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Thursday, August 5, 2010 - 06:35 pm  War has been declared on WGC. There was a time when simcountry had lots of wars, and many players built reputations as warlords, politicians, and loyal allies. However, these times appear to be disappearing, and for those of us who like a good war, this is discouraging. The Mob has never been a "peaceful" federation, but has used restraint in an attempt to let players grow on its homeworlds of Fearless Blue and Little Upsilon. No war of any substance has been fought this calendar year. No players appear to care about their security other than fending off wendy's periodic noob raids. This is truly not the spirit of a healthy game, or a fun one. This said, the Mob has decided to try to gain a foothold on White Giant and secure its place as the greatest military power on that planet. WGC is currently the largest federation in simcountry, and has vast resources, militaries, and experience. This federation has ruled White Giant for many real life years, and it is time that they earn the right to rule. They are a model federation, and the Mob has great respect for them, and this war is not being waged for any personal reasons. War will rage until either the Mob is defeated, or it feels that it has neutralized all military threats that WGC has to offer. This said, new players and economic players are not our primary targets, and will be left alone unless they decide to interfere with the war. Only when we feel that someone has accomplished something militarly (either ourselves or WGC) will we be willing to negotiate. When that time comes, WGC can contact me to set up a time, place, or terms. Regards, EO
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| Thursday, August 5, 2010 - 08:06 pm "WGC is currently the largest federation in simcountry, and has vast resources, militaries, and experience." Translation: WGC is the only federation on WG that has anything(assets) worth taking. "War will rage until either the Mob is defeated, or it feels that it has neutralized all military threats that WGC has to offer." Translation: War will rage until either the Mob is defeated, or it feels that it has taken all the assets of value that WGC has to offer. "No players appear to care about their security other than fending off wendy's periodic noob raids." Translation: WGC has an immense number of poorly defended countries that we can take easily with our gang method of attack. So we will take them. Yet another asset raid lol. When will you wake up, I have been warning many of you this is what simcountry has deteriorated to. Unprovoked attacks fueled by nothing but greed. To the weak federations of simcountry not really military oriented, you are threatened by a small band of pirates. This will be the second clear example of such behavior. Its funny that the weak feds or isolated empires are targets of 'good wars' while federations capable of giving a good war are 'friends' (i.e. 3ms on FB). This group of players "those of us who like a good war" (BS) constantly avoid a good war not based on assets to be taken and thrive on targeting the people who build assets of value in the game. This targeted and continued aggression is the single handed cause of the deterioration of the game. When players assets are threatened, they tire of playing remembering how long it took to build such empires. This group of pirates are a shite stain on this community, while proclaiming what is and is not in the spirit of the game. They won't attack the weaker players or newer players, becuase they have not much worth taking. They would rather have you build with the false confidence that they are not after you, until you build enough for them to take. This is the same group of players that are pushing for war protection to be removed for economic players. The reason being they don't want new players intimidated by the power of their neighbors, to be able to build peacefully without the threat of being raided for their assets. Ive repeatedly said that time is the one factor people never factor into the things they do on this game. The assets are nothing in the grande scheme of things compared to time. If you played this game for a year or more, and someone comes along and steals what has been worked on for that time frame what motivation would you have to continue laying a game where you will be constantly under threat of restarting? This kind of aggression is exactly what makes people want to quit, yet they accuse me of making people quit while not backing up any of those statements. I countered with clear examples of people that contribute very well to the game, and have since left becuase they have had hard work destroyed becuase of the greed of a very select organized group of players that wish to do nothing but take in a few hours, things that you have worked on for months or more. Comparing what they do, to my 'noob raids' is not even a contest. It is a poor conceptualization of right and wrong. I do what I do 90% of the time becuase I was provoked by direct attack on the forums or becuase an attack on my fedmates by a dminating force. There is no comparison. What they do is watch and prey on assets and hard work that they themselves don't appreciate or value. You can never compare me taking a few inactive countries to this kind of belligerence. The whole lot of you makes me sick. It will only be