miliatant Administration this is to called.
The Shcyz MattiCa Administration

Now you ALL know that by not following the policies of the Grayson301 Administration. and trying to follow the policy of miliatant wing, their Actions of desiding to declare WAR on Stuart and SNA has led to the destruction of their Empires and the economic hardships they now face.
now for those who are not of the knowledge that Hezzy claims to have the support of TATTOOED PRIEST.
You NEED to hold this into consideration: TATTOOED PRIEST is the founder of SNA.and therefore, when Hezzy DECLARED war on SNA he was also declaring on the one who he claims to have the support of.
or WAS HEZZY picking and choosing ?....

Pathetic Sheep (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 03:20 am Click here to edit this post
All of the votes in the NLUO market system are unanimous. Clearly the website votes show the same thing. Heze and Wendy are a fringe group that is hostile to the ideals NLUO members supported.

Tattooed priest may have supported the original idea of NLUO. [I haven't talked to him]. That in no way suggests that Tattooed Priest ever endorsed the recent activities of Heze or wendy.

I think Grayson should be able to lead a group that calls itself the NLUO. The schemes of Wendy should not be called NLUO schemes. Retaliation should be focussed on the correct targets.

Pathetic Sheep (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 03:26 am Click here to edit this post
actually, Shane put in a dissenting vote but it disappeared when he quit. I also made one sloppy vote but it was bad aim with the mouse and I was trying to eat. Not a dissenting opinion.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 03:41 am Click here to edit this post
It appears that grayson has been overwhelmingly defeated in a vote amongst real NLUO members to convict him of treason and depose his rule.

Congrats Grayson.

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 04:05 am Click here to edit this post
Well thanks Wendy,
But there couldn't be a legitamate Trial with out the Legitamate Chairman.. and your not the legally democraticly elected chairman..
Or is this the way things would have really been ran had the LU community sucked the hook,line and sinker down.
So look now WENDY .. the Idea of a NLUO world Government is DEAD. It lays exposed and the naked truth is shown.. the NLUO world Government as you Dream it is a corrupt militant Group. hell bent on Power and destruction.
As is shown in your disposal of the democratic process.
KING HEZZY opened the doors up to the LU community. now You all want to close them and IGNORE the voice of the people.when they SAY KEEP GRAYSON as chairman.

You all don't like the result and therefore try to change the results. which were a consequense of your OWN action.

Once Again: The NLUO you dream of is DEAD.
Disband the IDEA and accept the FACT that it's not wanted like you want it.
It's not Democratic nor is it peace seeking ; the way YOU DREAM it.

Have a GREAT day

ShcyzMattiCa (Kebir Blue)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 05:46 am Click here to edit this post
Elite Party Chairman:LYNX MINOR SEAT: PRESIDENT WENDY E-THE PHILADELPHIAN LIBERATION STATION 5th Term (Nov 5 2363-Nov 4 2373) Chairwoman of the Sons of Light Federation Confederacy Chairwoman of A New LU Foundation Think Tank Chairwoman of the Sons of Light Federation Member of NLUO Market System Common Market

Looks pretty Legit to me.

Grayson I am sure the NLUO would support your welcome presence in the organization. We hope wholeheartedly that you might even assume the chairmanship again.

With regards,
Wendy

Grayson301

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 06:02 am Click here to edit this post
Ah and again WENDY, the whole of LU knows the Truth,about all the NLUO election proceedings.
You must Remember the NLUO wants to be a World Government and Claims to want to let the PEOPLE of LU deside.. well the people have Spoken .. and it wasn't for you.
they decided they wanted a Chairman who tryed to make Diplomatic FRIENDSHIPS with others Nations and FEDERATION.
They DECIDED they Wanted a Chairman who made the True attempts at PEACE thru open discussions.
So therefore your Claims and the Claims of King HEZZY that i have been voted out.. ARE Not according to the WILL OF THE LU PEOPLES.
REGARDS

shane vataja (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 07:13 am Click here to edit this post
hey Pathetic Sheep i never voted i knew it was pretty well pointless. bc i didnt vote i cant complain about who was elected. i can complain about him being forcefully removed from his position.

shane vataja (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 07:37 am Click here to edit this post
"Shane, your a decent player dude and my dealings with you have always been fair and honest - even though you have threatenend to take my whole empire in the coming November! You should dis-associate your self with n00by NUL0 - you will do so much better..... "(from stumysters previous post)

that was excluding ur main unless u remove the secured mode wich i doubt u will

Pathetic Sheep (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 05:16 pm Click here to edit this post
Shane,

I was referring to the common market votes. A few days ago I would have assumed that a dozen countries were supporting Heze's plans. The common market members did nothing to support Heze. When Heze and Wendy declared war on SNA the leaders of SNA assumed that NLUO was declaring war on SNA.

