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Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 10:44 pm  Several Brutal Thugs, EC, Broken Ambition, Orbiter, have decided to attack SNAPP. Their goal, to raid resources, and more-so, to ensure that NO peacefull Econ fed will remain on WG. Many of these raiders attacked WGC just recently, and now they seek to destory SNAPP in like manner. Adding to this attack is the coward-bully Brutus. Brutus could have at any time fought me 1 v 1 and I would have accepted the fight. Instead, he waits until several other stronger players attack to join in. Any claim he has that his is personal is a lie. I'd happily fight him 1 v 1 if he wants to do it like that and call his friends off. He is a wuss, afraid for a fair fight, and only attacks when he thinks it is safe. Given that this war is for the future of WG, and the right of ANY federation to live in peace, SNAPP is happy to fight the war. Hopefully, it will teach a lesson to the war mongers. We also invite other federations and players to join us in this fight. If all peacefully players unite, we can defeat these bullies.
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| Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 11:18 pm Quit bitching. Suck it up and fight. It's players like this which have made the game so boring to play. "Wah, economy, wah, wah, my assets".
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 01:32 am Hmmm...
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 02:15 am Your fed is not under attack...only you Chryso, and to say that your empire is "The Future" of WG is pretty bold. Also...ATTENTION all members of SNAPP...you are not under attack...only your commander in chief Chrysostom. No attacks will be made on any other members of the SNAPP fed unless we are attacked first. You will have to make that choice, choose wisely. For someone that ran their mouth enough to get kicked out of his old fed (WGC), and then kept score of the first so called "World War on WG"...seems like maybe you should now back up all the chatter and defend yourself. As fed leader of SNAPP, it would be very responsible of you to ask your fellow SNAPP members to wisely refrain from getting involved in this, as it ABSOLUTELY is in their best interest.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 02:45 am Will the others attacking me please confirm if that is correct? Namely, if they agree to only attack me if no one else attacks them? EC, my new name for you is Ex-Christian, since you claim to be one, but do not play like one. Dante says there is a special place in Hell for traitors....and you, sir, are exactly that, a traitor. This is a game, don't take this to be my saying your going to Hell; as I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that from how you play, no one would believe you to be a Christian. You are one of those selfish raiders who have no honor and no loyalty who sells out his friends and former allies for a quick buck. You have no honor. There is a difference between someone who complains too much, and someone who is a turncoat, a traitor, and preys on taking what others have built. So, dear Ex-Christian, I wish you the best, and hopefully your temporarily allies for today will confirm what you have said. Namely, that if no one else fights, you will only attack me. Though, I have no doubt they too may one day face being raided by you. It is pathetic that when you were in WGC so complained that when I was deputy minister of internal affairs that I made it too hard for you to raid inactive WGC member (because I wanted to first make sure they were inactive). So you ran for minister of internal affairs. Then, you refused as minister to follow the rules. The High Council told you that you can't just raid inactives, but need to follow the rules. Then you left. You left because WGC wouldn't let you raid people as easily as you liked. Now I hope you are happy, attacking and raiding at will. Is there nothing built by another's hands that you do not lust after? Do you hold any morals or values beyond taking what you want? In your case, the answer appears to be no. You are truely deserving of your name, the Ex-Christian, as your own actions and play bear whitness to your disgusting self and your lack of virtue.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 04:06 am wow, ummm anyways, how's this for a statement i would absolutely love to attack any snapp member that tries to assist chryso, any snapp member that assists chryso, will gain my respect, but may lose their empire in the process. but that aside, i would love to see snapp defend themselves, i'm not going to bind myself by saying i wont attack snapp members, but i did not, nor, do not, have any plans to attack snapp members.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 06:43 am "I'm not going to bind myself by saying I wont attack SNAP members" The dead opposit of what ExChristian said, and therefore I believe you. Namely, that you bullies just only want to fight one person at a time. Then, you'll attack someone else. This attack also comes after I was told twice that The Mob was not going to attack SNAPP, and only took countries in Crane York to "train." When WGC was attacked, the Econ players were told they would not be attacked. Many were. Those left to live are being used as a threat. Read the boards....do they not say for WGC to shut up or be attacked. Is that your plan for SNAPP? For everyone to shut up or be attacked? Oh, wait, you've not even agreed not to attack them... In your choice of how to play the game, you've lost my respect. I could not care less who you "respect" and think may players would consider it an insult to have your respect. A person can tell alot about someone's friends. The Mob have shown to have no honor in their choice of members. To accept ExChristian as a member of your federation is to have no honor. Likewise, for Brutus to have decried the attacks against WGC, but to then participate in these attacks is a sign of his lack of honor also. At any point he could have found me 1 v 1; but he lacks the guts. He lacks the man-hood for such a fight. Instead he needs to hide behind others, like the coward that he is. For a long time I was worried that when I was in WGC that I was unfriendly to EC and Brutus. I was no longer worried about EC after he turncoated and attacked WGC. I now am no longer worried about Brutus. Both have showed themselves to be without honor. When Brutus was mad at Brian K, he wanted to fight 1 v 1. Or so he said. He never did. Now he pretends to be mad at me, but mad without honor. In the past he thought 1 v 1 an honorable way to fight. But he knows he would lose against me, so he chickens out. He is a coward and a fraud. No guts to fight like a man. I'm not mad I was declared on. I'm mad that the people declaring act as though they somehow have the moral high ground to attack.... They do not, they are dishonorable scum. They run around afraid to go 1 v 1 or even to be honest. In the case of ExChristian, he left his fed only to plan an asset raid on them after they were only nice to him. In the case of Brutus, he is a chicken and a wimp and a coward. He talks big, but needs to hide behind others; since he is not a real man. I bet when fighting starts, Brutus will be the last to attack (because he is afraid to take casulties). He'll probably wait until a real man does the hard work, and then chip in some. ExChristian -- who like Brutus is hiding some of his countries in War Protection -- doesn't even have the guts to take far away countries, or even some of his C3s out of war protection. What a wuss. He is very scared to fight real fight....in the WGC war game we were in, he quit early whining that he was taking too many loses. Now, like the coward he is, he hides countries in war protection. I wish there was a game feature that let me attack any of his countries now....but alase, ExChristian continues to hide like a baby behind war protection, while attacking me with 4 to 1, with a bunch of suped up C3s.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 06:57 am As you said Chryso...this is a game. Call me whatever you'd like to...I really dont care. Just keep watching your war index drop as you continue to run your mouth. Seems you remember the past pretty well...so this should be no surprise to you. So, either keep whining, or defend yourself. PS...I'll be praying for you
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 07:09 am First of all...this has nothing to do with The Mob, as The Mob has been dismantled on WG and LU and only exists on FB. Moving on. Second...maybe I gave you too much credit for your memory...geez, were you even in the same war games? Remember, you were the one hiding under your fedmates defenses with one lousy country,not me. Also, I dont speak for Brutus, but are you serious? The same Brutus who was head of the WGC Rapid Response branch and Minister of Defense? Give me a break. If this is so wrong of an action, call in some of your friends you always talk about.................crickets....thats right, you have none. Defend yourself, Crybaby
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 07:18 am i'm not going to say "i wont attack snapp members," because if i ever do, ever, you'll keep throwing it in my face. my statement was to make it clear that i do not currently have any intentions toward snapp, beyond the current events. if events arise that would make me change that... well, i'm not going to bind myself to something that may not be to my advantage, when you actually have zero leverage i understand your anger, and i hope you enjoy shooting back. and btw the way, this isn't "the mob,"
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 07:23 am The dead opposit of what ExChristian said, and therefore I believe you. Namely, that you bullies just only want to fight one person at a time. Then, you'll attack someone else. I've been saying that for years dude.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 09:25 am ExChristian, you confuse praying FOR someone and preying ON someone. What you are attempting to do is not to help me but to attack me. Your actions in the sneak attack against WGC, show you more like Judas than Jesus. Perhaps your motto WWJD, is really What Would Judas Do? That is how you play. "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" Matthew 5:9...I guess you read this as "blessed are those who attack those who are no threat to them, to take their countries and strip them." Clearly, if you view yourself as some sort of Christian, and I don't see how, it must be the type who think the Bible was written on opposit day. You've hurt already a number of people who helped you out. You recieve kindness from people, and return it with a slap in the face. What you did to WGC shows you to be a Judas. You re-prove your selfishness again with your latest attack. How you can look at yourself in the mirror, I don't know. Clearly, you must be very blind to your own selfishness to continue to act this way. You have no clue how much you hurt people who had helped you greatly, nor how cruel you are to those who were your friends. Your malice is not just in heated words in the moment, but in cold, calculated hate. God Loves; ExChristian, you hate. Your cold, calculated attacks are not just words said in the heat of the moment, they are your plan to try to tear others down to raise yourself up. A Christian raises himself up by raising others up. Not by trying to tear people down, like you do. You should stop going by EC, to claim Christian anywhere in your name is false advertising. ExChristian, Yes, I remember you attacking my supply unit over and over...you never could take out even that one unit. I remember when you attacked an innocent player against the rules when you were in WGC and that player was kicking your butt and you begged the federation to help you. Jo stepped in and saved your butt. Are you planning to beg Jo to step in and plead for you after you get your butt kicked this time? I remember ... Brutus kept saying that someone should help ExChristian...but I don't remember him actually lifting a finger to help you. Let's see if he grew a pair and will actually fight with you this time....or if he'll watch from the sidelines. ExChristian...How does it feel to sit behind war protection? Same question goes to Brutus? Brutus will speak for himself in the battle. If he is the first to attack, he'll show himself to be less of a wimp than I thought. If he waits until someone else to fire, I'll know he is the chicken I thought he was. Let's see if he is hidding in wait until someone else starts it or if he is 1/4 of a man. My money is that he is chicken to fight and will wait back and see how things go. I already see how he is attacking with far less strength and putting so much less into it than anyone else. Brutus - You are the ultimate wimp in this game. No person I've met in Sim Country is as chicken as you. Afraid to fight like a man, so you hide behind The Mob. You are to Courage what ExChristian is to loyalty. Namely, lacking. By The Way, it Is The Mob. All the members are not fighting as some probably actually expected a good fight with WGC. Those fighting now are the ones out to raid. I am not angry with Broken Ambition or with Orbiter. I believe, the only insult I've given them is that they are allied with ExChristian. I've been angry with ExChristian ever since he attack WGC, as I believe that was disshonorable. As to Brutus, I believe he is a wimp because he could have fought one v one at any time. Instead, he now fights with others allied to him, using surprise. For a long time he was mad at Brian K and his view was a 1 on 1 fight was honorable and complained that brian K was hiding behind his fed, and he'd be happy to fight him 1 v 1. Now, Brutus shows those just words. He shows himself a chicken. He is not man enough to fight 1 v 1. he has no honor. No courage. He is a true wus. I am angry that Brutus turned out to be such a wimp. I had thought him a man of honor until he just now proved otherwise. He allied himself with The Mob, and with ExChristian. Brutus clearly shows HIS SUPPORT of ExChristian's attack on WGC by allying himself with ExChristian now. Brutus has joined with The Mob to attack in Mob Style; Brutus earlier said that was wrong. Brutus is a one who goes against his words of earlier, and fights not with honor or principle. Instead he allies with the turncoat ExChristian to raid from a player who lived in peace with him...this because he lacks the guts to fight 1 on 1, and instead allies with The Mob and the turncoat. I am angry and disappointed to see how far he has fallen. I'm not angry that I am the one he attacked. I'm angry that he allied with ExChristian and The Mob and started playing like The Mob, because he either never had honor or has sold it out. I hope Brutus does not pretend to still have honor or dignity after he has allied himself with ExChristian.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 10:41 am First of all, both both Ravi and Chrysostom, stop bringing up other players or the Mob or about how you have been saying whatever BS for years. There is no Mob on WG, the Mob only exists on FB, so no one 'allied with...The Mob' and if you haven't figured it out yet, the WORST way you can deal with any current or former Mob member is by talking sh*t or questioning their morality or character. I don't know what this issue is but if you would like me to attempt a war free resolution then contact me, I'll hear you out and see where it goes, but cut the BS about connecting two issues that are unrelated.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 12:15 pm WGC kicked you out Cyybaby, then declared war on you. You seem to forget that part. Keep spinning your story Crybaby...it gets better and better. Ive been waiting on this crying to happen for over a year now...wah, wah, wah...music to my ears. Keep it up. Reverend EC
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 04:57 pm Whiteboy, I am a grown up intelligent individual. I will speak when I feel it is necessary. I know you like to attack people who don't agree with you but I will not be bossed around like a child. You should take care not to offend so many people. I have my own mind and will use it. I know you can blow me up and take my country bla bla, but I will not be intimidated by a cowardly pack rat such as yourself. Your kind does seek out weak links and attacks them until you have nothing left and then go on to attack someone else. RIP Ravi
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 05:51 pm No shit? War, in a game with a war engine? The shock... The horror!