a time before you are dealt with on an observatory level. One person will not defeat this kind of arrogance. While there were more than 20 people that tried to boycott me on LU while I was not warring with anyone except a light skirmish with?!?!, you guessed it, yet another asshat who apparently took a guys entire empire for apparently no reason. I was going for HOF on LU and the mob hostile bid more than 150 corps in an attempt to sabotage my level and reduce my score so I wouldn't get first place. Is this what is in the spirit of the game? LDI was asked to disband or leave the game I believe for continued hostile aggression against weaker players. But they should have never been asked to leave. If you put these two side by side, the mob and LDI, one looks like a saint, and the other like pirates. LDI had substance. For the most part they fought players who had attitude and were willing to fight with them. They rarely attacked feds or inexperienced players without justification or a little forum banter precipitating such action. These mob just calculates poor defenses and a decent amount of assets = rape. Is this the spirit of the game? Members of the mob have spammed the boards with post after post crying for the gms to ban me, while wiping out people from the game themselves. There is no comparison in what I do and what they do. I unite federations and groups of people to fight me. I hardly ever take a fight knowing that I will roll over or whoop an entire fed. It just never happens that way. These guys look to take out military rich countries from people and players who have spent time building and have little experience in using them. An easy kill' so to speak. This is what the game has deteriorated to. This is negative game progression and the mob and their constant prowling for assets under the poor excuse of 'a good war' is exactly what has threatened the game for quite some time. Not me and my c3 wars or defense of my federation members. I think the track record of this federation is deplorable and despicable and should be addressed by the gamemasters in our upcoming Jozi chat. Their calls for limited or reduced wp should be discarded as well as their calls for the limitation of the use of c3s becuase the number of deterrents available is diminishing. Players should be able to use wp and any available means to defend what is theirs and what others wish to take. While what they are doing is within the rules, I know they cannot possibly wish for these or any other changes to further reduce the capabilities of those willing to fight and stand against such aggression. It is about time the mob has been called for what they really are, a bunch of lowlife thieves. (EDIT: I only offer this sidebar becuase I was mentioned in this Bshite speech)
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| Thursday, August 5, 2010 - 08:23 pm As I said, we are not attacking any econ or new players (as evidenced by our war declarations). WGC is the strongest federation in simcountry - hardly a raid. Wars used to be common. We have not fought a war in a year (since last summer). If W3C didn't want wars, they wouldn't make half the products in the game war based. If we wanted to raid assets, we would, and we could. We do not. We have only fought one group of players in the last year - and they responded by attacking us back. We do not pick on the weak. We enjoy fighting and the challenge of war. This is the best opportunity to enjoy what simcountry has to offer. Enjoy watching from the sidelines Wendy. 
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| Thursday, August 5, 2010 - 09:31 pm Windy here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9xZPzw0VSY. You are not involved in this, so mind your own biznez!
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| Friday, August 6, 2010 - 01:51 am OMG THAT IS SOO F'N FUNNY SERPENT.. LMFAO !!!!
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| Friday, August 6, 2010 - 06:24 am You were waiting to use that you tube clip I bet...lol. very funny indeed. I think that can be applied to the WHOLE forum..my posts included.
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| Friday, August 6, 2010 - 06:43 am it truly can be applied to almost all of the forum posts.
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| Friday, August 6, 2010 - 07:39 am yes, yes it could
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| Friday, August 6, 2010 - 10:04 am "WGC offers no military threat to any player who does not threaten WGC. We were and are happy to live in peaceful co-existence with any player wishing to do the same. " jo, i think the fact we dec'd on you, should make us a threat, and as such...
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 07:24 am You A**Holes attacked me, I'm an econ player. I've spent 2 and a half years playing this game and now it ends. Thanks a lot EC, I expected better from you. I rank the members of the mob lower than wendy. Enjoy your game, you ruined mine.
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 07:47 am You can have Diamond Dogs back. I would advise, next time, to buy WP instead of 12,000 nuclear defense missiles. It will keep your assets a lot safer.
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 08:24 am wo0t! Lower than Wendy You heard it folks.
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 08:49 am Well Wendy, You nuked me twice...
