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Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 03:09 am  I need some assitince getting the GM to let all presidents of White Giant to sign a Global Economic Stimulas Package. GESP will help countries pay off their debt in little steps. For example, you owe $600B. GESP will let u pay $100B within the time the loan is due. Please we need to take a stand before we all go bankrupt.
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| Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 07:55 pm iam ready for that ,its really hard times for our enterprises,and we need some cash flow assistance,plzz elaborate what to do abid(worldcorpholdings.
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| Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 09:02 pm Well, I'm talking to the GM right now about it.
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| Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 10:03 pm whatever prevents the so called destruction of the world... no need for world domination.....which is probably impossible no matter what
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| Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 10:51 pm Probably
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 12:05 am No definitely
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 12:28 am Good idea.
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 01:09 am I am trying to make my empire independent of the world market so that I can thrive, regardless of the state of the global economy. Whenever I build new corporations, I choose the type of corporation based on the supplies my other corporations (and my country/empire) needs. You will find very few CEO corps in my empire, but many state corps (especially in my leader country because my slave country is still damaged from my war with it). I am doing this for a few reasons: 1. As stated above, even if the whole world economy went to hell in a handbasket, I would have my own little oasis of prosperity. 2. My whole empire is an economic experiment. I am testing out a theoretical economic system that I invented, called "National Proletarianism". My empire is the result of sort of a "test run" for National Proletarianism. (National Proletarianism looks really good on paper, but it has yet to prove itself in practice or simulation). Actually, if you want to learn more about my theories, you can message either my account or my country, "Land of the Worker". Anywho...if my system's design remains stable and I accomplish my goal, I would be happy to help others copy me and set up their own National Proletarian country or empire. If my system turns into a total disaster, then everybody else will learn the easy way not to do what I did. So that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 01:37 am SAME..
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 01:54 am Smart. Is it working so far?
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 02:09 am It works very well in my leader country. My leader country is 100% independent of the market for mining products. Currently, I am working on being self-sufficient for industrial products and utilities. My slave country is still recovering from the war, so only time will tell whether my slave country succeeds or fails.
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 02:45 am Well, I guess I'll try it
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 03:48 am That is a fascinating idea our common market is trying to become an economic powerhouse totally devoted to self sustainability but maybe ill try it with a slave sometime....it wouldn't work in real life because some places are better suited to produce certain things then others so a global economy is more lucrative but maybe if things get really bad into the future people will have to have more localized economies though they will most likely still just be independent food wise and still trade with neighboring soveriegnties for other industrial goods its more effiecient if people specialize at something and trade then producing everything they need but perhaps the latter is a wiser choice the future will tell
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 03:55 am The rate the game is going every country will have to fend for themselves
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 04:04 am yeah....well... better get cracking, im starting to do what Marshals doing...and we can still work together
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 04:09 am I'm waiting untill my economy picks up
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 04:53 am Also you have to make sure to supply all your population not just your corps its a very difficult task you are doing it would be easier if you joined a common market with an enterprise who could build anywhere ans supply you with goods from other countries indirectly through a common market or atleqst make one with your two countries so they can work togethor you need lots of workers to achieve self sustainability
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 05:11 am hmm The Self Sustainability Common Market? lol
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 04:57 pm Common markets are only good for points and ranking. Other than that, they accomplish nothing. I enter all my supply contracts manually.
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 06:04 pm im all for that stimulus package! fat chance that itll happenn but still
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 10:09 pm yeah.... this is a great idea, but what happens if every country on white giant, and others follow suit? wouldn't this system backfire? i mean, i could be wrong and it could just make war unnecessary or...something idk...but time is certain to tell....
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| Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 11:38 pm Those who want to follow suit can do so. It is totally voluntary; I am only setting up my country like this so that I can test out my theory of economics. Lol I had no intention of starting this whole worldwide movement...for example, you learned about the concept behind it, and you decided (on your own) that it was a good idea, so you are beginning to adopt my system. Honestly I have no idea whether my theoretical economic system will succeed or fail, so you understand that we are both taking a risk. I don't believe that many players are interested in trusting their entire economy to a theoretical system that still has yet to prove itself.