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 05:55 pm Ravi - You're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about. Seeking out weak links? Really, so attacking the best members of the largest federation in the game is attacking 'weak links'? Give me a break. You, just as so many others choose to play the victim instead of learning how to play the game. Just like telling me 'you should take care not to offend so many people' which is a threat, then following it up with playing the victim 'I know you can blow me up'. Make more sense please. You may be grown up and intelligent but you aren't acting like it, my intent in even posting in this thread was to figure out the situation and see if it could be resolved, after reading your BS and the rest of the BS in here, I think I know what the situation is. So enjoy whatever comes to you since you chose to be an ass instead of consider that you were wrong.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 05:55 pm Whiteboy, Thanks for your offer, but I have no interest in peace with EC or Brutus. I have no reason to think that Orbiter or BrokenAmbition have any interest in peace with me. So peace is out of the question. Whiteboy, with all respect, A person needs to take responsibility for his allies. This attack falls under the name of The Mob. Orbiter and EC (who are posting on this page and claiming not to be in The Mob) are in the Mob. They posted often in the first World War thread. BrokenAmbition and Brutus have not claimed not to be part of The Mob on this thread. ExChristian - The best you can do is to say I complain too much and call me a crybaby. Meanwhile, you cannot even dispute that you are a Judas. You cannot despute that you are scum. Your missdeads are more than words, they are betrayal. You're selfishness is uncontestable, as is your greed and your hate. You don't even try to defend yourself or your actions. YOU'VE BEEN WAITING OVER A YEAR TO ATTACK ME....YET WELL UNDER A YEAR AGO WE WERE ALLIED TOGETHER IN THE SAME FEDERATION. YOU PLAN AND WAIT TO ATTACK YOUR OWN FEDERATION ALLIES. YOU HAVE ADMITTED THAT YOU ARE JUST THAT, A JUDAS. ExChristian, you have stated yourself your plans to attack your allies while in a federation with them. You do not deny this. For more than 6 months you were "allied" with me, while planning to attack me. This explains why you were completely and consistantly destructive before you left WGC. You were intent on sabatoge. Your own words prove that you lack honor. Likewise, anyone who allies with EC lacks honor. It is not honorable to ally with someone who acts as exChristian does. To pretend to be allies with people, and only seek their destruction. I lump Brutus in with ExChristian. It shows his charector that he has allied himself with the person who destoryed his former federation. It is not about federations, but people. Many people who were friends with ExChristian were attacked. They were friends with Brutus too; a shame...et to brutus ... are you also going to betray your friends by joining forces with the person who destoryed their countries....the answer of YES shows the lack of honor in both these thugs.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 06:33 pm Will you insult anyone who does not agree with you. I don't appreciate being called an idiot. I generally shy away from posting because you immediately go on the attack and insult people. I suppose your next course of action will be to declare on me for sharing my thoughts. It is clear that you have a serious social handicap. People should not be subject to agree with everything you have to say. I was not aware that agreeing with everything you have to say is "Intelligent" You are acting like a spoiled little biotch. I am not playing a victim, just calling things how I see it. Idiot would accurately describe you more than myself.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:11 pm If you agree with everything I say it makes you not only intelligent, but extremely good-looking? Anyone agree?
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:11 pm And I quote: ExChristian - The best you can do is to say I complain too much and call me a crybaby. Meanwhile, you cannot even dispute that you are a Judas. You cannot despute that you are scum. Your missdeads are more than words, they are betrayal. You're selfishness is uncontestable, as is your greed and your hate. You don't even try to defend yourself or your actions. I assume this means I'm off your Christmas card list, huh Chryso? It wasn't a secret why me and Brutus left WGC...something we voiced many times. And yes, I wanted to dec you even then. Tick tock tick tock....maybe you should spend more time getting ready to fight and less time running your mouth. After all, they are just C3's as you said yourself. Shouldn't be a problem for you to take em all out quickly.
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| Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:19 pm EC's memories of being in WGC have consistently been faulty, as have his assumptions about our federation after he left. He is in no position to speak for WGC and his statements are as wrong as his sense of loyalty to those who once saved his empire from annihilation. For the record, WGC did not 'kick Chrysostom out'. Chrysostom left voluntarily after a disagreement with another member. There was subsequently a declaration of war which was resolved diplomatically without any shots being fired. Also for the record, there are currently three federations on WG named 'the Mob', containing countries owned by EC, Serpent, Orbiter, Keto and Broken Ambitions. Whiteboy is not in any of those federations, or associated federations, and has declared that he is no longer in the mob. I believe him to be a man of his word and so I struggle to understand why he is still posting on their behalf. It's a shame that the remaining members of the mob continue to bully others and exploit the game to this extent, because the GMs are being forced to make changes that may not have been necessary if they had exercised more restraint. In trying to 'promote the war game' they have actually driven at least seven veteran players away from SimCountry and many others into war protection, which naturally results in fewer wars. The mob and its associated federations are the most powerful and aggressive players in the game. Perhaps where they come from, that is to be admired. However, the natural result of their playing style will be that they are the only veteran players left ... very big fish in a pond full of newbs who have not yet learned that, unless you pander to the egos of the all-powerful big boys, you might as well leave now and not pay your registration fee. As always, this is ultimately a disagreement between what you can do, and what you should do ... in virtual reality as in life. Hugs and respect Jo
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:00 am SFO Southern Branch so i guess because their is an SFO branch, that means they are back in town? leave it alone already. jeese. wow, jo, give it a rest, you don't really have any leverage over this, unless you are going to open a dec? i doubt that
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:21 am Unlike you and your friends, Orbiter, I know when to keep quiet, and it's not when I am being threatened for making factual statements and expressing a reasonable and valid opinion. It seems that, not only do you want to own the game, you also want to own the forum. And Laguna wonders why very few people (other than members of the mob) post any more ...
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:27 am Jo - Thank you. ExChristian - It is well known that I'm imperfect and often say things I latter regret. That is something I need to work on. That, however, is alotogether uncomparibly different from planning to attack someone while in a federation with them. For a year you planned to attack me, most of that time while allied with me. Did you do the same with WGC? Who else is on your hit list? Are your current allies there too? Do you plan to attack Brutus next? Or is Orbiter your next target? Maybe it is BrokenAmbitions? You are allied with them. So far, you've attacked most of the people you've been allied to. ExChristian, thanks for the advice. My advice to you is that you should --- if your goal is to hurt me --- take a moment and listen to what I'm going to say. I'm not hurt by fighting you, nor even if I lose 9 countries. Do you know why? Because when I play, I play with honor and dignity. I don't attack the innocent, nor plan war against my allies. No matter what you say or win or lose, you do so with dishonor. No matter what ill-gotten wins you have, your soul loses. You've tradded away yourself, to try to gain a few countries in a game. You do not play this game, you are a slave to it. You lack the morals, the values, and the charector to play like a man. You do not play with honor, rather you play dirty, dishonest, and without respect. Win or lose, those who play fair, play with honor. Those who plan to sneak attack their allies, play with dishonor. No win or loss changes that. No matter who you do, you are below those folks in WGC who you victimized, and below everyone who you planned to attack while you were allied to. Your word is meaninless; your alliance untrustable, and you are without honor. You traided yourself, your word, your honor, and your dignity for some loot. One day, maybe it will be today, your armies will fail you and you will be looted. You then will have traded your honor for nothing. Do you not see how stupid that is? Yet that is your fate. More-than-likely, it will happen one day when RL causes you to not log in for a while. Your countries will be gone. No one will watch them for you. Your hard work taken. You will log back on with no friends, no honor, and lacking your great wealth. It will be a sad day for you, and is unfortunate that you don't see where you are heading. You trade away something -- your honor -- for nothing, for things that show up on a screen. Open a word document and just type the number of coins you have....that is all you are winning. Just pictures on a screen. Yet for that, you trade way your honor. You are an idiot.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:33 am how ever, you are being irritating, purposefully, then stating you are just expressing your opinion, its passive-aggressive. meant to provoke, with out looking like it. and even a little name dropping... you know that the wording you are using is insulting, and the same things could be expressed less... abrasively. WGC famous forum policy is to avoid flame wars, but in the last month, everything you've had to say to a former mob members, has been to jab at us, to insult us, and walk around high and mighty. so if the spokesperson for WGC is jabbing at former mob members... that thread has an interesting conclusion...
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:57 am Orbiter, with all respect, you are already in a war....do you find this one so easy that you need to fight multiple people at once? If not, why make such a threat. We all know you will just attack everyone one at a time....that is why ... you will be stopped this time, and your reign of terror ended. it was easy against WGC, but this war will not be over so fast.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:13 am you could be right chryso,
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:15 am Check my posts, Orbiter. Every time I have got involved it has been in response to one of your members saying something inaccurate about WGC and the tone of my posts speak for themselves. It is supremely arrogant of you to assume that you can post lies and misinformation about other players without them challenging you. I can count almost twenty forum posts across various threads from your members to every one of mine, so please don't accuse me of flaming. That's a poor argument. As for the 'conclusion' ... more threats? I expected nothing less. But you were triumphant in the war. You beat-up WGC good and proper and you are so powerful that you persuaded quite a few players that this wasn't the game for them. Isn't that enough? Don't you feel like you have won yet?