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 08:52 am The first time I sort of understood, the second time...
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 09:25 am The spirit of a healthy game is to play as you wish and find others who want to play with you as you wish. Yes wars are part of this game and yes its fair play to take from others things they've bought here. However i don't really want to buy anything else here, at this point in my playing life I think I'll stick to......well playing a secured main and some c3's I guess.
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 10:00 am if it means anything aaron, you were considered probably the second biggest threat in WGC. i didn't have anything in the area, so i didn't really pay attention to that part of the planning, but they spent some time considering how to deal with you. every one on this side of the fence has a great deal of respect for you. as far as i know anyway, i know i do
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 04:18 pm lol the second biggest threat? With only 1 really decent country? I really wish I had the time to make a proper war, unfortunately I have been working 75-80 hours/week the past few weeks and a proper war just isn't going to happen. Maybe after life settles down, who knows.
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 04:39 pm Hi Dave, Not sure if I remember your name right - it must be getting on two years now, and I can't find the emails. Last word I had from you was that you got the money I sent you, and I never heard from you again. I hope I made it clear that it was a gift, not a loan. I've often wondered what happened to you, and I've held you in the Light. The way you were talking a couple years ago, I was afraid you might have killed yourself. I'm glad to know you're still alive, friend. We often do not know the consequences of our actions - it's just a game, but it touches people's lives and we don't always know how.
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 04:40 pm Yeah Indust Mech, I nuked you but as an econ player you could recover, that is the only threat nukes caused you, your countries were never in any real danger. I stopped the second time too. Ask around in your fed, for those who certainly don't want to get involved, they have not been attacked. I classified people into groups of direct and indirect support, and those who wouldn't do either of the previous. The first two groups were the 'active players' to be attacked. The only countries I took of active players was Beo and Doctor, who both shadowed my c3s aggressively. However in that war GREF was primary aggressor, so I let the nukes fly. I've already decided to make the distinction between those who are in GREF, and those who are using minor members for air support. This will probably be my policy moving forward. But I promise nothing.
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| Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 05:00 pm Hey IndustMech I only attacked one of your countries. With over 100 trill in military assets. Hardly an econ country. The rest was just cover deccs. NO worries and not another shot will be fired. By the way iam not sure what you fed to those ints but they was very effective. I lost alot trying get those guys down. Cheers Buddy
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 07:16 pm See, this is why there aren't big wars anymore. People are so used to W3 protecting their assets that they don't know how. And, when a threat does actually appear, they just whinge and whine about it rather than sucking it up and defending themselves.
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 07:29 pm Bud, Economic countries can have defenses, can't they? How many offensive weapons did you find in my countries? The bulk of my military assets are defensive ammo.
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 07:36 pm Wendy +1
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 08:01 pm What does one plan on doing with 100t military assets? Why buy them if they're for show? Put the money out in loans. Use that money to buy war protection. It disgusts me that people are so ignorant. If you don't have war protection, your stuff ISNT PROTECTED. If you have military assets YOU BECOME A TARGET. What is SO damn hard to figure out about that?
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 09:02 pm I was buying a lot of defensive missiles and ammo. I was slowly building up my defensive weapons and garrisons. I didn't expect an unprovoked surprise attack. Better to have too much ammo than not enough. It doesn't cost anything to store it. Loans are a pain in the ass.
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 09:35 pm Do none of you play the levels game? A DI average of 400 is required for level 14 ... how does anyone achieve that without having trillions in military assets in every country? Does that make everyone who plays for levels a target? It would seem so ...
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 09:43 pm For level 14, you probably need about... 10-20t of MIB? I've been to level 14 Jo, I'm aware of what it requires. Having 10 times that much is not necessary for level 14.
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 10:12 pm EO ... are you seriously suggesting that, so long as players only have 20T or so military assets, no one will ever attack them? If you are attacked, a whole bunch of MIBs won't get you very far. An effective defence that hits DI 400 is worth 91T ... not quite 100T, but near enough to qualify.