Heze and Wendy can have a secret vote that only they count and then make up any results they choose. Every time there is some sort of vote that is transparent Hezekiah is overwhelmingly defeated. All the available evidence suggests Hezekiah is alone.

Grayson, Shane Vataja, King Asia, and Schyzy are the only known supporters of NLUO based on forum activity. Two of you immediately tried to negotiate and avoid the war. Schyzy is known to support any war there is no need for a cause. King Asia accused SNA of Bullying. That implies that if he thought it through he also would be firmly opposed to declaring war on large federations.

There is no reason to prevent Grayson and Shane from moving forward with NLUO. There is no need to negotiate with SNA. Just inform them that you are not a threat and do not intend to attack any SNA countries or friends. And also that the system you are setting up will not automatically cause a conflict. [I am not an SNA representative and I do not speak for SNA. I claim my conclusions are obvious from forum posts and in-game action.] SNA has no reason to waste ammunition. There are plenty of wealthy inactives with large populations on LU.

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 05:52 pm Click here to edit this post
Thank you Pathetic Sheep for that insightful comment.


As a representative of Seven Nation Army, I consider Grayson a loyal member of our federation. Grayson first joined SNA nearly two months ago. He is a reasonable and friendly person who wishes to play the game in peace. He also wanted to continue reaching out to King Hezekiah and the NLUO.

Shane Vataja, is also a very nice guy who I have chatted with several times in the past. I feel as though many players have been roped into the NLUO/SOL by vast promises of riches and success - only to find incompetence and ruin.

Shane, through no fault of his own, has been losing assets and has been unable to grow because of the war mongrel leadership of the NLUO. He has chosen to leave the NLUO and SNA has reached out to him with an offer of membership.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 05:54 pm Click here to edit this post
"Shane Vataja, is also a very nice guy who I have chatted with several times in the past. I feel as though many players have been roped into the NLUO/SOL by vast promises of riches and success"

LMAO, only an idiot wouls imagine getting rich from joining any federation in this game.

OKSG you are over the top.

All I promise is to dig a deep hole in your arse :)

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 06:32 pm Click here to edit this post
I don't know Wendy, our members have been doing very well. We take time to mentor them and invest in their new countries.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 07:57 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

All I promise is to dig a deep hole in your arse


I very much doubt that. Your main has seen your corp value dive by around 50T since the boycott started, and you are losing around 100B per month there. Not only that, but you have started taking loans too.

Your slaves are all in a very sorry state too. The occasional nuke and destruction of your bases are keeping them that way too. Tommy Gunz and OK state guy never wins will be getting the same treatment in a few hours too. Seriously, why bother creating a land defence brigade with 125 jeeps? You really have no idea, do you?

We will keep up the boycotts, and the attacks on each slave you have, untill you have no choice but to leave LU as your empire will be in an insurmountable amount of debt. Sorry Wendy, your time on LU is up. We have had enough of you.

Yes, it may take a while to finally see you off (main included), but see you off we will.

Go and be an idiot elsewhere, or change your ways. Simple as.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Friday, January 30, 2009 - 11:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Right Stoobie

Good luck with removing me from any world. Your boycotts will be meaningless soon enough. It will take only a few game months once it ends to make sure it doesn't affect me again. I'm sure you know that.

Keep up the boycotts, keep nuking c3s, keep wasting time, I bet I still nuke one of your buddies as I have been doing despite your buddies campaigns.

I'm taking bets despite your tough talk I get a nuke of more than once. Any takers?