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:31 am well, jo, you are lying, perhaps you have "corrected," us. how ever, i can think of one instance that all that was said, was WGC wasn't involved, which you got up and said your self, followed by a few more words... in fact, i believe their where times that you had to prove us wrong, like when we were thinking IM was an econ player, based on what he said, but you proved us wrong, and pointed out he was a military player. good to know that you know more of what IM is doing than he does, i'm sure WGC really needs that kind of guidance and take it as will, you are always going to act like you run the joint, and expect your WGC war dogs to do your fighting. but you might want to pick your battles more carefully
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 04:33 am Corrected (W)ell, (J)o, you are lying, perhaps you have "corrected," us. (H)ow ever, (I) can think of one instance that all that was said, was WGC wasn't involved, which you got up and said (yourself), followed by a few more words... (I)n fact, (I) believe (there) (were) times that you had to prove us wrong, like when we were thinking IM was an econ player, based on what he said, but you proved us wrong, and pointed out he was a military player. (G)ood to know that you know more of what IM is doing than he does, (I)'m sure WGC really needs that kind of guidance and take it as will, you are always going to act like you run the joint, and expect your WGC war dogs to do your fighting. (B)ut you might want to pick your battles more carefully(.) Didn't even bother with the run on sentence's and grammar........
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 04:55 am Orbiter, I take offense at you saying Jo is lying, and therefore I declare war on you. So far, I've mainly be playing with EC. I took down his ints in a country or two, and I believe you guys have done the same in Charity...maybe more countries by now... I should get back to the fight. opps, almost forgot to insult ExChristian. ExChristian is fighting like a wimp so far. All he's risked in the fight (offensivily) are some special forces units. Is ExChristian's job to paint while the rest of you (except Brutus, who has done nothing) fight?... If so, looks like he got the easy job....or maybe he is to busy to actually attack as he is plotting how he will attack his current allies in a year from now. bottom line: ExChristian isn't cool.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:14 am lol, chryso, we are already at war, numb nuts
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:18 am I really hope that The Mob has better to offer than what they've been doing so far. I've not lost a single country, and your attacks are going nowhere. Perhaps EO or Whiteboy was the brains of the opperation, and the remaining folks are all idiots. I mean, give me a break. I was expecting these hardened fighters....instead EC is playing like he used to...namely doing nothing of substance. Brutus hasn't started yet (as expected...wonder if he ever will), and Orbiter is chatting on the forum more than fighting....I've not noticed what, if anything BrokenAmbitions has done. If this is the best you can do, your days of are numbered.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:21 am Thats how they play, they won't fight a fair fight, they want to gang up on you. They like to 'think' they are distracting you on the forums. If they are posting, most likely they are trying to keep your focus off the war.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:22 am Orbiter, I see EC painting some; not sure if that is war. I see you are skirmishing some, let me know when you actually start going hardcore into the fighting. Maybe Brutus called in sick for the war? I don't actually see him fighting. Do you think he got a note from his mother saying that he would take off a couple days from the fight...you know just until the war is over. I've not been paying attention to brokenambitions....so you'll have to tell me if he is doing anything.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:22 am And yeah, they are all hiding in WP on LU because EO isn't logging in. Lmao. Doo doo heads...
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:24 am Wendy, That explains their strategy of fighting so poorly. I guess they plan to lose alot of units and make little or no progress for several hours to lul me into a sense of security, and then fight..... if only...one could dream. I'm so dissapointed, I was expecting them to be these great fighters. I thought I'd get to learn and see new tactics and really test my skills. well, I'd better check and see if they started fighting for real.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:39 am Everyone - My initial post here was intended to gather information and attempt to see if there was a way around this situation. In addition, I was hoping it wouldn't turn into this with old wounds being rehashed. Chrysostom - This does not fall under the name of the Mob, there are apparently 4 players involved, one who is a longtime Mob member (EC) and another who was a member of the fed specifically for the war on WG and who was never in a Mob branch anywhere else (Orbiter). Brutus and BA were never members of the fed on any world. If you are not interested in peace, then that is your choice. But don't tell me to 'take responsibility for my allies' and then at the same time say you aren't interested in peace. What responsibility did you want me to take if not the responsibility to try to sort out the situation peacefully? Jo - I continue to respond to any talk about the Mob because there does continue to be a Mob federation, it only exists on FB and frankly I'm tired of anytime any one of the former members of the Mob on any world (or even players who were never members, like BA and Brutus) do anything people act like the entire fed is attacking them. I feel the need to clarify, clearly I shouldn't even bother because all I get back is BS but for some reason I do anyway...don't know why I even bother. Tang - I will insult someone who is telling boldface lies intentionally, yeah, for sure. Both in this thread and the other in the general forum you are saying stuff that is just flat BS. When you make completely false statements like 'we attack weak links', give me one example...one, please. I don't care if you agree or disagree with opinions, but just telling complete lies is a problem. I've had many great conversations with those who disagree with me, you chose to disagree by telling lies, that isn't going to lead to a productive conversation. And, you *were* playing the victim, 'oh, pity me, WB isn't going to let me talk and he's going to dec me and take my stuff', stop crying and trying to spread BS. How many different people give me a hard time? How many people disagree with me on whatever issue? A bunch, how many of them have been decd in the past year? Like 2...quit playing the victim.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:48 am .....wow look who is WINDY now... WB, drop protection or shut up. No one cares about anything you are doing, or why you are doing it. All that hot air is heating the place up.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:52 am Whiteboy, I don't see why someone who is winning a war would want peace. ExChristian, Brutus, BrokenAmbitions, and Orbiter are not doing all that well. Hense, why I have time to post. I really think that you and the other Mob members who are not fighting in this war must be the brains of the opperation, since these 4 folks are not fighting well. Frankly, if they keep fighting as they are, I may need to call them The Losers, rather than The Mob. They certainily are not fighting with the same skill or effort was was done in the war against WGC.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:53 am That is becuase EO isn't available to log in for them. LOL! Very different war, and it is 4 vs 1...
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:55 am Perhaps EO or Whiteboy was the brains of the opperation, and the remaining folks are all idiots.-- chrysostom So the rest of the former MOB members were idiots?  my feeling is hurt. Even idiots (me) have feelings! EDIT: just saw your last post
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:56 am lol, he does have a point though serpent
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:58 am So you agree WB does have brains? Ahaaaa.. I knew you highly respected him, and EO as well, seeing as you cant take that single country.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 06:03 am I can take it if I please, but I want all of them not just one, and all those pretty interceptors too. I'm patient and covetous like that. Plus if I took it that would spoil all the fun with the rest of your entire fed in WP.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 06:17 am huh?? what was that... cause this is all I hear.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNqeZVL_ZHE&feature=related BTW I can take all your countries and this is how im gonna do it! All I'm gonna do is dec them with multiple countries and take a few int wings down, and those countries I dec'd you with will be quickly taken from me as I helplessly sit by and watch myself get owned, then Im gonna blab that the reason I didn't take your country was cause I didn't want to.... or at least not now!!! I bet that scenario sounds very familiar don't it? Yeah, right, you are fooling everybody.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 06:55 am C3's..they are quite scary and worthy of yapping aren't they?
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 07:12 am BA, welcome to the party. Looks like it will be a race to see who loses a country first :-) I've got a couple of ExChristian's close to falling you 4 are working on a couple of mine. that said, I remain dissapointed with you lack of attack skill. I think the players who sat out were the smarter and more skilled ones.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 07:23 am FIRST BLOOD W1 has now fallen and is no longer owned by ExChristian!
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 07:27 am Let it be remembered that the first casulty in this war was that of loser division of the Mob. Clearly those member of the Mob with skill are not the ones participating in the war. ExChristian's country W1 fell first. Perhaps he was just too busy painting. I will not entertain offers at this time for ExChristian to surrender. Brutus --- when are you planning to fire a shot? Is the war not going well enough for you to fight? Dear Mob Members, you should consider yourself fortunate that your loser-divisoin player ExChristian lost a country. That is one less country he can attack you with when he backstabs you....should no lose his empire first.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:02 am Enjoy your new countries crybaby. There are a few more left for you to clean up. Real nice ones at that. Nice work Ahmose, didnt see your navy sneak in there, as my bombers were too busy busting up Courage and Charity. You should be proud that you stood up for your fedmate, however delusional he may be. DBoyd, DannyD....you show courage, Im impressed. I wont bother pursuing the decs you sent me. Unless you want to travel that road. Either way is fine by me. You know where to reach me. Chryso, as SNAPP commander in chief, you should reward these faithful fedmates. Maybe give each of them one of the countries we let you keep. We will enjoy our new countries Courage and Charity. Moving on.....
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:05 am Charity and Courage have been taken by The Less-bright member of The Mob (not ExChristian as he is still down 1 country) (nor Brutus, who I'm sure is really dissapointed that he his dog ate his computer so he couldn't play on the big day of the war) However, that was a total waste of money for them, as I scorched earthed it first. I destoryed all offensive weapons, most defensive ones, transfered out all money, etc. Maybe you'll get a little something from the remaining defenses and population strips....but not enough to cover you attacks.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:08 am ExChristian, Oh, so it was you that took them..my bad, I stand corrected. Nice of Orbiter to do the work and you to get the rewards.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:25 am Looks like ExChristian is running out of steam...he knows he is losing...hense why he says: ==== DBoyd, DannyD....you show courage, Im impressed. I wont bother pursuing the decs you sent me. Unless you want to travel that road. Either way is fine by me. You know where to reach me. === in other words, I don't have any fire power to fight you, so please, please to hurt me. and then he says: === Chryso, as SNAPP commander in chief, you should reward these faithful fedmates. Maybe give each of them one of the countries we let you keep. ==== his way of saying he doesn't even have the juice left to finish me off, as he knows he is losing. As for me, ExChristian, I refuse your offer of peace. You are losing and you just refuse to face up to it. You can stop attacking if you have nothing to attack with; but I'm not going to stop.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:33 am Actually, Orbiter took Charity and Brutus took Courage. So ExChristian, you have 0 of my former countries. So, in this war, you remain down 1 country. I'd say you are losing. My congrats to Brutus, it appears he was participating in the fight. Anyway, I reject your offer for peace, and plan to continue attacking you.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:35 am lmao...