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 10:17 pm I'm saying that if you were a "levels player" you wouldn't need more than 20t military assets, and I doubt you'd find yourself being questioned. There are many players on other worlds who are "level players." I know several of them well. Instead of spending on an effective defense, they buy wp. They don't want to fight, so they don't. You did not elect this path, and thus you are a target. I highly doubt Wendy would attack a player who had 20t mil assets if there was a player of the same caliber defense who had 100t. I use Wendy here because it is a common reference point. Her choices are logical for someone looking to acquire assets, and yes, having less assets makes you far less of a target. If you want to play levels and avoid war, you can buy war protection. If you do not choose to do so, then you are automatically a potential target, the same way as I am - I've been attacked before too.
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 10:19 pm Population above 30 million is worth 3 - 5 gc per million. 60 mil pop sell 30 mil for 3 gc each 90 gc 90 * 460 = 41400 or 41.4T WOW more targets!
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 10:21 pm Yes IM. Of the 130 or so products traded in the game, about 1/3 are ammunition or weapons. War is DESIGNED to be part of the game. Targets are the logical conclusion of weapons.
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| Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 11:49 pm lol, common, every one thats funny, it really is "Targets are the logical conclusion of weapons." -EO i'm going to be quoting that one for a long time
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 12:21 am EO said I was a target due to the fact that I had 100T in military assets. As if that's the only thing my countries had of value. My point is that my countries are still targets because they have 60 mil pop and the population has value just like the mil assets. If you have something of value, some people will try to take it from you.
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 03:17 am EO you need to get off my nizzuts homie. Quit saying my name, you haven't earned that.
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 08:23 am well, i guess this war just couldn't end with out a complete nuclear beat down of some one. thanks for volunteering ian
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 09:18 am Well fellas, we had stopped all battles but sometimes I guess enuf just aint enuf, some still want more. Serpent says to his massive air force : 'Hey boys, Lets kick the tires, and light the fires, time to go huntin again'!
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Monday, August 9, 2010 - 11:24 am
And who said wars had to have a victor?
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 04:47 pm I'm completely surprised that now Mob has done it's worst they expect no return fire. WGC naturally would want to continue, they knew this, and now will use it as an excuse to asset raid inactives and the rest of anything worth value, which was the entire original intent. Durh, full circle 101.
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 05:01 pm aww, wendy, if you can't be a player, don't be a player hater!!!
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 05:34 pm Player hater? So you attack them, and honestly don't expect them to want to fight back? And because this seems a tad counter intuitive, I am player hating? Josias you needs to go back to the urban dictionary a re evaluate the meaning of player hating.
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 05:49 pm well, considering how we trounced them, you'd think that they'd rather let the hole thing fizzle out. is actually what i think would be the smart thing on their part.
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 06:14 pm We expected they'd fight back BEFORE all their countries were taken instead of with c3s AFTER their fedmates had dropped out. This is fine if they continue to pursue this policy. We will act accordingly. @ Laguna - you find me a game where there are weapons and there is no winner/loser anywhere else.