Elaieva (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:09 am Click here to edit this post
So, y'know, I have to ask this question. Wendy, I've been sitting back for a while now trying to figure out just what you're trying to accomplish, and I'm at a loss. As near as I can tell your primary purpose here (on SimCountry in general, not just on LU) is to try to destroy what other people have built. You aren't trying to build an economy or an empire yourself that I can tell, and I've looked. Granted certainly it's your right to play the game the way you want, since you pay for it ... but seriously, I'm not getting it. Can you actually be getting that much enjoyment out of trying to destroy what other people have worked hard to build?

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:18 am Click here to edit this post
I don't think there is any merit to your question Ela. If you knew more than the last few days of propaganda, maybe you would be able to answer the question yourself.

Its easy to leave people alone and be peaceful. Sturt, OKSG, they had choices, they made them. They don't want to be peaceful. Well. . . at this point neither do I. They both actively sought conflict with an otherwise peaceful president. At least I wish to fight those capable of fighting and defending themselves. Unlike them picking on players who haven't the slightest knowledge of the war engine. Do you wish to judge me beause of things you don't know about? Or were you just really that curious? So what more to it should there be?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:31 am Click here to edit this post

Quote:

I don't think there is any merit to your question Ela. If you knew more than the last few days of propaganda, maybe you would be able to answer the question yourself.


Yes Ela, you would. Hezzy has started a load of spam threads for the last 5 months - 165 at last count. Wendy isnists on defending her fellow n00b player for some reason.

Wendy is too scared to fight me - thats why she decs on my fedmates instead. She has not once fired a single shot at me.....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PenBqW45Mvo&feature=related

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:36 am Click here to edit this post
Stu, I was actually looking forward to a righteous one on one on GR, I am still up for it, if you think I am afraid of anything. Now lets see who is Scared. Lil one don't ever come round here talkin scared business.

Orbiter (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:47 am Click here to edit this post
"Its easy to leave people alone and be peaceful."

this is true

"They both actively sought conflict with an otherwise peaceful president."

this is not

just because heze didn't press the declare war button, doesn't mean that he was peaceful, in fact he provoked both of those players, by insulting them, every chance he got. and they responded. her track record, indicates that wendy would have done the same as ok, and stu. its just shes never been in the position to be on the "upper hand" in a conflict...

"At least I wish to fight those capable of fighting and defending themselves. Unlike them picking on players who haven't the slightest knowledge of the war engine."

that is a very misleading statement. she isn't actually fighting any one with any real military assets, she's going after inactive players, and econ players that have neglected the war side of the game. their only crime is trying to be in a fed...

Now, here is the Wendy, we know and love. She has her main boycotted, between that and the slaves that in her bomb shelled empire, in month "profits," she is loosing over a T of game cash a day. She is also gaining at least that much more debt a day in war repairs. She has one slave left untouched by war, but we are just waiting for the war decs to kick in on that one. by this time tomorrow, the only military that she'll have left, other than nuke weapons, will be a 1.7m reserve in her main... she has 6 magor players with open war decs against her, and what does she do? she decs on a peaceful econ player, "hoping" to be able to get off atleast one nuke?

additionally, she's in an fed, (nluo/sol,) that was completely defeated in war, in less than an hour, had its common market taken from them. this fed is notorious, for not keeping peace agreements, and even went to the degree of putting on trial the only peaceful voice amoung them...

honestly, yes, wendy's only goal in sc is to destroy it. she has removed any motivation for any one, ever to be peaceful, i mean you can just keep fighting until you win... that is why we are doing what we are doing. it is no easy feat, and not taken lightly... but we myself and the others bombing wendy daily, want to return this game back to a game of skill

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:53 am Click here to edit this post
ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)
Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:36 am Click here to edit this post Stu, I was actually looking forward to a righteous one on one on GR, I am still up for it, if you think I am afraid of anything. Now lets see who is Scared. Lil one don't ever come round here talkin scared business.

Lets attempt to stay ON TOPIC here. . . STU?!

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 01:02 am Click here to edit this post
No quick replys there eh? no prol Stu I always knew you were yellow :)

LMAO!!

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 01:17 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy - im just about to go and do something I bet you haven't done in months, so I will be back in 2 minutes.....sorry a couple of hours!!!

I'm almost all deactivated on GR now, and the country is still for sale so no wendy - you had your chance, but now - no. sorry.

So yes, lets stay on topic here, and talk about LU, somewhere you are moving to once you sell up on GR as you have already said your doing. Whats the point in fighting if your selling? No enjoyment. Sorry.