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:51 am If you have had enough of the MOB boycott these countries. x2 Epic Chaos x5 Rapture Legion Reaper Albatross Cherokee x4 x3 The Parted Waters Raven x1
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 09:37 am Lol, the b*tch is now calling for boycotts, it's really come full circle. Chrysostom - To be honest, you're starting to piss me off. You aren't fighting the Mob, you are fighting 1 player who was in the Mob and 1 player who was part of the Mob mission on WG and you are fighting against their c3's that were thrown together in a day. I personally did not see any reason for this war once I was actually able to gather information on it (would have helped if people would speak instead of bitch) and wish that a more reasonable resolution could have been reached rather than the BS that is now going on. If you want a fight that will teach you some things Chrysto then let me know, I'll make sure it's provided for you. Otherwise, stop invoking the name of the former fed on WG known as the Mob, I understand that you are pissed off...but stick with being pissed off at the people that actually decd and not a federation which had nothing to do with it. I don't have an issue with you and I like what you are doing building your fed and you've obviously done a pretty good job of defending yourselves, that's awesome. Don't make the mistake of throwing other people under the bus or talking sh*t about a federation that had nothing to do with this situation just because you're pissed off. W - What if I did drop my war protection, what...you'd shoot at my country for 2 weeks and still not be able to take it...you f*ckin suck so bad it's embarrassing...once again, how does it feel to be owned? I'm not going to waste my time with cowards that hide in WP and then call for people who are far better than them to fight, just like you GW Bush, stick with your National Guard while calling a true war vet (Kerry) a coward...you're disgusting.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 09:40 am lol, i'm betting your loving posting that wendy and chryso, their is no reason that a player can not show respect to an adversary. we truly respect the courage of those players of SNAPP, that have responded to your crises. i do sincerely mean that. however, when an adversary responds with insults, and derogatory remarks, it is hard to show that kinda of respect. shrug
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 09:50 am "you f*ckin suck so bad it's embarrassing" Talkin the talk but not walking it... " I'm not going to waste my time with cowards that hide in WP and then call for people who are far better than them to fight" Excuse # 2. You put your foot in your mouth. If I suck so bad, your entire fed wouldn't be in wp. You can say what you want, you guys are pack rats. Takes four of you to declare on chrysostom. I really don't care how many of you dec me, I just want you to drop wp so I can dec your gurly arse. Drop WP. We will fight. Or shit on yourself and make more excuses. How does it feel to be owned you fake mobsters. Big Mouths but you're all in wp... Keep talking I'll wait.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:25 am Yeah, keep talking about things that aren't true and pretending like they are meaningful owned one. First, my entire fed isn't in WP, I'm in IDC on LU and without a fed at all on WG while I finish leveling up before I leave. Second, MY ACTUAL fed is out of WP on FB, feeling great. Third, doesn't take 4 of 'us' to declare on anyone, this war isn't about us, it's about several individual players, but go ahead and ignore that...we know how ignorance has made you so great so far. FIFTH, and most importantly, you are such a f*ckin coward...you don't care how many of us dec you? REALLY...I MEAN F*CKIN REALLY???????????????????????????????????? Then why have you been in perma-wp for a REAL year despite being offered 1 v 1 fights what 50 times? Once again, you are such a piece of sh*t that you aren't even worth my time, if I did drop WP while busy with RL it would be to face an opponent who actually had the courage to do the same, we all know you aren't the one. If anyone else wants to step up, let me know...but I think we already know the answer to that one. Once again, how does it feel to be owned? W record=National Guard with Cheney along to shoot people in the face randomly...ahhhh W....already gave so much comedy and you just keep on giving...who knew there was going to be some b*tch in SC who would act just like you? Much praise to the gods of irony <3
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:45 am Ok WIndy, anymore excuses why your candy arses are in WP? I'm still waiting for you to drop. What is the problem can't fight without EO logging in for you? I see a whole lot of dodging now that eo isn't around. It shouldn't be that seriusthere is like 5 in your group, maybe he is the only one that does the real fighting the rest of you are just bigmouths, you being the biggest. Drop WP bigmouth lets see if you are so tough.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:45 am No? I didn't think so.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 02:13 pm Whiteboy, the basic reason I call them The Mob is because they are all allied but do not give themselves any other name. 1/2 of them were in The Mob when it attacked WGC. What else are they to be called to I don't need to list each name seperatly? I just slept for the last few hours....no harm done to my countries. I guess they underplanned what was needed.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 02:40 pm Wow, I mean I went into the war thinking these guys were jerks who knew what they were doing....now, they are just jerks. The telling fact is they continue to hide in war protection. I guess the solution is to take out all your countries not in war protection and wait for the others to get out. I'd describe this as a butt kicking so far, and find it funny that the other side keeps begging for peace. My responce is that you started the war, and now that you've lost you want peace...lol. To be reasonable, my peace offer for you is as follows: 1. Immediatly post admitting defeat and that you surrender. 2. Provide 50 gold coins per country taken in compensation to EVERY player who you have taken 1 or more countries from (except me as I have thousands of gold coins and don't need them) in the last 3 months. 3. Each player is to reduce their army size to less than 15 million men in their army nation-wide. 4. Each player will agree to provide a public appology to everyone who's countries they have raided. 5. Each player will agree as a condition of peace, to cash out of WG over the next 3 months and leave for good. These are my terms for negotiation. If not, you will continue to lose your empires until you leave WG in deafeat.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 03:29 pm Wow, Chrysostom I'd hire you to be my negotiator any day lol!
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 04:01 pm Hordo, Actually, I think I've offered very generious terms. I did not demand a single country from them, nor any bounty for myself. I am a little annoyed that the 2 day wait for attacking applies to a counter-attack, and that I couldn't start the war earlier. I'm also annoyed that they are allowed to attack and hide in war protection. I guess all there is to do is to take out all their countries not hiding in war protection, and then attack them when/if they leave war protection.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 04:03 pm Dear WG Community, given that EC is hidding the following countries in War Protection, I ask that you vote to boycott them until he take them out of war protection to fight. I ask this as a statement by the WG community that attackers should not be able to hide their countries in war protection while attacking the innocent. The countries I request boycott of are: x2 Epic Chaos x5 Rapture Legion Reaper Albatross Cherokee x4 x3 The Parted Waters Raven x1 Please send a statement to EC that he should fight like a man and stop hiding in WP while attacking others.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:12 pm Votes in.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 05:33 pm Thanks Wendy. The clean-up is continuing on the remnants of their non warprotected countries. It is unfortunate that the defenders need to wait 24 hours to declare a new war and that the attackers are allowed to hide in war protection. Any countries my allies take, clearly go to them. Any countries that I take, are open on a first-come, first-serve bases to players who lost countries at the hands of these bullies. Rules are: 1. You have to have lost 1 or more countries from these bullies 2. You must request a country taken 3. I will sell the country at min price, and stock it with cash to equal the gold coins paid for it. 4. The first pick of a few countries has already been reserved for players who are fighting now and lost countries. 5. Players who join the fight will also get first pick before players who do not. These gifts will be my way or helping to retun to players brutalized by these coward-bullies what they worked hard to achieve. Max 1 country given away per player, unless I get enough for everyone to get 2 (it is highly unlikely even everyone will get one). This offer is being provided both as a partial symbolic offering for those who lost far more than the small gift that is being offered; and to because I have no interest in gaining from taking countries that should first belong to the victims of earlier attacks. They are not EC's for me to take from him, as EC owes more to those he attacked earlier than his empire is worth. Other players who would like to join in the route, are welcome to attack also. Whatever you gain in the war you keep. War will continue until the 4 bullies who attacked agree to the terms listed earlier, or until they are eliminated from WG. If they wait in war protection for 3 months, I will wait too.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 06:45 pm Chrysostom - I understand the need to use a nick name to shorten things up, but the name you are choosing is not accurate and I'd appreciate it if you'd come up with something else. If the Mob name continues to be used, then the Mob federation will be compelled to enter to defend it's name. W - You drop WP and I'll do the same, don't know how many times I have to say it or how you can POSSIBLY try to pretend that you haven't been hiding in WP for years. As far as EO goes, you really have no idea what you're talking about and I'll leave it at that. If you think that he was the one to worry about, then take me up on my offer. I'll promise that you will only receive decs from me and none of my allies and I'll allow you to recruit any players you want to come after me with you...you, DTA, WGC, whoever. You bring every country out of secured and WP and agree to take no further countries other than anything you can get from me, whoever is left remains, the other stays away. More than generous...1 v however many...so let me know when you grow a pair and are willing to put your money where your mouth is.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 07:06 pm Whiteboy, When ONE member of WGC attacked me, I said WGC attacked me and WGC talked with their member and put him inline. The Mob was just recently on WG, and The Mob still exists on other worlds. No actions were taken by The Mob to stop the war. No actions were taken by The Mob to condemn the war. Furthermore The Mob is now threatening to ENTER the war on the side of The Mob players fighting in it. I respect that you may be telling it how it is. However, it is equally possible that you thought this would be an easy Mob win, and now that your allies are losing badly, maybe you feel the need to help them. My offer is to use a different name; PROVIDED, that: 1. You agree to launch NO military action against ANYONE on WG until the war between the players involved is over (that means until I have no countries out of war protection, or until the bullies agree to leave WG.) 2. You agree that NO MOB players will start any new wars against anyone on WG until the war I'm in is over. 3. You provide no assistance, in any way, to the players involved in this war until it is over. and ALL other Mob members do the same. 4. Any players who participate in this war on my side, you agree, not to attack or fight based on their participation (since you're not allied with the bullies, why would you need to make threats to help them). Very simple. If you agree to stay out of this war, and provide NO assistance and start NO new wars until this one is over, I'll use a different word. However, if you threaten any war on WG or help any of those 4 players while this war is ongoing, then you are involved supporting your allied. That is a very fair deal, as it is exactly what you asked for; except that you need to stop threatening military action and stay out of it. If there is NO Mob on WG, that also means NO THREATS AGAINST ANYONE OF THE MOB COMMING BACK until the war is over. Bottom line is that if you stay out of this war, and out of war on WG until this war is over, then I'll not call you The Mob. However, if you threaten anyone on WG during this war time, I must take that as your support of the bullies and alliance with them. When EC says lies about me and Jo speaks the truth on it; you need to live and let live. You can't be speaking up for EC, and claim not to be allied. Even Wendy; if Wendy speaks on THIS THREAD, you need to not threaten any war in WG with her. The bottom line is if this is NOT a MOB war, NO MOB player should be involved. If that is done, I'll agree to stop using the term and to even appologies for using it. If you make threats or fight in the war or participate, I'll assume you are helping as a Mob ally.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 07:10 pm Oh, given how the bullies are currently hiding in war protection, it may be a while before they leave or are eliminated. If they get the guts to come out, the war may be over soon.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:11 pm "Other players who would like to join in the route, are welcome to attack also. Whatever you gain in the war you keep. " -Chryso you sound confident that you can take my countries!! alright, tell you what, you want just the 4 us against you, and no others? well, you've got 4 friends, dboyd, dannyd, Doug Thomas, and amhose, and considering how you just plain pasted us, (lol,) u shouldn't need any more help, right? so, i can't speak for my allies, but i'll agree to fight you and your buddies, the ones listed above. me against the 5 of you. and my current 3 allies can help. if they choose. i've got 4 nice countries, The human torch, salty lemonade, foo foo danda, and domino. taking these countries would not only be quite the prize in stripping, but certainly would give bragging rights... you take them, and i'll gut and leave WG. if i take your other 7 nice countries, you leave WG. rules are simple, neither of us use WP, this of course could take a couple rl weeks. i can't speak for my allies, but in regards to you and me, looser leaves WG. and yes, i just took them out of WP. so you wanna talk big... come on big boy, put up or shut up.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:59 pm W3 has now fallen. It is now 2 countries lost on both side. For EC, he is down 2 countries. I'm not in war protection and don't plan on using it. I'm happy to negotiate the terms of a continued war; however, there needs to be someone on your side who speaks for everyone on your side. I have no intention of keeping any prize from stripping you; I intend to return the full proceeds from any countries I gain to those victimized by you four bullies. As a starting sign to show that you are negotiating in good faith, I ask you take all your countries (except your secure main) out of war protection. After the same is done for your allies, and you agree to speak as one, negotiations can begin in earnest. If you seek the up the terms as me leaving WG, then I expect you to up the terms and agree that (1) all 4 of you players will leave WG, (2) you will never come back. In terms of 4v4, there are more than 4 players currently in war or preparing for war on my side. Given that you had months to prepare, I see no need on my side to agree to limit future participants. You 4 have larger armies than all SNAPP combined. Therefore it is you 4 against whomever chooses to fight. You had surprise, and I've keep some surprise in keeping some assets in reserve. That is an equal fight. You 4 verse me and whomever else fights. If you win, I leave. If my allies and I win, you 4 leave. No war protection. First side with no one left fighting loses.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 09:43 pm W2 has now fallen. So far w1, w2, and w3 has fallen from EC. Ec has gained 0 countries in return for the 3 he lost. Brutus and Orbiter each took a country. Total score 3 - 2 so far. It may not appear to be a floor-mopping when said that way. However, they clearly UNDER PLANNED what was needed.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 09:53 pm Their air defense is broken in this area. Once again, if anyone wants to join in, feel free. It is easy pickings. Their plan has failed, and they have no back-up. I will add that I have a level of new-found respect for Orbiter willing to agree to leave WG if he loses (assuming terms can be worked out). We are fighting for a Safe WG. We want 1 world that is safe from bullies and raiders. We want that world to be WG. Anyone else who would like to join the fight to make WG a safe-haven world, please feel welcome. Bullies must leave WG or remove their militaries. Repayment should be made to victims, and it should be safe for them to rebuild. After this war is won, WG will be safe again.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 09:59 pm Nice, 2 news items in a row. I like this newspaper: Compassion army takes full control in W2 After the attack, the president of W2 is reported to have left the country and a new government approved by Compassion has been nominated. Bangoro is very severely damaged. Weapons based at Bangoro may have been destroyed. On the Compassion side no losses were reported. The attack may have been reduced or eliminated by Anti Missile Missiles. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- peace army takes full control in W3 After the attack, the president of W3 is reported to have left the country and a new government approved by peace has been nominated. Kamo is very severely damaged. Weapons based at Kamo may have been destroyed. On the peace side no losses were reported. The attack may have been reduced or eliminated by Anti Missile Missiles.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:26 pm 4- bullies. I have over 500T in my direct trading account and over 2,000 gold coins. Rebuilding for me is not a problem. I'm sure you guys have more...but my point is that win or lose, I'm not really going to be hurt all that bad. I'm sure the same is true for each of you. What I want is for WG to be a peace world. I think there should be one that is primarily peacefull, as WG has traditionally been. If you 4 leave, that will be big progress towards that, and towards having a world build on cooperation, rather than conflict. There are several other worlds you can fight on; leave this one alone. Until you leave, you'll find your time here unprofitable.... this war will be the start of the return of peace on WG.
