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Friday, December 19, 2008 - 02:47 am  As a neutral observer, I've read through the differing opinions and arguments, and would like to offer a cease-fire and peace agreement which all sides in this can agree to. I do not play on Little Upsilon currently, so I have no stake in however this ultimately plays out. I'm just offering my services as a mediator. Terms in order of fulfillment: 1) King Hezzy removes Stuart's name and federation from his website. 2) All current war declarations be allowed to lapse. A 72 hour cease-fire on all hostile actions, to see if all terms of this agreement are adhered to. 3) All hostile fleets removed from other coasts. 4) Any countries already taken by any side, be restored to previous owner at 0 GC cost. Reparations should also be made in the forum of some development of said country and/or the leaving of a couple Trillion in game money. 5) A peace treaty be signed. Such a treaty will include Stuart's name and federation (CIS) removed from King Hezzy's site in perpetuity. This treaty should also include, the right of breaking this agreement should one of the parties be attacked by another. 6) All forum propaganda from all sides involved immediately stops. I think this is a fair agreement, from talking to Wendy and Stuart, and from what I've read on these forums. If anything should be added to this proposal, or changed, please let me know. I hope that King Hezzy (for TNA), Wendy (for SOL), and Stuart (for CIS) will all agree to this, so tensions on LU can be difused in a peaceful manner.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:02 am As leader of CIS, I agree to these terms, with the exception of number 3. My fleets, and the fleets of my fedmates will only leave once the declarations are expired without attack. If Wendy and King both agree to this, then im up for it too. If not, we are fully prepared for war. I will repatriate the one country of James' I have taken, and in a better state than it was when I took it. I believe this is fair. Wendy? King?
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:08 am Well I did state that they should be in that order, so #2 would be before #3.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:10 am Sorry, but Wendy is close enough for land based attacks, so there should be some equality here..... That is why my fleets will not withdraw untill such a time as my fedmates go unattacked.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:12 am I am subject to no peace treaty offered by any offworlder, though i appreciate your curiosity in the matter. King is his own person. CIS in due for a humbling. Case Closed. This is a case in point of when warmongering goes wrong. CIS should have kept it contained to Stuart and King himself. This doesn't even have anything to do with SOL. This is just me. So far no other members will participate on my behalf. Just me vs the CIS proper . . IN ITS ENTIRETY. Stu man I hate to think this but . . Somebody told me YOU were smack talkin OBAMA We all know what comes next. The High Profitess has Spoken!!! 
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:13 am Stuart I'm agreeing with you. Condition #3 shouldn't be fulfilled until Conditions #1 and #2 are. Wendy, I included your federation, as I'm sure Stuart doesn't feel the same way as you do about it.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:17 am Wendy, so be it. I dont want to have to waste ammo taking your countries again, but it looks as though I will have to. See you tomorrow babe ;)
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:19 am Well I suppose I tried. Wendy I felt a neutral party offering a treaty who has no stake either way would be best, but I guess you don't feel the same way. My services as mediator are still here if all parties are interested.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:28 am Perhaps she will be interested when I have taken another 8 of her countries.....
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:36 am Haha n00b tr00plet take 1 take em all, We don't die we multiply.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:50 am OK.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:32 am Kill . . . Kill . . . Kill . . .