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:03 am yes,i am but it might just work, and if not...
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:10 am Well, it looks good on paper. It's looking good in practice so far, but only time will tell whether it will succeed in the long run.
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:42 am yeah...im beginning to expand mine....but....we should discus fail-safes...in messages perhaps
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:48 am I am still stuck in the economic quagmire that my slave country has caused me.
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:55 am What I should have done was waited until I had finished setting everything up before going to war. Because there is no demand for weapons on the market, I ended up having to destroy 4T SC$ worth of weapons and ammunition that was left over from the war.
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 01:20 am tough break
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 02:30 am You need to read the updates, because of the changes to the war machines the GM was randomly buying up the surplus weapons...
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 02:32 am one too late then oh well
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 02:49 am Oops. Oh well.
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 03:00 am Who gives? Lol
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 03:19 am huh?
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 03:21 am I just got 2 million population for my slave country, so I think I am gonna pull through.
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 03:52 am yes....URA!!!!!!! URA!!! URAH URAH ...idk what else is there?
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 04:42 am Ura! LOL
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 05:35 am COMMUNISTS
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 06:44 pm Correction, National Proletarians! See here: http://international-proletariat.webs.com//pdai-mani-e5.pdf
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 08:23 pm I ment, who gives about the updates.
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| Friday, April 20, 2012 - 10:06 pm not a communist... also Urah was supposed to be the us way or...non russian way? im not sure But it seems that a in some war games seems to be russian... OOHRAH is like..idk American? it is spelled differently in subtitles? for some unexplained reason well yeah...makes no sense OOH-RAH!!!!!
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| Monday, April 23, 2012 - 03:53 pm No. I have footage of Soviet parades where the Red Army says, "Ura!"
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| Monday, April 23, 2012 - 09:12 pm Lol u would
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| Monday, April 23, 2012 - 10:49 pm lol and Ohh-RAH1
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| Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 12:10 am OHH-RAHH
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| Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 04:15 pm Lol Ura!
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| Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 09:01 pm Lol
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| Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 01:56 am Alright,let's get your economy fixed, Xbox.
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| Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 03:05 am *time to duel*
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| Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 03:12 am Lol
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| Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 11:54 pm Great Stocks to Buy: Niles Gas Rayleigh Military Supplies
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| Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 12:50 am That's random...
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| Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 02:52 am or a sales opportunity....you find people trying to sell stuff, advertising their bodies for a certain product so someones gonna try to sell stuff...lol \how much?
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| Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 03:53 pm He is advertising for the stock market. Once my countries are self-sufficient, I will completely sever their connections to the stock market. I will dump my investment funds to complete isolation, and nationalize all of my public corporations.
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| Friday, April 27, 2012 - 02:25 am your country trades about 30 to 40 percent on the local market which means your still importing about 60 percent of your goods and your employment index is at 90 percent which means with the 10% you have left you have to double the ammount traded on your local market and then some....im trading 50 percent on my country by just building good corps and updating contracts once in a while automatically
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| Friday, April 27, 2012 - 06:32 pm Yes Rick, but that's my country itself. Most of my corporations, on the other hand, get 80% of their supplies on the local market.
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| Friday, April 27, 2012 - 10:30 pm it includes corps trading between eachother on the local trade ammount
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| Saturday, April 28, 2012 - 05:37 am I've got a common market set up now for my federation, so that should help.
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| Saturday, April 28, 2012 - 06:43 pm Would you be interested in buying my following stock? Rayleigh Military Supplies Bakeree Services Papara Furniture Tacro Cattle Feed Herten Wood Niles Gas
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| Saturday, April 28, 2012 - 11:13 pm No. I am sorry, but I do not believe in the stock market.
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| Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 12:19 pm another stock market atheist. 
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| Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 08:06 pm Our Union of National Proletarian States does not care about such things as the stock market. The stock market is the business of the capitalists; we leave such petty matters to them.