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| Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:53 pm Chrysostom - I think you are getting a bit beyond yourself here and frankly you're really starting to piss me off. These players are all my friends (except Brutus, don't know him) and when I got home from a mini-vacation this weekend on Sunday night and saw your post in the general forums the first thing I did was post asking what the situation was. I'm not going to pass judgement on anything I do not have any knowledge of. I then saw this thread and the BS being spewed in it, asked that the BS stop and asked for you to contact me directly if you wanted some help working through the situation. YOU CHOSE NOT TO DO SO, so don't come around now and talk about how I did nothing. I had no idea about anything to do with this war and was just as surprised by it as you were because there is no Mob on WG so there is no leader of the Mob on WG and these are independent players who make there own choices and don't need to clear them through me. Throwing out more BS about how I'm saying something because they are 'losing' is ridiculous and baseless. I have no intent to get involved in this war but I'm not going to bargain with you about a name, and posting and threatening and whatever other crap you're coming up with. You've got no standing to make demands of me, I tried to help you and you decided to be an ass about it and then make demands of me...and it's because you actually think you're winning that war. On that note, you really need to consider what you are doing and just how successful you've been, you're taking c3's that were put together in a day and losing countries that are built and full of assets. I'm not sure that you understand the nature of c3 warfare (which by the way I completely do not support and was one of the reasons I wanted to help you work out a deal) but anyway, these players can just continue to take c3 after c3 and drain you completely, these aren't idiots you're fighting against. These people do know what they are doing so if I was you, I would first reconsider what you are calling 'victory', second reconsider who it is you're calling names and third whether you should accept peace as they have nothing to lose while you have everything. It's not often that you get peace offerings from people with nothing at stake. If you want to have a conversation about this then send me a message, communicate reasonably and respectfully, I'll do the same.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 12:24 am well, chryso, i don't believe that any one has the right to speak for another person, when the stakes are "leave WG," as WB pointed out, we aren't idiots. if you want to brag about your overwhelming victory, (laugh,) and claim to lead the charge against a routed foe.. then you are obviously confident that you can defeat us, hell, chryso, lets just you and me go, loser leaves WG? i mean, if you so soundly defeated me, this should be easy for you. and none of your allies have to fire a shot? no, your talking crap, and you are going to find a way to weasel out of what you just said. you are already doing it. you are the like the wizard of Oz, "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain." Mr Weasel, you've made demands that we leave WG, my WS are out of protection, if you think you can kick me off WG, go for it!!!
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 01:15 am hiteboy (White Giant) Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:53 pm Click here to edit this post Chrysostom - I think you are getting a bit beyond yourself here and frankly you're really starting to piss me off." looks like Somebody needs a diaper.... No one cares if you are pissy WB. Excuse #3. If you drop I'll drop. Are you still in wp? Yes you are...
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 01:16 am Excuses Excuses...
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 01:51 am Yeah, like I'm going to trust you of all people. You know the deal, it's been made to you for the millionth time, stop stalling and let me show everyone just how horrible you are.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 01:54 am Did Chryso go to the school of wendy? Sounds like he did. Talking like he conquered a small fed when all he did was take a few smal c3's, LOL. Also, you knew I was a member of |The Mob on WG, why did you send me a message requesting help to fend off the four people attacking you? Wendy, fight with something worth taking, and not your worthless c3's(not that you know to fight), if not stop spamming how we are scared to fight you cause we in wp. We in wp because we ain't gonna waste our time taking your worthless c3's, like you want us to, and waste our time by continuosly decing our high level countries with your worthless c3's. Bring your main out of WP and I will do the same. You won't because you are a coward and have nothing to fight with or risk losing except for your secured main. Thats the way you've always been and thas the way you'll always be. End of story....... OWNED
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 01:56 am Still waiting for you to leave WP windbag, won't do it will you....? Didn't think so OWNED
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 02:27 am excuses.... excuses.... If I am so horrible you tits wouldn't be in wp as it is now. Your actions speak louder than your words. I have several opponents waiting to fight me. You have only one, combined between the whole lot of you. I never knew you would chicken out over one player while simultaneously screaming about how terrible I am. Any more excuses?
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 02:32 am Just be real and admit that you aren't that confident fighting unless EO is around to log in for you.... Darth Dizzy is available... or is he?>?>?>? Keto if I were you I would be hiding because you can't even install proper garrisons. Whiteboy for all the big talk you are hiding in WP for over a month now because of one person. You war slaves in wp. I have econ slaves in WP. Everyone knows how you like to fight in a group so yeah I have my wp on so I don't get jumped ... not like I didn't see that coming. Who exactly is planning to jump on you? Just me. And that is why you hide. OwneD!!!
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 02:34 am Too easy chumps, you complain about c3 warfare while using against players on WG.... I guess you haven't peaked your hypocrisy yet. But I already knew that OwneD!!!
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 02:40 am Whiteboy, A serious question. What possible incentive do I have to make peace? None. They will just attack me again later, or someone else will. The only way for me to have peace is to form a coalition of players willing to join together and fight against bullies who attack. Sort of like what federations do. WGC was attacked and that federation lost more members and countries after the war was over than during it. They face constant threats, and cannot build safely. I have no desire to play like that. I'd rather fight now and lose all my countries or drive away the bullies.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 02:43 am You're a b*tch and everyone knows it, no one trusts you or likes you, so stfu. I've spent the last year offering you very gracious deals so that I could wipe you out and you think that I'm going to be stupid enough to fall for your 'I'll do it if you do' right now. Give me a f*ckin break you piece of sh*t. You having more people after you will not change before or after I leave WP and frankly that is a BS excuse because all of the people that would dec you are my friends and would respect my request to leave you alone so that I could personally wipe you out which you are fully aware of. On that same note, you are fully aware that I have people waiting for me to come out of WP, namely DTA, so it isn't just you who has other people to deal with. I'm willing to deal with all of that to wipe you off of every world except GR where you can stay like the little troll you are...but I can't trust you so unless you're willing to put your money where you're mouth is, stfu. On a side note, EO gave his account to my little brother to watch over two weeks ago and I have been 'training' him, he lives with me. So he's been the one destroying you over and over and over again...owned...
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 03:00 am Well Chrysostom, that is actually not true. Is WGC being attacked right now? They aren't, if they say they'll give you peace, I'd take them at their word. They are not liars and if you will accept my assistance this time I will offer my services should *either* side fail to enforce their side of a peace deal. I'm not stacked on WG at this time, however these guys are my friends plus they know what I can do and I'm probably the last person they want to be fighting against at this point. I have already had a conversation with EC and I let him know that I didn't like the overall strategy that was in place. If he had a personal issue with you then he should have taken it up 1 v 1 out of WP, if you brought in people to support then he could have done so as well. EC is a very good guy and just like any of us he gets a bit overzealous from time to time. I don't know the complete backstory of how every person got involved but I've made my opinion clear that if the intention was just to fight you then bringing 4 people and using c3's was wrong and an unfair expectation. You don't know me or these guys, if you want to follow the forum spew instead of speaking directly then what results is a big clusterf*ck because *certain* people instigate and cause problems which keeps everyone on edge. As soon as I was finally able to speak to someone who had knowledge of the situation it was too late, but my intention from the beginning was to figure out what was going on and see if I could help, because people wanted to complain and call names instead of communicating, this is where it ends up. Anyway, I strongly believe in peace treaties and have more than one time stepped in to make sure they were enforced. If you can strike a treaty with those guys, then post it here or send it to me directly and I'll do whatever I can to make sure it is enforced. As far as someone else attacking you, I suppose that is possible, but isn't that always possible regardless of what happens here? If anything you've had a pretty strong showing against some respected war players, I wouldn't think this situation would make you more likely to be decd in the future. As far as a coalition of players, a federation, that is exactly what you should have, everyone who is at all interested in playing the war game should join or build a federation...it's the best way to defend yourself and the best way to learn more about the game.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 03:00 am Windbag, you've been in WP since you started playing this game, and you still are, after countless people asking you to leave WP. I don't need garrisons to defend against you, and you know that.Besides, did you ever take a country from me?......? Didn't think so...OWNED! You couldn't take a c3 from me .And I can fight perfectly well with out EO. After all, I did learn most of what I know about fighting from him. Whiteboy is not hiding in WP. We are in WP because we won't watse our time with your useless, meaningless way of pretending to know how to fight, while risking nothing. Like I said, thats what you've always done and that's what you will always do, hide in WP. You jump me? LMFAO, Really?Really? Are you serious? You couldn't jump me even if I bent down to make it easier for you. Hell, you can't even take a country when a player is busy in school not fighting back. Talk about pathetic. Keep trying to make yurself feel better in he forums with your meaningless replies trying to make yourself look better. Nobody is buying it. I'm sorry to say that after 2+ years of you playing this game, you've amounted to nothing(which is pathetic). You have no friends and never will. what little friends you had at one time you manipulated to take the grunt of attacks by others because of your trash talk on the forums. Bringyour main out of WP, I'll do the same, even better I'll start with a c3 with no offense, and |I'll still take your worthless main. Sound like a plan?........ .........I didn't think so. OWNED!