The fight is LU Wendy, if you cant hack it or win - shut up. You have never fought and won against anyone with balls, so come on - fight me. Decs are already in - do your worst with your 125 jeep brigades, and your fleets with 450 NFP's and 2 nuke subs. Come on - attack me.....

I DARE YOU.

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 01:29 am Click here to edit this post
ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)
Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:36 am Click here to edit this post Stu, I was actually looking forward to a righteous one on one on GR, I am still up for it, if you think I am afraid of anything. Now lets see who is Scared. Lil one don't ever come round here talkin scared business.

Lets attempt to stay ON TOPIC here. . . STU?!

I'm almost all deactivated on GR now, and the country is still for sale so no wendy - you had your chance, but now - no. sorry.

We are on topic, YOU WON'T FIGHT ME on even ground now or ever. Thx for clearing that up.

Grayson301

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 01:29 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy,
I Formally charge you with TREASON and WAR CRIMES against King Hezzy.
Hezzy, you have led down the road to destruction.
Because of you, Hezzy has had every slave he has ever had taken.
you have convinced Hezzy that "It's for the cause" and you call yourself his FRIEND?

if i had A friend like you i would need NO enemys.Because you would be Enemy enough.

So what are your real intention toward HEZZY?

are you really trying to limit him?

is it because he might have more skill than you that you want to see him fail?

Why do you WANT to see the one you CLAIM to be your Friend persecuted and ridiculed and defeated?

Why?

Answer these questions with truth and soul searching. do NOT lie or attempt to evade the Questions .. you are the accused!!!

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 01:32 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy,
I Formally charge you with TREASON and WAR CRIMES against King Hezzy.
Hezzy, you have led down the road to destruction.
Because of you, Hezzy has had every slave he has ever had taken.
you have convinced Hezzy that "It's for the cause" and you call yourself his FRIEND?

LMAO, that would assume that you have the means to try and convict me for such an accusation.

Grayson your term is up, you have been exposed for what you are and it is a traitor, you only hide behind SNA becuase they give you room to run your mouth without direct threat like you did as part of NLUO. All your posturing is cute and all, but your run as a spy is done. Have a good day.

General X (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 01:34 am Click here to edit this post
Then what is the point of setting up an international court for the nluo?how is SOL or nluo going to convict stuart,or okstate?

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 01:37 am Click here to edit this post
You seem to be misled GeneralX

E O (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 01:43 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy answer me this:

You declare war on Seven Nation Army.

We then respond and attack you.

Then you are mad at us for attacking you.

What did you expect?

We know your track record and didn't feel safe leaving a war declaration sitting around.

Elaieva

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 02:57 am Click here to edit this post
"If you knew more than the last few days of propaganda, maybe you would be able to answer the question yourself."

I haven't been actively playing again for more than a few weeks, but I was playing long before you started, and was an active player WHEN you started. I saw the beginning of Wendy as a player, went away for a while, and came back to more of the same thing. You never, from when I first encountered you on the game, were trying to build and learn; you came into the game and immediately started deliberately making enemies. You don't strike me as a stupid person, so there's no way it was accidental. And yes, I'm really that curious, so I'll ask again. Can you actually be getting that much enjoyment out of trying to destroy what other people have worked hard to build?

ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 03:26 am Click here to edit this post
Wendy answer me this:

You declare war on Seven Nation Army.


I declared on OKSG, who made more than clear that he would attack King at his earliest convenience.

Is this any different than declaring on me? EO?


"We then respond and attack you.

Then you are mad at us for attacking you."

Mad at you? No. Mad at SNA? No.

Mad at OKSG? Yes. This all could have been avoided.

Where on this forum, or anywhere else for that matter do I stste "I am mad at SNA? or EO? or TP? You will not find one example of any statement made by me. I hope that clears it up EO.


Ela, No I don't enjoy destroying anything. I do enjoy playing though, the drama, the wars and now an econimic war as well add a level to the challenge presented in playing this game. So naturally, all this is amusing. It doesn't bother me as it would others, maybe thats why you think I am gaining some enjoyment. I just see this as part of the game. But this seems to have spiraled out of control into a tit for tat conflict. It is what it is now. What can I say. I will just continue playing. Leaders of federations in conflict should weigh the fact that I will act the way I do when approaching conflict with me. I happen to like many of the players on the opposite teams. This may seem to not reflect in forum exchanges, but when its all said and done here, I hold nothing personal. I just will go as hard as any other when playing, there shouldn't be anything wrong with that.