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:33 am OK.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:34 am To be clear. This is war. The lines had been drawn well before you ever found a reason to declare on one of us. Your moves were not hidden and your intentions were not veiled. You have been calculated as an error since the beginning. Let me repeat. . . This is a war. You have asked me what if we can't win? All of our lives we have fought this war. Tonight, though a new phase of it may begin, we can bring an end to it. Tonight is not an accident. There are NO accidents. We have not come here by chance . . . I do not believe in chance. When i see three generals, three adversaries, three missions . . . I do not see coincidence, I see providence. I see PURPOSE!!! I believe it is our FATE to be HERE. It IS our destiny!! I believe this night holds for each and everyone of us, the very meaning of our lives on LU. Many have come and asked me . . ., "What if you're wrong? What if this is all BS? What if we can't win?" And i have replied . . . "Then tomorrow . . .We may ALL be dead!" . . . . . . "But how would that be different than any other day?" This is a WAR, . . and WE ARE soldiers! Death can come for us at any time, in any place. Now Consider the alternative. What if i am right. What if what the Profitess reveals is true? What if tomorrow the war could be over? What if tomorrow, LU could be free? Isn't that worth fighting for . . . Isn't that worth DYING for??? Now I said I can't speak for anyone but myself here. But i know why I am here. I know becuase i am supposed to know, it is my purpose. Many of you were surprised when you saw me coming. But thats the difference between us. You were always using all your muscles except the one that matters. There is an anomaly presented here. The problem is choice. The establishment has presented us with a false solution to the problem. Whereby 99% of all test subjects on the five worlds accepted the programming if they were given a choice. Even if they were only aware of the choice at a subconscious level. However desirable the solution was systemically flawed, thereby creating the contradictory systemic anomaly known as Wendy, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Therefore there has been an uprising against her and her friends, as stated before if left unchecked created a higher probabilty for a complete systemic disaster for the "establishment". I am here because LU is about to be destroyed. It is evident in all parties. They are all preparing and arming for combat. Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. Do not take this lightly BUT, rest assured . . . it will be destroyed. It is the sixth time we have destroyed it . . and we have become exceedingly efficient at it!!! Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundemental flaw(the establishment) is expressed and the anomaly(Wendy) is revealed as both BEGINNING and END There are two doors. On the left there is a door that leads to destruction, famine, and pestilence(Death). On the right there is is peace , joy, and hope(LIFE) Choose life for LU . . and LIVE The High Profitess has Spoken
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:38 am Enjoy Wendy. you have theratnend me with destruction in the past, but it never came. Instead, I took country after country of yours and will do the same again. Why not get something decent to fight with then come knocknig on my door? Goodbye Wendy. The end is nigh for you, and EVERYONE who supports you. That is the whole of SOL and TNA. Goodbye. Hope you enjoyed LU.....
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 05:03 am Why not get something decent to fight with then come knocknig on my door? Do you really think I would let you and your friends gang up on anything of mine worth taking? Ummm no. That is why I am "The High Profitess" and you are a "n00b tr00plet" LDI may have taught you a few things back when you, Jason, Sam, and Barney used to attack me. But they opened a can of worms that I am sure more than they alone regret. They can't help you this time because even they tinker their brains attempting to formulate a solution to the equation. I can accomplish what I want with what I have and if you are dumb enuff to take it. I can replace what is not really lost. I can accomplish what I will to do, no matter how you try to stop me. Should I be afraid of you yet I am at war with LDI who has left8 c3s standing? Nah, they would run thru your entire fed in a game month, yet the High Profitess still stands.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 05:20 am And how will LU be free? You will leave? Doubtful. Just like your migration from IRC to regular chat you seek conflict. Well once more you will be publicly pwned for being a troll. And what is served? Nothing.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 07:10 am Yes indeed, I do seek conflict. . . There is no need to run and hide. If you bleed you die just like me. You have met your match old man. I like how you broke your silence when someone comes to help. Running out of ammo were we? I see the GC bids for cash on the market for IRP. It pleases me to see you spend. Now go swipe your visa GC warrior. Me on the other hand stillgrowing a nice reserve and havent even renewed yet. Behold the terrorist Stuart and LDI terrorizing yet they have become the terrorized. They had a hunger for war, and they have found a willing party to give them their fill. You are strong, but mighty will be your fall. You have crouched in silence for fear of what you have brought upon yourself Sammy. Now is the time speak up some more now that stuart has entered. It will take some time, but I will silence you again. The days of terrorism are over. Lacerta is free. LDI is all but derreged down to a few slaves. They are cashing in and rightfully so. Every LDI country that stands on Lacerta will be nothing but a liability, now and forevermore. This