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 03:05 am On a side note, EO gave his account to my little brother to watch over two weeks ago and I have been 'training' him, he lives with me. So he's been the one destroying you over and over and over again...owned LMFAO! LMFAO! LMFAO! OWNED! and OWNED again!
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 03:41 am LMAO, both of you quit running your mouths and drop. Your mouths writing checks your candy arses can't cash. you mean you've been logging in for him, which explains why I took down his air defense so easily, and he then logged in to take the 5 stripped countries I used to kill all those pretty interceptors. I see its getting clearer now. Keto, you couldn't train a dog to sit. And you suck and thank you for proving. Are we back to the point w3c where we let people log in to others accounts? Okay nevermind I have a trick for that. Then again I'll have to wait for you to come out of wp to use it.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 04:12 am No I mean my brother has been logging in for him from the same IP address as me. Watch, right now my brother is going to destroy your latest worthless dec in a matter of minutes...it's gonna be great...I think I'll watch. What is clear is that my brother has to log in for 15 minutes every couple of days to destroy your worthless decs, he was unavailable at the beginning of your BS wars because like me and unlike you, he has a life...good times, b*tch. How does it feel to be owned?
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 04:15 am Yeah, you mean you are logging in for him in order to fight. Yeah my grandma logs in for me too. Whatever. I got a trick for that too. Drop WP and lets see if you can really manage both accounts. No? I'll wait.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 04:57 am Someone really sucks...my bro taught me this game in like 15 minutes, he swears it's more complex and it's only so easy because this Windy person who I'm apparently beating the sh*t out of sucks soooooooooo bad...but I mean REALLY? Darkest army takes full control in likapierot duex The war started 9/24, was over 9/29. I lost exactly 3 precision bombers and the country has 22 million population...oh and I actually gained 4797 precision bombers AND 3.3 trillion in cash because whoever this idiot is left them in the country. WB told me to tell you: Owned. Also, he said that you suck so bad that it might be better if your grandma did fight for you, maybe she could hold a country for more than 15 minutes. Bazinga.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:00 am Lol...it's just so easy. When you're fighting someone who has no clue how to fight it's so easy to teach someone else how to do it. So formulaic. I mean when I was typing that I was like, damn, why am I teaching my brother to fight people that don't know how to...that's kind of mean, but then I remembered, it's W's b*tch ass who keeps it up. IDIOT Just the latest example of why you'll never come out of WP, you wouldn't last a day against just about anyone. How does it feel to be owned?
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:02 am Whiteboy, I need to talk with others on my side. However, I just took moan. That is a total of 4 countries taken; 3 in a row. This is not really a balanced fight, as I'm just clicking away taking C3s at pleasure. If you can talk the other side into agreeing to a LASTING peace where their will be no insults going in any direction, I'm willing to sit at the table. I continue to believe that they fight with 0 honor. They launched a surprise attack, with no provication, using C3s while hiding in war protection themselves. I would have gladly agreed to fight 1 v 1 with either brutus or ec; but instead they did a sneak attack hiding in war protection. I have a few reasonable conditions: 1. The 4 people who attacked me agree to close down all the C3s they set-up and move out of my area. 2. The 2 countries that were taken from me: Charity and Courage, are to be deregistered, sold, or given to a nonthreatening player. 3. The 4 players attacking agree to consider whatever score they have with me or anyone in the war settled. 4. The 4 players agree not attack any SNAPP member for a period of 1 real life year. 5. The 4 people attacking me admit defeat. I think this is reasonable. Frankly, I could continue indefinatly taking c3 after c3. However, it is boring. Since you have shared with EC your displeasure in his actions, I appologize for lumping you in with him. Facing the reality that the 4 are in war protection and all continued war means is never ending fighting of C3s, peace with worth considering. That said, I retain my opinion that they did not fight with honor.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:17 am Chrysostom - I appreciate your perspective, however I think you guys should directly negotiate any terms, it will make the process much easier and is more likely to result in something reasonable for both sides. Once there is an agreement, as I said, I will do everything in my power to make sure said agreement is honored to the fullest. I would strongly suggest negotiating via private msgs, not the forums as it is much easier to be honest and direct and far less likely to be interfered with by other players or that one of the players involved in the negotiations becomes offended by any of the requested terms. If you have a private forum that you share with your mates and you'd like them to be able to see what is being said then it would be much better to post it there than have it be public in this echo chamber. As far as fighting with honor, as I said, I don't know the full backstory of how this all went down so I won't make such a judgment. I think that the issue should have been resolved in a different way and that is as much as I will say on the matter other than that I know these guys, you may consider specific actions or choices not honorable, but they are all very honorable people and very great players. These are great players to have as friends and I think you should consider getting to know some or all of them during and after any negotiations that take place. It is easy to judge someone from the outside when you do not know their perspective or anything about them, but those judgments are most often inaccurate. We all make them but I think we all know they aren't fair most of the time.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:34 am WB, I have slightly less than 1 quadrillion in cash, and more than 120K precision bombers. I can stuff another country with 20K and 20 trillion in you'll come out of protection. Your brother sounds like you, you think you are good because you took a country with a ready made account(although your 'brother' is you; you cant even type differently). Here's what is funny you both think your good becuase you get an account and use it, big whoop. I made my account. How about you. WB you gathered a few assets on LU, are you afraid to risk them, becuase of lil old me? I mean comon I let your brother beat me. I'd rather see your 'brother' have his own account and fight, but we all know your brother is your imagination. Are you still in wp? Yes. I told you back when you were jumping up and down that as soon as I make HOF I would fight you. What do you do? You and a bunch of your weak arse fed start hostile bidding my ceo to sabotage my levels hoping to stop me from getting HOF. What are the odds that the very day I hit HOF, your whole fed sits in WP and has since then? Obviously it is you dodging a fight you were acting like you wanted so much. And what have you done since then? Nothing but what you have done since you came into the game. Fight from other peoples accounts and think you are hot stuff. So are you like 15 years old? Your little brother(lmao) lives with you and not his parents? Just man up and say you logged into EO's account. Its about all you've been good for since you first logged into yankees account. Ever since then all you've done is run your mouth. But now you are hiding in wp. I will wait for you to drop WP. The longer you wait the better for me. Now do you want to make anymore excuses fairy? Or will you drop wp already so we can get your pitiful existence over with.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:34 am Whiteboy, I was in WGC with Brutus and EC for a year. While EC was allied with me he planned to attack me. He is not honorable. I will not negotiate privatly with people who sneak attack trying to gang up 4v1 while hiding in war protection. They have not even admitted that they were dishonorable in their attack; nor that they are losing badly.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:37 am Main reason I never privately make deals they will twist up everything to try and make themselves look good.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:39 am Common sense thing to is they only want to play peace for a chance to come back and do it again. Like a broken record seems to repeat over and over.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:41 am Maybe he thinks I didn't let him take the country becuase "EO he never liked you" has an active war. See Whiteboy, I dictate when and how we will fight. You can take all the countries you want. I want more interceptors get them ready.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 06:13 am Tom Willard Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 04:09 pm Click here to edit this post In the past days we had some incidents with wars fought by a group of people from one account. .... There are some problems and possible solutions: Accounts can currently be used to wage war by two or more players, from different IP numbers that are far apart, in different cities, or countries. They can arrange fighting to continue around the clock while the defender is unable to be available and fight back. This is unfair and should obviously stop immediately. .... The simcountry site has all the login data from day one and we know which IP numbers are being used for every account. We are now considering this practice a multi playing. As of today, we will check accounts and will act where this is used. To start with, we will just check several accounts from time to time and if we find multiple IP numbers, we will block the account. In time, we will automate this process. ----------------------------------------- WB ask yourself where you or EO would be if they enforced this rule. You just admitted you are logging on to his account, so there isn't even a need to check. I know I know blah blah your brother yada yada .... Its your IP logging into his account. Thx for admitting it. w3c can we enforce at least some of the rules here? Maybe then Whiteboy will log into his own account if he wants to fight.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:04 pm I calculated it out. The 2 countries that were taken from me: Charity and Courage. Charity has a net asset value about -84 trillion. about 10 trillion in military assets. Population of 53 million, so you can sell 33 million. at 4 gold coins per sale, that's 133 gold coins. At 400b per gold coin, the debt is worth about 210 gold coins. You LOST about 77 gold coins in taking that country. Courage as a negative asset value of about -38T. Military assets are truely minimal. Population 49 million. Let's say you sold population down to 20 million, that's 29 million pop sold for 4 gold coins each. 124 gold coins. The 38 trillion debt, using an exchange rate of 400b per gold coin is worth 95 gold coins. Your raid wins are about 30 gold coins. Total winnings from gaining the countries -47 gold coins. NOT COUNTING THE COST OF ATTACKING ME. What you folks fail to realize is that I have plans B, C, D, and E to make attacking me unprofitable for any raider. SINCE the war has started, my direct trading account has INCREASED by over 500T from what it started from when war was declared. My gold coins are essentially the same. About 200T was a payment that I took from the people who raided my countries (thanks), about 300T was moved by me stripping. I've spent 80% of my time, not fighting the war, but stripping and setting some econ traps. Am I gaining from the war: no. Are you 4 gaining: no. All that is going on is destruction and wealth lost by everyone. You 4, however, have further lost any honor you may have had by your hidding in war protection and your sneak attack. You also lost any image you may have had that you knew how to fight. You've proven unable to fight as people expected.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 05:26 pm Chrysostom, you calculated wrong. Although it does not show up immediately you actually took all the debt in both countries. Only 2 Trillion in debt is actually kept by the conqueror. The rest of the debt will show up on your books month by month until it has equalized. This was a fix a long time ago that nuetralized to things, 1. Debt bombing an attacker by loading up a country with debt, then letting the attacker absord said debt. 2. On the other side, it shows up slowly and not right away so that the debt you bring to your main because of conquering doesn't immediately show up and possibly vault you to the threshold of automatic closing of your main. In this case you would have defaulted to your loans and lost your main with the combined debt of those two countries. Just something to keep in mind.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 08:09 pm Wendy, I calculated correctly. I used a method different from the normal one. One you don't know. my neighbors suck has fallen. That is now 5 countries taken from the bullies. 2 lost. 4 in a row taken.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 08:33 pm Oh you mean the other way? LoL, I know that one too. I haven't had the luxury of applying it though, but I am sure I'll get the chance soon lol!