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 06:38 pm Some things are easier said than done. If you attacked me, my position is to attack you, regardless of what you've taken or if I can't win. This in itself is one of the last truly effective deterrents. Futile maybe, but the possibility would most certainly make an aggressor think twice, or not even attack at all. That said this is a game. People have a real problem with long drawn out wars. I think this is wrong. If you can choose to get a few buddies and cut through some cake rather quickly I should be able to wage war in whatever manner I wish. Long short drawn out or whatever. This should not be limited to what You or anyone considers morally correct. The group of players on the recieving end of what you did feel it was not morally correct as well as other players in the game. A truly effective war, involving c3s or whatever other means were necessary to mete out an appropriate revenge should always be available to victims or recipients(better said) of attacks. I find it truly disgusting that change after proposed change made by your camp ONLY catered to exactly how you all would go about a war, and limited a respondent of possible means to respond. The changes were requested before a war like this, becuase you expected to win handily, despite the propaganda showing itself now on the forums. You confirmed this expectation with threats and ultimatums from the top of the thread that announced the war decs. "Those of you that have been decd upon, we have chosen you for obvious reasons, the rest of you who are active players, if you don't get involved in the war then your countries will be left exactly as they are with the only caution being that if c3 wars, etc are used against us, we will turn this into a no holds barred fight. But again, knowing this, I do not think the leadership of WGC will take that path but that is indeed their choice." Whiteboy Prime example, wouldn't you say. So change c3 wars, then change the limits of value or whatever, so if the you took enough countries they wouldn't be left with much anything of value, and literally not been allowed to attack. Or had been left with only countries large enough to suicide themselves against an already established country you guys had. So it would be futile. So systematically taking out the largest countries would basically by logistics make a retaliation impossible. And then on top of that take all c3s out of any scenario. We now have gang style tactics = win. And you lobbied for changes to be able to secure exactly that reality. Than you guys ask for say nuke defence batts to derreg after everything else. Why. Because your guys stuff offensive weapons beyond capacity and hope that nothing derregs like you can't count or something. When the nuke defense goes down, the war engine isn't working right...LoL WGC could have if they were determined or organized /prepared to nuked half of your attacking countries and got some countries to derreg to blunt the attack. But that didn't happen. And now, the logical thing for me to do if I was them is nuke your arses to snot for lack of any better resolution, but hey, that is just me. And now the option you present is that of "after what just happened, I would just let things go" Rather weak expectations. If they worked so long and hard to build and maintain that federation and you have basically ruined a lot of games in a very short span, why wouldn't they or anyone who cared not want to exact an appropriate response. Basically Slade is on the other thread threatening to go after MOPs countries anyway, even after Josias broke whatever perceived notion that this wasn't to be an asset raid. It seems to me that the threat is continued and you guys are kicking them while they are down, it doesn't satisfy you all to know that you have won a lopsided war, you want them to get on a knee and beg you to stop. Where I come from we got solutions for shite like that. Grind the axe till there is no metal left. If I was as member rich as WGC, I would do exactly what you don't want them to do. C3 war. I do a bunch of crap and I am just one person. Imagine what 5 or 10 or more coordinated c3 warriors could do. And basically you said you would take the gloves off but be honest, they have been off, you guys insulted and downed many people for naturally being upset, all the while throwing stones my way about me ruining peoples game. There was no honor in what you guys did, so should WGC be confined to some imaginary code of no c3 fighting. They didn't attack you , you all attacked them, and still don't seem to want to stop despite all we heard on other posts. So basically it's like since you didn't agree that what we did was cool as hell, we'll keep going, but you knew they would react this way and planned to use it as an excuse for a continuation, I'm sure you never meant to put your feet so far in your mouths saying this wasn't an asset raid, but the public response was so overwhelming that you had to try and save some face, now onto BS excuses for raiding further inactives in the name of a grudge of an opponent who isn't even present, like not available to fight present, but like not logging in for a long time present. Yet you still somehow think they should just lay down and take it, because what exactly? Oh, cuz this was fun and you guys are saving the game. Man I wish I had a mind like yours to see the things you see, and know the things you know, and the foresight to see how this was going to be so fun and beneficial to the game. Bring new players encourage new feds, new growth, and stifle ongoing decay(as you say) of the game. I need to see why you slapping someone in the face is the reason they should not slap you back. This logic is beautiful, where did you study this philosophy so that I may get my fill of this hidden knowledge, Josias. Of all people I didn't expect such a shallow move from you. I know how they are but you... you... you are like that Wolf in sheep's clothing we mentioned on the other threads. See I respect a bad guy for what they are, I avoid them and keep one in the chamber in case they get too close, but you...you... you might be the one to have me drop my guard and sit the gun down right before you try to strong arm rob me. That is a truly scary thought. This is why communication is down among players, and mistrust is on the rise because people like you, appear to be that kewl guy you could get on with and fed up with, and build up next to and such, and then you'd be in the fed a week later with the people taking my empire. I'm done... amazingly, I just wanna dig in some arse. I wish there were more determined individuals. You completely and utterly disappoint me Josias, not that it means much, you are way above my grade anyway, right.