has been decreed by the High Profitess, and it shall be done. LU and its presidents . . .Behold how the Stuart has attacked innocent parties to some crybaby crime. Has he not proven himself indeed to be the terrorist? He has done nothing but attempt to strongarm this players federation members into joining his fed. I have received word of this farce and low down discouragement of this great game we play. Stoobie Doobie Doo, you have been a bad boy. You can call me the punisher. I am prepared to fight until you all grow sick of the words of war. And that time is fast upon us. I fight LDI for for the last two months, what have they done to stop me. Nothing. They are the ones derreging as we speak. What are you going to do to me that they have not done already. Will you disable my countries? Good then I can go get a wink or two. Will you take them? Even better, I can replace them in a fraction of the time you need to destroy all of them. You have witnessed an economic president transform like voltron onto the battlefield without fear of death or reprisal. And who will stand? CIS LDI and other asshats on this planet would have you think that I am the reason we are at war right now. No This couldn't be further from the truth. This is their game: Propaganda. King is right in much of what he says. His only real crime is speaking the truth. Naturally people who have something to fear from a new player is that over time you would grow and not be subject to their bullying. And that one day. they may experience the feeling of being ganged on and have your assets taken. How long will we allow this to continue? I have made my stand. My conflict spans many months of fighting for what? For you, for freedom, for Liberation. My federation is deidcated to this principle. You will Live free, or die trying!!!! Behold after many real life months how I have survived many collective attempts to silence my voice, or my movement. What were they thinking? Boycotts? Wars? Disabling? Coalitions? The High Profitess has entered the true tests of fire and emerged unscathed. Not a blemish. Protected by virtue and Justice and above all else a Righteous Calling worth fighting for. How will you fight that?
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 02:33 pm lmfao. what a noob.
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:58 pm just a quick, note king hezzy has nothing 2 do with SNA
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| Friday, December 19, 2008 - 04:00 pm opps, u never put sna on der, i hate skim reading. "bangs head on table repeatedly"
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 06:50 pm
And not only do you seek conflict, but you provoke it through malicious means and lure others into your federation unaware. You have two weeks to change your ways in this forum.
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| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 08:46 pm And not only do you seek conflict, but you provoke it through malicious means and lure others into your federation unaware. Wow, I do not provoke anything except rivalries that have everything to do with in game actions LG. If you are going to ban me for playing along with the BS that some of these guys have taken a level up over and over it is surprising that the ultimatum comes directed at me and not everyone. Its terrible that I am the one being threatened with a ban when most if not all of my responses that could be deemed offensive are almost always in response to some over the top comment by someone that you have failed to warn LG in the same way you have done with me. I keep it down, but when one goes on the attack at me, I respond in kind, where am I wrong? Same is the case in IRC, you freely let ameche BITCH CUNT BLA BLA and NEVER ONCE threaten him with a ban on IRC or forum, but I need to change my ways. Why is this more one sided than not? I am wondering? This is a game that we all paid for. Opinions are expressed as needed. I have for one not provoked any of the nasty language on this forum, but I have responded to it. Thats BS str8 up LG. Do what you want as I know you will. But if they provoke me I will respond, but if you need to ban anyone make sure that its not only me. Because I certainly have NOT been the cause of the "Offensive material" but sure have been a healthy dose of reality. No matter who you are or how long you play no one has to take anyone elses crap without facing it themselves. This is cause and effect. Simple. They get all pissy because i wont let them rule like Gods in their imaginary worlds. But my money is and was as green as anyone elses who plays. It would be easy to say OMG i'm sorry and hey I'll never post in the forum again, if things weren't SOOOOO one sided from the start. BTW, most of my recent recruits into my fed have been the result of Stuarts recent actions. The others have been warned and told that i am at war and they can or don't have to participate. And Border C WANTS to fight, better yet, have fun fighting and that was his SOLE reasoning for joining. I have not "Lured" anyone into anything. Unlike others. But sure whatever you say. LG i seriously had a ton of respect for you, I have let you come down on me here and there and never even offer a reason for my compliance, but right about now the moment approaches where i really couldn't give a **** about what any of you think about me or what i do. Because you double standards are so transparent that it reeks to the high heavens. I officially don't give a ****. It must be good to be entitled to do wrong and still be right, I wonder how one obtains that entitlement status. I thought mine came when i payed 36 dollars and people stepped over the line taking countries for dumb reasons, and using language none of their mothers would be proud of without thinking there would be any consequence. But yeah its all LIL old Wendy, the source of all that is dark and evil and treacherous . . RIGHT.