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 08:34 pm And good job LOL!
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 08:54 pm Yes :-), the other way. You know Wendy, you are welcome to join fighting in the war at any time. You may find it fun.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 08:58 pm I would... but I havea lot on my plate plus I'm waiting for the gms to stop WB from logging into EO's account, and make him fight from his own. You clean up for now I may enter later if there is a later. Keep up the good work. It is about time someone stood up for WG and themselves.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 09:30 pm EC just extended war protection again. I put up a security council resolution asking the security council to vote to condemn EC's use of war protection while attacking someone else. I ask security council members to vote for that. Namely, to insist EC either leaves war protection or makes peace. On the same note, I ask everyone to boycott EC's countries hiding behind war protection. These countries are: If you have not yet done so, please boycott EC's countries hidding in secure mode while he attacks me. The countries are: x2, Epic Chaos, x5, Rapture, Legion, Reaper, Albatross, Cherokee, x4, x3, The Parted Waters, Raven, x1. It is a miss-use of war protection that someone can do what EC and the other 3 are doing. We need, as a community, to voice our opposition.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 09:35 pm Not really you just need to fight. Stop wasting ammo on c3s and wait for him to drop wp. WP cannot be misused, it is available to any country you have so long as you can put up a coin.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 09:47 pm lol chryso, good job!!! now lets find out what plan b is!!!
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 11:26 pm Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon) Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 09:35 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not really you just need to fight. Stop wasting ammo on c3s and wait for him to drop wp. WP cannot be misused, it is available to any country you have so long as you can put up a coin. Sound familiar windbag?Kinda like fightin you? Chryso you are failing to realize(like windbag) that you are taking worthless c3s, and they mean nothing. They are fighting like windbag, good countries in wp and fight from worthless c3s.
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| Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 11:36 pm Keto you are still pointing the finger and spamming, just drop wp and fight or leave her alone. You look like a bigger coward because if you drop wp no one but her will attack you, but if she drops you and your friends will attack her. Wendy perfected a strategy to control you and demoralize you and strip you of your imaginary powder and all you can do is call names and act like less of a man with your foul mouth. You and you goons have met their match in Wendy so fess up and let everyone know that the reason you are in wp with your fed is because you know she will own you worse like she did the first time. Wendy is stronger than you guys in mind and spirit that is why you all stoop to new lows just to spread hate and act like unthinkable people calling her a B word over a stupid game and you wonder why no one will speak up for gamemaster to change things because you deserve the ass whooping she is going to do to you if you and your fed come out of wp. You wouldn't have to fight any c3s or Wendy if you learn to mind your manners like I hope you mom told you. If I were your mom I would be ashamed you all need to grow up. at least a little
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 12:35 am Olivia oracia has fallen. 6 down. Keto, you fail to realize that all they've left me to attack are their pure war countries. One had 17 million population and 0 corporations. These c3 countries have full offense, full defense, and no econ. It is completely unfair that they can attack without exposing their econ. If they were out of war protection, they would have lost 6 real countries.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 12:38 am In the meantime you have taken 6 countries... you're a winner chrysostom ;)
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 12:48 am wow, hordo, i wish i had the time to show you why people are complaining about c3 warfare... after all that chryso, are you really going to brag about every c3 you take? seriously, this could have already been over, like yesterday, but you wont let it go, give it up already
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 01:17 am Orbiter, seriousily, this could have never started. You want peace- ask for it. I've not gotten a single message from any of you asking for peace, nor a single post on this board.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 01:21 am Chryso...congrats on the great war. I seriously overestimated your all mighty war prowess. I have been humbled by you and your greatness. Who else could take 6 C3's in only 3 short days? What an accomplishment. White Giant...there is a new world power on the planet. His name is Chrysostom. C3's around the globe are already trembling in fear. Not only will he completely destroy them....but in the process he will boycott them and request that NO C3 ever, will have war protection again. Wow...he's like a knight in shining armor. I can see it now...posters on young boys walls with Chrysostom the Great taking down the dark evil C3's of White Giant. Take a moment....and witness his glory....forever will he be known as The Great C3 Slayer! Take a bow...we are humbled by your aura and presence.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 02:55 am well chryso, you can revisit the above "loser leaves WG," or you can just drop it. thats all i am offering.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 03:05 am EC lol. If only your honor was equal to your humor. Excuse my French, but you attacked with all you had the balls to attack with, and I'm cutting them off. Don't blame me if they are small. That is what you had the guts to take out of war protection and fight with. For all the times you guys keep saying a win is not a win because you didn't risk real countries, my advise is to risk them. The Boycott is a show of support of the WG community for you to take your countries out of war protection and fight like a man; or to seek peace. It is a condemnation of your attacking with C3s. It is not just me; 20 other people and counting have voted for you to fight like a man or stop fighting. Same for the rest of you 4 bullies.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 03:59 am Fact: EC's army size before the war: 47 million. Fact: EC's army size now: 33 Million. Even with all the new military he has bought, he has is down 14 million soldiers and officers. To put that in perspective, I started the war with 16 million soldiers and officers. I have taken essentially (in addition to what he has rebuilt) as many troops as where in my entire army AND THIS IS JUST WHAT I TOOK FROM EC. So, 4 people attack me. Their armies were several times the size of mine (about 10 times as large when combined), and I've killed -- from EC alone almost as many troops as were in my army when war started. They had in their C3s more troops, than I did in my empire. Bottom line is that with a 10 to 1 advantage, they failed their dishonorable unprovoked attack. They now hide in war protection. My allies and I have taken 6 of their countries, including 5 in a row. Please join the boycott to make a statement that they need to make peace or leave war protection.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 04:09 am very well chryso, well keep on shooting.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 04:31 am wow, hordo, i wish i had the time to show you why people are complaining about c3 warfare... after all that Orbiter, I hope you didn't mean you want to attack me. Even if you do so what. I will not be intimidated to bend the truth or lower my standards in my real life the everyday people would break a man's jaw and face for talking to a woman like keto and his fed talk to wendy. It is disgusting, I'll go to war if need be for pointing out that it is disgusting you aren't saying anything to me I will continue pointing out that these little boys need to act like men it is a game I don't care if you have time or not to show me what c3 war is all about. nothing you say or do will change my mind or hush me. Grow up little boys, try being a man and make you mothers proud.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 04:33 am Most of the remaining countries, I've agreed to let other people attack... My only job is painting them.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 05:05 am Hordo - She's not a woman, she's a b*tch and has gotten far less than she deserves. In addition, she could be a dude...probably is, I'll choose to treat everyone in this game equally because who knows and to be honest, everyone should be treated equally anyway. Plus, (s)he's said and done far more than we ever will in a very short amount of time and instead of it being settled in game she hides in WP so she can talk sh*t and c3 dec everyone for whatever reason she feels like. It's bullsh*t and when you eventually have to deal with it (she's done it to every other person who at one time defended her), then you'll know what the deal is. No one can shut anyone up in this game, that's part of the problem. Everyone wants to yap, yap, yap and the entire game becomes about who has the most time to waste instead of who has the most talent or has worked hard. That's some bullsh*t, the little attention whore hijacks every conversation, especially the conversations that have nothing to do with her. It's a joke. W - (copied from other thread) I never stated that I am logging into EO's account. I clearly stated that my brother (who I trained in 15 minutes about how to destroy you because you suck so bad) has been given EO's account while EO is away from the game dealing with school. My brother lives with me and I can document that information in any way the GM's find necessary. Bank statements, mail, licenses, whatever they want, we'll provide if asked by the GM's. There is no rule that two people living in the same house can not play Simcountry. Many people do it and I thought this would be a great time to bring my brother into the game, he has some free time and as are most people, is much smarter than you so it doesn't take him much time to learn how to kick your ass like everyone else has.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 05:33 am WhiteBoy I don't need to do any research I saw the whole war I know you like to tell people what they can or cannot think but I have two eyes to see and I report what I saw. You are selfish andself centered enough to think what you have to say is the only thing that matters but Keto was nuked more than 50 times, it is funny how you and your crew have selective memory, nukes are pretty useless if you nuke c3s but I counted as all ketos countries that were unprotected shed more than 10 million population each I would not call that a a useless part of the game. I know what I saw I don't need some big mouth telling me different mind your business I was not talking to you. I didnt really trust the advice given me but I should have wendy was telling me the whole time to take down the air defense first I thought it was impossible waste of time but she did it all by herslef more than 140K interceptors. so it was my fault for not listening. The only tperson that is ridiculous is you I hope the gms do something about you loggin in to fight from two accounts from 1 ip address. It doesn't matter if you have a brother or not who is to say it is not you? I can provide info for up to 10 people does that mean I should be logging on to someone elses account to fight? No Tom says it has to stop I wouldn't be so proud and loud mouth you may just have a surprise coming yet. Making someones identity does not prove anything except that 1 IP is using the accounts. Clearly against the rules. I don't think the whole game should be held accountable to a set of rules while you get away with breaking them. Your IP should be banned from EO's account that is bad for the game to continue letting you do that. I can make 10 more accounts and say my cousins want to play but will it not be obvious that I only want to multi? You call people multi player yet break the rules and that is bad for the game becuase no one can know if it is you or not. Even if you have a brother it proves nothing the obvious is that your ip is governing two accounts and tom clearly expresses that it has to stop.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 05:34 am And I don't care for that juvenile kind of language towards a woman Whiteboy, this is a only a game you lowlife scumbag you need to grow up.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 05:36 am I remember Jonni telling Wendy to keep the forums clean for saying "bitching" which is only decribing an action, but you keep calling her bitch and I have not witnessed a gm or moderator warn you about your language. Are there two sets of rules that apply to everyone else and Whiteboy gets to break them and live by his own? Is he exempt?
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 06:07 am *sshole, b*tch, f*ck, b*lls, d*ck That's all clean, there is a TV show with one of those words in the title on network TV...can't remember which one. Deal with it, stop crying about language like a little girl.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 06:11 am Hey, I'm a boy. What's wrong with being a boy?
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 07:29 am Orbiter has left war protection for 4 real countries, and is now fighting with them. Good for him to finally put something on the line.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 07:30 am So I assume you condemn C3 warfare?
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 08:19 am finally? wow? they've been out of protection. nearly the entire time. they were out of protection when i dec'd they were out of protection when the wars opened after i took charity, i thought that would be the end of this event, so i put my countries into protection because i wanted a break when i saw you demanding we leave WG... i took them out of protection. although, with torch, i over looked that one. i meant to take it out, i thought i did, but actually didn't chryso, they were out of protection, nearly the entire time, except for torch and doom, which were merely an oversight when i say "nearly," i mean, during this, they spent about 1 game month in protection but go ahead, say "finally," so far 95% this has been you spinning... and i think you can still squeeze in a few more decs on most, domino should only be able to get one more, but torch, salty lemon aid, and foo foo danda, can each get 4 more, that is if the 10 dec limit kicks in... so fill me up with decs, i've been waiting, what 4 days? so yea, FINALLY
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 08:21 am Serpent, my objection is to a larger attacker using a series of c3s while hiding in war protection when attacked a weaker opponent. In my case, I was attacked by 4 people with combined armies 10 times my army's size. They did so while hiding in war protection. That is simply an unfair tactic. Were the other countries not in war protection, my objections would be none or less. Were the defender greatly outnumbered by multiple attackers, C3 warfar may sound more fair.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 08:26 am Orbiter, My bad. Good for you. My appologies for saying your didn't have the guts to take your countries out of war protection. I was completely focused on EC, and just assumed the others were doing the same. So, are you still planning to leave WG if you lose?