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 06:47 pm "You completely and utterly disappoint me Josias, not that it means much, you are way above my grade anyway, right." wendy well, wendy, i'm sorry to hear that, but i not going to even read your post, their isn't much point to it, i just saw your last line. you are going to spout off what ever you want, about what ever you, when ever you want, and do what ever you, and find what ever reason to justify it. i don't care, theirs nothing i can do about it you are one of those people that act really tuff as you are driving by in a car, but wont stop your car to prove how tuff u are... frankly, people like that are a waste of time. so why should i read you posts? you are a waste of time. ttfn josias
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 06:56 pm Exactly the beauty of the game is such... you can do as you want. You have done what you wanted. I can and will do what I want. WGC can and do what they want, they have basically nothing left to lose. The only thing is, I am fairly certain the distinction of Bad VS Evil can be clearly made now. No more fooling people who don't "KNOW" what is really happening. Not a single soul is going to shed a tear for any of you now... This is indeed a great game, community rules all this spamming the gms to change that and this is all nonsense. What has happened here, and what should happen now as a result is totally in the hands of the users. I plan to be a solution to a very nasty problem. Let's see how fun it can get. I'm saving the game wooohoooo! Look at me.
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| Monday, August 9, 2010 - 07:45 pm * It seems to me that the threat is continued and you guys are kicking them while they are down, it doesn't satisfy you all to know that you have won a lopsided war, you want them to get on a knee and beg you to stop.* quote by yappy poodle On the second day of the war when it was apparent that there was no more fight left, we stopped attacking. I have many many more countries and military I could have used, as others do, because we expected more difficulty. Granted it didnt happen and we stopped our attacks. It has nothing to do with assets. I have far more assets than what I have gained from this war... this is only a very small percentage. The full version of this game involves war. If you dont wish to play the full version then dont. Even after the decs on MOP were sent we decided not to attack, altho orbiter had his reasons to continue. But when more decs from wgc appeared, clarifacation was asked for, but no response. We were willing to stop, they didnt.
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| Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 04:50 pm Must be nice to be in a federation that commucates with one another.Ever since I've signed up with the fed I am with now,I've not recieved one message from my federation members.
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| Wednesday, September 1, 2010 - 12:40 am I've never commucated lol. Hey DBD, long time no see. You proly wanna join the mob,m they plan wars and all that stuff.
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| Wednesday, September 1, 2010 - 09:07 am Broken Ambitions has declared war on my empire - as seems to be the theme, this aggression was totally unprovoked. Any pressure that can be applied to help avoid this war would be very much appreciated. In the meantime the countries will be stripped as far as possible so if you have corps in the White Rose Commonwealth you may want to move them.
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| Wednesday, September 1, 2010 - 10:08 am Kill Her... Kill Kill Kill. I am running low on bullets or I'd really help you.
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| Thursday, September 2, 2010 - 08:04 pm Well if it is any consolation to you, Richard, she will be answered in kind one day. Due to real life issues, I can't actively engage in a war now, but I am happy to help you any way that I can to help you rebuild and get reestablished. I will encourage everyone I know to help you this way if noone comes to your aid militarily. Can't understand why someone would want to wipe out an entire empire. So few actively playing the game these days, any ways. Run another long standing player off, Broken Ambitions, why don't ya! You should do your warring on the War Worlds and not go after those purely playing an eco game on a non-warring world. In my opinion this makes you a bully and a terrorist in the game.
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| Friday, September 3, 2010 - 08:13 am and perhaps, thats how sim country goes... what should be dead issues, are argued about, for a long time... i love this game... nothing can beat this, and W3C, this should not be changed, it is mostly perfect. by the way guys, this really is a new thread
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| Friday, September 3, 2010 - 08:21 am I still see a correlation between the two incidents.
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| Friday, September 3, 2010 - 08:46 am the theme has been, if it takes a month, its not worth it... do you want a new theme??? or the same one. the old one doesn't seem to work for any one...
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| Friday, September 3, 2010 - 05:43 pm I have no eyedeer what you are on about, kill ambitious kill ambitions kill brokenambitious kill everyone kill josias kill the mob kill white giant Was that it?