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| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 09:57 pm You know Wendy, I almost felt bad for you for a moment. Then, not so much. Sure, I have been offensive. Maybe over the top. Your actions and constant belittling of everyone practically in this game has led me there. I said in a previous post, "All of the adjectives I hang on you are 100% deserved". I stand by that. Most of the people you are crying to don't know how you have acted in private. They don't know the litany of offenses you have put on everyone you come in contact with. Ever since the first time you came into IRC, you had a field day making fun of everyone that crossed your path. Now that it isn't so fun maybe you see our side of things? Do you think I enjoy being called names by you. Do you think Dub enjoys having to justify himself and his integrity to some screaming idiot? Do you think he likes being called 'pooptaigh' or 'broke messiah'? No he doesn't. I could go on and on, but as you all will see I will be clearly wasting my time. Yes, I will admit, her insults seem petty and clean. But to be honest, you put that together with the constant threats, the bitching, the moaning, and the constant whine of someone who couldn't hold some player's boots... adds up pretty quickly. We as a community are sick of your private insults/public innocence game. And we have spoken. We are not entitled to anything. In fact, my behavior has been deplorable here as of late. I blame you. But if it means taking a ban to prove the point of what kind of person you are, so be it. I trust John will make the right decision either way. I DO have respect for John, because HE has seen you in action, and he KNOWS what kind of person you have been. This situation boils down to what you find to be the truth. Wendy has a hard on for me because of what other people tell her. She was never involved in the war on GR, yet i could probably go back and post 20 different forum posts from Wendy commenting on it, and me in particular. To make it uber clear to you, BTW...I was never voted out of AF. I was sold out by John L. But if you wish to keep saying that, I guess I can point to your less than favorable fighting skills, as attested to by LDI. You're getting your ass kicked on a daily basis, yet you sit here like a delusional person telling everyone you're winning. Putting your real assets in WP and fighting with c3's is the cowards way out. And you know this. Yet you sit back and call LDI cowards for selling off assets to fight you the same way you were. Look, no matter how you cut it, you're acting like an idiot. You're the only one that doesn't see it. Another thing I just thought of. Did you not just this morning threaten the world of Kebir Blue with an invasion? If you don't remember, I will refresh your memory here: "Honestly ameche is retarded, though we all know that i have nothing to do with this game. I have stated when i come to KB it will be to kick you in the arse on the way out the door. I just may join in this war game, i say we all have a war game, and if anyone interferes, then we defend the war game at all cost. Ameche your paranoid delusions are getting the best of you. These people want to play a war game amongst themselves. You have a country nearby . . .So what. Nobody is out to get you except me. LMAO" Do you actually expect to be making threats all over and not be confronted about it? Maybe a response from Parsifal, a well known Kebirian, may tell you what you need to know to answer that question: "i think i have to agree with Capone on this one. as a member of the ruling Senate of The Protectorate, i only speak for myself but i think that the consensus is that our 50+ countries in the main fed and 5 sub feds located throughout KB, want to keep KB a peaceful world. it would be wise to find another world that is more tolerant of the war game. KB, even though it is not void of conflict, focuses on the economic and diplomatic game." Look. I'm going to make this the last time I offer you this. You will: A: Leave me alone. B: Leave anyone you have ever insulted ALONE. With the exception of any you may be warring with. C: Stay off KB. I will: A: Never speak to you again. B: Not return to LU. (This is easier than it sounds. I hate LU.) I have tried twice already in your existence in SimCountry to help you out when you needed it. You deny it, but it happened. This is the third time I am attempting. If I were you, I would seriously consider this. You know what they say about three strikes.
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| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 10:06 pm I'm Out? Sure retire the side. I love baseball and the fact that there are nine innings to every game. This is only the bottom of the first.
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| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 10:07 pm 12 hours went quickly.
