| XON Xyooj | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 04:37 am 
would like to buy 90 to 900 components for my fb corp, if you have any please inbox me
thanks  |
| XON Xyooj | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 10:47 am
these space products are not coming together.
to build a cargo shuttle, every month requires 1300 shuttle components, 2 shuttle boosters, 0.90 shuttle engines, 0.10 shuttle fuselages, 2 shuttle extensions.
if i build a shuttle components corp, it's yearly production is 3300 shuttle components or 275 shuttle components per month.
if i build a shuttle boosters corp, its monthly consumption of shuttle components is 90.
if i build a shuttle engines corp, its monthly consumption of shuttle components is 90.
if i build a shuttle fuselages corp, its monthly consumption of shuttle components is 90.
if i build a shuttle extension corp, its monthly consumption of shuttle components is 90.
what does this say about these products?
to me, i cannot build just one shuttle components corp because 275 shuttle components will not be enough? yet these products are not available on the world market? i wonder who put these products together without too much thinking? |
| Aries | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 03:28 pm
It is not supposed to be easy. Yes, it requires 15+ corps to have a continuous shuttle operation, I have 17 space corps atm. Don't forget shuttle maintenance. |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 08:24 pm
Its believe it or not MUCH better then it used to be.
It used to need around 30 corps to supply 1 shuttle corp.
It used to need 9 shuttle components to just the shuttle corp.
Though i think shuttle corps need a increase in prodcution |
| XON Xyooj | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 09:01 pm
@aries,
yes, looks like i need lot more shuttle components corps to release this bottleneck.
building a shuttle maintenance corp will require 40 shuttle components too.
this is fascinating, because i have looked everywhere and looks like the space aspect of the game is very very quiet. can't get these products on the world market and very few players interactions, that's the frustration. |
| XON Xyooj | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 09:12 pm
@super,
so right now 6 shuttle components corps is better?
if you build 6 shuttle components corps, then you're be short of 50 shuttle components for all the corps that require this product. but if you build 7 shuttle components corps, then you'll have leftover 225 shuttle components--which you cannot sell on the world market?
all the other space products for a cargo shuttle will have leftover too? so what do you do with leftover, because i went to the space stations and hardly anything is trading there either.
these space products are supposed to be profitable because they are trading with gold coins? looks like this is an illusion? |
| XON Xyooj | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 09:35 pm
if either of you have 900 shuttle components to spare for me until i can build the corps, please inbox me. |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 10:42 pm
By the standards of when space was introduced.
YES it is MUCH!!! better.
I agree they should lossen it.
I honestly think if it took 1 of eachcorp(expect components maybe 3-4corps id be ok with that)
I can understand the need for 6-9 corps to make a shuttle.
how many do you want i have a ton |
| XON Xyooj | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 11:07 pm
@super,
i just want to build a cargo shuttles corp and a space centers corp, but i cannot just build a single corp because there are no supplier for the cargo shuttles corp's ingredients.
yes, the shuttle components corp needs to produce at least 1700 components to meet the requirements of the other corps. the current max of 275 components is a screw-up (i believe), and needs to be fixed.
i'm going to have too much excess of boosters, engines, fuselages, maintenances, and extensions. if there are suppliers for these products, then i should not have to build corps for these products because virtually no one is buying these?
as i said above, if i did not have to build the other space corps, perhaps just a constant of 1300 shuttle components every month would meet the requirements for the cargo shuttles corp. though, i have yet to build the cargo shuttles corp because i don't want to put the horse before the buggy. and at the advises of my 5 years old nephew, all the other products for this corp needs to be in line before i built this corp, else i will be carrying too much loss.
i think it would be much cheaper and profitable for all players if each focus on producing a specific space product. the products will cost the same whether i'm building my own or buying from someone else. |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Monday, November 4, 2013 - 02:12 am
Give me a nation on LU or Fb and ill send you some
back in the day the corp needed 3600units a month plus 2-3 of each parts a month (ext) the fuseage.
Overall its been cut massively used to cost and sell for 200B base price.
I think the GM is working on it overall, message them im sure they are workign on it |
| XON Xyooj | Monday, November 4, 2013 - 02:59 am
@super,
send to my enterprise XON E1 on FB, 2600 shuttle components should get me to start
these products should be matching corp to corp on production, or a bit more. now using 5 components corps to supply one cargo corp is too much. i will need at least 7 components corps to supply all the space corps is over kill and these are leaving too many excess of boosters, engines, fuselages, extensions, and maintenances as i've mentioned above. if there is a good market for these space products, i won't be complaining but the space market is very much dead. |
| Christos | Monday, November 4, 2013 - 11:39 am
Actually XON it's quite simple: A shuttle corp needs 6 components corps to keep it going. Why should it be that only one component corp would be enough anyway? Does Boeing in real life have only one supplier or sub-contractor? Anyway, there people (including myself) who have tons of components and sc units to sell. Just say the word ;)
P.S. What's really problematic though is the Shuttle Boosters corporation. There's a serious mistake by the GM. It produces thousands of boosters that you need 10 lifetimes to use. It seems one corporation could meet the demand of all players in all worlds! The GM needs to fix this. Either lower output or raise the booster consumption of shuttle and sc maint corps. |
| XON Xyooj | Tuesday, November 5, 2013 - 07:22 am
@christos,
on earth, boeing has several contractors for a single product because it is not in control or own those contractors
on sc, i own all my shuttle components corps so why do i need to own so many of these corps to supply one cargo shuttles corp?
since i'm not aware of other products these space products are use outside, then the best wasteless option would be for a shuttle components corp to produce 1690, shuttle boosters corp to produce 4, shuttle fuselages corp to produce 0.90, shuttle engines corp to produce 0.9, shuttle extentions corp to produce 2, and shuttle maintenances corp to produce 12?
the many issues when i have only one cargo shuttles corp include what do i do with the extra shuttle engines, shuttle fuselages, shuttle extentions, shuttle maintenance units? because i will keep producing these products too, will cost too much to shut down these corps and restart again?
i would like to try producing 100 cargo shuttles, so i would need all the other space products to do produce these. |
| Christos | Tuesday, November 5, 2013 - 11:41 am
If you calculate the engines, fuselages etc needed for 1 cargo shuttle, you won't have any excess. You will set up the correct number of corps.
Edit: Anyway the numbers are these for the corps needed: 1 Cargo Shuttle, 2 Shuttle Extentions, 2 Shuttle Engines, 1 Shuttle Fuselage, 8 Shuttle Components, 1 SC Maintenance and 1 Shuttle Boosters (the last one completely useless but you need it to be self-sufficient - or else I can sell you boosters which I have thousands of)
I would also advise you to first set up all other corps and wait 3-4 days and then set up the shuttle corp, because it needs a lot of cash and it's wise to have some reserves of engines, components, fuselages etc before you start. |
| XON Xyooj | Wednesday, November 6, 2013 - 06:43 am
@christos,
i'll keep those in mind. i have already built all those space products corps, except the cargo shuttle corp. if these products were actively traded on the market or space stations, i won't bother to build every single one of them. |
| XON Xyooj | Thursday, November 7, 2013 - 06:39 am
now i need some shuttle boosters, can you sell me few hundreds? |
| Christos | Thursday, November 7, 2013 - 10:58 am
Sent 500. If you want more pm me. |
| XON Xyooj | Friday, November 8, 2013 - 03:56 am
thank you to all those who answered my callings, much grateful to your helps
next time will have to plan on papers before i start so i could save billions |