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 03:43 am Click here to edit this post
ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon)
Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 01:32 am
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Wendy,
I Formally charge you with TREASON and WAR CRIMES against King Hezzy.
Hezzy, you have led down the road to destruction.
Because of you, Hezzy has had every slave he has ever had taken.
you have convinced Hezzy that "It's for the cause" and you call yourself his FRIEND?

LMAO, that would assume that you have the means to try and convict me for such an accusation.

Grayson your term is up, you have been exposed for what you are and it is a traitor, you only hide behind SNA becuase they give you room to run your mouth without direct threat like you did as part of NLUO. All your posturing is cute and all, but your run as a spy is done. Have a good day.

Wendy I respond to you with this
so you do not deny the FACTS of the accusation?

" LMAO, that would assume that you have the means to try and convict me for such an accusation. "

does this mean you Admit you have really been attempting to limit HEZZY. you laugh at it and do not deny ... you can't deny it because it's the truth.
Hezzy look and open your eyes to whats said. she is your destruction

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 04:07 am Click here to edit this post
Listen everyone. Wendy is an irrelivant part of this game. That is why I ignored her for so long, and have only become involved now because of her constant attacks on my fedmates to get at me. Yes everyone, she declared on my fedmates to get at me, because she is scared to fight my empire. She is scared of getting humiliated. Even when I did declare I didn't post anything. Why? Because shes a nobody. A nothing. A non-entity.

She has no power here, she has no armed forces, her empire is a joke, and in that much debt that its actually funny.

Just ignore her and she wont get the personal satisfaction from it. Just do what you have got to do - post what you want, but ignore her cries for attention.

Remember; shes a nobody. Never will be on here either.

And before she starts going on about fighting me on GR; Wendy - you asked for peace. You said no apologies needed, just lets not attack each other. That is all available for anyone to see on the GR forum. So, I start deactivating my weapons and guess what - she's back again mouthing off. I'm not having it Wendy. You are no longer allowed on LU. You may be here, but as I have said before - not for long. Every slave you get will now get the same amount of attention without us actually taking anything.

We may not get rid of you, but we sure as hell will make you get that Visa that your so fond of out a bit more often.

Remember - YOU declared on us and YOU declared on SNA. It dosn't matter who it was as an individual, just that you declared. Now, we see SNA in the fight, me and my fedmates in the fight, and Hezzy? Well, he hides as did you till we caught your one only half decent slave out of WP. That too will get attacked till your swiping that Visa again.

Good luck Wendy - this time, there is no end. We are not going to take those countries. We arent going to take YOUR debt. So, good luck. I have a feeling your going to need it. And your Visa.

Thankyou.

General X (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 04:51 am Click here to edit this post
Im sorry but this is just something i dont get and i was hoping hezzy will explain this to me or stuart since he should care more than I.This just a little something i found on the NLUO website.

July 31 2362: Still no word from either candidate. We know from an inside source that President Kingasia E-North America Union is currently in a war with Etruria. He has actually now have won 2 wars against Etruria, and liberated 2 nations from the Etrurian Empire.. We have no word from King ac Daddy I-The Land of Birds, but he is currently in the lead in the polls.. Will he be a new member of the Elite Party. We will know in 4 months!!!

when did king asia ever declare on stuart and when did king asia come even close to taking 2 of stuarts countries?

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 05:05 am Click here to edit this post
Thats really on the site?

Hezzy - Bulls**t. Consider EVERYONE in NLUO now in an active state of war.

No more playing. No more crap. Come out and play Hezzy - You have just got me mad.

See the propoganda they are prepared to put out? Its all baltant LIES.

NO ONE HAS EVER TAKEN A COUNTRY FROM ME.

Hezzy - YOU ARE A LIAR.

Now come out of WP and come play.....

General X (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 05:36 am Click here to edit this post
oh i forgot one,my mistake here it is stuart.
another one of these mysterious non-existent actions.