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| Saturday, September 4, 2010 - 12:00 am bump
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| Saturday, September 4, 2010 - 05:19 pm bump, and of further interest: https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-auth.cgi?file=/1/15490.html&lm=1283612838
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| Sunday, September 5, 2010 - 04:26 pm Hi all, I confirm that this round of my war is over, and I acknowledge that Josias has handed my ass to me. I humbly thank him for this lesson. As former president of Mengjiang, I thank all CEOs in Mengjiang for building in my country. As discussed previously, the new owner will likely be stripping the country and I appreciate your cooperation in expediting this process. Thank you also Josias for your extreme generosity in compensating me for my lost defensive ammo and population - I've received your final payment and our transaction is complete: Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 Read Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:08 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:07 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:07 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:07 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:07 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:07 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:07 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:07 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:06 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:06 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:06 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:04 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:04 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:04 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:04 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:04 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:02 03-06-2752 New Delete Rhodesian Draca Mixor Company Auction ended 05-09-2010 12:00:02 03-06-2752 New Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:28:32 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:27:41 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:27:35 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:26:48 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:26:38 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:26:32 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:26:26 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:26:20 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:26:12 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:26:00 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:25:54 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:25:47 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:25:42 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:25:36 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:23:52 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:23:46 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:23:40 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:23:31 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:23:26 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:23:21 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:23:05 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:22:58 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:22:52 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:22:47 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:22:41 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:22:34 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:21:26 04-02-2752 Read Delete GameMaster Bidding has started 04-09-2010 02:20:45 04-02-2752 Read Delete
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| Sunday, September 5, 2010 - 04:59 pm haha, and that did hurt, i'll salute you on that!!! well played. but again, this isn't a part of the war. this is my second and last warning on this.
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| Sunday, September 5, 2010 - 10:19 pm Thanks Josias, but these "warnings" are all for show, aren't they? They're for your friends in the bleachers, and they only come after the fact. You've proven you know the war engine. You've also proven that you don't know people. This war was never Nob vs WGC for me - it's your friends vs my friends, and fed membership has nothing to do with it. This is all the same war. You can deny it, but what you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say. I look forward to no further warnings. In Friendship
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| Monday, September 6, 2010 - 12:28 am aww, so now the war is expanded to all of you, versus all of us? so i guess jaffle says that its all of his friends against all mine? honestly, i think that jaffle is the only one that wants that. Georgie Porgie, Puddin' and Pie, Kissed the girls and made them cry, When the boys came out to play Georgie Porgie ran away and that is almost exactly how the exchange between ba, georgie, and myself went. he was willing to threaten and try to intimidate ba, but when i showed up, yes, he ran away. (and honestly ba didn't need my help, she is quite capable on her own,) georgie, you are putting allot of your friends at risk, and i'm sure most don't appreciate it. and your sitting in wp while you do it... so you want pay back, go for it, but you shouldn't include the many friends you have that just aren't ready for it. i mean i don't think they deserve to be shot at, because your running your mouth, after you left their fed.
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| Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - 06:04 am i will reiterate that i think it piss poor to attack a non-threatening eco player on a non-warring world. i see no honor in such a defeat. i can understand taking one or two countries, but to try and take out a whole empire??? shame shame to have such greed.
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| Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - 05:58 pm Hi Jan, Don't know if this in my defence, or a reference to some new development. If it's in my defence, I thank you but your compassion is misplaced. Please do not make me into a victim here: I took my chances by taking my country out of WP, and I paid the consequence for having a poorly-defended country. As Josias correctly indicated, I am in fact a cowardly bully. I'd never have declared on BA alone with only one country, if I'd had any idea of how well-connected she is! In Friendship, Jaffle
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| Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - 06:23 pm Oh wait, I just realised ... Jan's comment was directed at ME. Nevermind - Jan, you're absolutely right. I'll leave the previous one up there in case anyone has already read it and is responding as I type. My bad - sorry!
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| Tuesday, September 7, 2010 - 06:37 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSHOPkcVv8
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