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 08:28 am are you if you lose? and if you are, you should probably take your countries out of protection also
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 09:13 am Good point, I put them there after all the wars expired on them as a sign of peace...however, it looks like the war is back on. If we are able to negotiate the terms of a war, I'm willing to agree to leave if we have a specific agreement on relevent conditions to ensure enforcement and terms. First, it will be necessary to know the status of the war participants on your side, such as who is going to continue the fight, who agrees to leave, who agrees to whatever terms are agreed to. Second, it will be necessary to understand how this will be enforced. Third, the conditions that trigger victory must be agreed upon. Finally, there are other matters, such as agreements concerning other worlds and other players that must be addressed. Bottom line is that all is on the table. From war to the death with loser leaving WG to peace.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 09:30 am well, i'll send you my msn, and we can hash it out, as we have already filled this thread. you certainly are correct, some boundaries need to be set. i mean, if we agree to this, what if a third party decides to jump in? ect... but i'd like to leave you with this, i can only speak for myself, the seriousness of a wager of this kind... one can not speak for another.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 10:19 am one thing i'd like to point out, with the suggested changes... SNAPP, has declared war on my nice countries, (not complaining,) so how ever justified any one may think that they are. for this point, i'm not saying who's in the right or wrong, many people have many opinions, the point here, is what has just happened, in relation to upcoming changes... snapp has declared war on the #3, 4, 5, and 25 war ranked countries... not the other way around so with suggested changes, i would be able to buy officers, and soldiers... have increased spending limits, have the "start now" button, and i would of course start each war over the next 48 hours at my convenience, my allies could counter dec, so 5 of the top 10 war slaves would, over the next 48 hours, would start one war at a time, destroying SNAPPs military countries, one by one, at our leisure... just pointing this out.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 04:38 pm Mr Chrysostom, So then you agree with C3 warfare so long as it meets your prescribed criteria. OK I understand.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 04:41 pm Serpent c3 warfare is not okay as long as it is not your friends doing it and if it doesn't meet your prescribed criteria? Rhetorical ...
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 05:25 pm Serpent, 22 players on White Giant have voted with their boycotts to say that the type of warfare engaged against me was wrong. Their own federation allies on another world (who fought with them on this world recently), have critisized publically the tactics used. The issue is not a tactic in general, the issue is how this war was conducted. I'm not speaking in abstract. Nor about rhetoric. I'm saying that the WG community objects to how this war was conducted by the attackers. They showed a lack of honor. When they had a 10 to 1 advantage, they attacked with a bunch of C3s, and even kept C3s in war protection. These are C3s, one with 17 mil and another with 15 mil in population with 0 corporations. All military.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 10:17 pm Thats fine, all Im asking is if you condemn C3 warfare of any type? Simple question, it only requires a yes or no. Of course we all know how some others fell, like Windy! I was just curious about your thoughts.
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| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 11:31 pm Chryso, thats the way wendy fights and its ok, but if others do it, it's not ok?
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 12:19 am I have already expressed my opinion that they way I was attacked was wrong. I fought Wendy earlier this year. She has more honor than EC does.
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 12:58 am Chrys...I'm willing to walk away from this. First and last time this offer will be on the table. So...that being said...take the offer, or lose your empire, along with watching your fed get dismantled. I fully expect a smart a** answer from you, as I dont think you quite understand the repercussions of what you are doing. I'm growing tired of your incoherent babbling nonsense. Enough is enough. Choose your fate...walk away...or give me yet another smart a** answer, which I will deal with accordingly.
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 01:01 am Honestly, I fight stronger, and more skilled opponents using c3 warfare, usually against more than one opponent at a time as well. After all the crying your group has done over the past month or so, for 4 of you to attack a single opponent even while outnumbering and having plenty of recently acquired slaves to fight with, yeah it was pretty pitiful to attack some one who doesn't agree with you. Hypocrisy at its best. Just another Phailed attempt to force people to see things your way. Respect goes a lot further than fear, and honestly even that is wearing out for you guys, you have lost respect chasing players out of the game, and fear is a thing of the past, you casn'r scare people into doing or saying what you want them to say. How do you suppose you will scare the Gms into caving into your demands?
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 02:32 am The bottom line is this, this is a war game. Be prepared to be attacked anywhere anytime. Doesnt matter if you're attacked from a fed or from a single player. I bet if anyone was attacked by a single player, nobody would be crying on the forums. Feds have been around forever and I bet everyone crying on the forums(except for wendy) is part of one. Talk with your fed and plan a counter attack against the fed who attacked you. If you don't want to, then stop the crying in the forums and play a game where you can't be attacked. We are all here to play an economy game while playing a fighting game. Its the way its always been and its the way it will always be.
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 03:08 am "The bottom line is this, this is a war game. Be prepared to be attacked anywhere anytime. Doesnt matter if you're attacked from a fed or from a single player." It would be nice if you followed your own logic keto. The bottom line is this, this is a war game. Be prepared to be attacked anywhere anytime. Doesnt matter if you're attacked from a fed or from a single player, or from one or many war slave or from one or many c3s. The only one crying on the forums has been you poptart. If you have a problem with c3s then buy war protection or mind your manners and you won't be attacked.
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 03:49 am When it comes to you wendy, there is no logic and we play a different game. If I wanted to chase around worthless c3s and waste ammo, I'd be out of wp.
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 03:58 am EC, I've put your proposal (the one you actually messaged me) to a vote. I'll let you know the response. The terms you proposed were: m: Epic Chaos To: Agape Real Date: 17-09-2010 01:32:51 World Date: May 01 2755 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: War Message: We're done with this war, we are offering you and the members of your fed peace for a minimum of 100 game months, the forums are to remain civil with no complaining about the war and we will agree to move any and all countries that were recently built near your countries. Those will be the only terms, anything further we continue on at whatever pace we feel like. ---- This sounds very different from what you post in public... Since you are being rude, I'll state another fact. This is part of a message sent to me from a member of The Mob: "Orbiter is pretty good at war and although EC was probably our weakest/most inexperienced member, he is capable. " I agree. Orbiter is actually pretty good at war. I've been impressed by his ability to fight and make adustments. I've learned ALOT from his fighting. Frankly, the knowledge I gained is worth more than the 2 countries I lost. Thanks for the lession Orbiter. Orbiter did a number of strategies and attacks there were highly effective. One that I never really could effectivily counter, and all I could do was just throw up a massive amount of stuff to take the beating until it ended. He took out maybe 50 trillion worth of my assets with that strategy, and I was impressed. It was worth it to learn what he did, though. Anyway, EC, let me know if you want to start the civility on the forums.....it would start with you ending any threats :-)...that is not civil.
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 06:18 am Peace offer accepted. See new thread that I'm posting on.
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 06:19 am TIME STAMP
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 07:03 am Quote: "Orbiter is pretty good at war and although EC was probably our weakest/most inexperienced member, he is capable. " This was supposed to be an insult Chrys? I WAS the newest, weakest member of the Mob. I still am. Look at current Mob federation on FB. For anyone to claim to be stronger than any of the other members is quite a tale. And I take it as a compliment for ANY of them to say that I am capable.
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| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 07:22 am well, 50T would be a low ball estimate, i shot 46T of corps in one country, but corp value is inflated anyways... not to mention, i musta shot down 50K ints, and i don't know how many helis, in the process thanks for the compliment, showing respect to your adversaries, is good sportmanship. but that sportmanship wsn't even short lived, it was a ruse to play one friend against another. you tried it higher up in this thread. i'm not going for it. why tell some one to stop being rude, and then get in the last jab? thats a cheap shot, AND low when you take last forum insult, then tell ec to stop being rude, then immediately go and except a peace that would bind him from responding... deals off wow, the more i think on it, that was a cheap shot, i'm not going to let you just do that. "Since you are being rude, I'll state another fact..." -Chryso then ends the same post... "Anyway, EC, let me know if you want to start the civility on the forums." chryso, you can't expect to play a peaceful game, and talk to people like that. its crap like that has gotten you into this in the first place
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| Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 07:33 pm As long as I'm not in that conflict, my Zoomia is okay. Like I could stand so many wars around me over there. Me, I'm just another fresh guy who has plans...very big plans, but not enough to be a wannabe. The war I'm fighting now is nothing compared to this though... I mean, I'm only merely sending deployment units down this C3 country's border west of me, while those guys with SNAPP and their enemies are breaking billions of skulls and bones just kill each other and call it a day. I wonder if I can exploit all this... Nah...too risky at my position. Besides, they are way out of my league and that's fine with them. I'll let them destroy each other. And when the ash and rubble clears, I will guarantee there will be les superpowers in this world. More than enough for me and many others like me to ascend just a bit. Like I care though! I just want my country to be powerful and worthy of importance, but not some degenerate powerhouse that cares only for himself or his classy friends and not the starving or envious strangers outside. What do you think of this ruse? Tell me. I'm all ears. ;)
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| Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 07:46 pm Words of warning to SNAPP and their enemies: The 'World War' you're fighting makes me see that something else is going on here. I'm merely observing what is happening, but I have to present a new problem. If this turns out to be a prolonged and painful war, others may turn their attention to it and intervene as well. For all we could know, this war could be just some sick game played by another country or federation. Watch out for something like this. However, this is only a theory of something like that happening. But why waste words? I'll be entertained enough to know that once those guys are too busy or out of the way, I and so many others I don't know can grab the true power reigns at the first sign of trouble. However, it just so happens, that I'm humble enough to reveal my intentions. If you want to avoid an event like so, I suggest you make this war as quick as possible. The current influence over White Giant will CHANGE...one way...or another. That's all I have to say. Adler, out.
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| Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 08:54 pm http://video.yahoo.com/watch/4690670/12529607
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| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 05:05 am well the war ended two months ago, but what the hell... go conquer WG. why not?
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| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 05:18 am ...
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| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 06:29 am spunky!
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| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 08:57 am Looks like Adler is all fired up ,I love it?
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| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 10:45 am If only Adler could read.
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| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 06:26 pm We need more Adlers This is the life of Sim at stake here. The more Psycho_Honeys, Adlers, Little Hitlers, Barrens, DeathBeforeDishonors... the better the Sim. This much is obvious, apparently.
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| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 06:27 pm Don't 4get Stuart and King Hezekiah.
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| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 07:18 pm I knew the dates were out of place! That was a waste. :P That's why I'm looking for a new loop in the system. Hey, that's me for ya'. QUOTE: "WHEN I DIE AND GO TO HEAVEN AND SEE GOD, I'M GONNA SAY, SH*T." -'The Tourettes Guy'
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