Cold War Act: The Cold War Act was enacted by the War on Terrorism Act. This act caused the United Israelite Empire to blockade Etruria to expose terrorism on LU to the LU Community. This cold war was basically a dimplomatically fought war. It

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 05:39 am Click here to edit this post
A reply from Hezzy;


Quote:

From: United Israelite Empire
To: Etruria
Real Date: 31-01-2009 05:39:37
World Date: May 03 2370

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Subject: Fwd: Re: LIAR
Message: Forwarded from Caldera

Shut up talking to me.. I don't care what you do.. You are a febble minded person.. I am not a liar, and if you ever call me a liar again we are going to have problems, wait, you are too pussy to fight stright up. You have to hide behind your friends, and propaganda.. You can't just let us build, and kick your asses straight up, you have to be manipulative,and boycott, and come 10 nations at a time... and last Kingasia said that he took them, that is the only reason I said it "ASsPHAT" Use us for target pratice if you will because I am not concerned with growth.. I am concerned with installing the NLUO, and we will, and there is nothing you can do about it..We will always have our main countries.. Kiss my ass, and don't email me anymore, because I won't reply.. I am going to act like you don't exist.. You can say anything you want do anything you want.. You will never get a reaction, never.. So. Do what you do...




lmao dude. War it is then.

I hereby vow to destroy ANY assets ANY NLUO or SOL member has exposed.

Thats it. No more comments on this crap.

Lets destroy the real terrorists on LU

Lets destroy NLUO

JOIN LUNATIC TODAY!!!

By the way Hezzy - your a liar.

ShcyzMattiCa (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 06:10 am Click here to edit this post
Lets attempt to stay ON TOPIC here. . . STU?!

I'm almost all deactivated on GR now, and the country is still for sale so no wendy - you had your chance, but now - no. sorry.

We are on topic, YOU WON'T FIGHT ME on even ground now or ever. Thx for clearing that up.

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 06:15 am Click here to edit this post
I will fight you anywhere where I am able to Wendy. I have deactivated most of my weapons on GR as you know because of the peace agreement that you proposed on that world. I am now leaving that world, and nothing you can say or do will change my mind. LU is a different matter. LU is my homeworld. I will assist in your destruction untill you realise it is game over on my homeworld.

Now, I agree, lets stay on topic;

Wendy is an irrelivant part of this game. That is why I ignored her for so long, and have only become involved now because of her constant attacks on my fedmates to get at me. Yes everyone, she declared on my fedmates to get at me, because she is scared to fight my empire. She is scared of getting humiliated. Even when I did declare I didn't post anything. Why? Because shes a nobody. A nothing. A non-entity.

She has no power here, she has no armed forces, her empire is a joke, and in that much debt that its actually funny.

Just ignore her and she wont get the personal satisfaction from it. Just do what you have got to do - post what you want, but ignore her cries for attention.

Remember; shes a nobody. Never will be on here either.

And before she starts going on about fighting me on GR; Wendy - you asked for peace. You said no apologies needed, just lets not attack each other. That is all available for anyone to see on the GR forum. So, I start deactivating my weapons and guess what - she's back again mouthing off. I'm not having it Wendy. You are no longer allowed on LU. You may be here, but as I have said before - not for long. Every slave you get will now get the same amount of attention without us actually taking anything.

We may not get rid of you, but we sure as hell will make you get that Visa that your so fond of out a bit more often.

Remember - YOU declared on us and YOU declared on SNA. It dosn't matter who it was as an individual, just that you declared. Now, we see SNA in the fight, me and my fedmates in the fight, and Hezzy? Well, he hides as did you till we caught your one only half decent slave out of WP. That too will get attacked till your swiping that Visa again.

Good luck Wendy - this time, there is no end. We are not going to take those countries. We arent going to take YOUR debt. So, good luck. I have a feeling your going to need it. And your Visa.

In 2 game days, Tommy Gunz gets hit. You have had more than enough time to build it up, but from my recon planes reports - you haven't. So - yet another easy target.

ShcyzMattiCa (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 06:27 am Click here to edit this post
Yeah easy targets seems to be your preference. Stu speaking of, you have never fought anybody good at the war game. I mean sure you have taken some of my 6 mil pop c3s with the assistance of others. Ok but nothing to brag about. But when have you ever really fought a real war?


NEVER and today you have just added to that streak.