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| Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 09:06 pm Lol so you do believe in it
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| Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 09:24 pm We know of its existence, but it means nothing to us. I don't have a single dollar invested in the stock market.
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| Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 10:01 pm Correction: Soon, I will not have a single dollar invested. I am dumping my entire investment fund and selling all shares my country owns.
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| Wednesday, May 9, 2012 - 09:12 pm Sounds similar to the Continental System used by Napoleon to break economic ties with the British Empire. While entering contracts manually, do you give common market members first opportunity to accept those contracts? With a little work, all your product requirements could be met, with members building the necessary companies (for road maintenance, for example) to supply all other members. While not hitting the profits the free market allows, not suffering the vagaries is intriguing. As long as relative hardships are shared - hmmmm....
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| Wednesday, May 9, 2012 - 10:54 pm Actually, we did run into an emergency once. Common markets are not as profitable because the prices of products on common markets are not affected by the quality of the products. As a result, the corps get the same amount of money, for a higher quality product (thus, a product that is more expensive to produce). What happens over time is that the cost of production will increase until it is greater than the money you make by selling it, and the corporations start losing money across the board. We implemented a very simple solution; we just stopped upgrading, and we are letting the upgrades wear off. The quality (and therefore, the cost of production) is decreasing, allowing our corps to begin profiting again from the common market.
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| Thursday, May 10, 2012 - 04:22 am I was under the impression that common markets sold goods for a higher price and therefore it was good to export but not to import is that true your take on it seems the oppiosite
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| Thursday, May 10, 2012 - 08:19 pm It's the opposite. I worked out all of the math, myself. It matched up.
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| Friday, May 11, 2012 - 03:16 pm Well I always wanted my country to be self sufficient and I feel i'm getting there step by step, producing almost all the products what my country consumes but the other problem is, is that my corps are buying products from the world market which I still need to work on, but not as much as you think though as i've set most of my corps at between 10 and 50% capacity as those corps don't need to produce that many goods for my country which in turn means my corps won't need to buy as much raw materials and products from the world market. Have a look at my country on LU 'The Kingdom of Pirates' Marshal and see what you think of it.
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| Friday, May 11, 2012 - 10:54 pm maybe you'd be interested in our fed?
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| Saturday, May 12, 2012 - 02:29 am I probularly would be but since i'm on Little upsilon I can't, unless theres another fed there that works closely with yours.
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| Saturday, May 12, 2012 - 03:12 am idk....ha someone in fed starts another account on Little Upsilon Lol idk....i bet there would be something you could ha maybe marshal Could allow you to be a Sector of our federation thats on Little upsilon... You would be connected to us and be a part of federation And possibly be part of common market still? you gotta talk to marshal maybe we could work something out
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| Saturday, May 12, 2012 - 07:06 pm Yeah, that would work. You could start a version of our fed on LU.
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| Sunday, May 13, 2012 - 12:19 am Regarding the Common Market, its not that corps don't sell at a higher price for higher quality products, but that because products are supplied at a higher quality and therefore a higher price, and therefore the profit-margins are dragged down. If you want a sustainable common market, you need to create products of a lower quality.
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| Monday, May 28, 2012 - 05:58 pm Marshall, back to what you were saying about self-sufficiency. Your idea can and will work, however like others have mentioned, you need a lot of people. The countries I have seen that have had success with what you are saying generally have 45-50 million people. I, personally, have done this before, If I remember correctly, I had roughly 45 million people with about 60 corps providing my country with what it needed. However, once you setup your country, for example one of my previous countries that I mentioned above, you don't usually make above 10B in profit each month leaving you with little room for expansion of infrastructure or funding for a war.
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| Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 05:47 am oh that's a shame then I'm pretty sure Marshall is at about war level 3 now and my fascist commi hating armies are prepped and ready
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| Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 01:00 am Not unless someone hits them first. They have an isolation policy that prohibits them from having interactions with what they deem outsiders. Its why I left. Decent people just not my kinda game play is all.
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