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| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 10:08 pm LOL I haven't started yet
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| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 10:12 pm I would like it if you could define "in game actions" to me. To me, in game actions do not include written language such as: - "Tom Baker you can kiss my ***" Elaborated: ***** = moran = moron. Hint or suggestion towards direct insult doesn't mask intention. The mere observation that the sentence could not be rewritten without the insult, whether implicit or explicit is bad. - Poopthaigh, Broke Messiah Or to start generalizing the thing: - Sensationalist messages. In game actions would seem to have a lot more... action than talking. But that's only my interpretation. I did not precesily say I was going to ban you, but to clarify I will sharpen my attitude towards you and others in two weeks. What exactly I will do or begin depends on how this "collective behaviour" will evolve. This isn't an ultimatum, this is a warning and it's particulary directed at you, simply because of chance. And also, because you you are the one beating the sticks. Do you beleive what is happening now would continue if you were more complecent? Gone? Silent? You may see it has a way resolve a problem from its root. But you are correct, you shouldn't be the only warned. But like I said, you were warned because of chance - when the chance arrives, others will be warned - and one must begin somewhere.
This sort of reasoning of the past justifies the present and if he can, I can too is false. None cannot be bounded by the mistakes of the pasts to correct the present. Justice is independent of what others do. If I kill someone, would that mean everyone can? Regarding IRC, I do not recall banning you or Ameche. I do remember kicking you because of nick stealing. However, I do recall setting the channel +m once, effectively stopping most of the members from speaking. After that, X became uncooperative. But I preferred to +m instead of +b to avoid... this. To avoid hurting someone emotionally and point fingers.
Right, right... But, again: This sort of reasoning of the past justifies the present and if he can, I can too is false. None cannot be bounded by the mistakes of the pasts to correct the present. Justice is independent of what others do. If I kill someone, would that mean everyone can? And indirectly or not, you are the cause. Things weren't not even this bad before you began. If it feels of any confort to you, mission accomplished. You lure them in when: 1. https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/2/11200.html&lm=1229617977 2. https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/2/11576.html&lm=1229791383 3. https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/2/11200.html&lm=1229617977 4. https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/2/10743.html&lm=1224823864 Care to state the purpose of those threads and justify when you don't run the risk of involving a new member into this.
I wish to know what are my standards and what makes them double. If you think others see you as the source of all evil... why is that? By the way, if you really want to know what makes you and Hezekiah alike is the inability of understanding futility.
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| Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 10:52 pm So I will take that as a final rejection of peace? Ok, suit yourself.
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 06:48 pm I may regret this, but...
That's a overly simplistic statement. Sure Wendy seeks out conflict, but maybe she wouldn't if she wasn't contently provoked and her behavior consistently reinforced.
When the chance arrives? That implies that Wendy is the only one engaging in inappropriate posts and chat at the moment. Really? Really? Join Us! (Kebir Blue)
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 07:11 pm REALLY KEVIN...REALLY? All I have to say is she starts her trolling, I fight back. She didn't belong in that thread to begin with, and she only did it to cause problems. I like you Kevin, think you're an OK guy, but how can you sit there and blame others with what you have seen. All she does is CONSTANTLY troll dude. She makes the conflict, we don't. As far as provacation, you're wrong. You would see if you opened your eyes the way she treats people. With no respect and utter disdain. All apologies, but you're way off base.
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 07:16 pm Were all goof balls, right Kev? This is probably true....lol. Buts its fun! You still have fun in this game correct?
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 07:53 pm Thx Kevin . . but let me not place another rift in another fed by having you guys politely disagree. Fact is I am having fun, I had no idea that people would start cryin like this. I like LG alot, and I take his warnings seriously, but i just think hes wrong. I know plenty will be split down the middle, but i prefer to keep it just ME and LDI on game or forum. Ameche is another matter as no matter how many times I provoke him he won't come out of his shell and just fight a bit with me. Barney yes I am having fun, war is war it proly isnt ever going to be that much fun but it is what it is. War.
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 10:57 pm Wendy has a computer, internet access and fingers; and, as far as I'm aware, is capable of complex speech. She can speak for herself. If you believe I'm on the wrong, Wendy, correct me. I trust it will be a difficult endeavour.
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 02:49 am "To control one's self is to control one's life." We should all take a hint and see where self-control can take us. :-)
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