I can give you time to reactivate all your weapons, I see your war slave in lovely condition. Top War rank. And Nobody is bidding on it. Well the lone bid is my 50 gc :). Why not just reactivate so I can kick your arse off GR in Style. Who says you can't go out with a BANG!!! Yeah Baby!!!

Okstate Guy (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 07:53 am Click here to edit this post
@ King Hezekiah:


LIAR!

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:07 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah (E-United Israelite Empire)
Site Owner
Posts: 23 Wendy - We will never have peace with you amoung us. You must leave the NLUO.


I am now the Chairman - I am appointing myself. This must be done to restore order and save the NLUO.

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11:38 PM on 01/31/2009

whats this another coupe

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:10 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah (E-United Israelite Empire)
Site Owner
Posts: 23 Why are the rest of you idiots not fighting! We are in a world war, DEFEND your KING!

11:10 PM on 01/31/2009

i think they have lost their minds

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:13 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah (E-United Israelite Empire)
Site Owner
Posts: 25 I SAID ABOVE THAT I WOULD FOLLOW GRAYSON301! He is the chairman of the NLUO, NOT Wendy!

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11:06 PM on 01/31/2009 Flag Quote & Reply



Grayson301
Member
Posts: 11 thank you for your support HEZZY...

now follow and distance yourself from WENDY

11:12 PM on 01/31/2009 Flag Quote & Reply



King Hezekiah (E-United Israelite Empire)
Site Owner
Posts: 25 NO I DID NOT TYPE THAT!!


Wendy is the chiarman. We can't be democratic because they can out vote us. This is stupid. We can't trust this site anymore.



looks like Hezzy has double Standards and can't make up his mind what the heck he's going to do

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:34 am Click here to edit this post
King Hezekiah (E-United Israelite Empire)
Site Owner
Posts: 27 Wendy - We will never have peace with you amoung us. You must leave the NLUO.


I am now the Chairman - I am appointing myself. This must be done to restore order and save the NLUO.

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11:38 PM on 01/31/2009 Flag Quote & Reply



King Hezekiah (E-United Israelite Empire)
Site Owner
Posts: 27 Wendy is a coward!

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12:12 AM on 02/01/2009 Flag Quote & Reply



King Hezekiah (E-United Israelite Empire)
Site Owner
Posts: 27 Wendy can't be the Chairman:


1 Timothy 2:11-13
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

12:30 AM on 02/01/2009

ALL THIS IS FROM THE NLUO WEBSITE. posted in the forums .. i really think somethings wrong with them

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:37 am Click here to edit this post
One more

Forum Home > The Little Upsilon Foundation Policy Debates > Women in the NLUO

King Hezekiah (E-United Israelite Empire)
Site Owner
Posts: 28 I have been considering my friend Wendy's presence here amoung us men. I have come to the conclusion that we must ask here to leave all leadership activities. I present this evidence from the GOD of the NLUO:


1 Timothy 2:11-13
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve.


This is the truth, which only I can fully understand and interpret.

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12:34 AM on 02/01/2009 Flag Quote & Reply

Lolosaurus (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:43 am Click here to edit this post
That doesn't sound like Hezekiah. He doesn't use dashes like -. He just trails off.... like that.... instead... Also he didn't use the words "terrorist" or "axis powers" at all!

Obviously someone is posting silly things using his forum account to stir up trouble.

Well, either that or he's gone bat-shit crazy.

Orbiter (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:45 am Click here to edit this post
either one, you could toss a coin, but my vote is the later

Orbiter (Fearless Blue)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 06:47 am Click here to edit this post
did he really say, only he can understand? wow

Grayson301 (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 07:30 am Click here to edit this post
Hezzy just deleted my NLUO account ... whats he trying to really hide?


and yes he did go BatShit crazy.

@Lolsaurus,
with all thats happened to him and watching him on YOUTUBE in which i followed the links from the NLUO site He is indeed BatSHIT.
lynzii808
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpGZUfuvuo&feature=channel

Stuart Taylor (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, February 1, 2009 - 10:49 am Click here to edit this post
This is even better. This is his whole you tube channel. Watch him dance!!!!!

http://uk.youtube.com/user/lynzii808

I now realise the mentality of the person we are dealing with.

lmfao. Idiot.


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